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Post by thanx4memORRies on Mar 10, 2024 14:51:00 GMT
What I don’t understand is people bitching about something’s that’s permitted…. If Donnie was able to bring in guys like Hanifin and Hertl at the deadline, people would be giving him the Nobel Prize…. Kudos to Vegas…. And hope Butch’s squad takes out the Oilers again too…. It's been reported that Stone's latest injury is a lacerated spleen, i don't think you can fake that? The recovery time for a lacerated spleen is between 2-2 1/2 months. I wouls assume the Knights picked up Hertl because they know Stone won't be back for the start of the playoffs if he comes at all. Unfortunately with the timing of the injury it optically looks bad but it seems legit, good for Vegas for getting the players they think they need. Exactly, and someone must be on LTIR on the d-corps too in order to bring in beantown boy…. Think Stone’s done also, but if he rises like Lazarus, it’ll be up to them to figure it out…. This Vegas backlash ever since entering the league is nothing but schoolyard gibberish to me…. Kudos to the NHL for being the first professional sports league to bring a team there and ahead of the other big three that are always talked about first….
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 10, 2024 17:44:59 GMT
It's been reported that Stone's latest injury is a lacerated spleen, i don't think you can fake that? The recovery time for a lacerated spleen is between 2-2 1/2 months. I wouls assume the Knights picked up Hertl because they know Stone won't be back for the start of the playoffs if he comes at all. Unfortunately with the timing of the injury it optically looks bad but it seems legit, good for Vegas for getting the players they think they need. Exactly, and someone must be on LTIR on the d-corps too in order to bring in beantown boy…. Think Stone’s done also, but if he rises like Lazarus, it’ll be up to them to figure it out…. This Vegas backlash ever since entering the league is nothing but schoolyard gibberish to me…. Kudos to the NHL for being the first professional sports league to bring a team there and ahead of the other big three that are always talked about first…. Yep, i have no problem with Vegas, never have and don't really get the animosity since they came into the league but whatever. I have a little problem with the Kucherov one though as his injury was severe enough to have him miss the entire season but miraculously 2 days after the regular season is over he's ready for game #1 of the playoffs. There's no way you can have me believe he couldn't have played the last month of the regular season, last 2 weeks or last game of the regular season, the stink doesn't come out in the wash.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 10, 2024 17:47:03 GMT
maybe Ullmark knows full well, if Sway fails, he is going to get his opportunity. Ultimately, he wants to be part of the postseason experience and maybe his worth comes as a playoff goalie...now if Sway is freaking fantastic, then so what...to me I want The Huggie Bears to be together in this final 23-24 run for the pair. We know Linus is gone next year so let's enjoy this one. I'm fine with them keeping both... As long as they are smart enough to use them properly this time. Yup.
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Post by islamorada on Mar 10, 2024 18:43:08 GMT
It's been reported that Stone's latest injury is a lacerated spleen, i don't think you can fake that? The recovery time for a lacerated spleen is between 2-2 1/2 months. I wouls assume the Knights picked up Hertl because they know Stone won't be back for the start of the playoffs if he comes at all. Unfortunately with the timing of the injury it optically looks bad but it seems legit, good for Vegas for getting the players they think they need. Exactly, and someone must be on LTIR on the d-corps too in order to bring in beantown boy…. Think Stone’s done also, but if he rises like Lazarus, it’ll be up to them to figure it out…. This Vegas backlash ever since entering the league is nothing but schoolyard gibberish to me…. Kudos to the NHL for being the first professional sports league to bring a team there and ahead of the other big three that are always talked about first…. The intent of the CBA and the rule of the CBA are two things now. If Stone was injured in December, Vegas would not have been able to trade for Hertl. So those 2.5 months would have been with a hard cap. Those are the breaks. Stone being out for 2.5 months and coming back to play in the playoffs is legal but certainly not in the intent of the CBA, Kucherov is the better example. Something has to be done to make sure Cap compliance is applied to the playoffs. Intent of the law is always considered in an appellate court. So should the CBA with Bettman.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Mar 11, 2024 1:17:05 GMT
Was gonna say, wondered out loud if McQuaid had input. If anyone knows about clearing the crease and other housekeeping, it's him.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Mar 11, 2024 1:21:42 GMT
At 0:56, Peeke's descripiton of his playing style was music to my ears:
He looks like he could be a member of the McAvoy clan.
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Post by mdsizzle on Mar 11, 2024 11:26:52 GMT
Hopefully Peeke will make a physical presence, we really need it.
From Maroon's interview it seems more like he was being shopped than DS was looking for toughness... Which seems to fit into DS's strategy of "do little, screw up little" strategy.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 11, 2024 14:45:05 GMT
Ao with Ullmark gone at the draft. The Bs will be back at $27.5M under the cap. Listening to NESN TDL show, Brick and Jaffe basically said goalie trades are uncommon and generally during the summer. Ullmark will undoubtedly be gone by this time next year. DS got Zacha for a UFA. Ullmark was a UFA, so what ever happens it is a plus imo. Sways and Linus have a good bond and the team culture is real not just talk. So be it. I wrote this a couple of other places recently, but the Ryan Miller experiment in STL combined with the CBA's restrictions on on-ice practice time and how they limit a goalie's chance of getting up to speed make most teams leery of trying an in-season trade for a starter. I think the only time you'll see it is if a team that thinks they have a legit shot loses their franchise goalie for the year. So what happened in Carolina, but with no shot Andersen could come back. Even then, that team would have to be squeezed for time because Kotchetkyov has been very good, so the loss would have to happen close enough to the deadline that they don't have a chance for the backup to prove he can carry them. And I'm not 100% sure they will deal Ullmark this summer. Looking at the numbers a bit, Swayman at $7M and Ullmark at $5M is the same percentage of a $92M Cap as Tuukka plus a $1M backup was when he signed is $7M deal. You can make it work, and unless the return is a young C who can be the number 1 here for a long time, I might consider that route. Just don't hand out any NMCs.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 11, 2024 14:58:10 GMT
Exactly, and someone must be on LTIR on the d-corps too in order to bring in beantown boy…. Think Stone’s done also, but if he rises like Lazarus, it’ll be up to them to figure it out…. This Vegas backlash ever since entering the league is nothing but schoolyard gibberish to me…. Kudos to the NHL for being the first professional sports league to bring a team there and ahead of the other big three that are always talked about first…. The intent of the CBA and the rule of the CBA are two things now. If Stone was injured in December, Vegas would not have been able to trade for Hertl. So those 2.5 months would have been with a hard cap. Those are the breaks. Stone being out for 2.5 months and coming back to play in the playoffs is legal but certainly not in the intent of the CBA, Kucherov is the better example. Something has to be done to make sure Cap compliance is applied to the playoffs. Intent of the law is always considered in an appellate court. So should the CBA with Bettman. The whole of the trade deadline is the issue here, and I don't think they're willing to meddle with that. The whole point of teams making big rental deals at the deadline is to ice a team with a much higher AAV than you could if you had to pay them for the full season. And as long as you have enough cash to pay their salaries for the remaining 20 games or so and still be compliant, no one bats an eye. It's only when the way you're able to pay the salary comes from LTIR relief that people get bent out of shape. It's definitely a flaw in the system, but I'm not sure they know how to fix it and keep the eyeballs on the deadline as well as packing as many stars as possible into the playoffs. You could have some provisions that work in concert to try and protect the integrity of LTIR as "relief". Say: 1. A player on LTIR must be removed from LTIR and returned to the team's salary structure at least X days before the end of the regular season in order to be eligible for the first round of the playoffs. If the player is still unable to play, the player may remain on IR, but the team must have the necessary salary dollars within their Cap budget. 2. A player who has not been returned to the Cap structure before the playoffs shall only be permitted to return to play in the second (third?) round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. 3. In no case may the total AAV of players on a playoff roster exceed the salary cap by more than X% IF the team entered the last X days of the regular season with players on LTIR.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 11, 2024 15:25:48 GMT
Hopefully Peeke will make a physical presence, we really need it. From Maroon's interview it seems more like he was being shopped than DS was looking for toughness... Which seems to fit into DS's strategy of "do little, screw up little" strategy. McQuaid knows a little bit about being a Columbus second round pick as a nasty stay at home defender who found his way in Boston. Good mentor. One of the things I don't mind about this - along with the idea that he's got size (don't think he's that nasty, to be honest) - is that he went 34th. In a decade, that will be a first rounder. I'll take it for Zboril (zero value to the Bruins and a UFA at year's end) and a third (closer to a 4th, let's hope). To my mind, it means that scouts saw a player with high end athletic ability. CSA didn't have him that high - he was 57th NA skater. But then Ryan Lindgren and Adam Fox were 49 and 50. I think this means the team comes into next year with a top six of Lindholm-McAvoy, Lohrei-Carlo, Wotherspoon-Peake. Unless someone else in the Providence Party Pack of D who should be on the cusp can make a play for a spot or Sweeney gets a UFA on the cheap. There are a few guys on the market who might not get big money offers and might want to come to Boston. Everyone is raving about OEL in Florida, for example, and Boston was one of two teams he said he'd allow the Coyotes to trade him to. Brendan Dillon's 33 so he might seem like a risk to decline. But in any event, I don't mind that 5-6...but I reserve the right to change my mind if Wotherspoon's recent play is more mirage than reality and if Peake's a disaster.
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 11, 2024 18:31:50 GMT
I don't think Peeke has near the mean streak of McQuaid. That's ok though, if he can play a solid physical game and be hard on opposing forwards then that will work for me, he's also young and has size. If Adam can give him a few pointers on how to fight all the better.
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Post by islamorada on Mar 11, 2024 18:38:15 GMT
The intent of the CBA and the rule of the CBA are two things now. If Stone was injured in December, Vegas would not have been able to trade for Hertl. So those 2.5 months would have been with a hard cap. Those are the breaks. Stone being out for 2.5 months and coming back to play in the playoffs is legal but certainly not in the intent of the CBA, Kucherov is the better example. Something has to be done to make sure Cap compliance is applied to the playoffs. Intent of the law is always considered in an appellate court. So should the CBA with Bettman. The whole of the trade deadline is the issue here, and I don't think they're willing to meddle with that. The whole point of teams making big rental deals at the deadline is to ice a team with a much higher AAV than you could if you had to pay them for the full season. And as long as you have enough cash to pay their salaries for the remaining 20 games or so and still be compliant, no one bats an eye. It's only when the way you're able to pay the salary comes from LTIR relief that people get bent out of shape. It's definitely a flaw in the system, but I'm not sure they know how to fix it and keep the eyeballs on the deadline as well as packing as many stars as possible into the playoffs. You could have some provisions that work in concert to try and protect the integrity of LTIR as "relief". Say: 1. A player on LTIR must be removed from LTIR and returned to the team's salary structure at least X days before the end of the regular season in order to be eligible for the first round of the playoffs. If the player is still unable to play, the player may remain on IR, but the team must have the necessary salary dollars within their Cap budget. 2. A player who has not been returned to the Cap structure before the playoffs shall only be permitted to return to play in the second (third?) round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. 3. In no case may the total AAV of players on a playoff roster exceed the salary cap by more than X% IF the team entered the last X days of the regular season with players on LTIR. Moving the TDL to January would certainly alleviate some of the unfairness.
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Post by islamorada on Mar 11, 2024 19:00:50 GMT
I don't think Peeke has near the mean streak of McQuaid. That's ok though, if he can play a solid physical game and be hard on opposing forwards then that will work for me, he's also young and has size. If Adam can give him a few pointers on how to fight all the better. Apparently his ice time was increased under coach Brad Larson. This year it diminished considerably Vincent. Columbus fans were relieved to see him go, ie. Cap money savings was noted. As you say age and size is a significant given he is a RD. As I read more on his play, he seems to be mobile and has adjusted to using his size in the NHL. I did not read of anything of his shot, not that it matters in today's games. The criticism primarily was getting out of position. I view the addition as a RD with experience.
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 11, 2024 19:07:34 GMT
I don't think Peeke has near the mean streak of McQuaid. That's ok though, if he can play a solid physical game and be hard on opposing forwards then that will work for me, he's also young and has size. If Adam can give him a few pointers on how to fight all the better. Apparently his ice time was increased under coach Brad Larson. This year it diminished considerably Vincent. Columbus fans were relieved to see him go, ie. Cap money savings was noted. As you say age and size is a significant given he is a RD. As I read more on his play, he seems to be mobile and has adjusted to using his size in the NHL. I did not read of anything of his shot, not that it matters in today's games. The criticism primarily was getting out of position. I view the addition as a RD with experience. I think playing out of position can be corrected, different systems, different coaches. Peeke has played his entire short career with the BJ's who have been a dumpster for awhile, this change could suit him well.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 11, 2024 19:41:25 GMT
Apparently his ice time was increased under coach Brad Larson. This year it diminished considerably Vincent. Columbus fans were relieved to see him go, ie. Cap money savings was noted. As you say age and size is a significant given he is a RD. As I read more on his play, he seems to be mobile and has adjusted to using his size in the NHL. I did not read of anything of his shot, not that it matters in today's games. The criticism primarily was getting out of position. I view the addition as a RD with experience. I think playing out of position can be corrected, different systems, different coaches. Peeke has played his entire short career with the BJ's who have been a dumpster for awhile, this change could suit him well. The stuff about McQuaid saying the Bruins structure should work for him gets me thinking this could be a smart under the radar move in the Boychuk/McQuaid/Seidenberg mold. Boychuk was crusher masquerading as a rusher in the Colorado system; put him next Z with the 6'9" giant saying "either you pass to me or off glass and out..." and the next thing you know he's signing for $6M on Lon guyland. Seidenberg was supposed to be a PMD type but he never put up great numbers either offensively or defensively. Put him under Claude and he's a rock. I think there's a chance this kid can be the same sort of story. Play short minutes. Play the system. Keep it simple. Eat pucks on the PK and make it painful to get close to the net in Boston's zone. And for f***'s sake, don't trade that third rounder to Dallas so they can draft the next Jamie Benn with it.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Mar 12, 2024 2:01:16 GMT
Hopefully Peeke will make a physical presence, we really need it. From Maroon's interview it seems more like he was being shopped than DS was looking for toughness... Which seems to fit into DS's strategy of "do little, screw up little" strategy. McQuaid knows a little bit about being a Columbus second round pick as a nasty stay at home defender who found his way in Boston. Good mentor. One of the things I don't mind about this - along with the idea that he's got size (don't think he's that nasty, to be honest) - is that he went 34th. In a decade, that will be a first rounder. I'll take it for Zboril (zero value to the Bruins and a UFA at year's end) and a third (closer to a 4th, let's hope). To my mind, it means that scouts saw a player with high end athletic ability. CSA didn't have him that high - he was 57th NA skater. But then Ryan Lindgren and Adam Fox were 49 and 50. I think this means the team comes into next year with a top six of Lindholm-McAvoy, Lohrei-Carlo, Wotherspoon-Peake. Unless someone else in the Providence Party Pack of D who should be on the cusp can make a play for a spot or Sweeney gets a UFA on the cheap. There are a few guys on the market who might not get big money offers and might want to come to Boston. Everyone is raving about OEL in Florida, for example, and Boston was one of two teams he said he'd allow the Coyotes to trade him to. Brendan Dillon's 33 so he might seem like a risk to decline. But in any event, I don't mind that 5-6...but I reserve the right to change my mind if Wotherspoon's recent play is more mirage than reality and if Peake's a disaster. I couldn't help but notice the absense of one Matt Grit-less.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Mar 12, 2024 2:05:07 GMT
I don't think Peeke has near the mean streak of McQuaid. That's ok though, if he can play a solid physical game and be hard on opposing forwards then that will work for me, he's also young and has size. If Adam can give him a few pointers on how to fight all the better. I don't think many have his level of "I'm gonna punch your face so hard, my fist is gonna come out the back of your skull" hostility. I think Peeke's own description of playing physical means taking the body when the opportunity is there not scrapping.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 12, 2024 19:43:16 GMT
McQuaid knows a little bit about being a Columbus second round pick as a nasty stay at home defender who found his way in Boston. Good mentor. One of the things I don't mind about this - along with the idea that he's got size (don't think he's that nasty, to be honest) - is that he went 34th. In a decade, that will be a first rounder. I'll take it for Zboril (zero value to the Bruins and a UFA at year's end) and a third (closer to a 4th, let's hope). To my mind, it means that scouts saw a player with high end athletic ability. CSA didn't have him that high - he was 57th NA skater. But then Ryan Lindgren and Adam Fox were 49 and 50. I think this means the team comes into next year with a top six of Lindholm-McAvoy, Lohrei-Carlo, Wotherspoon-Peake. Unless someone else in the Providence Party Pack of D who should be on the cusp can make a play for a spot or Sweeney gets a UFA on the cheap. There are a few guys on the market who might not get big money offers and might want to come to Boston. Everyone is raving about OEL in Florida, for example, and Boston was one of two teams he said he'd allow the Coyotes to trade him to. Brendan Dillon's 33 so he might seem like a risk to decline. But in any event, I don't mind that 5-6...but I reserve the right to change my mind if Wotherspoon's recent play is more mirage than reality and if Peake's a disaster. I couldn't help but notice the absense of one Matt Grit-less. Let's hope you notice it all year next year.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 12, 2024 20:12:23 GMT
Played it out in another thread, but with Wotherspoon and Peake penciled in as 5-6 for next year, the Bruins have over $22M for two left wingers, a fourth liner, a goalie and depth players. Even if you take the path of least resistance, give Debrusk $6M and Swayman $7M, Heinen $2M, you still have over $7M for a 3rd line LW, a 13th F (Boqvist? Lysell?) and a 7th D (Mitchell or someone late in their career?). That leaves about $4M to play around with options. You could add that to the $2M for Heinen and chase a higher-end LW for the second line. You could add it to the $6M for Jake and chase a first line C who would bump someone to the wings (losing Debrusk in the process, of course). And you can do that with Ullmark and Swayman on the roster at $12M total.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Mar 12, 2024 20:29:05 GMT
maybe Ullmark knows full well, if Sway fails, he is going to get his opportunity. Ultimately, he wants to be part of the postseason experience and maybe his worth comes as a playoff goalie...now if Sway is freaking fantastic, then so what...to me I want The Huggie Bears to be together in this final 23-24 run for the pair. We know Linus is gone next year so let's enjoy this one. I'm fine with them keeping both... As long as they are smart enough to use them properly this time. Swayman will start the playoffs. His spot to lose.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Mar 14, 2024 4:39:57 GMT
I couldn't help but notice the absense of one Matt Grit-less. Let's hope you notice it all year next year.
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