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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 19, 2024 15:42:57 GMT
Sitting back and taking in Flames vs Leafs and Rags vs Vegas. Scabs already smoked by Sens sens also beat on them dropping the gloves All the talk this morning was about Gallagher trying to get Stutzle to drop the gloves and Stutzle basically pointing at the scoreboard and saying dude, why would I bother?
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Post by islamorada on Jan 19, 2024 15:53:11 GMT
I read that Wotherspoon would need to pass through waivers to be sent down whereas Lohrei wouldn't need to. For that reason I think Mason might get sent down so he can get top pairing ice time. Not great for his development to be watching from upstairs. I completely agree with you though. Lohrei has been great. I'm as impressed by him as I was with C Mac when he first arrived. Seems like the Bruins should have a strong top 4 for the next 5 to 10 years. For all of the shit Sweeney took about his poor drafting I must admit that he's had a number of great picks as well. Top Ten Sweener Pigs. 1. McAvoy. Getting a D who will be in the Norris conversation for a decade or more is nice work. Getting him in the middle of the first round is some solid gold worthy of Marilyn McCoo. 2. Swayman. Kid may be a franchise goalie. In the 4th round. 3. Brando. The way the league is going, big, shut down D who can really move are almost the rarest of commodities. Carlo is one of the best in the league in his own zone. He was the anti-Seny in that he was a first rounder in a lot of people's eyes but he dropped to the Bruins in the second. 4. JDB - controversy! For all the reasons to hate the pick, JDB as a player has the 11th most goals in his draft class and is 17th in points despite a career threatening suck fest. And that is some class. Better than 25% of the current top 27 scorers were in that class. Consistently a .60 points per game player and 20+ goal scorer. 5. T freddy. Third on the team in ES points. Over .50 points/game for the first time in his career. Second in the team in plus-minus. Leads the team in fighting majors. We've had to wait a long time it aeems but the kid is just about at the equivalent of three seasons in terms of games played. He's just 25. 6. Lohrei. End of the second round. Looks like a win on a lottery ticket pick. Long way to go and he could rise or fall but for now he looks like an awesome find. FWIW, three years later, there's no guy they passed in I would rather have from that draft, and frankly I like him better than almost any guy picked in that second round. 7. Pooter. End of round two again. Unexpectedly forcing his way into the NHL. Long way to go but to find a scoring forward who could well be an answer to the need fir C where they found him makes this even better. 8. Uh-oh Vaakavowels. He is becoming what the Bruins wanted. Tied with Radko for best plus minus on the lousy quacks. Not a scorer but solid D. Almost like Finnish for Brando. 9. Lauzon. Another solid D but this time with some nasty to him. 10. Fabio. Slower to arrive than we might have liked but he skills are there. Of all these picks this is the only one that is purely on spec, so if you orefer you could have Lauko here - the kid's a Wyld Stallion and could be a great 3/4 line player if he can play with that energy all the time. One could use this list to be against an argument to trade any more draft picks including this year.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 19, 2024 15:54:55 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I really do think that the way Pastrnak played that game - especially the start - was driven in part by winning a head to head with Nate-Dog. He went into the game trailing MacKinnon by 11 points and dropped it down to 9, and he's now 3rd in goals behind Matthews and Reinhart. MacKinnon finished the game with 6 shots and a -1; Pastrnak 8 shots and a +1. And as much as he loves to score goals, I don't think I've ever seen him or his teammates want an ENG for the trick as much as last night. I think maybe Pastrnak wants people to stop overlooking him when they talk about the Hart. Everyone loves MacKinnon for good reason. Everyone talks about Kooch as the guy who maybe doesn't get enough attention because we just expect him to be so good. Everyone talks about how McDavid could still make this a no-brainer with half a season to go. Everyone talks about Matthews maybe scoring 70 goals this year. And there's a lot of talk about how the Jets' success might make you think that Hellabucyk should get some Hart love. Pastrnak is generally an afterthought even though the Bruins dropped half a goal per game year over year because of the retirements and other challenges to manage the Cap like ditching Hall, meaning he's not "protected" in the Bruins lineup the way MacKinnon is by Rantanen or McDavid by Draisaitl. Spicy Pasta when his competitive ego is engaged.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 19, 2024 15:58:07 GMT
Top Ten Sweener Pigs. 1. McAvoy. Getting a D who will be in the Norris conversation for a decade or more is nice work. Getting him in the middle of the first round is some solid gold worthy of Marilyn McCoo. 2. Swayman. Kid may be a franchise goalie. In the 4th round. 3. Brando. The way the league is going, big, shut down D who can really move are almost the rarest of commodities. Carlo is one of the best in the league in his own zone. He was the anti-Seny in that he was a first rounder in a lot of people's eyes but he dropped to the Bruins in the second. 4. JDB - controversy! For all the reasons to hate the pick, JDB as a player has the 11th most goals in his draft class and is 17th in points despite a career threatening suck fest. And that is some class. Better than 25% of the current top 27 scorers were in that class. Consistently a .60 points per game player and 20+ goal scorer. 5. T freddy. Third on the team in ES points. Over .50 points/game for the first time in his career. Second in the team in plus-minus. Leads the team in fighting majors. We've had to wait a long time it aeems but the kid is just about at the equivalent of three seasons in terms of games played. He's just 25. 6. Lohrei. End of the second round. Looks like a win on a lottery ticket pick. Long way to go and he could rise or fall but for now he looks like an awesome find. FWIW, three years later, there's no guy they passed in I would rather have from that draft, and frankly I like him better than almost any guy picked in that second round. 7. Pooter. End of round two again. Unexpectedly forcing his way into the NHL. Long way to go but to find a scoring forward who could well be an answer to the need fir C where they found him makes this even better. 8. Uh-oh Vaakavowels. He is becoming what the Bruins wanted. Tied with Radko for best plus minus on the lousy quacks. Not a scorer but solid D. Almost like Finnish for Brando. 9. Lauzon. Another solid D but this time with some nasty to him. 10. Fabio. Slower to arrive than we might have liked but he skills are there. Of all these picks this is the only one that is purely on spec, so if you orefer you could have Lauko here - the kid's a Wyld Stallion and could be a great 3/4 line player if he can play with that energy all the time. One could use this list to be against an argument to trade any more draft picks including this year. Ha! Yep, or you could even go as far as to say the old "trade a second rounder" strategy that used to be such a norm should be scrapped for good. The idea that a second rounder was expendable for a good rental seemed to have long legs. But on this list, and adding Lindgren, about half of those picks are 2s and even late 2s. Carlo, Lauzon, Lindgren, Pooter and Lohrei.
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Post by dannycater on Jan 19, 2024 16:00:13 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I really do think that the way Pastrnak played that game - especially the start - was driven in part by winning a head to head with Nate-Dog. He went into the game trailing MacKinnon by 11 points and dropped it down to 9, and he's now 3rd in goals behind Matthews and Reinhart. MacKinnon finished the game with 6 shots and a -1; Pastrnak 8 shots and a +1. And as much as he loves to score goals, I don't think I've ever seen him or his teammates want an ENG for the trick as much as last night. I think maybe Pastrnak wants people to stop overlooking him when they talk about the Hart. Everyone loves MacKinnon for good reason. Everyone talks about Kooch as the guy who maybe doesn't get enough attention because we just expect him to be so good. Everyone talks about how McDavid could still make this a no-brainer with half a season to go. Everyone talks about Matthews maybe scoring 70 goals this year. And there's a lot of talk about how the Jets' success might make you think that Hellabucyk should get some Hart love. Pastrnak is generally an afterthought even though the Bruins dropped half a goal per game year over year because of the retirements and other challenges to manage the Cap like ditching Hall, meaning he's not "protected" in the Bruins lineup the way MacKinnon is by Rantanen or McDavid by Draisaitl. Spicy Pasta when his competitive ego is engaged. I said in the musings daily thread but Pasta's absence in all the NHL pundits talk about MVP is completely mystifying. He is the only player who has such a distinct separation as an offensive player on his team and his team is #1 in NHL standings...23-points ahead of Marchand...Without 88, this team is not where it is...you can say goalies, defense, system, PK, PP, etc...all of it comes down to having enough offense to win...and 88 has carried that load and relishes that load. He is the MVP to me.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 19, 2024 18:22:21 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I really do think that the way Pastrnak played that game - especially the start - was driven in part by winning a head to head with Nate-Dog. He went into the game trailing MacKinnon by 11 points and dropped it down to 9, and he's now 3rd in goals behind Matthews and Reinhart. MacKinnon finished the game with 6 shots and a -1; Pastrnak 8 shots and a +1. And as much as he loves to score goals, I don't think I've ever seen him or his teammates want an ENG for the trick as much as last night. I think maybe Pastrnak wants people to stop overlooking him when they talk about the Hart. Everyone loves MacKinnon for good reason. Everyone talks about Kooch as the guy who maybe doesn't get enough attention because we just expect him to be so good. Everyone talks about how McDavid could still make this a no-brainer with half a season to go. Everyone talks about Matthews maybe scoring 70 goals this year. And there's a lot of talk about how the Jets' success might make you think that Hellabucyk should get some Hart love. Pastrnak is generally an afterthought even though the Bruins dropped half a goal per game year over year because of the retirements and other challenges to manage the Cap like ditching Hall, meaning he's not "protected" in the Bruins lineup the way MacKinnon is by Rantanen or McDavid by Draisaitl. Spicy Pasta when his competitive ego is engaged. I said in the musings daily thread but Pasta's absence in all the NHL pundits talk about MVP is completely mystifying. He is the only player who has such a distinct separation as an offensive player on his team and his team is #1 in NHL standings...23-points ahead of Marchand...Without 88, this team is not where it is...you can say goalies, defense, system, PK, PP, etc... all of it comes down to having enough offense to win...and 88 has carried that load and relishes that load. He is the MVP to me. I think there's a lot bound up in that phrasing. Some people will read that bold and read "all of it comes down to [...] offense [...]. And I would bet that a lot of those people wouldn't vote for Pastrnak because if it's just a proxy for the Richard and Art Ross, then they'll vote for Matthews because he's on a pace no one has kept up for 30 years or they'll vote for the Kooch because all he does is score, or they'll vote for McDavid because he'll have a 2 point/game average for the last 3 months. Whereas Pastrnak will be top 5 in goals and in points and 40 points ahead of any other Bruin, and his team will at least start the playoffs with home ice advantage where one of Matthews or the Kooch will be watching from the 19th green, McDavid might have to go to Vegas in round one, etc.. Others will read it as a definition of the player and say exactly, and that's why a guy like Pastrnak shouldn't win it because he's ALL offense. He's a winger. He's insulated by playing with centres who can be his defensive conscience, so he can freelance. But when you look at the Bruins roster, they have a lot of players who are able to contribute offensively, but they also play to bring that bar for how much offense you need to win a lot lower than it could be. And you can have a roster that plays that way if you have a secret weapon who scores as well as anyone in the league and who doesn't need "someone to play with" to be impactful. Remember when his linemates were Lucic and Spooner? He single-handedly gives the Bruins enough offense that they don't need to take risks or open up their system to create more chances. His effectiveness without a playmaking C to feed him is so good it helps them manage the cap. That makes him incredibly valuable. I think he's a total flake and he drives me nuts when he's sort of checked out because he's not challenged the way playing against MacKinnon seemed to challenge him. Need to tap that for the playoffs, because he needs to fight through the extra attention he gets 5 on 5. His playoff scoring since the 2019 run is basically 50/50 ES/PP - tipping to +1 on the PP. The year before that, when he had a massive 13 point series against the Laffs and a 4 assist first game against the Bolts, he did it with just 4 of 17 points on the PP. Bruins lost that Tampa series in part because he only had one more ES point in games 2-5 of the series. Think that was partly an injury, wasn't it? But I digress - he deserves more Hart consideration and if he plays like he played last night in the playoffs, I really like the Bruins chances.
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Post by Fletcher on Jan 19, 2024 22:22:48 GMT
Pasta has gotten so much stronger on pucks and cycling than he used to be, and his passing has improved too. He's a lot easier to play with. The knock might be the wide gap between his best nights and his worst nights. As evidenced by playing the Avalanche in Colorado 10 days ago vs playing them in Boston last night. A totally different player.
But yeah, having a legit shot at a 60-60 season while leading a top-of-the-league team oughta have you in the MVP hunt.
As noted above, the Avs do seem to have a softness about them, but I also think that when (if) you add Landeskog, Byram, Lehkonen, and Nichushkin back into that lineup -- they're a whole lot different. Those are key cogs.
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Post by dannycater on Jan 19, 2024 22:37:19 GMT
He has 19 even strength goals, which would still tie him for the club lead with anyone else (Marchie).
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jan 19, 2024 22:50:40 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I really do think that the way Pastrnak played that game - especially the start - was driven in part by winning a head to head with Nate-Dog. He went into the game trailing MacKinnon by 11 points and dropped it down to 9, and he's now 3rd in goals behind Matthews and Reinhart. MacKinnon finished the game with 6 shots and a -1; Pastrnak 8 shots and a +1. And as much as he loves to score goals, I don't think I've ever seen him or his teammates want an ENG for the trick as much as last night. I think maybe Pastrnak wants people to stop overlooking him when they talk about the Hart. Everyone loves MacKinnon for good reason. Everyone talks about Kooch as the guy who maybe doesn't get enough attention because we just expect him to be so good. Everyone talks about how McDavid could still make this a no-brainer with half a season to go. Everyone talks about Matthews maybe scoring 70 goals this year. And there's a lot of talk about how the Jets' success might make you think that Hellabucyk should get some Hart love. Pastrnak is generally an afterthought even though the Bruins dropped half a goal per game year over year because of the retirements and other challenges to manage the Cap like ditching Hall, meaning he's not "protected" in the Bruins lineup the way MacKinnon is by Rantanen or McDavid by Draisaitl. Spicy Pasta when his competitive ego is engaged. I said in the musings daily thread but Pasta's absence in all the NHL pundits talk about MVP is completely mystifying. He is the only player who has such a distinct separation as an offensive player on his team and his team is #1 in NHL standings...23-points ahead of Marchand...Without 88, this team is not where it is...you can say goalies, defense, system, PK, PP, etc...all of it comes down to having enough offense to win...and 88 has carried that load and relishes that load. He is the MVP to me. Great observation Danny…. The only other player with a higher point separation from another teammate is Kucherov with a +28…. At this point Pasta should be the leading candidate as league MVP and, like you stated, the B’S would be in dire straits without his offense….
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Post by 50belowzero on Jan 19, 2024 23:56:50 GMT
I said in the musings daily thread but Pasta's absence in all the NHL pundits talk about MVP is completely mystifying. He is the only player who has such a distinct separation as an offensive player on his team and his team is #1 in NHL standings...23-points ahead of Marchand...Without 88, this team is not where it is...you can say goalies, defense, system, PK, PP, etc...all of it comes down to having enough offense to win...and 88 has carried that load and relishes that load. He is the MVP to me. Great observation Danny…. The only other player with a higher point separation from another teammate is Kucherov with a +28…. At this point Pasta should be the leading candidate as league MVP and, like you stated, the B’S would be in dire straits without his offense…. Trouble is the Canadian media push the narrative unfortunately. That's why Nostrils is touted as a Hart favorite, like really??!! He leads the most underachieving bunch of losers this side of the Washington Generals, pathetic, only in Canada.
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