|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 21, 2020 15:58:24 GMT
I’m struggling to articulate this, but I think I would say no, but the injustice of what happened to him should be continued to be used as a reason for change. I agree, but the change you desire? Will not happen. You cannot fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. Do you know the change i desire? |
|
|
|
Post by kelvana33 on Jul 21, 2020 16:04:32 GMT
I agree, but the change you desire? Will not happen. You cannot fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. Do you know the change i desire? You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. |
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 21, 2020 16:26:00 GMT
Do you know the change i desire? You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. 1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. |
|
|
|
Post by badhabitude on Jul 21, 2020 17:07:35 GMT
Help! Police!
Someone has stolen my thread!
Help! Help!
Damn, never a cop around when you need one.
|
|
|
|
Post by badhabitude on Jul 21, 2020 17:10:20 GMT
You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. 1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. re: #5 - particularly when bad cops get fired and just go out and get hired at another police department, there's actually a name for that, forgot what it was. |
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 21, 2020 17:38:49 GMT
1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. re: #5 - particularly when bad cops get fired and just go out and get hired at another police department, there's actually a name for that, forgot what it was. National registry kind of? |
|
|
|
Post by kelvana33 on Jul 21, 2020 17:40:37 GMT
You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. 1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. I'll respond to each one, or add to each one. I personally think your desires are very reasonable, if not plain common sense because the game has changed so much. 1. I want some inner city leaders on this panel. if they're in the loop, rushes to judgement, facts don't get distorted and more trust is built. I'll add to this below. 2. I'm all for body cams. Tons of resistance at first from police unions, until they realized, they actually help us. 3. I understand why people don't like the military look, the vests with all the equipment as opposed to the traditional belt, optics go a long way. I go back and forth on this one. I'm old school, but I get it. Vests are much more comfortable and actually easier to put a body cam on than the one under your shirt. 4. Attract better candidates, here we have the Quinn Bill which is incentive based on education. 5. 4 effects 5. Have to tell you, last 30 or so kids we've hired, all good kids, college educated, well raised, well mannered and impressive resumes, makes me wonder what the heck their doing here, but glad to have them. 6. Positive changes in items above would make for positive changes on other things as we move forward. 7. This is where I add into the first statement. Want to reform police to ensure these things like the George Floyd incident do not occur again? I'm all ears. What changes would people like to see and how can we do them? But, here is where it gets tricky. The black community wants change in regards to how their people are treated. Again, I'm all ears. But, lets not forget, there are two teams in this game. Those inner city leaders I'd like to see on the oversight, I would without hesitancy ask them what is being done on their end to improve things. Plenty to clean up on that end as well, people will not like to hear it, but it's the truth. It's being a realist, not a racist. Lets do a better job of encouraging two parent families, keep those kids in school, get them into sports, and get people working. Lets get some pride into these communities. |
|
|
|
Post by badhabitude on Jul 21, 2020 18:06:53 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by bookboy007 on Jul 21, 2020 20:30:53 GMT
You said you want to read a story about an asshole getting murdered.
I asked if that was the kind of asshole you're referring to.
A feel good thread involves some humor. I'm going to *try* to teach you about a sense of humor, doubt I'll get very far, but I'll try. Time and/or distance makes it funny. Example; Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations. Both men had their wives with them at the time. As in typical marriages, both wives were probably bitching at them. And both men were probably thinking; "I need to hear this shit like I need a hole in the head" and BANG! It can be funny now, but at the time, not so much. at the time. See how that works? Now I want you to think about your behavior as 1 more day has elapsed toward Christmas. Listen to the lessons of the older and wiser BadHab and some day, you will be able to get to the next level in the game of life. The flaw here is that you opened the door to the idea known as “fucker had it coming” where you get to feel good about someone getting murdered. Nope. NAS’s point is super valid in another sense, too - I doubt most of those saints who get killed were saints. But we don’t speak Ill of the dead, so.... |
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 21, 2020 20:48:33 GMT
You said you want to read a story about an asshole getting murdered.
I asked if that was the kind of asshole you're referring to.
A feel good thread involves some humor. I'm going to *try* to teach you about a sense of humor, doubt I'll get very far, but I'll try. Time and/or distance makes it funny. Example; Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations. Both men had their wives with them at the time. As in typical marriages, both wives were probably bitching at them. And both men were probably thinking; "I need to hear this shit like I need a hole in the head" and BANG! It can be funny now, but at the time, not so much. at the time. See how that works? Now I want you to think about your behavior as 1 more day has elapsed toward Christmas. Listen to the lessons of the older and wiser BadHab and some day, you will be able to get to the next level in the game of life. Well done. |
|
|
|
Post by NAS on Jul 21, 2020 22:59:35 GMT
I don't like bad people. I think there are way too many of them in the world, free and incarcerated. Career criminals have no reason to be negatively affecting the lives of good people. I think being alive is a privilege, not a right. You should have to earn it. How do you earn it? Be a good person. If you're not a good person, I am fine with capital punishment or banishment to a one way only island, never to be seen or heard from again.
I don't agree with how he died, but I'm not broken up over his dead. He was a felon and a drug addict. The country and the planet is better off without him.
Feel the same way about his killer? I think the guy who did it, Derek Chavuwhatever, should get 10-20 hard time for negligence.
I don't think he meant to kill the guy. He'd have to be out of his mind to kill a guy in the middle of the street in daylight with people filming it. I think he meant to punish him, to exert his will, and went way too far...too far being the guy died.
|
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 21, 2020 23:19:02 GMT
Feel the same way about his killer? I think the guy who did it, Derek Chavuwhatever, should get 10-20 hard time for negligence.
I don't think he meant to kill the guy. He'd have to be out of his mind to kill a guy in the middle of the street in daylight with people filming it. I think he meant to punish him, to exert his will, and went way too far...too far being the guy died.
1. I just don’t even understand why things about George Floyd are brought up. 2. NEGLIGENCE? Motherfucking NEGLIGENCE? |
|
|
|
Post by shuperman on Jul 21, 2020 23:29:57 GMT
You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. 1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. It's not bad. But I will chime in on all pts as well. 1. 50/50 split is tough. In NS we have Sirt that is made up of lawyers and ex cops. Trust me when I say we eat our own better then anyone. Civilian wise won"t cut it. How can a 50 % panel of people with no experience of a cops daily, weekly, monthly, career give judgement on what they perceive. I don't have issue with suggesting it. I have issue with the outside world pretending they know. I would absolute love to watch a TV series on civilian use of force training. I'd pay to watch it. PS what a great idea for a TV show. 2. Body Cams. Bring it on. Love it. Problem is privacy rules are so fucking hinky. A lot are activating on dispatch. A lot happens on a drive to the call. Complaint name/phone number/address, minors, then at scene you have witnessed who have rights as well. Vetting would be next to impossible. And who is gonna do that? Most times the police do the vetting. Overall, lots and lots of kinks...but I'm all for them. 3. Police budgets are tight. The first thing they cut is training. So counter productive. Social workers attending calls? Zero and I mean zero chance they go without police and no chance they work 24/7. As for schooling and fixing the projects. I have worked in many different project and reserve areas. If you knew the advantages these areas have with education and opportunity it would blow your Sox off. 4. Increase salary? A lot of police forces make peanuts. 5. Hiring practices will be hurt for generations. No way I want my kids doing this. Problem is they decided to hire a bunch of book smart nerds with zero life experience. Let members recruit. They want good partners. 7. No matter what anyone says the police are villafied. Part of the job. Good thought out points by you. Most I like. Some I understand, but experience leads me to believe it wont be easy. Esp when every state in the US seems to play cowboy in a different way. Florida Chief basically telling looters that his citizens love guns and encourages them to use them. Meanwhile Seattle mayor bends over for the movement. |
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 22, 2020 0:05:33 GMT
1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. It's not bad. But I will chime in on all pts as well. 1. 50/50 split is tough. In NS we have Sirt that is made up of lawyers and ex cops. Trust me when I say we eat our own better then anyone. Civilian wise won"t cut it. How can a 50 % panel of people with no experience of a cops daily, weekly, monthly, career give judgement on what they perceive. I don't have issue with suggesting it. I have issue with the outside world pretending they know. I would absolute love to watch a TV series on civilian use of force training. I'd pay to watch it. PS what a great idea for a TV show. 2. Body Cams. Bring it on. Love it. Problem is privacy rules are so fucking hinky. A lot are activating on dispatch. A lot happens on a drive to the call. Complaint name/phone number/address, minors, then at scene you have witnessed who have rights as well. Vetting would be next to impossible. And who is gonna do that? Most times the police do the vetting. Overall, lots and lots of kinks...but I'm all for them. 3. Police budgets are tight. The first thing they cut is training. So counter productive. Social workers attending calls? Zero and I mean zero chance they go without police and no chance they work 24/7. As for schooling and fixing the projects. I have worked in many different project and reserve areas. If you knew the advantages these areas have with education and opportunity it would blow your Sox off. 4. Increase salary? A lot of police forces make peanuts. 5. Hiring practices will be hurt for generations. No way I want my kids doing this. Problem is they decided to hire a bunch of book smart nerds with zero life experience. Let members recruit. They want good partners. 7. No matter what anyone says the police are villafied. Part of the job. Good thought out points by you. Most I like. Some I understand, but experience leads me to believe it wont be easy. Esp when every state in the US seems to play cowboy in a different way. Florida Chief basically telling looters that his citizens love guns and encourages them to use them. Meanwhile Seattle mayor bends over for the movement. None of this will be easy, and I get that budgets are super tight but I do think some changes have to be made, even if some are kind of symbolic. Yes, increased salaries. I do think that the salaries of cops should go up. The job should be more desirable. It sounds kind of odd to say right now, but I think that’s part of the long term solution. I think minorities have to be shown that they’ve been heard, and that things will change. The issue, in my mind, is the generalized anxiety that such a large population when they see law enforcement. I’m not going to debate whether they are right to feel that way, but having grown up always thinking that when I see a cop, it means I’m safe (unless we’re going back to the underage drinking days), it breaks my heart to know that such a large group of people see law enforcement and their first thought is that they might be treated unfairly because of their race. The conversations will be difficult. The solutions will be complicated. But we’ve got to make an effort. Even if someone doesn’t think that it’s needed, let’s just do it. If we do it right it will be unifying. |
|
|
|
Post by kelvana33 on Jul 22, 2020 3:24:26 GMT
It's not bad. But I will chime in on all pts as well. 1. 50/50 split is tough. In NS we have Sirt that is made up of lawyers and ex cops. Trust me when I say we eat our own better then anyone. Civilian wise won"t cut it. How can a 50 % panel of people with no experience of a cops daily, weekly, monthly, career give judgement on what they perceive. I don't have issue with suggesting it. I have issue with the outside world pretending they know. I would absolute love to watch a TV series on civilian use of force training. I'd pay to watch it. PS what a great idea for a TV show. 2. Body Cams. Bring it on. Love it. Problem is privacy rules are so fucking hinky. A lot are activating on dispatch. A lot happens on a drive to the call. Complaint name/phone number/address, minors, then at scene you have witnessed who have rights as well. Vetting would be next to impossible. And who is gonna do that? Most times the police do the vetting. Overall, lots and lots of kinks...but I'm all for them. 3. Police budgets are tight. The first thing they cut is training. So counter productive. Social workers attending calls? Zero and I mean zero chance they go without police and no chance they work 24/7. As for schooling and fixing the projects. I have worked in many different project and reserve areas. If you knew the advantages these areas have with education and opportunity it would blow your Sox off. 4. Increase salary? A lot of police forces make peanuts. 5. Hiring practices will be hurt for generations. No way I want my kids doing this. Problem is they decided to hire a bunch of book smart nerds with zero life experience. Let members recruit. They want good partners. 7. No matter what anyone says the police are villafied. Part of the job. Good thought out points by you. Most I like. Some I understand, but experience leads me to believe it wont be easy. Esp when every state in the US seems to play cowboy in a different way. Florida Chief basically telling looters that his citizens love guns and encourages them to use them. Meanwhile Seattle mayor bends over for the movement. None of this will be easy, and I get that budgets are super tight but I do think some changes have to be made, even if some are kind of symbolic. Yes, increased salaries. I do think that the salaries of cops should go up. The job should be more desirable. It sounds kind of odd to say right now, but I think that’s part of the long term solution. I think minorities have to be shown that they’ve been heard, and that things will change. The issue, in my mind, is the generalized anxiety that such a large population when they see law enforcement. I’m not going to debate whether they are right to feel that way, but having grown up always thinking that when I see a cop, it means I’m safe (unless we’re going back to the underage drinking days), it breaks my heart to know that such a large group of people see law enforcement and their first thought is that they might be treated unfairly because of their race. The conversations will be difficult. The solutions will be complicated. But we’ve got to make an effort. Even if someone doesn’t think that it’s needed, let’s just do it. If we do it right it will be unifying. Well said. Breaks my heart as well when I how some look at us and I can feel it. We are here to serve and protect.....As for those underage drinking parties, nothing better than breaking one up on a Friday night in the summer, those little bastards running away leaving those poor ice cold 30 packs unattended. Feel better knowing they grace my pool area at the end of my shift. |
|
|
|
Post by NAS on Jul 22, 2020 11:25:57 GMT
I think the guy who did it, Derek Chavuwhatever, should get 10-20 hard time for negligence.
I don't think he meant to kill the guy. He'd have to be out of his mind to kill a guy in the middle of the street in daylight with people filming it. I think he meant to punish him, to exert his will, and went way too far...too far being the guy died.
1. I just don’t even understand why things about George Floyd are brought up. 2. NEGLIGENCE? Motherfucking NEGLIGENCE? Negligence is a catch all word. It isn't saying that he didn't kill that guy. It's removing intent. What is that? Manslaughter? Whatever it is, doing 10-20 will get him what he has earned. He probably wouldn't last a week before someone knocked his eye out with a lock in a sock.
It was brought up because BHab said he wanted to see a news story about an asshole being killed. I gave the parameters of an asshole that was recently killed.
|
|
|
|
Post by badhabitude on Jul 22, 2020 13:56:05 GMT
1. I just don’t even understand why things about George Floyd are brought up. 2. NEGLIGENCE? Motherfucking NEGLIGENCE? Negligence is a catch all word. It isn't saying that he didn't kill that guy. It's removing intent. What is that? Manslaughter? Whatever it is, doing 10-20 will get him what he has earned. He probably wouldn't last a week before someone knocked his eye out with a lock in a sock.
It was brought up because BHab said he wanted to see a news story about an asshole being killed. I gave the parameters of an asshole that was recently killed.
I said fun stuff only and no "p word" |
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 22, 2020 14:47:08 GMT
1. I just don’t even understand why things about George Floyd are brought up. 2. NEGLIGENCE? Motherfucking NEGLIGENCE? Negligence is a catch all word. It isn't saying that he didn't kill that guy. It's removing intent. What is that? Manslaughter? Whatever it is, doing 10-20 will get him what he has earned. He probably wouldn't last a week before someone knocked his eye out with a lock in a sock.
It was brought up because BHab said he wanted to see a news story about an asshole being killed. I gave the parameters of an asshole that was recently killed.
Negligence from my understanding implies no malice. There was malice here. What he did is similar to hitting the guy over the head with a baseball bat. You can say you didn’t mean to kill him, but you meant to injure him, and he died. And ya, i think a 10-20 day sentence would be the same as a death sentence. |
|
|
|
Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 22, 2020 17:11:15 GMT
1. I want an oversight committee, made up of a half dozen police chiefs, three house reps from each party, a senator from each party, and a number of community leaders to make the board 50% civilian, and 50% elected official/law enforcement. + the VP. The goal of this commits would be to examine every instance of a police officer using fatal force against a person. Sometimes its going to be a quick e-mail thread because its obvious the officer was correct in using fatal force. The point being that never again will a case just be swept under the rug. It won’t stop it from happening. It won’t necessarily lead to more trials or whatever. But everything gets looked at. 2. Body cams. Always. Silicon Valley can figure this shit out. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. 4. Increase starting salary for police officers. 5. Tighten up hiring practices a bit. 6. A million other things 7. Whatever elected official leads the charge on this bill, get in front of cameras and make it known that this bill isn’t meant to vilify police officers, but to enhance community living, and safety for all Americans. It's not bad. But I will chime in on all pts as well. 1. 50/50 split is tough. In NS we have Sirt that is made up of lawyers and ex cops. Trust me when I say we eat our own better then anyone. Civilian wise won"t cut it. How can a 50 % panel of people with no experience of a cops daily, weekly, monthly, career give judgement on what they perceive. I don't have issue with suggesting it. I have issue with the outside world pretending they know. I would absolute love to watch a TV series on civilian use of force training. I'd pay to watch it. PS what a great idea for a TV show. 2. Body Cams. Bring it on. Love it. Problem is privacy rules are so fucking hinky. A lot are activating on dispatch. A lot happens on a drive to the call. Complaint name/phone number/address, minors, then at scene you have witnessed who have rights as well. Vetting would be next to impossible. And who is gonna do that? Most times the police do the vetting. Overall, lots and lots of kinks...but I'm all for them. 3. Police budgets are tight. The first thing they cut is training. So counter productive. Social workers attending calls? Zero and I mean zero chance they go without police and no chance they work 24/7. As for schooling and fixing the projects. I have worked in many different project and reserve areas. If you knew the advantages these areas have with education and opportunity it would blow your Sox off.
4. Increase salary? A lot of police forces make peanuts. 5. Hiring practices will be hurt for generations. No way I want my kids doing this. Problem is they decided to hire a bunch of book smart nerds with zero life experience. Let members recruit. They want good partners. 7. No matter what anyone says the police are villafied. Part of the job. Good thought out points by you. Most I like. Some I understand, but experience leads me to believe it wont be easy. Esp when every state in the US seems to play cowboy in a different way. Florida Chief basically telling looters that his citizens love guns and encourages them to use them. Meanwhile Seattle mayor bends over for the movement. Can’t believe that communities, in this day n age, have to beg for this the bold. Across the board community members overwhelmingly want both the comments in bold. But nope state legislature’s cut and cut more from the force in the states. And those same state level politicians cry for police protection when there is unrest. Complete madness not ro up the anti on 3 and 4. |
|
|
|
Post by NAS on Jul 22, 2020 19:46:59 GMT
You know what, I don't, but I'd love to hear it. 3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. Military grade gear helps deal with insurgent grade bad guys. What's wrong with having it? Is it too scary looking?
There are over 250 murders each year in Los Angeles. 1,200 calls for shots fired. 8,000 abuse victims.
In 2019, there were almost 8,000 violent crimes. In LA alone.
What's wrong with the guys trying to stop the madness being well prepared?
|
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 22, 2020 19:48:17 GMT
3. Don’t defund, but there needs to be some re-allocation, both long and short term. I don’t see the need for so much military grade equipment. There are going to be some police forces that need more money, but the LAPD could trim some fat, and that money could be used for more social workers, and a larger school budget, as well as various social programs to take a long term approach at improving the standard of living in the areas that seem to have a self fulfilling prophecy of crime, in an effort to stop the crime decades before it takes place. Military grade gear helps deal with insurgent grade bad guys. What's wrong with having it? Is it too scary looking?
There are over 250 murders each year in Los Angeles. 1,200 calls for shots fired. 8,000 abuse victims.
In 2019, there were almost 8,000 violent crimes. In LA alone.
What's wrong with the guys trying to stop the madness being well prepared?
Well prepared for fucking what? |
|
|
|
Post by NAS on Jul 22, 2020 20:13:36 GMT
Military grade gear helps deal with insurgent grade bad guys. What's wrong with having it? Is it too scary looking?
There are over 250 murders each year in Los Angeles. 1,200 calls for shots fired. 8,000 abuse victims.
In 2019, there were almost 8,000 violent crimes. In LA alone.
What's wrong with the guys trying to stop the madness being well prepared?
Well prepared for fucking what?
This guy.
And all the other people who have heavy weapons.
And all of the bad guys.
What's wrong with the police being ready to face rifles firing 5.56 rounds?
Honestly, not joking around, do you think that it's scary looking and therefore they shouldn't have it?
|
|
|
|
Post by bostonfan191646 on Jul 22, 2020 20:36:14 GMT
Well prepared for fucking what?
This guy.
And all the other people who have heavy weapons.
And all of the bad guys.
What's wrong with the police being ready to face rifles firing 5.56 rounds?
Honestly, not joking around, do you think that it's scary looking and therefore they shouldn't have it?
Money. |
|
|
|
Post by kelvana33 on Jul 22, 2020 21:32:57 GMT
This guy.
And all the other people who have heavy weapons.
And all of the bad guys.
What's wrong with the police being ready to face rifles firing 5.56 rounds?
Honestly, not joking around, do you think that it's scary looking and therefore they shouldn't have it?
Money. It costs money too if you send officers into situation and they aren't equipped properly. I'm no drama queen, but Chicago, L.A, NYC and Portland etc..They are war zones right now. Need the riot gear and the hummers. Look at the all the objects thrown at them, and the cruisers burned. If you're sending me in there, I better have the gear and a vehicle and to withstand it. If my weapons aren't as good as theirs, I'm fucked. |
|
|
|
Post by kelvana33 on Jul 22, 2020 21:34:11 GMT
Well prepared for fucking what?
This guy.
And all the other people who have heavy weapons.
And all of the bad guys.
What's wrong with the police being ready to face rifles firing 5.56 rounds?
Honestly, not joking around, do you think that it's scary looking and therefore they shouldn't have it?
Over 60 casings on the ground at a funeral in Chicago. People attending the service were firing back. What a shit show. |
|
