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Post by goodnewsbears on Dec 25, 2017 23:22:24 GMT
Rinaldo is a dick. I'm glad he's not a Bruin anymore. So glad he's not a Bruin. Although, if I'm being honest, I don't really see anything wrong with the original hit on MacKinnon. Then Girard comes at him very indecisively, and gets dropped. I think Rinaldo could have looked up and realized that he was throwing a haymaker at a non-fighter, with his gloves on, who wasn't looking. I think he certainly deserved the beatdown from Johnson, and a match penalty, but I'm not sure there's really much for the league to look at here (other than Rinaldo's endless rap sheet). I don’t think the league has a problem with the hit. It’s the punch to the non-fighter with his gloves on. |
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Post by Fletcher on Dec 25, 2017 23:49:40 GMT
So glad he's not a Bruin. Although, if I'm being honest, I don't really see anything wrong with the original hit on MacKinnon. Then Girard comes at him very indecisively, and gets dropped. I think Rinaldo could have looked up and realized that he was throwing a haymaker at a non-fighter, with his gloves on, who wasn't looking. I think he certainly deserved the beatdown from Johnson, and a match penalty, but I'm not sure there's really much for the league to look at here (other than Rinaldo's endless rap sheet). I don’t think the league has a problem with the hit. It’s the punch to the non-fighter with his gloves on. Yes, I agree. A lot of people in Denver are up in arms about the whole sequence though. I thought the hit was fine, and Girard's reaction was actually pretty stupid too. Rinaldo has to assume that if someone comes at him after he's just clobbered their star player, they're coming to hurt him. When Girard goes right after him and then turns away, it's confusing, at best. However, any NHL player (and especially Rinaldo) needs to take that extra split-second to be sure their opponent is looking and has his gloves off before a drives a haymaker into the guy's face. The beating from Johnson was well earned, and I'd expect a suspension from the league too. If not for his rap sheet though, this one really isn't that bad. It reminds me of that Jordin Tootoo scenario, where he hits Modano hard and then sees Stephane Robidas coming at him immediately. He spins and throws a bomb that knocks Robidas out cold before he even engaged him. It's bad, but you can understand being in a pretty jumpy self-defense mode when you've thumped the star player and see his teammates racing at you. Tootoo got 5 games, but on some level you could see where he was coming from. |
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Post by Fletcher on Dec 25, 2017 23:51:41 GMT
Here's the Tootoo play. Very similar in my opinion.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 26, 2017 0:55:38 GMT
I imagine Rinaldo's rap sheet will play heavily into the suspension. If Gudas got 10 games, Zac will likely get the same or more, not that I'm saying he should but he's far from a first time offender. He should know better by now but its obvious he's wired wrong somewhere, functional but has a short.
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Post by bobruins on Dec 26, 2017 4:58:15 GMT
What is wrong is that after a clean hit, players get jumped or challenged and no extra penalty for the player that challenges.........Rinaldo’s hit was clean, then gets cross-checked........ his thinking was that he was being challenged For the hit and he pops the kid..........
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Post by goodnewsbears on Dec 26, 2017 14:24:37 GMT
I don’t think the league has a problem with the hit. It’s the punch to the non-fighter with his gloves on. Yes, I agree. A lot of people in Denver are up in arms about the whole sequence though. I thought the hit was fine, and Girard's reaction was actually pretty stupid too. Rinaldo has to assume that if someone comes at him after he's just clobbered their star player, they're coming to hurt him. When Girard goes right after him and then turns away, it's confusing, at best. However, any NHL player (and especially Rinaldo) needs to take that extra split-second to be sure their opponent is looking and has his gloves off before a drives a haymaker into the guy's face. The beating from Johnson was well earned, and I'd expect a suspension from the league too. If not for his rap sheet though, this one really isn't that bad. It reminds me of that Jordin Tootoo scenario, where he hits Modano hard and then sees Stephane Robidas coming at him immediately. He spins and throws a bomb that knocks Robidas out cold before he even engaged him. It's bad, but you can understand being in a pretty jumpy self-defense mode when you've thumped the star player and see his teammates racing at you. Tootoo got 5 games, but on some level you could see where he was coming from. I think Girard’s initial reaction was to defend his teammate which is why he skated towards Rinaldo. Then, his brain kicked in and he realized getting punched in the face isn’t fun. He then proceeded to skate by and avoid eye contact with Rinaldo. Very strange indeed. |
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Post by Fletcher on Dec 26, 2017 14:47:50 GMT
I imagine Rinaldo's rap sheet will play heavily into the suspension. If Gudas got 10 games, Zac will likely get the same or more, not that I'm saying he should but he's far from a first time offender. He should know better by now but its obvious he's wired wrong somewhere, functional but has a short. I actually think the NHL has gone a little too far with reputations and rap sheets in making their punishments. I generally get it with Rinaldo and Raffi Torres, who have thrown dirty hits so many times, but I also like it when the league treats everyone the same for the most part. The history or rap sheet for a player is supposed to a multiplier in the in the sentencing, not a determination on whether punishment is necessary or not altogether. It can't be a 5 game suspension for Brad Marchand to slash somebody in the nuts when it isn't even a 2-min minor for Crosby to do it. I think they should treat everybody the same, except at the final sentencing where somebody with history gets a little more. I understand that reputation calls happen, but really, as an official, it is your job to block that history out and call the game the same for everyone. |
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 26, 2017 15:08:41 GMT
Crosby is in a whole other world as far as the NHL disciplinary committee is concerned, it doesn’t exist for him at all. I don’t know how to explain it other than he is or was the face of the league and they don’t want it tarnished in any way, shape or form. I agree on how penalties are handed out but it’s hard to equate suspensions when one player never gets called on the carpet for the same offence that other players get anywhere from one game to five. Crosby can never be a repeat offender because in the NHL’s eyes he’s never been an offender, regardless of video to the contrary, baffling.
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Post by kelvana33 on Dec 26, 2017 16:31:28 GMT
I don’t think the league has a problem with the hit. It’s the punch to the non-fighter with his gloves on. Yes, I agree. A lot of people in Denver are up in arms about the whole sequence though. I thought the hit was fine, and Girard's reaction was actually pretty stupid too. Rinaldo has to assume that if someone comes at him after he's just clobbered their star player, they're coming to hurt him. When Girard goes right after him and then turns away, it's confusing, at best. However, any NHL player (and especially Rinaldo) needs to take that extra split-second to be sure their opponent is looking and has his gloves off before a drives a haymaker into the guy's face. The beating from Johnson was well earned, and I'd expect a suspension from the league too. If not for his rap sheet though, this one really isn't that bad. It reminds me of that Jordin Tootoo scenario, where he hits Modano hard and then sees Stephane Robidas coming at him immediately. He spins and throws a bomb that knocks Robidas out cold before he even engaged him. It's bad, but you can understand being in a pretty jumpy self-defense mode when you've thumped the star player and see his teammates racing at you. Tootoo got 5 games, but on some level you could see where he was coming from. Lesson learned by Girard, your going to respond you have to be all in, especially with someone like Rinaldo, so a little of this is on Girard. |
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 27, 2017 13:03:38 GMT
I imagine Rinaldo's rap sheet will play heavily into the suspension. If Gudas got 10 games, Zac will likely get the same or more, not that I'm saying he should but he's far from a first time offender. He should know better by now but its obvious he's wired wrong somewhere, functional but has a short. I actually think the NHL has gone a little too far with reputations and rap sheets in making their punishments. I generally get it with Rinaldo and Raffi Torres, who have thrown dirty hits so many times, but I also like it when the league treats everyone the same for the most part. The history or rap sheet for a player is supposed to a multiplier in the in the sentencing, not a determination on whether punishment is necessary or not altogether. It can't be a 5 game suspension for Brad Marchand to slash somebody in the nuts when it isn't even a 2-min minor for Crosby to do it. I think they should treat everybody the same, except at the final sentencing where somebody with history gets a little more. I understand that reputation calls happen, but really, as an official, it is your job to block that history out and call the game the same for everyone. You can't mix up supplementary discipline with penalties, though. I fully agree that an on ice official has to try to call it the same way for everyone, but once an incident has happened, the some vs none question on fines and suspensions is part of how much a player will get. Crosby aside, you can look at certain incidents and question whether that's something in his game or is it a one-off. I don't mean nut slashing; but hits to the head, maybe. Spooner lays a guy out with a head shot, I might buy a lottery ticket because strange things are happening. Rinaldo does the same thing and I'm thinking this fucker just doesn't get it. |
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 30, 2017 15:21:23 GMT
Gabby's tough!
Wild's Bruce Boudreau OK after taking puck to head
Dec 30
Minnesota Wild coach Bruce Boudreau left the bench with 5:44 left in Minnesota's 4-2 win over the Nashville Predators on Friday night, bleeding after taking a puck to the head.
Assistant coach John Anderson took control for the remainder of the game, and the team said afterward that Boudreau was OK.
Boudreau gave two thumbs up in a tweet from the Wild.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Dec 30, 2017 17:23:14 GMT
 Get well Bruce! |
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Post by 50belowzero on Jan 4, 2018 20:58:10 GMT
Flames Ice Chips: Hamilton refuses to answer questions about his brother
After his brother Freddie was waived by the Flames and claimed by the Coyotes, Dougie Hamilton wouldn't address the situation prior to Thursday's game against the Kings, and repeatedly answered any question about his brother by saying "I'm just here to talk about the game".
Sounds like someones mad.
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Post by sportsnut on Jan 5, 2018 4:35:50 GMT
Al Montoya traded to Edmonton from the Habs. 2-1, 3.77, .863 for a conditional 4th rounder.
The Oil's goaltending has been so bad, I bet PC would take a flyer on Inigo Montoya if he weren't fictional.
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Post by NAS on Jan 5, 2018 13:49:48 GMT
Flames Ice Chips: Hamilton refuses to answer questions about his brotherAfter his brother Freddie was waived by the Flames and claimed by the Coyotes, Dougie Hamilton wouldn't address the situation prior to Thursday's game against the Kings, and repeatedly answered any question about his brother by saying "I'm just here to talk about the game". Sounds like someones mad. A couple of Flames fans I know have said this brother thing is the real deal. They're like best friends, inseparable. Dougie and Freddie. What the fuck. |
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Post by islamorada on Jan 5, 2018 13:56:32 GMT
Flames Ice Chips: Hamilton refuses to answer questions about his brotherAfter his brother Freddie was waived by the Flames and claimed by the Coyotes, Dougie Hamilton wouldn't address the situation prior to Thursday's game against the Kings, and repeatedly answered any question about his brother by saying "I'm just here to talk about the game". Sounds like someones mad. A couple of Flames fans I know have said this brother thing is the real deal. They're like best friends, inseparable. Dougie and Freddie. What the fuck. My brother and I live in the same town as Bs fans. He and I see each other usually to drink a couple and watch the Bs at the local cigar bar. We are friends, that said three hours of his crap is enough. Once a week is enough. If it is true Dougie wants his brother on his team then he hasn't grown up a lot imo. |
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Post by walktheline on Jan 5, 2018 14:37:51 GMT
Doogie and Fweddie need to put on their big boy panties and get over it. It's the NHL. The Flames made a hockey decision rather than one based on some kid's feelings. My respect for Treliving just went up a notch.
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Post by Fletcher on Jan 5, 2018 16:56:13 GMT
Flames Ice Chips: Hamilton refuses to answer questions about his brotherAfter his brother Freddie was waived by the Flames and claimed by the Coyotes, Dougie Hamilton wouldn't address the situation prior to Thursday's game against the Kings, and repeatedly answered any question about his brother by saying "I'm just here to talk about the game". Sounds like someones mad. A couple of Flames fans I know have said this brother thing is the real deal. They're like best friends, inseparable. Dougie and Freddie. What the fuck. I remember hearing about this before, when Freddie was in the Avs' system, and Dougie was traded. The one pesky little detail that has made it hard for them to play on an NHL team together is that Freddie isn't good enough to make an NHL team... |
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Post by RichHillOntario on Jan 9, 2018 3:49:06 GMT
Tonight the home Leafs blew a 2-0 second period lead, watched Columbus score two in the third and the winner in OT.
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Post by 50belowzero on Jan 9, 2018 14:23:24 GMT
Tonight the home Leafs blew a 2-0 second period lead, watched Columbus score two in the third and the winner in OT. 2-0 3rd period lead. Beautiful. |
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Post by alsamarraie on Jan 9, 2018 20:07:52 GMT
Seabrook has been scratched by CHI. Coach Q apparently told him he needs to be better.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jan 10, 2018 0:17:23 GMT
Seabrook has been scratched by CHI. Coach Q apparently told him he needs to be better. Wow 😮 that is big. No sorry bigly! |
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Post by 50belowzero on Jan 10, 2018 1:56:11 GMT
Seabrook has been scratched by CHI. Coach Q apparently told him he needs to be better. Wow 😮 that is big. No sorry bigly! I think he’s signed through 23/24. He better pick it up! PC might take him. |
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Post by kelvana33 on Jan 10, 2018 11:53:32 GMT
Seabrook has been scratched by CHI. Coach Q apparently told him he needs to be better. Chicago responds by putting up an 8 spot on the Sens. |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jan 10, 2018 21:50:50 GMT
"Auston Matthews, Connor McDavid, Brock Boeser, Jack Eichel, and Noah Hanifin will receive $212,500 Schedule 'A' bonuses for being selected to the NHL All-Star game."
That's a lotta blow and hookers.
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