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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 17:55:05 GMT
I got the opportunity to participate several years ago and it's been a fun thing and I think the more the merrier. I'm all for the expansion. I just don't think I would have made the trade with OC had I known expansion was coming and I would be losing both the 1st overall pic and the players I got in return. I'm not trying to stir up anything, but what if the trade could be rescinded?
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:06:19 GMT
Look guys if it's going to be a problem for me to join I'll respectfully bow out. Not a big deal. Piss on that! I set this up for the guys here to have some fun. San is just being San. An expansion draft, I think it can be a fun engaging process. It's a new process for me, but We'll work through it.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:08:06 GMT
Look guys if it's going to be a problem for me to join I'll respectfully bow out. Not a big deal. I'm with sizz, you should have the opportunity to join and we can make it work. Just have to figure out the best way. Exactly!
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:09:35 GMT
I got the opportunity to participate several years ago and it's been a fun thing and I think the more the merrier. I'm all for the expansion. I just don't think I would have made the trade with OC had I known expansion was coming and I would be losing both the 1st overall pic and the players I got in return. OC was worried about the same trade. If this happens, maybe we just undo it? Either way, let's not put the cart before the horse..
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Post by HoneyVag on Jul 23, 2024 18:10:59 GMT
I'm all for the expansion. I just don't think I would have made the trade with OC had I known expansion was coming and I would be losing both the 1st overall pic and the players I got in return. I'm not trying to stir up anything, but what if the trade could be rescinded? I vote yes to expansion, only if we're allowed to protect 8 players. It was suggested that current teams would only be allowed to protect 7. That's too many good players handed to the expansion teams. It's supposed to be difficult for them the first couple of seasons. My vote is to protect 8.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:16:07 GMT
******NOTICE*******
First order of business would be to vote on expansion. You all know that despite OC calling me Putin, you all run this thing, so I'm putting a poll up on the ESPN site to vote on expansion.
I will say this though, incase you didn't read my previous posts, I will strongly advise you vote yes... I started this thing so we can all have some extra fun here... Not including someone who wants to join seems like a purely dick move. Now let's not go pointing any fingers SAN, but let's make the right call here.
I'll keep the poll up for a week.. Hoping that give us all enough time to get a result here.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 18:20:24 GMT
******NOTICE******* First order of business would be to vote on expansion. You all know that despite OC calling me Putin, you all run this thing, so I'm putting a poll up on the ESPN site to vote on expansion. I will say this though, incase you didn't read my previous posts, I will strongly advise you vote yes... I started this thing so we can all have some extra fun here... Not including someone who wants to join seems like a purely dick move. Now let's not go pointing and fingers SAN, but let's make the right call here. I'll keep the poll up for a week.. Hoping that give us all enough time to get a result here. Really, I think the most important thing is...well it's not like we are playing for money...then it's almost an entirely different scenario. But here, it's just find a way to make it work. If it's keep 8 over 9, no big whoop. Love my 9, but if that helps brews get in, then it's worth the sacrifice.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:21:44 GMT
The poll is up.. Please go vote.
I don't think made it too bias...
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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 18:23:58 GMT
I know I'm in the minority on this--but I still think here's an opportunity to completely level the playing field and start from scratch. It would make the draft a lot of fun. But again, I get the love affair for some guys on their own players--look I love Rantanen, Marner, JT Miller...but I like the idea of having a brand new draft and just let everyone have at the talent pool.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 18:47:45 GMT
I know I'm in the minority on this--but I still think here's an opportunity to completely level the playing field and start from scratch. It would make the draft a lot of fun. But again, I get the love affair for some guys on their own players--look I love Rantanen, Marner, JT Miller...but I like the idea of having a brand new draft and just let everyone have at the talent pool. Yeah, that'll never happen. You think it was tough to try to convince OC the snake draft sucks after season 1... Good luck w this...
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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 18:54:59 GMT
I know I'm in the minority on this--but I still think here's an opportunity to completely level the playing field and start from scratch. It would make the draft a lot of fun. But again, I get the love affair for some guys on their own players--look I love Rantanen, Marner, JT Miller...but I like the idea of having a brand new draft and just let everyone have at the talent pool. Yeah, that'll never happen. You think it was tough to try to convince OC the snake draft sucks after season 1... Good luck w this... takes an open mind and being able to make a leap forward.
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Post by HoneyVag on Jul 23, 2024 19:31:29 GMT
Yeah, that'll never happen. You think it was tough to try to convince OC the snake draft sucks after season 1... Good luck w this... takes an open mind and being able to make a leap forward. Go join a redraft league if you wanna start over. As for the snake draft comment, you're kinda being a hypocrite there aren't you? Isn't your argument that fantasy drafts should be just like the NHL drafts and not a snake format? Well if you wanna run your league Bettman, then announce your plans for expansion a couple years in advance instead of 2 months after moves for the upcoming season have already taken place. And by the way, snake drafts are the correct way to do fantasy drafts after year one. Always has been, always will be. Be better commish
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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 19:41:00 GMT
takes an open mind and being able to make a leap forward. Go join a redraft league if you wanna start over. As for the snake draft comment, you're kinda being a hypocrite there aren't you? Isn't your argument that fantasy drafts should be just like the NHL drafts and not a snake format? Well if you wanna run your league Bettman, then announce your plans for expansion a couple years in advance instead of 2 months after moves for the upcoming season have already taken place. And by the way, snake drafts are the correct way to do fantasy drafts after year one. Always has been, always will be. Be better commish l like this league since most everyone is a regular B's board member. Whatever you guys want, then do. I think when someone is trying to join a "Fantasy" league and the wins and losses are purely "Fantasy," then being inflexible is an odd take. If anything, we should all be open to changes. However with that said, trades made with the idea of 9 keepers and the idea that most know who will be in the mix for a top draft pick are affected. I say bring in brew and another if possible or brew takes over for one not invested in the league.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 23, 2024 19:43:09 GMT
I was completely against Honey and Book switching teams...that wasn't a problem to do that for you. I find that if you are going to that length, it's opening up the possibility of change.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 20:20:53 GMT
takes an open mind and being able to make a leap forward. Go join a redraft league if you wanna start over. As for the snake draft comment, you're kinda being a hypocrite there aren't you? Isn't your argument that fantasy drafts should be just like the NHL drafts and not a snake format? Well if you wanna run your league Bettman, then announce your plans for expansion a couple years in advance instead of 2 months after moves for the upcoming season have already taken place. And by the way, snake drafts are the correct way to do fantasy drafts after year one. Always has been, always will be. Be better commish Dude, you think I control when others want to join? Wtf is wrong w you? The snake draft argument is just a running joke at this point... Actual conversation about it is looooong gone.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 23, 2024 22:12:13 GMT
Don't like the extra team idea nor an expansion draft. Just because? I set this up so the boys here could have some fun with it... I don't want to turn any regulars here away. If we just can't for some reason, it is what it is. But if we won't... I don't think that's cool. Wut ? No Perry Ferrell not "just because". I don't want to give up any of my players nor picks. Your the making the decision to put a poll up. So it's not about the "fun of the league" or "for us".
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 23, 2024 23:38:51 GMT
Just because? I set this up so the boys here could have some fun with it... I don't want to turn any regulars here away. If we just can't for some reason, it is what it is. But if we won't... I don't think that's cool. Wut ? No Perry Ferrell not "just because". I don't want to give up any of my players nor picks. Your the making the decision to put a poll up. So it's not about the "fun of the league" or "for us". Nobody wants to give up their players or pics, but that's what an expansion draft is.. And like Danny said, it's not like this is a money league, it's just for fun. And I'm putting up a poll so YOU, the League, has the say, not me, so your logic is 100% wrong. Would you rather I take the poll down and just do what I think is fair and not give a shit what the rest of you think? It should be the more the merrier.. And I'd assume everyone else should see it this way, but I'm still putting up a poll so you all can have a say... I never though anyone would complain about this method of making decisions.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 24, 2024 0:27:55 GMT
takes an open mind and being able to make a leap forward. Go join a redraft league if you wanna start over. As for the snake draft comment, you're kinda being a hypocrite there aren't you? Isn't your argument that fantasy drafts should be just like the NHL drafts and not a snake format? Well if you wanna run your league Bettman, then announce your plans for expansion a couple years in advance instead of 2 months after moves for the upcoming season have already taken place. And by the way, snake drafts are the correct way to do fantasy drafts after year one. Always has been, always will be. Be better commish Totally agree here.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 24, 2024 0:41:56 GMT
Go join a redraft league if you wanna start over. As for the snake draft comment, you're kinda being a hypocrite there aren't you? Isn't your argument that fantasy drafts should be just like the NHL drafts and not a snake format? Well if you wanna run your league Bettman, then announce your plans for expansion a couple years in advance instead of 2 months after moves for the upcoming season have already taken place. And by the way, snake drafts are the correct way to do fantasy drafts after year one. Always has been, always will be. Be better commish Totally agree here. I am addicted to playing Fantasy Hockey, love running a team, love the daily moves, the transactions, the setting up lineups, choosing goalies, the ups and the downs...and with that said, ripping on sizzle and ripping on adding somebody is asinine. sizz is the Commish and he is doing just fine, it's a few team owners who are really inflexible. I'm glad you guys didn't freeze me out when the opening occurred.
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Post by The OC on Jul 24, 2024 1:23:56 GMT
I am addicted to playing Fantasy Hockey, love running a team, love the daily moves, the transactions, the setting up lineups, choosing goalies, the ups and the downs...and with that said, ripping on sizzle and ripping on adding somebody is asinine. sizz is the Commish and he is doing just fine, it's a few team owners who are really inflexible. I'm glad you guys didn't freeze me out when the opening occurred. There aren't a few owners that are inflexible. No one wants a redraft, just let it go.
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Post by The OC on Jul 24, 2024 1:39:00 GMT
I think we're jumping the gun a bit on expansion. I think first order is finding out if everyone wants to play again next year. Do we know this? If someone doesn't want to come back the the topic is closed, Brew takes over the team. If everyone wants to come back, then the question is whether there is a second person that would like a team since we can't just add one player. If there isn't another, again, topic done, Brew waits for someone to quit or another to want to join.
If no one is dropping and 2 want to join, then discuss do we actually want expansion, and if so what is the format and the timing. It's probably better to give everyone more notice so they can build their teams appropriately knowing they'll lose an extra player or two or whatever. I remember we talked about expansion before and I was on the fence, kinda leaning in favor of it. I think 2 more teams would mean waivers were less of an option for building a team and encourage more trades. The flip side being it would be harder to improve your team if it wasn't good. Right now you can hit some gems on waivers by taking lots of chances if you are at the bottom of the standings. Gets harder if another 40+ players are on two more teams.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 24, 2024 12:10:47 GMT
I am addicted to playing Fantasy Hockey, love running a team, love the daily moves, the transactions, the setting up lineups, choosing goalies, the ups and the downs...and with that said, ripping on sizzle and ripping on adding somebody is asinine. sizz is the Commish and he is doing just fine, it's a few team owners who are really inflexible. I'm glad you guys didn't freeze me out when the opening occurred. You'll have less players to pick off of waivers with an extra team.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 24, 2024 13:06:21 GMT
maybe an owner will pass the baton to brew then..
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 24, 2024 14:50:42 GMT
I think we're jumping the gun a bit on expansion. I think first order is finding out if everyone wants to play again next year. Do we know this? If someone doesn't want to come back the the topic is closed, Brew takes over the team. If everyone wants to come back, then the question is whether there is a second person that would like a team since we can't just add one player. If there isn't another, again, topic done, Brew waits for someone to quit or another to want to join. If no one is dropping and 2 want to join, then discuss do we actually want expansion, and if so what is the format and the timing. It's probably better to give everyone more notice so they can build their teams appropriately knowing they'll lose an extra player or two or whatever. I remember we talked about expansion before and I was on the fence, kinda leaning in favor of it. I think 2 more teams would mean waivers were less of an option for building a team and encourage more trades. The flip side being it would be harder to improve your team if it wasn't good. Right now you can hit some gems on waivers by taking lots of chances if you are at the bottom of the standings. Gets harder if another 40+ players are on two more teams. I agree with what you are saying, but I'm not sure you realize that some things are out of my/our control. Yes, we talked about expansion before, and I got no responses, so end of story. This is different... Brewwins came to me/us. Telling him, yes you can join, but it will need to be in 2027 because some teams need a few years notice to prepare. That's flat out ridiculous... This is just fantasy hockey for bragging right here only. I started getting the ball rolling as soon as I could. I/we have mentioned that's "assuming" everyone comes back and the post of someone stepping down is already there. Everyone has been here for many years and the draft has been full, unlikely someone wants out at this point, but I sent an email to everyone saying to come participate.. Not sure what more I can do.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 24, 2024 14:54:05 GMT
I am addicted to playing Fantasy Hockey, love running a team, love the daily moves, the transactions, the setting up lineups, choosing goalies, the ups and the downs...and with that said, ripping on sizzle and ripping on adding somebody is asinine. sizz is the Commish and he is doing just fine, it's a few team owners who are really inflexible. I'm glad you guys didn't freeze me out when the opening occurred. You'll have less players to pick off of waivers with an extra team. No.. We... We will have less players to pick from. We are all in the same boat. So you know what.. Pay attention more to who is on a streak and try to adjust better than your opponent. We've all got the same rules.
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