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Post by fiberglassmask on Mar 25, 2024 6:09:57 GMT
I don't want to prey on the Sway crowd or blow down the Roadhouse with a huff and a puff, but I don't see any reason to let his contract run the B's cap situation. They have a #1 goalie who just won the Vezina and a guy who by all accounts can and will become a solid NHL goalie in Bussi. Why tie up money for Sway if you don't have to do so. Just saying. To give sizz some credence in his Woe Is Me the B's Fucking Choked Tour, what he is spot on about is why have 2 #1 goalies if you are only really banking on one to perform in the playoffs. Thus one has to go and to me it's Sway. Someone explain to me this predetermined conclusion that Bussi is a lock to “will become a solid NHL goalie.”’ The only thing about him that’s been established so far is he’s not as bad as Subban yet. The guy has done nothing to prove anything.
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Post by fiberglassmask on Mar 25, 2024 6:12:18 GMT
Fact! Cold, hard, fact! Name 1 team who had a better regular season and choked harder in the first round? Undeniable fact. I wish it wasn't so obvious. 100% unadulterated fact. Pretending this is “opinion” is willful ignorance.
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Post by fiberglassmask on Mar 25, 2024 6:13:16 GMT
LMFAO...okay, here is my cringe goalie of all-time on B's--hands fucking down--Vincent Riendeau...guy couldn't stop a beach ball through his pads Danny, I think Subban was worse.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Mar 25, 2024 11:35:52 GMT
I think its fair to consider everything if you are going to compare goaltenders. Its fair to say Swayman has had the easier assignments overall, which is a reason I don’t get too jacked up about his stats. He played well against a tough team last night, but gave up a poor goal to tie, got away with a couple other flubs and looked bad in the shootout at times. The guy down the other end looked far better because he is, but looked even better playing against the hapless Bs, especially in that embarrassing SO. Its also fair to acknowledge that Swayman is a kid with about a season under his belt. So its fair to assume he has a lot of room for improvement. Historically, goalies get better as they mature, except for the ones that do not continue to improve and the league simply figure them out. Thats up to Sway. I think Badhab pointed out the measurable improvements Rask made to his game over the years, working on weaknesses. Thats what you want from a guy. The point is valid that Sway seems to make different mistakes on different nights. I think that means he doesnt have glaring problems to button up, but he gets caught in different situations in different games because he’s a kid. He’s green, he’s got stuff to work on. That’s why I felt that all the drama over him going to Providence was silly… he would have been fine simply working on his game there for a stint. That said, I think today, Sway is still the better goaltender. He’s a work in progress, he’s got huge upside and he’s not 15 shutouts in his rookie year Tony Esposito. He’s not dragging the Bruins into the third round of the playoffs himself. What he is, is “better than Linus Ullmark.” Linus is an established pro who’s had time to get over the Buffalo Experience. I don’t know if Buffalo ruined him, but he’s not getting any better. He’s simply not demonstrated the technique thats a basis of a strong, upper-level NHL goaltender. He doesnt track the puck around the net well, gives up long wrist shots that he sees, cannot explode from post to post, never seems to know where he wants to be and takes himself out of the play like a beached whale. He’s huge, a good enough athlete to stop enough shots to get by, but he’s essentially a big Halak who plays like Anton Khudobin… with fewer saves. He’s a backup goalie and thats all he’ll ever be. Vezina winner but just a Halak or a Khudobin ? Swayman still the better goaltender ?
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Post by mdsizzle on Mar 25, 2024 12:33:51 GMT
Fact! Cold, hard, fact! Name 1 team who had a better regular season and choked harder in the first round? Undeniable fact. I wish it wasn't so obvious. 100% unadulterated fact. Pretending this is “opinion” is willful ignorance. Why people aren't as smart as us is beyond me... It's not that difficult to always be this correct, right??
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 12:43:27 GMT
LMFAO...okay, here is my cringe goalie of all-time on B's--hands fucking down--Vincent Riendeau...guy couldn't stop a beach ball through his pads Danny, I think Subban was worse. Subban was horrible, but Riendeau was awful over a much longer period--and it wasn't even that long a time...he coughed up the worst goals and was a sieve.
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Post by mdsizzle on Mar 25, 2024 12:46:53 GMT
Danny, I think Subban was worse. Subban was horrible, but Riendeau was awful over a much longer period--and it wasn't even that long a time...he coughed up the worst goals and was a sieve. It's a jekyll and Hyde situation for me... I thought young Timmy was abysmal! Like embarrassing to watch! Then he morphed to (or from, I'm forget which) Dr. Jekyll and is immortal. But 07-09ish TT was putrid.
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 13:02:04 GMT
Subban was horrible, but Riendeau was awful over a much longer period--and it wasn't even that long a time...he coughed up the worst goals and was a sieve. It's a jekyll and Hyde situation for me... I thought young Timmy was abysmal! Like embarrassing to watch! Then he morphed to (or from, I'm forget which) Dr. Jekyll and is immortal. But 07-09ish TT was putrid. good point on Timmy, first go around pedestrian guy. Second go around, terrific. I wasn't a big Dafoe fan at first, then I realized hey he was good compared to a lot of goalies and I still feel he outplayed Hasak in that one series.
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 13:10:37 GMT
I don't want to prey on the Sway crowd or blow down the Roadhouse with a huff and a puff, but I don't see any reason to let his contract run the B's cap situation. They have a #1 goalie who just won the Vezina and a guy who by all accounts can and will become a solid NHL goalie in Bussi. Why tie up money for Sway if you don't have to do so. Just saying. To give sizz some credence in his Woe Is Me the B's Fucking Choked Tour, what he is spot on about is why have 2 #1 goalies if you are only really banking on one to perform in the playoffs. Thus one has to go and to me it's Sway. Someone explain to me this predetermined conclusion that Bussi is a lock to “will become a solid NHL goalie.”’ The only thing about him that’s been established so far is he’s not as bad as Subban yet. The guy has done nothing to prove anything. At the time, there was a sense Bussi was supposed to be pretty good, then DiPietro gets signed and may have passed him by. Who knows about unknowns. I really liked Vladar, then he's been pretty awful in Calgary. So agreed you can't really bank on any minor league goalie until they pass the Big Boy Test in NHL for some extended period. And after really thinking about my post from July, 2023 (we are really going to go pre-season lookups? Okay, I have gone back 5 or 6 years for some, but for hilarity only)...I disagree now about 1 or 2...you need 2 and they have 2 and they may need both to go any distance in Playoffs. Or Ullmark stands on his head and doesn't get hurt for a change, or Roadhouse returns to form by getting regular starts (which he was great in that stretch this year in that situation)...lastly, the Sizz to his credit has moved on (as has Moogie) from the post-choke malaise of last year....or have they?
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 13:45:10 GMT
Monty had hinted toward possibly allowing 1 goalie to get a few straight starts...it would be nice if he would let 35 get this right now. Then you go back to Sway after his rest period, and if he comes out and plays great, go back to 35, then come back to Sway for a few in a row. This is the time to experiment and figure out what's best. To me, honestly, Alternating Huggie Bears were nice in 22-23, but not this season it seems. To me, one goalie has been playing better than the other--right now it's 35 over 1, and until All-Star Break pretty much 1 over 35. So let the competition begin or continue, but Monty should play 35 at Florida
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Post by fiberglassmask on Mar 25, 2024 14:17:29 GMT
Subban was horrible, but Riendeau was awful over a much longer period--and it wasn't even that long a time...he coughed up the worst goals and was a sieve. It's a jekyll and Hyde situation for me... I thought young Timmy was abysmal! Like embarrassing to watch! Then he morphed to (or from, I'm forget which) Dr. Jekyll and is immortal. But 07-09ish TT was putrid. Yeah , early TT was unbelievably bad. I just couldn’t get over why they kept him around, given some of those goals. There was a YouTube clip I saw once of some of his worst, omg. But he’s a strange one in that even after he figured it out, his style just resulted in the propensity to give up awful looking goals. Sometimes within some of his best games. I guess Esposito did that to a point, too.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Mar 25, 2024 14:21:17 GMT
Monty had hinted toward possibly allowing 1 goalie to get a few straight starts...it would be nice if he would let 35 get this right now. Then you go back to Sway after his rest period, and if he comes out and plays great, go back to 35, then come back to Sway for a few in a row. This is the time to experiment and figure out what's best. To me, honestly, Alternating Huggie Bears were nice in 22-23, but not this season it seems. To me, one goalie has been playing better than the other--right now it's 35 over 1, and until All-Star Break pretty much 1 over 35. So let the competition begin or continue, but Monty should play 35 at Florida Monty said he would alternate all the way through the end of the regular season. I would not be shocked with Ullmark starting Tuesday in Florida.
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Post by fiberglassmask on Mar 25, 2024 14:24:21 GMT
Someone explain to me this predetermined conclusion that Bussi is a lock to “will become a solid NHL goalie.”’ The only thing about him that’s been established so far is he’s not as bad as Subban yet. The guy has done nothing to prove anything. At the time, there was a sense Bussi was supposed to be pretty good, then DiPietro gets signed and may have passed him by. Who knows about unknowns. I really liked Vladar, then he's been pretty awful in Calgary. So agreed you can't really bank on any minor league goalie until they pass the Big Boy Test in NHL for some extended period. And after really thinking about my post from July, 2023 (we are really going to go pre-season lookups? Okay, I have gone back 5 or 6 years for some, but for hilarity only)...I disagree now about 1 or 2...you need 2 and they have 2 and they may need both to go any distance in Playoffs. Or Ullmark stands on his head and doesn't get hurt for a change, or Roadhouse returns to form by getting regular starts (which he was great in that stretch this year in that situation)...lastly, the Sizz to his credit has moved on (as has Moogie) from the post-choke malaise of last year....or have they? I haven’t. I don’t blame Sizz one bit. I’ve managed to shake off my general unpleasantness and I can watch Bruins in 2 and watch the games that they don’t blow in the third period (that eliminates quite a few). But last year’s playoff changed me for good. Piggybacking 2019, it was worse than 1972. I’ll never believe in them in a playoff situation again.
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 14:28:56 GMT
At the time, there was a sense Bussi was supposed to be pretty good, then DiPietro gets signed and may have passed him by. Who knows about unknowns. I really liked Vladar, then he's been pretty awful in Calgary. So agreed you can't really bank on any minor league goalie until they pass the Big Boy Test in NHL for some extended period. And after really thinking about my post from July, 2023 (we are really going to go pre-season lookups? Okay, I have gone back 5 or 6 years for some, but for hilarity only)...I disagree now about 1 or 2...you need 2 and they have 2 and they may need both to go any distance in Playoffs. Or Ullmark stands on his head and doesn't get hurt for a change, or Roadhouse returns to form by getting regular starts (which he was great in that stretch this year in that situation)...lastly, the Sizz to his credit has moved on (as has Moogie) from the post-choke malaise of last year....or have they? I haven’t. I don’t blame Sizz one bit. I’ve managed to shake off my general unpleasantness and I can watch Bruins in 2 and watch the games that they don’t blow in the third period (that eliminates quite a few). But last year’s playoff changed me for good. Piggybacking 2019, it was worse than 1972. I’ll never believe in them in a playoff situation again. fiber, 2010, up 3-0, up 3-0 in game 7...79 Too Many Men, got Habs dynasty beat--win Cup as they would have killed John Davidson's Rangers...B's have had many a crushing defeat in playoffs, some up 3 games to 1, others just a rough game 7 that goes the wrong way...all that said, I get the lack of faith, but every playoff is a new adventure. Go B's!
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 14:30:58 GMT
It's a jekyll and Hyde situation for me... I thought young Timmy was abysmal! Like embarrassing to watch! Then he morphed to (or from, I'm forget which) Dr. Jekyll and is immortal. But 07-09ish TT was putrid. Yeah , early TT was unbelievably bad. I just couldn’t get over why they kept him around, given some of those goals. There was a YouTube clip I saw once of some of his worst, omg. But he’s a strange one in that even after he figured it out, his style just resulted in the propensity to give up awful looking goals. Sometimes within some of his best games. I guess Esposito did that to a point, too. In the end, expecting bad goals to not happen is asking for too much, especially today's NHL. Back then, it was anything goes too. Who cares. Espo made like 5,654 saves to eliminate the 75 B's...shit happens.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Mar 25, 2024 21:01:54 GMT
This is just sizzles eyeball test... No Mas... Take it all with a grain of salt, but it hasn't been too difficult... It's mostly been, play like shit and lose and you get a minus. Play well and win, get a plus. I think you think I think I have it in for good old Linus, but I really don't. I hope the guy does well, but he's just been brutal to watch.... Just calling it like I see it. I trashed OC's boy pretty hard when he let by those two goals off the logo and in. I really have no bias here and my FP Calc isn't rigged. And ya, those 16 games... Not like the guy was stealing games Tuukka-style... Sox said it best, they seemed to win despite his play. If we kept a tally of how many times Linus helped his team vs his team helping him, I bet that would be pretty damn lopsided too. One of the reasons I like hearing from soxfan and sizzle is both were/are goalies, so they have a pretty good idea about style, about composure, about how good a goalie really is v. how good the stats are or how good the team is. But I see what sizz/sox/nite sees on LlamaMark. It's not even just goals allowed, it's how he often can be found on his stomach (or back) for absolutely no reason following an initial shot. It's like he is hoping upon hoping someone will clear the puck from danger or that he will be lucky enough to find the puck on the rebound or I have no idea what exactly the guy is thinking. When Brian Hayward (former Canadien), a NHL goalie, who has been a long-time Ducks analyst says "Linus is going to the wrong post, he's going in the wrong direction. Not a good sign for a goalie." When I hear this stuff, I'm taking it seriously. And when I see the same things, like his drifting and then the shot is coming to the far post and he is sliding to the right post....is he not seeing the puck at all? Does he need glasses? Is he perpetually screened? He looks awful by the eyetest to me, and frankly I'm thinking 75 percent of the posters in here knew he was not going to stop the winning goal after the penalty was called on 73. And he didn't--and I defended him because he should have gotten a loser point--he played better the last 2 periods--but the damage was done giving up 3 in the first. Ullmark has made some terrific individual highlight reel saves at times and that's great, but he can't stop a breakaway and he is not good when the B's are on the PK. Some 7 more pp goals scored against Linus over Roadhouse. I agree 100 percent with sizz and I feel that the B's may have to look at the idea of acquiring a vet goalie TO BACK UP Swayman for injury or poor performance--for the playoffs. Ullmark is unreliable. To add, for 3 months at start of season I was hardpressed to find any B's goalie be a #1 star in a game, Sway even back then. So few standout performances. So you're brining LlamaMark knickname back ?
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Post by dannycater on Mar 25, 2024 21:05:52 GMT
One of the reasons I like hearing from soxfan and sizzle is both were/are goalies, so they have a pretty good idea about style, about composure, about how good a goalie really is v. how good the stats are or how good the team is. But I see what sizz/sox/nite sees on LlamaMark. It's not even just goals allowed, it's how he often can be found on his stomach (or back) for absolutely no reason following an initial shot. It's like he is hoping upon hoping someone will clear the puck from danger or that he will be lucky enough to find the puck on the rebound or I have no idea what exactly the guy is thinking. When Brian Hayward (former Canadien), a NHL goalie, who has been a long-time Ducks analyst says "Linus is going to the wrong post, he's going in the wrong direction. Not a good sign for a goalie." When I hear this stuff, I'm taking it seriously. And when I see the same things, like his drifting and then the shot is coming to the far post and he is sliding to the right post....is he not seeing the puck at all? Does he need glasses? Is he perpetually screened? He looks awful by the eyetest to me, and frankly I'm thinking 75 percent of the posters in here knew he was not going to stop the winning goal after the penalty was called on 73. And he didn't--and I defended him because he should have gotten a loser point--he played better the last 2 periods--but the damage was done giving up 3 in the first. Ullmark has made some terrific individual highlight reel saves at times and that's great, but he can't stop a breakaway and he is not good when the B's are on the PK. Some 7 more pp goals scored against Linus over Roadhouse. I agree 100 percent with sizz and I feel that the B's may have to look at the idea of acquiring a vet goalie TO BACK UP Swayman for injury or poor performance--for the playoffs. Ullmark is unreliable. To add, for 3 months at start of season I was hardpressed to find any B's goalie be a #1 star in a game, Sway even back then. So few standout performances. So you're brining LlamaMark knickname back ? In 2022, he was a different goalie. He morphed into Rask last year and this year he has gotten out of his slump. So no LlamaMark. We aren't allowed to change opinions based on performance? I've been campaigning for him to be the #1 goalie even this year as far as postseason.
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