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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2021 18:45:31 GMT
And of course, the question resets. Vigneault and his entire staff? Flyers suck. They got just crushed by the Bolts yesterday, and man...you have to wonder what the hell is wrong with them. Did that roster just quit on Vigneault and Therrien?
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 6, 2021 19:06:12 GMT
Vigneault and his entire staff? Flyers suck. They got just crushed by the Bolts yesterday, and man...you have to wonder what the hell is wrong with them. Did that roster just quit on Vigneault and Therrien? Fletcher made a bunch of changes, brought in Atkinson, Brassard, Risto & Ellis and still no change. Also changed backup tending with Jones. The Bolts game notwithstanding, goaltending hasn't been an issue really, so when everything is factored in, yeah it looks like they either quit of Elaine is a shitty coach.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2021 20:54:32 GMT
They got just crushed by the Bolts yesterday, and man...you have to wonder what the hell is wrong with them. Did that roster just quit on Vigneault and Therrien? Fletcher made a bunch of changes, brought in Atkinson, Brassard, Risto & Ellis and still no change. Also changed backup tending with Jones. The Bolts game notwithstanding, goaltending hasn't been an issue really, so when everything is factored in, yeah it looks like they either quit of Elaine is a shitty coach. I think that's the most surprising thing - they can't blame it all on the goalies. Their numbers aren't stellar but they aren't AHL level like they've been some years. The fact is, the Flyers are among the worst teams in the league in scoring. 30th in total goals, 27th in GF/GP, and 30th in PP. While they're missing Kevin Hayes, they still have Giroux, JVR, Atkinson, Konecny, Couturier, Laughton and Farabee up front. That's over $49M in forwards, with both Farabee and Couturier signed to extensions with big raises. There's too much talent there to score that little. When they made the Voracek for Atkinson deal, I heard or read some stuff about that being a move to shake up the lockerroom. No one is safe etc., need to pull together yadda yadda. Doesn't seem to have done a damn thing for them. Only Edmonton, Columbus and Ottawa give up more shots, a sure sign of negligible team D. The side swipe by Lehner may have been telling.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2021 22:29:41 GMT
...and, of course, the question resets...
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 13, 2021 20:58:44 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah!
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 10, 2022 19:03:03 GMT
Ducharme..boom!! Tippett....boom! Who's next?
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 10, 2022 19:03:51 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah! Yep, there is a chance 50, you sly dog!!!!
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Post by islamorada on Feb 10, 2022 21:43:15 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah! Yep, there is a chance 50, you sly dog!!!! All Powerful Fiddy!
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 14, 2022 20:32:00 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah! Well, 50% of the way there....
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 14, 2022 20:36:53 GMT
This has been a hell of a season on coaches. All these guys were head coaches to start the season:
Quenneville Tippett Green Ducharme Colliton Elaine Vigneault.
We're barely past the half way mark.
And the question, of course, re-sets.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 15, 2022 13:14:00 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah! Well, 50% of the way there.... Just wait, don't be impatient.....
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 15, 2022 13:34:41 GMT
Any chance Holland fires Tippett and brings in his old pal Babcrock? That would be worth a laugh i tell yah! Yep, there is a chance 50, you sly dog!!!! I'll take 50% at the dog track.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 1, 2022 20:56:53 GMT
Blashill and his assistants fired in Detroit, 6 DNQ's in a row will do that. I actually wondered why they waited so long.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 1, 2022 23:16:58 GMT
Blashill and his assistants fired in Detroit, 6 DNQ's in a row will do that. I actually wondered why they waited so long. I think Yzerman’s just a different cat. He wanted to keep the players off that new coach smell rollercoaster. At least until he felt that they had a real chance. I think he makes some prudent moves to upgrade his vets and they push for a spot next year. He might have waited longer but those double digit goals against games just can’t pass the sniff test.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 2, 2022 2:40:32 GMT
Blashill and his assistants fired in Detroit, 6 DNQ's in a row will do that. I actually wondered why they waited so long. I think Yzerman’s just a different cat. He wanted to keep the players off that new coach smell rollercoaster. At least until he felt that they had a real chance. I think he makes some prudent moves to upgrade his vets and they push for a spot next year. He might have waited longer but those double digit goals against games just can’t pass the sniff test. Yeah, Yzerman will be going into his 4th year as GM and he likely wasn't going to fire Blashill until he figured out how big of a mess Holland left him and it was substantial. If he makes the right adds they could challenge for a spot next year but it will be tough.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 2, 2022 17:00:53 GMT
I think Yzerman’s just a different cat. He wanted to keep the players off that new coach smell rollercoaster. At least until he felt that they had a real chance. I think he makes some prudent moves to upgrade his vets and they push for a spot next year. He might have waited longer but those double digit goals against games just can’t pass the sniff test. Yeah, Yzerman will be going into his 4th year as GM and he likely wasn't going to fire Blashill until he figured out how big of a mess Holland left him and it was substantial. If he makes the right adds they could challenge for a spot next year but it will be tough. Could be...but I think this year has to buy him some believe-ability in terms of what they have coming. Lots of expectations that Edvinsson will be special. They have 10 high picks (1 first, 9 second) over the last few drafts who haven't debuted yet, and that's not counting Edvinsson or goalie-of-the-future Cossa. The fact Seider and Raymond were both so good this year moves the yardsticks. Next year, I would bank on the sophomore slump being a reason why they don't make it even if they challenge. On the other hand, Nedelkjovic getting over HIS sophomore slump might counteract some of that. If Edvinsson and, say, Joe Veleno make the jump next year, Vrana is healthy all year (13 goals in 26 games), Fabbri is able to stay healthy (good luck...), and young guys like Rasmussen and Hronek continue to develop, a lot of the improvement won't be from acquisitions so much as development. Part of what I mean about believability is the rise of Seider. Raymond was the 4th ranked Euro skater, so seeing him go as the second Euro skater suggests a small reach, but it's very small considering most integrated mocks had him between 6 and 9, and the story on that draft was that 1-3 had separated from 4-10. And Raymond is the second highest scorer behind Stutzle, too. So he's not the story Seider is. Most rankings had him in the second half of the first round: Big Head had him 16, Button 26 and the Athletic didn't have him in the first round. CSS had him as the 6th Euro skater, behind Kakko, Podkolzin, Soderstrom, Heinola and Broberg. There were very good players in that first round - Hughes, Dach, Byram, Cozens, and Zegras all went top 9. Taking a guy who would likely have been ranked around 20 in a consensus ranking at 6 is as much of a reach as taking a guy who was ranked 45 at 15, and a bigger stretch than 23 at 14 just because of the level of certitude you expect from the top 6. They went with something it seems other teams and CSS didn't see, or didn't share with the media dinks, and now he's a 50 point rookie D and likely the Calder winner just a few years later. He played 23:03 a night as a rookie.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 9, 2022 13:56:17 GMT
Barry Trotz out of a job. Pretty shocking 4 years left on his deal.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 9, 2022 13:59:01 GMT
Barry Trotz out of a job. Pretty shocking 4 years left on his deal. Yeah, weird timing. The guy got them to two ECF's and then had the rough schedule to start the season and then Covid issues to fight through. Who knows its not the first time Captain Lou has made some strange decisions.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 9, 2022 17:27:17 GMT
I could see Trotz ending up in Philly. Yeo yeo was sacked so there's and opening there and Barry could be just what the Dr ordered to fixing thedefence on that sad sack bunch. They have some good pieces on the Dcore, just no structure, no confidence.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 9, 2022 19:20:54 GMT
I could see Trotz ending up in Philly. Yeo yeo was sacked so there's and opening there and Barry could be just what the Dr ordered to fixing thedefence on that sad sack bunch. They have some good pieces on the Dcore, just no structure, no confidence. Think Barry can choose where he wants to go with several suitors available and four years left on his deal…. He could wait til the playoffs end to see if there’re any additional vacancies…. Barry won’t be out of a job for long….
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 9, 2022 21:31:07 GMT
I could see Trotz ending up in Philly. Yeo yeo was sacked so there's and opening there and Barry could be just what the Dr ordered to fixing thedefence on that sad sack bunch. They have some good pieces on the Dcore, just no structure, no confidence. I would take Detroit over that mess in Filthy.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 9, 2022 21:39:49 GMT
I could see Trotz ending up in Philly. Yeo yeo was sacked so there's and opening there and Barry could be just what the Dr ordered to fixing thedefence on that sad sack bunch. They have some good pieces on the Dcore, just no structure, no confidence. I would take Detroit over that mess in Filthy. Maybe but you know the Flyers always like to make a big splash. There's also a job open in Winnipeg but i don't know if Trotz is ready to head home to Manitoba just yet. Alot will depend on who wants to pay the bill but for sure he will be in demand.
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Post by Fletcher on May 10, 2022 14:03:49 GMT
I would take Detroit over that mess in Filthy. Maybe but you know the Flyers always like to make a big splash. There's also a job open in Winnipeg but i don't know if Trotz is ready to head home to Manitoba just yet. Alot will depend on who wants to pay the bill but for sure he will be in demand. It's such a weird situation that I'm kind of waiting for another shoe to drop. Trotz did really well there and I don't think there was any indication that this was coming. I don't want to cast aspersions, but it reminds me a little of the Avs dismissing Joel Quenneville unexpectedly (and oddly, in my opinion), when we later learned that he had an aggressive DUI stop in Denver mid-afternoon one day. I really wonder if there is more to the story with Trotz. Everything seems odd about this. The decision, the timing, etc.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 10, 2022 17:13:17 GMT
Barry Trotz out of a job. Pretty shocking 4 years left on his deal. I stand corrected one year left at $4M. And that could be where the disconnect was.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 10, 2022 18:19:04 GMT
Barry Trotz out of a job. Pretty shocking 4 years left on his deal. I stand corrected one year left at $4M. And that could be where the disconnect was. Haha, i just deleted my correction post. Yep, 1 yr left isn't to hard to swallow.
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