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Post by davinator on Apr 21, 2024 3:39:28 GMT
It was second intermission when they showed the crowd at whatever they call the Square. I'm think the land of broken dreams? The entrance criteria is to have a high level of delusion. Check your logic and reality at the door.
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Post by pastamon on Apr 21, 2024 3:39:58 GMT
Friedman just said he'd start Swayman again in Game Two and leave Ullmark to Game Three. He was prepared and seemed to know where they were going to shoot. Sway has a .963 save percent against the loafers in 4 games this season, it won't bother me to see Sway for game 2.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 21, 2024 3:41:47 GMT
poor neelycam
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Post by dannycater on Apr 21, 2024 3:42:16 GMT
Bussi was emergency callup...maybe 35 is hurt. Looked awkward in that last game.
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 3:56:21 GMT
I hope he's not. This is the playoffs. You go with your hot goaltender. And 35 saves on 36 shots - that's the definition of a hot goaltender. Stay with Sway, as long as he's hot.
"Never change a winning team" - even if that means that Graesslich will be in the lineup for game 2. It'll be interesting to see who gets the nod. Do you do the traditional thing and go back to Sway because he had a good game.. Did Sway have a good game largely in part because he was fresh? Do you trust the rotation that has produced a vezina winner and another vezina contender? And if you ditch the highly effective rotation, how long before you rust the guy on the bench? Ultimately I think what may play a large part will be the teams play in front. The B's were sharp and Sway followed suit. I highly doubt game 2 will be as decisive as tonight. Whoever starts Monday will have to be ready to be busier than tonight. "The rotation" (as in "rotating goalies") didn't produce a Vezina winner and another Vezina contender. It's the goalies themselves when they played plus the B's d that produced that. You need to get that "bear hug" thing out of your mind.
Why sit a goalie who had a great game? As Barry Pederson just said, Swayman has definitely earned the opportunity to start game 2.
Just imagine Ullmark starting game 2 and stinking up the joint. Everybody and his brother would come after Montgomery for answers then.
(And btw, I have no idea why Montgomery had to say "I think Grz was very good for us". Well, I have an idea why - he probably knows Grz' father and brother...)
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 21, 2024 12:40:12 GMT
Friedman just said he'd start Swayman again in Game Two and leave Ullmark to Game Three. He was prepared and seemed to know where they were going to shoot. If Monty needs advice he already has Goalie Bob to turn to…. Idiotte Friedman should stick to whatever it is he does….
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Post by Fletcher on Apr 21, 2024 13:07:11 GMT
I really enjoyed how directly certain Leaf players led to Bruin goals. Keefe sends Reaves out 2 minutes in, to land some big hits, I guess, and he ends up hitting his own player and springing a 2-on-1 that Beecher finishes. That's the risk with Reavo. Then seeing Domi's incredibly low IQ catch up with him in the most predictable way before the Debrusk goal, felt so right and just. Nylander and Matthews playing terrible defense. Just perfect.
I'm sure they'll be fixing some things and coming out stronger/smarter next game, but it just couldn't have been a better start.
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Post by 50belowzero on Apr 21, 2024 13:19:30 GMT
I really enjoyed how directly certain Leaf players led to Bruin goals. Keefe sends Reaves out 2 minutes in, to land some big hits, I guess, and he ends up hitting his own player and springing a 2-on-1 that Beecher finishes. That's the risk with Reavo. Then seeing Domi's incredibly low IQ catch up with him in the most predictable way before the Debrusk goal, felt so right and just. Nylander and Matthews playing terrible defense. Just perfect. I'm sure they'll be fixing some things and coming out stronger/smarter next game, but it just couldn't have been a better start. Domi has been on about 5 teams already for a reason, he's not a smart hockey player. He also seems to think he's tough like his Dad at times which he isn't, but he did get his smarts from his Dad no question.
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Post by 50belowzero on Apr 21, 2024 13:20:26 GMT
Friedman just said he'd start Swayman again in Game Two and leave Ullmark to Game Three. He was prepared and seemed to know where they were going to shoot. If Monty needs advice he already has Goalie Bob to turn to…. Idiotte Friedman should stick to whatever it is he does…. TO media is already saying they expect Swayman starting game #2, after his performance in the opener it's hard to argue.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 21, 2024 14:04:02 GMT
If Monty needs advice he already has Goalie Bob to turn to…. Idiotte Friedman should stick to whatever it is he does…. TO media is already saying they expect Swayman starting game #2, after his performance in the opener it's hard to argue. Unless injuries show up I think Monty has some kind of platoon system in mind….
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 21, 2024 14:15:18 GMT
It'll be interesting to see who gets the nod. Do you do the traditional thing and go back to Sway because he had a good game.. Did Sway have a good game largely in part because he was fresh? Do you trust the rotation that has produced a vezina winner and another vezina contender? And if you ditch the highly effective rotation, how long before you rust the guy on the bench? Ultimately I think what may play a large part will be the teams play in front. The B's were sharp and Sway followed suit. I highly doubt game 2 will be as decisive as tonight. Whoever starts Monday will have to be ready to be busier than tonight. "The rotation" (as in "rotating goalies") didn't produce a Vezina winner and another Vezina contender. It's the goalies themselves when they played plus the B's d that produced that. You need to get that "bear hug" thing out of your mind.
Why sit a goalie who had a great game? As Barry Pederson just said, Swayman has definitely earned the opportunity to start game 2.
Just imagine Ullmark starting game 2 and stinking up the joint. Everybody and his brother would come after Montgomery for answers then.
(And btw, I have no idea why Montgomery had to say "I think Grz was very good for us". Well, I have an idea why - he probably knows Grz' father and brother...)I dissagree. The 50/50 rotation has given both goalies the ability to stay fresh and play to the best of their abilities. Every goalie has a sweet spot for number of games and frequency. Neither has had a straight up full workload aside from Linus last year and we see how that ended up. Sway has definitely played well enough to get the next start, I agree with that. But Linus has played well enough to deserve a start.. He's last years vezina winner ffs. And what if they start sway and he sucks... Now you've killed the momentum and advantage he had and now TO thinks they solved him and his run is over. I would say trust the system that is undoubtedly successful. Imagine a long playoff run, say right up to game 7 of the scf where your top goalie is fresh physically and mentally, not tired not fatigued and at the top of his game... That's a big.. HUGE advantage. Also, the B's CHOSE to keep both... So fucking use them! That's THEIR gameplan. How fucking stupid was it to have/keep 2 legit number one guys just to completely lose the value of one when it matters the most. Again, trust the system.. Neither Sway or Linus has been a "back to back" style goalie. Don't sit one for too long, don't play one for too long... They have found the recipe for for that exact system and it's worked... But who knows.. This is just my opinion... Lots are split on this... Just don't fuck it up AGAIN B's!!!
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 14:49:29 GMT
"The rotation" (as in "rotating goalies") didn't produce a Vezina winner and another Vezina contender. It's the goalies themselves when they played plus the B's d that produced that. You need to get that "bear hug" thing out of your mind.
Why sit a goalie who had a great game? As Barry Pederson just said, Swayman has definitely earned the opportunity to start game 2.
Just imagine Ullmark starting game 2 and stinking up the joint. Everybody and his brother would come after Montgomery for answers then.
(And btw, I have no idea why Montgomery had to say "I think Grz was very good for us". Well, I have an idea why - he probably knows Grz' father and brother...) I dissagree. The 50/50 rotation has given both goalies the ability to stay fresh and play to the best of their abilities. Every goalie has a sweet spot for number of games and frequency. Neither has had a straight up full workload aside from Linus last year and we see how that ended up. Sway has definitely played well enough to get the next start, I agree with that. But Linus has played well enough to deserve a start.. He's last years vezina winner ffs. And what if they start sway and he sucks... Now you've killed the momentum and advantage he had and now TO thinks they solved him and his run is over. I would say trust the system that is undoubtedly successful. Imagine a long playoff run, say right up to game 7 of the scf where your top goalie is fresh physically and mentally, not tired not fatigued and at the top of his game... That's a big.. HUGE advantage. Also, the B's CHOSE to keep both... So fucking use them! That's THEIR gameplan. How fucking stupid was it to have/keep 2 legit number one guys just to completely lose the value of one when it matters the most. Again, trust the system.. Neither Sway or Linus has been a "back to back" style goalie. Don't sit one for too long, don't play one for too long... They have found the recipe for for that exact system and it's worked... But who knows.. This is just my opinion... Lots are split on this... Just don't fuck it up AGAIN B's!!! I'm sorry, but for the umpteenth time: It's the playoffs. You don't mess around with the lineup if it's not necessary. And you go with your hot goalie.
All you posted is regular season stuff. Kids who want to play hockey in North America always dream about the playoffs, not the regular season.
If a goalie is not "fresh physically and mentally" after playing only two games in six days and having another day off, he has absolutely no business being an NHL goalie. And you don't sit a goalie who just had a great game - unless he's injured (like Ullmark was last year, and Montgomery should have benched him after his catastrophic blunder in OT in game 5).
I don't give a flying f... who won the Vezina last year. Jim Carey won the Vezina one year, then turned into the worst sieve ever virtually overnight - and then the Bruins traded for him...
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 21, 2024 15:12:02 GMT
I really enjoyed how directly certain Leaf players led to Bruin goals. Keefe sends Reaves out 2 minutes in, to land some big hits, I guess, and he ends up hitting his own player and springing a 2-on-1 that Beecher finishes. That's the risk with Reavo. Then seeing Domi's incredibly low IQ catch up with him in the most predictable way before the Debrusk goal, felt so right and just. Nylander and Matthews playing terrible defense. Just perfect. I'm sure they'll be fixing some things and coming out stronger/smarter next game, but it just couldn't have been a better start. Domi has been on about 5 teams already for a reason, he's not a smart hockey player. He also seems to think he's tough like his Dad at times which he isn't, but he did get his smarts from his Dad no question. I'm hoping somebody makes him pay before this is over.
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 21, 2024 15:13:39 GMT
I dissagree. The 50/50 rotation has given both goalies the ability to stay fresh and play to the best of their abilities. Every goalie has a sweet spot for number of games and frequency. Neither has had a straight up full workload aside from Linus last year and we see how that ended up. Sway has definitely played well enough to get the next start, I agree with that. But Linus has played well enough to deserve a start.. He's last years vezina winner ffs. And what if they start sway and he sucks... Now you've killed the momentum and advantage he had and now TO thinks they solved him and his run is over. I would say trust the system that is undoubtedly successful. Imagine a long playoff run, say right up to game 7 of the scf where your top goalie is fresh physically and mentally, not tired not fatigued and at the top of his game... That's a big.. HUGE advantage. Also, the B's CHOSE to keep both... So fucking use them! That's THEIR gameplan. How fucking stupid was it to have/keep 2 legit number one guys just to completely lose the value of one when it matters the most. Again, trust the system.. Neither Sway or Linus has been a "back to back" style goalie. Don't sit one for too long, don't play one for too long... They have found the recipe for for that exact system and it's worked... But who knows.. This is just my opinion... Lots are split on this... Just don't fuck it up AGAIN B's!!! I'm sorry, but for the umpteenth time: It's the playoffs. You don't mess around with the lineup if it's not necessary. And you go with your hot goalie.
All you posted is regular season stuff. Kids who want to play hockey in North America always dream about the playoffs, not the regular season.
If a goalie is not "fresh physically and mentally" after playing only two games in six days and having another day off, he has absolutely no business being an NHL goalie. And you don't sit a goalie who just had a great game - unless he's injured (like Ullmark was last year, and Montgomery should have benched him after his catastrophic blunder in OT in game 5).
I don't give a flying f... who won the Vezina last year. Jim Carey won the Vezina one year, then turned into the worst sieve ever virtually overnight - and then the Bruins traded for him...
How'd that theory work out last year? And just because you used the word umpteenth doesn't mean you'll change my mind... At least we are hearing much more from management about using a rotation this year. They know they fucked it up last year. Learn from your mistakes. I guess we will see what the guys smarter than us will decide... Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 15:16:27 GMT
...Jim Carey won the Vezina one year, then turned into the worst sieve ever virtually overnight - and then the Bruins traded for him... Steve Mason was a Vezina finalist in 2009 (he won the Calder that year, and TT won the Vezina) - anybody even remember him? Or Hoda Kotb Braden "Vidal Sassoon" Holtby, who won the Vezina in '16? (I guess men who still have some hair may remember him for constantly watering his mane, but not for much else...)
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 15:21:51 GMT
I'm sorry, but for the umpteenth time: It's the playoffs. You don't mess around with the lineup if it's not necessary. And you go with your hot goalie.
All you posted is regular season stuff. Kids who want to play hockey in North America always dream about the playoffs, not the regular season.
If a goalie is not "fresh physically and mentally" after playing only two games in six days and having another day off, he has absolutely no business being an NHL goalie. And you don't sit a goalie who just had a great game - unless he's injured (like Ullmark was last year, and Montgomery should have benched him after his catastrophic blunder in OT in game 5).
I don't give a flying f... who won the Vezina last year. Jim Carey won the Vezina one year, then turned into the worst sieve ever virtually overnight - and then the Bruins traded for him...
How'd that theory work out last year? I give up. You're right. And dozens of professional NHL coaches are wrong, and have been wrong for decades. Why don't we create a petition to have Montgomery rotate them every period? Or maybe after each shot on goal by the opposing team, so they stay even fresher?
Swayman came in too late last year, that's true. But if Ullmark wasn't injured (which we only found out when it was too late) and doesn't gift Tkachuk an empty net in OT, Montgomery should have stayed with his hot goalie.
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 21, 2024 15:31:45 GMT
How'd that theory work out last year? I give up. You're right. And dozens of professional NHL coaches are wrong, and have been wrong for decades. Why don't we create a petition to have Montgomery rotate them every period? Or maybe after each shot on goal by the opposing team, so they stay even fresher?
Swayman came in too late last year, that's true. But if Ullmark wasn't injured (which we only found out when it was too late) and doesn't gift Tkachuk an empty net in OT, Montgomery should have stayed with his hot goalie.I may be right I may not be... Who knows, I'm just giving my option on the situation based on their extensive history together. Who knows what they will do.. Maybe the regular rotation, maybe you 0lsy till you lose, maybe they stick with Sway the whole way... We'll see... But if they lose and don't rotate, I'll be here to call them out for not learning from their mistakes.
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 15:54:19 GMT
I give up. You're right. And dozens of professional NHL coaches are wrong, and have been wrong for decades. Why don't we create a petition to have Montgomery rotate them every period? Or maybe after each shot on goal by the opposing team, so they stay even fresher?
Swayman came in too late last year, that's true. But if Ullmark wasn't injured (which we only found out when it was too late) and doesn't gift Tkachuk an empty net in OT, Montgomery should have stayed with his hot goalie. I may be right I may not be... Who knows, I'm just giving my option on the situation based on their extensive history together. Who knows what they will do.. Maybe the regular rotation, maybe you 0lsy till you lose, maybe they stick with Sway the whole way... We'll see... But if they lose and don't rotate, I'll be here to call them out for not learning from their mistakes. Trust me, if they lose against the Leafs it won't be because they didn't rotate (if they don't rotate)... On paper, both Swayman and Ullmark (and probably even Brandon Bussi) are better goalies than anyone the Leafs have between the pipes. It's Montgomery's and Bob Essensa's job not to louse it up this time.
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 21, 2024 16:09:15 GMT
I really enjoyed how directly certain Leaf players led to Bruin goals. Keefe sends Reaves out 2 minutes in, to land some big hits, I guess, and he ends up hitting his own player and springing a 2-on-1 that Beecher finishes. That's the risk with Reavo. Then seeing Domi's incredibly low IQ catch up with him in the most predictable way before the Debrusk goal, felt so right and just. Nylander and Matthews playing terrible defense. Just perfect. I'm sure they'll be fixing some things and coming out stronger/smarter next game, but it just couldn't have been a better start. Domi has been on about 5 teams already for a reason, he's not a smart hockey player. He also seems to think he's tough like his Dad at times which he isn't, but he did get his smarts from his Dad no question. Tie Domi became one of my personal all-time heroes when he sucker punched Ulf Scumuelsson. That was a supremely "hockey smart" thing he did...
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Post by islamorada on Apr 21, 2024 16:41:05 GMT
"The rotation" (as in "rotating goalies") didn't produce a Vezina winner and another Vezina contender. It's the goalies themselves when they played plus the B's d that produced that. You need to get that "bear hug" thing out of your mind.
Why sit a goalie who had a great game? As Barry Pederson just said, Swayman has definitely earned the opportunity to start game 2.
Just imagine Ullmark starting game 2 and stinking up the joint. Everybody and his brother would come after Montgomery for answers then.
(And btw, I have no idea why Montgomery had to say "I think Grz was very good for us". Well, I have an idea why - he probably knows Grz' father and brother...) I dissagree. The 50/50 rotation has given both goalies the ability to stay fresh and play to the best of their abilities. Every goalie has a sweet spot for number of games and frequency. Neither has had a straight up full workload aside from Linus last year and we see how that ended up. Sway has definitely played well enough to get the next start, I agree with that. But Linus has played well enough to deserve a start.. He's last years vezina winner ffs. And what if they start sway and he sucks... Now you've killed the momentum and advantage he had and now TO thinks they solved him and his run is over. I would say trust the system that is undoubtedly successful. Imagine a long playoff run, say right up to game 7 of the scf where your top goalie is fresh physically and mentally, not tired not fatigued and at the top of his game... That's a big.. HUGE advantage. Also, the B's CHOSE to keep both... So fucking use them! That's THEIR gameplan. How fucking stupid was it to have/keep 2 legit number one guys just to completely lose the value of one when it matters the most. Again, trust the system.. Neither Sway or Linus has been a "back to back" style goalie. Don't sit one for too long, don't play one for too long... They have found the recipe for for that exact system and it's worked... But who knows.. This is just my opinion... Lots are split on this... Just don't fuck it up AGAIN B's!!! I can see the logic completely of playing both goalies. And staying with Swayman is not too far off either as a choice. Monty gets paid the big bucks to make the decisions, certainly not goalie Bob. As for the Gryz analysis, he did not do too badly. The real question is what to do if he starts to go into full playoff mode. Then the defense looks iffy on the left side. I thought Peeke had a very good 1st playoff.
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Post by socca10 on Apr 21, 2024 18:00:22 GMT
I thought Monty was pretty clear that going away from the rotation last year hurt them vs Florida. We shall see. Either way the Bruins have 2 great options and I’d say the overall play of the team will be much more impactful than who starts in goal. If the Bruins bring the same effort and intensity as they did last night, they could put Nite in goal and beat the Leafs.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Apr 21, 2024 23:58:52 GMT
I really enjoyed how directly certain Leaf players led to Bruin goals. Keefe sends Reaves out 2 minutes in, to land some big hits, I guess, and he ends up hitting his own player and springing a 2-on-1 that Beecher finishes. That's the risk with Reavo. Then seeing Domi's incredibly low IQ catch up with him in the most predictable way before the Debrusk goal, felt so right and just. Nylander and Matthews playing terrible defense. Just perfect. I'm sure they'll be fixing some things and coming out stronger/smarter next game, but it just couldn't have been a better start. Domi has been on about 5 teams already for a reason, he's not a smart hockey player. He also seems to think he's tough like his Dad at times which he isn't, but he did get his smarts from his Dad no question.The brick doesn't fall far from the wall.
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 22, 2024 0:27:03 GMT
I thought Monty was pretty clear that going away from the rotation last year hurt them vs Florida. We shall see. Either way the Bruins have 2 great options and I’d say the overall play of the team will be much more impactful than who starts in goal. If the Bruins bring the same effort and intensity as they did last night, they could put Nite in goal and beat the Leafs. Absolutely... All of this ☝️
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 22, 2024 6:20:37 GMT
What hurt them last year wasn't going away from "the rotation". It was sticking with a goalie who didn't want to tell anybody that he wasn't 100%.
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Post by MrHulot on Apr 22, 2024 11:19:02 GMT
Domi has been on about 5 teams already for a reason, he's not a smart hockey player. He also seems to think he's tough like his Dad at times which he isn't, but he did get his smarts from his Dad no question. Tie Domi became one of my personal all-time heroes when he sucker punched Ulf Scumuelsson. That was a supremely "hockey smart" thing he did...
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