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Post by dannycater on Apr 14, 2024 15:04:34 GMT
OK stop being a POS San! I understand you don't like the guy. For a time. I didn't either, but comeon! The kid has grown up to be one of the greatest hockey players on & off the ice! He's WON every where he's played! What he's still doing at his age & putting his team on his back especially after the Gentzel trade should be complimented! You sound like a real arrogant POS! What this man does for his community, charity & how he's grown as a player should be praised, not ridiculed! Grow the fuck up! Piss off you tool. I'm writing about Sids on the ice constant complaining and whining. Only you couldn't figure out that my comments have NOTHING to do with what he does off the ice or what he does in the Pittsburgh community (I know what he does). The two are not the same. I'm not criticizing what he's done as a player performing as an absolute beast of a skater. Which he is...a phenomenal player. Praised his abilities throughout his career. But he's a fucking whiny cunt! And plays for an organization that blatantly denied that Matt Cooke and Ulf Samuelsson did no wrong in their actions towards Bruins players. Subsequently ended two great Boston players careers. You don't like my comments about your bitch ? Put me on ignore and go suck a dick you tool! He does whine that's for sure...that has been part of his M.O. for long time...sometimes that whining helped him get PP and draw penalties too. I will never forgive the 2 Criminals known as Cooke/Ulf....What always puts a smile on my face is Rask holding Pens to 2 goals in 4 games in what has to still go down as the greatest goaltending performance in a 4-game series in NHL history.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 14, 2024 15:28:31 GMT
Also I didn't give this guy enough credit...Zacha was freaking awesome v. Pens..his game has elevated like crazy...Completely impressed by him and his emergence as offensive talent to go with the other aspects...He was for a few months so frustrating to watch and then he kind of just moved on from the 46 binky of last year...one of the best signings in Sweeney's tenure...total mainstay. Way to go 18!!! Go B's!
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 14, 2024 17:26:50 GMT
Piss off you tool. I'm writing about Sids on the ice constant complaining and whining. Only you couldn't figure out that my comments have NOTHING to do with what he does off the ice or what he does in the Pittsburgh community (I know what he does). The two are not the same. I'm not criticizing what he's done as a player performing as an absolute beast of a skater. Which he is...a phenomenal player. Praised his abilities throughout his career. But he's a fucking whiny cunt! And plays for an organization that blatantly denied that Matt Cooke and Ulf Samuelsson did no wrong in their actions towards Bruins players. Subsequently ended two great Boston players careers. You don't like my comments about your bitch ? Put me on ignore and go suck a dick you tool! He does whine that's for sure...that has been part of his M.O. for long time...sometimes that whining helped him get PP and draw penalties too. I will never forgive the 2 Criminals known as Cooke/Ulf....What always puts a smile on my face is Rask holding Pens to 2 goals in 4 games in what has to still go down as the greatest goaltending performance in a 4-game series in NHL history. Also Pittsburgh not making the playoffs is a big Eff You to John Henry!
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 14, 2024 17:47:16 GMT
The layers of hate for the Pens is deeper than the Bruins defensive scheme.
1. They have twice chosen epic tanks in the attempt to get a generational player. "So what, Book - they have rings to show for it!" Sure. But they also nearly folded because of it on numerous occasions and were propped up and coddled by the league to keep a team in that market even when their own fans were staying away from a garbage product. They should have earned those tings elsewhere.
2. Hypocrisy. No one person has been more vocal about protecting skill players from injury than Mario Lemieux; no franchise has turned a blind eye to their players deliberately endangering other players - stars - going so far as ti prioritze acquiring players with that reputation than the Penguins.
3. Boston specific shit. copying the colours. Ending the Cup window in Boston in the Neely era. Savard and Neely injuries. Whining.
I acknowledge Crosby is a great player but I am sick of the ball washing. How is he any more "single handed" than Pastrnak or MacKinnon? Fuck off, lazy media hacks.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 14, 2024 17:47:51 GMT
He does whine that's for sure...that has been part of his M.O. for long time...sometimes that whining helped him get PP and draw penalties too. I will never forgive the 2 Criminals known as Cooke/Ulf....What always puts a smile on my face is Rask holding Pens to 2 goals in 4 games in what has to still go down as the greatest goaltending performance in a 4-game series in NHL history. Also Pittsburgh not making the playoffs is a big Eff You to John Henry! This goes under "Boston specific"
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Post by zamboni24 on Apr 14, 2024 19:36:12 GMT
0 points in 12 career playoff games. 9. He's played 9 playoff games. And a grand total of just over 80 minutes, or the equivalent of four games by Pastrnak or Marchand. Also zero PPTOI. Also, he isn't the same player he was three years ago when he had his first playoff action; he's increased his scoring every year. Last year, he got hosed for TOI with the rentals, so hard to say he had a fair shot to contribute as a scorer. Has he been good? No. But I don't think it really tells us anything usefu to say he hasn't scored. He's been used sparingly, and his lines have managed to get scored on, but I can't remember if that's because if mistakes he made or if he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Definitely he needs to play a more engaged playoff game this year. They need the good Freddy. Goals, hits, grease. All good points but I basically see a kid who has worked on his overall skills. Seems to have picked up some speed and also appears to be more confident and less afraid to try stuff and be more creative. I do miss his snarl of old but I think he’s rounded his game to be an all around better player. As usual — how that translates to effective playoff hockey remains to be seen
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Post by zamboni24 on Apr 14, 2024 19:49:21 GMT
Piss off you tool. I'm writing about Sids on the ice constant complaining and whining. Only you couldn't figure out that my comments have NOTHING to do with what he does off the ice or what he does in the Pittsburgh community (I know what he does). The two are not the same. I'm not criticizing what he's done as a player performing as an absolute beast of a skater. Which he is...a phenomenal player. Praised his abilities throughout his career. But he's a fucking whiny cunt! And plays for an organization that blatantly denied that Matt Cooke and Ulf Samuelsson did no wrong in their actions towards Bruins players. Subsequently ended two great Boston players careers. You don't like my comments about your bitch ? Put me on ignore and go suck a dick you tool! He does whine that's for sure...that has been part of his M.O. for long time...sometimes that whining helped him get PP and draw penalties too. I will never forgive the 2 Criminals known as Cooke/Ulf....What always puts a smile on my face is Rask holding Pens to 2 goals in 4 games in what has to still go down as the greatest goaltending performance in a 4-game series in NHL history. Maybe it’s just me but I’ve seen him take some pretty good cheap shots over the 4th quarter of his career (many of them compliments of the Flyers) and seem to turn the other cheek. I did gain some respect during a game with the Bruins many years ago. Can’t remember who but — he was chirping back and forth and someone quoted “yea your real tough with all that face protection”. He skated to the bench and spoke with the trainer. His next shift he came out with the shield removed. Bruin player was stunned and skated the other way when approached by Sid.
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Post by zamboni24 on Apr 14, 2024 19:54:51 GMT
I enjoyed winning in pissburgh :salute: I have some embarrassing thoughts when it comes to Pens. I was traveling from Jersey by train for a B’s away game. The lady at the ticket booth was sporting a low cut top with quite a bit showing. I got really tongue tied by her appearance and asked her for 2 pickets to titsburgh.
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Post by islamorada on Apr 14, 2024 20:11:30 GMT
The layers of hate for the Pens is deeper than the Bruins defensive scheme. 1. They have twice chosen epic tanks in the attempt to get a generational player. "So what, Book - they have rings to show for it!" Sure. But they also nearly folded because of it on numerous occasions and were propped up and coddled by the league to keep a team in that market even when their own fans were staying away from a garbage product. They should have earned those tings elsewhere. 2. Hypocrisy. No one person has been more vocal about protecting skill players from injury than Mario Lemieux; no franchise has turned a blind eye to their players deliberately endangering other players - stars - going so far as ti prioritze acquiring players with that reputation than the Penguins. 3. Boston specific shit. copying the colours. Ending the Cup window in Boston in the Neely era. Savard and Neely injuries. Whining. I acknowledge Crosby is a great player but I am sick of the ball washing. How is he any more "single handed" than Pastrnak or MacKinnon? Fuck off, lazy media hacks. I agreed with Nite's assessment of Crosby before the beginning of the game. Then I see Crosby fly by Ullmark as a moving screen hitting him that was clearly goalie interference. Bunting did it earlier. Then when Pasta made a slapshot at the end of the game, Crosby in typical fashion comes up to admonish Pasta for poor sportsmanship. WTF. So the respect I had before the game was vanished by his crybaby behavior. Number 3 is specifically a hate. The tanking will be delayed now with the resurgence the past ten games or so. Good, dream on.... Karlsson is your savior, not. Retirement home on skates for the next few years.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 14, 2024 21:28:49 GMT
The layers of hate for the Pens is deeper than the Bruins defensive scheme. 1. They have twice chosen epic tanks in the attempt to get a generational player. "So what, Book - they have rings to show for it!" Sure. But they also nearly folded because of it on numerous occasions and were propped up and coddled by the league to keep a team in that market even when their own fans were staying away from a garbage product. They should have earned those tings elsewhere. 2. Hypocrisy. No one person has been more vocal about protecting skill players from injury than Mario Lemieux; no franchise has turned a blind eye to their players deliberately endangering other players - stars - going so far as ti prioritze acquiring players with that reputation than the Penguins. 3. Boston specific shit. copying the colours. Ending the Cup window in Boston in the Neely era. Savard and Neely injuries. Whining. I acknowledge Crosby is a great player but I am sick of the ball washing. How is he any more "single handed" than Pastrnak or MacKinnon? Fuck off, lazy media hacks. I agreed with Nite's assessment of Crosby before the beginning of the game. Then I see Crosby fly by Ullmark as a moving screen hitting him that was clearly goalie interference. Bunting did it earlier. Then when Pasta made a slapshot at the end of the game, Crosby in typical fashion comes up to admonish Pasta for poor sportsmanship. WTF. So the respect I had before the game was vanished by his crybaby behavior. Number 3 is specifically a hate. The tanking will be delayed now with the resurgence the past ten games or so. Good, dream on.... Karlsson is your savior, not. Retirement home on skates for the next few years. I'm going to defend Pasta and Sid the Other Great One (no he is not Gretzky nor Orr)...Pasta I swear thought the net was empty, hell I did, I couldn't believe it when I saw Murray back in net...that was just bizarre....Crosby I get it...look, game is over and it's 3 seconds left and Pasta unloads a slapper...believe me if it were the other way, the B's would have been pissed...I think the big thing here is that Crosby is defending his goalie or at least saying hey that's piling on there...Pasta had the breakaway and just did what he does...take the shot. So all good, don't have to go into analytics on this...2 guys did what they felt they should do at that moment. So all good. Ferraro even said Sid was frustrated...it happens
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Post by zamboni24 on Apr 15, 2024 1:40:19 GMT
Maybe I just missed it but saw this morning that Shatts got fined max $2734.48 for unsportsmanlike conduct at the 19:37 mark of the 1st period.
I always keep the game recording for a while just in case. Upon numerous reviews it looks like he took exception to Cunting skating thru Ullmark's crease and upending him. As he continued to the bench just barely off the replay view that I had you can catch Shattenkirk's stick reach out from the bench to send a message to the little punk.
Bottom line -- If that mini slew foot was called -- #12 may not have retaliated. No surprise -- #8 continues his bitchery. At that point there was 2 periods left. Plenty of time for someone to freight train him before the game ended.
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Post by islamorada on Apr 15, 2024 12:20:11 GMT
I agreed with Nite's assessment of Crosby before the beginning of the game. Then I see Crosby fly by Ullmark as a moving screen hitting him that was clearly goalie interference. Bunting did it earlier. Then when Pasta made a slapshot at the end of the game, Crosby in typical fashion comes up to admonish Pasta for poor sportsmanship. WTF. So the respect I had before the game was vanished by his crybaby behavior. Number 3 is specifically a hate. The tanking will be delayed now with the resurgence the past ten games or so. Good, dream on.... Karlsson is your savior, not. Retirement home on skates for the next few years. I'm going to defend Pasta and Sid the Other Great One (no he is not Gretzky nor Orr)...Pasta I swear thought the net was empty, hell I did, I couldn't believe it when I saw Murray back in net...that was just bizarre....Crosby I get it...look, game is over and it's 3 seconds left and Pasta unloads a slapper...believe me if it were the other way, the B's would have been pissed...I think the big thing here is that Crosby is defending his goalie or at least saying hey that's piling on there...Pasta had the breakaway and just did what he does...take the shot. So all good, don't have to go into analytics on this...2 guys did what they felt they should do at that moment. So all good. Ferraro even said Sid was frustrated...it happens You may be right, but more than likely Pasta knows any goaltender worth his money is going to stop a slap shot. As far Figarro is concerned, he also stated Crosby's fly by knocking over Ullmark was borderline goalie interference. No credibility quoting from Ferraro. Crosby is a great player, but he is not too much different than Marchand when it comes to being an arse. Who gets the better treatment though.
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Post by chappy28 on Apr 15, 2024 13:12:56 GMT
Also I didn't give this guy enough credit...Zacha was freaking awesome v. Pens..his game has elevated like crazy...Completely impressed by him and his emergence as offensive talent to go with the other aspects...He was for a few months so frustrating to watch and then he kind of just moved on from the 46 binky of last year...one of the best signings in Sweeney's tenure...total mainstay. Way to go 18!!! Go B's! While I still refuse to put Zacha/Coyle on the same level as Bergy/DK, one thing that they both have going for them is that they are physical specimens. Zacha comes in at 6'4 207, Coyle at 6'3" 218. It definitely is a different look/capability with those guys working down low and protecting the puck. I still don't think they have the overall IQ of Bergy or DK who were off the charts but from a physical standpoint they are both beasts. When they are on their game and playing confident they are a handful. Amazing what this team did this year. Not many people would have bet on these two guys not just keeping us in the playoffs, but contending for the Presidents trophy. Have to give DS kudos on this one. Also have to give Montgomery a lot of credit for taking a totally different roster from last year, and adjusting our play style to fit out strengths to get the results that we were able to achieve. And last shout out goes to Pasta. Somehow didn't score last game, but just creating dangerous chances non stop. Hard to exclude him from MVP talk. The guy single-handedly kept our offense afloat all year. An absolute joy to watch this guy play hockey. I don't know if I can think of 5 players that I'd rather have in the league.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 15, 2024 13:17:01 GMT
Also I didn't give this guy enough credit...Zacha was freaking awesome v. Pens..his game has elevated like crazy...Completely impressed by him and his emergence as offensive talent to go with the other aspects...He was for a few months so frustrating to watch and then he kind of just moved on from the 46 binky of last year...one of the best signings in Sweeney's tenure...total mainstay. Way to go 18!!! Go B's! While I still refuse to put Zacha/Coyle on the same level as Bergy/DK, one thing that they both have going for them is that they are physical specimens. Zacha comes in at 6'4 207, Coyle at 6'3" 218. It definitely is a different look/capability with those guys working down low and protecting the puck. I still don't think they have the overall IQ of Bergy or DK who were off the charts but from a physical standpoint they are both beasts. When they are on their game and playing confident they are a handful. Amazing what this team did this year. Not many people would have bet on these two guys not just keeping us in the playoffs, but contending for the Presidents trophy. Have to give DS kudos on this one. Also have to give Montgomery a lot of credit for taking a totally different roster from last year, and adjusting our play style to fit out strengths to get the results that we were able to achieve. And last shout out goes to Pasta. Somehow didn't score last game, but just creating dangerous chances non stop. Hard to exclude him from MVP talk. The guy single-handedly kept our offense afloat all year. An absolute joy to watch this guy play hockey. I don't know if I can think of 5 players that I'd rather have in the league. 100 Percent...also to add in the MVP talk--Kucherov has amazing PP guys (Stamkos, Hedberg) and Point---Pasta has Heinen and Zacha--think about that and a shitty PP too...Pasta probably won't even make the final 3 this year the way the NHL has taken this award and not really looked at what about a guy virtually doing things on his own to help his team get as many team points and be so far ahead of the next B in points....it's remarkable. This is Pasta's best season, last season was his top offensive season, this is his best season by leaps and bounds. I hope he makes a splash in playoffs to really accentuate this point.
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Post by chappy28 on Apr 15, 2024 13:36:00 GMT
While I still refuse to put Zacha/Coyle on the same level as Bergy/DK, one thing that they both have going for them is that they are physical specimens. Zacha comes in at 6'4 207, Coyle at 6'3" 218. It definitely is a different look/capability with those guys working down low and protecting the puck. I still don't think they have the overall IQ of Bergy or DK who were off the charts but from a physical standpoint they are both beasts. When they are on their game and playing confident they are a handful. Amazing what this team did this year. Not many people would have bet on these two guys not just keeping us in the playoffs, but contending for the Presidents trophy. Have to give DS kudos on this one. Also have to give Montgomery a lot of credit for taking a totally different roster from last year, and adjusting our play style to fit out strengths to get the results that we were able to achieve. And last shout out goes to Pasta. Somehow didn't score last game, but just creating dangerous chances non stop. Hard to exclude him from MVP talk. The guy single-handedly kept our offense afloat all year. An absolute joy to watch this guy play hockey. I don't know if I can think of 5 players that I'd rather have in the league. 100 Percent...also to add in the MVP talk--Kucherov has amazing PP guys (Stamkos, Hedberg) and Point---Pasta has Heinen and Zacha--think about that and a shitty PP too...Pasta probably won't even make the final 3 this year the way the NHL has taken this award and not really looked at what about a guy virtually doing things on his own to help his team get as many team points and be so far ahead of the next B in points....it's remarkable. This is Pasta's best season, last season was his top offensive season, this is his best season by leaps and bounds. I hope he makes a splash in playoffs to really accentuate this point. Yep. With Bergy and DK gone, and Brad getting older, Pasta officially became the unquestioned leader of this offense. He was our best offensive player last year for sure, but I don't think he was the "leader". This year, he's the guy, and there's no-one close. If MVP award was really about most valuable player to their team I think you have McDavid/Pasta 1/2. Tough to take any credit from McDavid, but arguably our team is the better team with the less talented roster so even then you can make an argument that Pasta is more valuable. Great to see him mature into this bigger role. I think he's come a long way from the care-free kid in the locker room and is becoming one of the alpha's of this league.
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Post by Lord Markwart on Apr 15, 2024 14:35:27 GMT
** Have to wonder if Syd would have said anything had it been Freddy or Maroon with the slapper at the end of the game instead of Pasta. I like Syd as a talent but he leads the league with his face just saying "bitch slap" me.
** I am scarred to this day by Cooke and Ulf. They erased any goodwill feelings I was having about the Pens during Super Mario's reign and part 2.
*** Pens special teams numbers are unbelievably atrocious for the talent level they put on the ice. I predict the axe will fall on Sullivan and that coaching staff first at the end of this season.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 15, 2024 16:38:34 GMT
** Have to wonder if Syd would have said anything had it been Freddy or Maroon with the slapper at the end of the game instead of Pasta. I like Syd as a talent but he leads the league with his face just saying "bitch slap" me. ** I am scarred to this day by Cooke and Ulf. They erased any goodwill feelings I was having about the Pens during Super Mario's reign and part 2. *** Pens special teams numbers are unbelievably atrocious for the talent level they put on the ice. I predict the axe will fall on Sullivan and that coaching staff first at the end of this season. If they don't make it? For sure. 200% likely if the Laffs get bounced in the first round and Treliving fires Keefe. Then Dubas will hire Keefe before he tells Sully.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 15, 2024 16:46:38 GMT
9. He's played 9 playoff games. And a grand total of just over 80 minutes, or the equivalent of four games by Pastrnak or Marchand. Also zero PPTOI. Also, he isn't the same player he was three years ago when he had his first playoff action; he's increased his scoring every year. Last year, he got hosed for TOI with the rentals, so hard to say he had a fair shot to contribute as a scorer. Has he been good? No. But I don't think it really tells us anything usefu to say he hasn't scored. He's been used sparingly, and his lines have managed to get scored on, but I can't remember if that's because if mistakes he made or if he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Definitely he needs to play a more engaged playoff game this year. They need the good Freddy. Goals, hits, grease. All good points but I basically see a kid who has worked on his overall skills. Seems to have picked up some speed and also appears to be more confident and less afraid to try stuff and be more creative. I do miss his snarl of old but I think he’s rounded his game to be an all around better player. As usual — how that translates to effective playoff hockey remains to be seen I wonder what might have been for Freddy if he hadn't had to fights and play the shit disturber to make the jump from the A. Imagine if he'd been sent to Providence like any first rounder with the expectation that he'd get a chance to play top 6 minutes and PP? He still was over .5 points/game in his second year as a 21 yr old, and he also led the AHL in PIMs that year. Freddy's always had game. Point/game player in college, second on the Badgers both years he played. I think the biggest thing we've started to see from him is maturity rather than what I think has held him back, which was confusion over what his role is on the team and what do people want him to be. Now he's just playing and trying to get better as a player. I think we all wouldn't mind him being more nasty from time to time, but on balance, I like a 40 point guy on the third line more than a 150PiM guy.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 15, 2024 18:25:09 GMT
Freddy has his chance this postseason...here's his chance...I'm fine with that.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 15, 2024 18:26:54 GMT
On Shat's fine...isn't that what we want out of a B? A guy who defends his teammate and doesn't take shit from the opponent. Go #1 PP Shat!!!
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Post by fp8774 on Apr 15, 2024 19:44:45 GMT
All good points but I basically see a kid who has worked on his overall skills. Seems to have picked up some speed and also appears to be more confident and less afraid to try stuff and be more creative. I do miss his snarl of old but I think he’s rounded his game to be an all around better player. As usual — how that translates to effective playoff hockey remains to be seen I wonder what might have been for Freddy if he hadn't had to fights and play the shit disturber to make the jump from the A. Imagine if he'd been sent to Providence like any first rounder with the expectation that he'd get a chance to play top 6 minutes and PP? He still was over .5 points/game in his second year as a 21 yr old, and he also led the AHL in PIMs that year. Freddy's always had game. Point/game player in college, second on the Badgers both years he played. I think the biggest thing we've started to see from him is maturity rather than what I think has held him back, which was confusion over what his role is on the team and what do people want him to be. Now he's just playing and trying to get better as a player. I think we all wouldn't mind him being more nasty from time to time, but on balance, I like a 40 point guy on the third line more than a 150PiM guy. I think he could be a 40 point guy and nasty to play against without a 150 Pims. There’s lots of players over the years who can do both. He needs to play 3rd line with a 4th line mentality by being harder on the forecheck and hitting harder. He could be more effective for the team overall with less points by getting opposing D to look over their shoulder more, getting rid of pucks earlier etc. which creates time and space for other players to score thus offsetting his drop in point production. The team needs to be tougher to play against and he had to bring that aspect of his game on a consistent basis.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 15, 2024 19:48:07 GMT
I wonder what might have been for Freddy if he hadn't had to fights and play the shit disturber to make the jump from the A. Imagine if he'd been sent to Providence like any first rounder with the expectation that he'd get a chance to play top 6 minutes and PP? He still was over .5 points/game in his second year as a 21 yr old, and he also led the AHL in PIMs that year. Freddy's always had game. Point/game player in college, second on the Badgers both years he played. I think the biggest thing we've started to see from him is maturity rather than what I think has held him back, which was confusion over what his role is on the team and what do people want him to be. Now he's just playing and trying to get better as a player. I think we all wouldn't mind him being more nasty from time to time, but on balance, I like a 40 point guy on the third line more than a 150PiM guy. I think he could be a 40 point guy and nasty to play against without a 150 Pims. There’s lots of players over the years who can do both. He needs to play 3rd line with a 4th line mentality by being harder on the forecheck and hitting harder. He could be more effective for the team overall with less points by getting opposing D to look over their shoulder more, getting rid of pucks earlier etc. which creates time and space for other players to score thus offsetting his drop in point production. The team needs to be tougher to play against and he had to bring that aspect of his game on a consistent basis. But is that reasonable for the kind ofngame he plays when he gets points? He's been a centre for a lot of his career. He's good in space and good off the rush. He's not a classic guy who's heavy on the forecheck and then gets his goals in tight, so it might be harder for him to do both
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