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Post by dezaruchi on Dec 20, 2017 0:00:53 GMT
Yup. I just don't think you can remove the spots from the leopard. He is what he is. His play is up there with some of the best though. One of the best players in the league, and he is one of the dirtiest players in the league. Don't see that combo anymore. Not so much since Messier retired.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 20, 2017 0:10:24 GMT
James Neal is a dirty player and he's talented, Subban and Crosby can slew foot with the best of them. They may not be the total package like Marchy though.
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Post by kelvana33 on Dec 20, 2017 3:38:36 GMT
James Neal is a dirty player and he's talented, Subban and Crosby can slew foot with the best of them. They may not be the total package like Marchy though. Neal isn't as dirty and isn't as good. He's more on Lucic level both sides. I wouldn't call Crosby or Subban dirty.
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Post by kelvana33 on Dec 20, 2017 3:39:41 GMT
One of the best players in the league, and he is one of the dirtiest players in the league. Don't see that combo anymore. Not so much since Messier retired. Not bad, but for some reason, and I know he did a lot, I wouldn't put him in the dirty category. Today, yes, but not when he played.
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Post by davinator on Dec 20, 2017 3:47:26 GMT
His play on the ice has drowned the other stuff. Problem is. He will always be known for the other stuff. Which is too bad. But he created that name. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlP3tNVsWQ&t=59s
This one is out there too. He has a rep, it's warranted.
It IS warranted, but most - if not all - those 'hip checks' and 'leg sweeps' were from 3+ years ago weren't they? My original point was that a lot of the flagrant stuff has diminished the last 2-3 years...tough to shed the image. A lot of his BS surfaces when he is frustrated - hopefully he (and the Bruins) keeps playing well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 3:49:53 GMT
Not so much since Messier retired. Not bad, but for some reason, and I know he did a lot, I wouldn't put him in the dirty category. Today, yes, but not when he played. I'm thinking more Claude lemieux. PS. Messier had gordie Howe elbows. He was pretty nasty
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 20, 2017 4:08:31 GMT
James Neal is a dirty player and he's talented, Subban and Crosby can slew foot with the best of them. They may not be the total package like Marchy though. Neal isn't as dirty and isn't as good. He's more on Lucic level both sides. I wouldn't call Crosby or Subban dirty. Crosby & Subban are sneaky dirty and Neal has scored over 250 gls and potted 40 one year, so he isn’t too bad, he’s also been suspended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 4:29:03 GMT
James Neal is a dirty player and he's talented, Subban and Crosby can slew foot with the best of them. They may not be the total package like Marchy though. Neal isn't as dirty and isn't as good. He's more on Lucic level both sides. I wouldn't call Crosby or Subban dirty. Marc Methot's thumb would disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 4:33:44 GMT
Neal isn't as dirty and isn't as good. He's more on Lucic level both sides. I wouldn't call Crosby or Subban dirty. Crosby & Subban are sneaky dirty and Neal has scored over 250 gls and potted 40 one year, so he isn’t too bad, he’s also been suspended. I'd add more then just sneaky bc he gets away with it. I don't think PK is dirty. Very tmz drama. But not dirty. Although he does like slewies and I hate them. So I guess he slides in there too. Neal can be greasy as well.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 20, 2017 5:22:07 GMT
I cheated, but I would have gotten one anyway. Janey and Boyes. Juneau almost works, but he had a 14 game rookie year. Juneau does work, he was still a rookie. And Book said 3 guys. I think it was Kel who said the tools pushed Beleskey out. I can’t get over this rookie class and not only because all but DeBrisk are NCdubbleweasel trained. They won’t threaten Juneau, but the idea that two guys are having top five rookie seasons at the same time is something I am absolutely appreciating. Debrusk with Anita great effort tonight.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 20, 2017 5:23:56 GMT
Not bad, but for some reason, and I know he did a lot, I wouldn't put him in the dirty category. Today, yes, but not when he played. I'm thinking more Claude lemieux. PS. Messier had gordie Howe elbows. He was pretty nasty Mess was evil. I never saw him pass up a hit from behind
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Dec 20, 2017 5:36:00 GMT
Messier got away with a ton of crap 💩 that would not be tolerated today. The 1989 and 1990 playoff series against Calgary, Mess was a dirty dog. His battles with Otto were just grinding, hacking, punches and slashing contests. Sanstrom, Graves and Messier had the two-handed slash on the gloves down pat.
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Post by The OC on Dec 20, 2017 5:37:15 GMT
Juneau does work, he was still a rookie. And Book said 3 guys. I think it was Kel who said the tools pushed Beleskey out. I can’t get over this rookie class and not only because all but DeBrisk are NCdubbleweasel trained. They won’t threaten Juneau, but the idea that two guys are having top five rookie seasons at the same time is something I am absolutely appreciating. Debrusk with Anita great effort tonight. Nobody threatens Juneau on my watch!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 5:46:27 GMT
I'm thinking more Claude lemieux. PS. Messier had gordie Howe elbows. He was pretty nasty Mess was evil. I never saw him pass up a hit from behind Yeah he was. Murray told me a story where he caught messier with a basic hit near the Rangers bench. On the next face off. Kocur beuk graves all told Murray he wouldn't make it out msg alive. Another fun fact. Beuk career was ended essentially by mat Johnson. Jeff hit Murray dirty. Johnson sucked Jeff.
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Post by pletchner on Dec 20, 2017 14:04:59 GMT
Juneau does work, he was still a rookie. And Book said 3 guys. Yep. Following the NHL rule that you're still a rookie if you don't hit the minimum games for it to count as a season. So I got it right. But I didn't. Sounds about right.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 20, 2017 14:15:24 GMT
Mess was evil. I never saw him pass up a hit from behind Yeah he was. Murray told me a story where he caught messier with a basic hit near the Rangers bench. On the next face off. Kocur beuk graves all told Murray he wouldn't make it out msg alive. Another fun fact. Beuk career was ended essentially by mat Johnson. Jeff hit Murray dirty. Johnson sucked Jeff. Did you read that story TSN had on Matt Johnson? Hard times, on the streets in Cali somewhere, forget now, Santa Monica maybe, anyway another sad tale.
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Post by The OC on Dec 20, 2017 16:17:22 GMT
Yeah he was. Murray told me a story where he caught messier with a basic hit near the Rangers bench. On the next face off. Kocur beuk graves all told Murray he wouldn't make it out msg alive. Another fun fact. Beuk career was ended essentially by mat Johnson. Jeff hit Murray dirty. Johnson sucked Jeff. Did you read that story TSN had on Matt Johnson? Hard times, on the streets in Cali somewhere, forget now, Santa Monica maybe, anyway another sad tale. If only Cam Neely had called him. He could have banged Pam Anderson.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 20, 2017 16:22:15 GMT
Did you read that story TSN had on Matt Johnson? Hard times, on the streets in Cali somewhere, forget now, Santa Monica maybe, anyway another sad tale. If only Cam Neely had called him. He could have banged Pam Anderson. According to Matt's parents he's not accepting calls. In that case, not much Seabass could do.
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Post by Mutant on Dec 22, 2017 8:19:03 GMT
Yeah he was. Murray told me a story where he caught messier with a basic hit near the Rangers bench. On the next face off. Kocur beuk graves all told Murray he wouldn't make it out msg alive. Another fun fact. Beuk career was ended essentially by mat Johnson. Jeff hit Murray dirty. Johnson sucked Jeff. Did you read that story TSN had on Matt Johnson? Hard times, on the streets in Cali somewhere, forget now, Santa Monica maybe, anyway another sad tale. Searching for Matt JohnsonJesus.
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