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Post by islamorada on Jun 21, 2015 19:21:08 GMT
www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25219485/which-nhl-teams-should-consider-buyouts-this-summerThe trade of core players has been the topic for weeks. Futhermore the question regarding the signings of McQuaid and Hamilton with a possible Lucic extension usually boils down to trading one of the core. No matter how many feel or think on the subject, the core could remain intact if the likes of Kelly, Bartkowski, Seidenberg or Smith are traded. Those trades would have be creative and complicated for discussion. I certainly hope the Bs do something to retool the team. Anyway what of any of the potential buyouts? Of these possibilles would be good on the cheap for the Bs? Alexander Semin, Christian Ehrhoff, Cody Hodgson, David Clarkson, Matt Cooke, Mike Richards, Paul Martin, Rob Scuderi, Stephen Weiss, Vincent Lecavalier I guess I would look at Cody Hodgson or Ehrhoff.
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Post by The OC on Jun 21, 2015 19:30:51 GMT
If the team were to trade Krejci for help elsewhere, I would give a long look at bringing in Richards.
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 21, 2015 19:33:11 GMT
If the team were to trade Krejci for help elsewhere, I would give a long look at bringing in Richards. If the B's want to get quicker,faster, then Richards isn't the answer. Molasses comes to mind. There is a reason, other than his contract, that no team wanted him. |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jun 21, 2015 21:19:31 GMT
Trading Kelly and Smith out in separate trades to free up money would not be complicated.
I think Richards in LA will be bought out. Vinny L in Philly would be another candidate.
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Post by NAS on Jun 21, 2015 23:19:41 GMT
I will be surprised if there are any buyouts. I think instead teams will trade players and keep part of their salary. At least they'll be getting something in return for their guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 1:50:13 GMT
I will be surprised if there are any buyouts. I think instead teams will trade players and keep part of their salary. At least they'll be getting something in return for their guy. Agree. Semin or Ehrhoff could be good depending on how much salary is retained... |
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Post by orrisgod on Jun 22, 2015 12:58:18 GMT
Semin? He is not coming to the Bruins, at least I hope not. Useless tool
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Post by ialwayslikedmarcotte on Jun 22, 2015 13:24:53 GMT
Semin--no thanks. That's not exactly the acquisition you make if you're trying to get back to "Bruins hockey".
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Post by MrHulot on Jun 22, 2015 13:58:52 GMT
I will be surprised if there are any buyouts. I think instead teams will trade players and keep part of their salary. At least they'll be getting something in return for their guy. Agree. Semin or Ehrhoff could be good depending on how much salary is retained... None of the above. Definitely not lazy Semin. Ehrhoff, meh. Played against the Bruins in 2011 SC finals, didn't impress me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 13:59:55 GMT
Semin reminds me of Ryder... and that turned out okay!
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Post by walktheline on Jun 22, 2015 14:06:37 GMT
No buy out Kelly rants? Man, this place is boring....I'm heded over to BDC wher al teh smert peple r.
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Post by MrHulot on Jun 22, 2015 14:21:09 GMT
Semin reminds me of Ryder... and that turned out okay! Ryder showed a lot of heart during the 2011 playoffs. I'm not sure if Semin even has a heart.
And here's another reason not to go after Semin (has been posted before, but still good):
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 14:28:54 GMT
I'm not a Semin fan by any stretch... but in 10 NHL seasons, he's been a 20-goal scorer in 7. So if he gets bought out and you get a chance to scoop him up on the cheap, you don't do it?
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Post by MrHulot on Jun 22, 2015 14:44:29 GMT
I'm not a Semin fan by any stretch... but in 10 NHL seasons, he's been a 20-goal scorer in 7. So if he gets bought out and you get a chance to scoop him up on the cheap, you don't do it? The thing is that Semin has all the tools to be a perennial 30 to 40-goal scorer. You think he finally gets going playing for Clode? Prototypical underachiever, definitely not a good fit in Boston.
I think he'll end up in the KHL.
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 22, 2015 14:54:52 GMT
Semin falls into the Gomez/LeCavalier category, players who other teams took a chance on after they were bought out, thinking that they could return to former accomplishments or glory. Both turned out to be wastes of money. It seems like a no risk move, bring in a player who had achieved great success and hope he returns to it,rarely happens and in a cap world, these could be huge mistakes and your stuck with them. Semin is what he has become, an underperfroming, lazy, non scorer. Even at a million bucks i would take a pass.
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Post by seobrien on Jun 22, 2015 14:58:43 GMT
I'm not a Semin fan by any stretch... but in 10 NHL seasons, he's been a 20-goal scorer in 7. So if he gets bought out and you get a chance to scoop him up on the cheap, you don't do it? I think Semin makes Soderberg look like a heart-on-his-sleeve, emotional powerhouse. |
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Post by jbrennan92 on Jun 22, 2015 14:58:46 GMT
I like Cody Hodgson hes a former 20 goal scorer and suffered through a bad season with a even worse team. He is also only 25. Please god no Semin he plays with no effort or heart.
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Post by walktheline on Jun 22, 2015 16:30:03 GMT
I like Cody Hodgson hes a former 20 goal scorer and suffered through a bad season with a even worse team. He is also only 25. Please god no Semin he plays with no effort or heart. I don't think many, if any, of these guys actually get bought out but let's say the do...Out of all of them I'd consider Hodgson. It's hard to evaluate a guy who plays for such a suck bag team with a crappy coach and an organization trying to tank it's way to having the most Ping-Pong balls in the hopper. He's originally a center but the Sabres eventually tried him on LW and he was decent. He's weak defensively as a center so there no way he get's that assignment in Boston. |
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Post by stan17 on Jun 22, 2015 19:13:25 GMT
Watched lots of Caps games over the years as I've lived in VA for quite some time now, Semin is easily the laziest player I've ever seen. The B's would be wise to steer clear of him.
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Post by MrHulot on Jun 22, 2015 19:44:24 GMT
So Hodgson is a center who was decent on LW. Not quite what the B's need, but maybe...
And let's get Semin! Yes, I've changed my mind - because I want to see Don Cherry's take on that surprise acquisition. Should be a coach's corner episode for the ages.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 20:11:12 GMT
if the choice is someone from Providence or one of the guys mentioned above... for the same money, I think you go with the guy who has actually achieved at the NHL level
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Post by bookboy007 on Jun 22, 2015 20:15:14 GMT
Semin reminds me of Ryder... and that turned out okay! Ryder showed a lot of heart during the 2011 playoffs. I'm not sure if Semin even has a heart.
And here's another reason not to go after Semin (has been posted before, but still good):
Ya know, we post this to embarrass Semin, but Staal's the one on the bottom getting his slapsies handed to him. That ain't a banner career moment. |
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Post by bookboy007 on Jun 22, 2015 21:02:21 GMT
Can't believe no one's mentioned this yet but - be a pretty dumb move to buy out Martin and Ehrhoff when they're both UFAs.
I think you have to look at the chain of logic here. Why would the Bruins even consider signing someone that another team - and a team like the Sabres, Hurricanes, or Flyers decided was worth eating money just to be free of? The answer is obviously cap space. You're assuming that a player who is bought out is bought out because no one would take the contract even if you ate half of it (I'm assuming the asset going the other way would be minor and not really part of the calculation). That means the player can't expect to get more than 50% of his current deal on a new deal. That puts most of these guys' ceiling at < $2.5M. Semin is the exception to that math - he'd be no more than $3.5M.
If you could get a guy like Clarkson for $1M, I think you could take that chance. He would fit the "identity" goals for this team; he may have been a $5M disaster in Toronto, but for $1M or even a little more, 10 goals and 158 hits in 58 games would look good for a bottom six forward. Except on the defensive side of the ledger, he'd be an upgrade on Kelly both in physicality and in goals. At $1M, you could try Lucic-Krejci-Clarkson and see if he can play the Horton/Iginla role as a shoot first physical RW - recapture that 30 goal season magic? And if that proves to be a pipe dream, send him to Providence and eat $100K. No big deal. You could use the same logic on Weiss. Bring him in to push Spooner and play wing if Spooner continues to play well. If he takes $1.5M, you eat $600K if you send him down. Risk/Reward.
But this logic falls apart if you talk about Semin. He'd have to be a top line or top two line winger or you might as well not bother. If you get him on a trade, you get the whole contract which runs to 2018, and the lowest salary you'd get him at is $3.5M. If he totally tanks, that's a major hit - $2.5M in cap if you just send him down, and $1.1 or something to that effect for the next four years if you buy him out after next year. Ugh. He hasn't been a 30 goal scorer since 2010, so it's hard to say the potential reward is a 40 goal scorer. It's quite possible he would produce the same number of points as Smith for the same money, and everyone wants to dump the younger, still improving (I think) Smith. So no. No to Semin because he doesn't fit the logic here AND because he's a Cooke.
No to Cooke because he's a Cooke. He's the biggest frikkin' Cooke in the whole league. The only regret I'd have about him being out of the league is that no one will end that Cooke's career for him.
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Post by NAS on Jun 22, 2015 21:31:09 GMT
Cooke. LOL
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Post by walktheline on Jun 22, 2015 22:05:04 GMT
I was reading along and was hoping book was going to put together a line of Lucic Kelly Clarkson which would leave you one person short  |
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