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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 11, 2016 15:50:10 GMT
I thought his contained, disciplined speech at the Detroit Economic Club earlier in the week was possibly an indication of a more consistent, focussed attack mode on Hillary Clinton in order to gouge out the generous, lingering fodder on her side instead of the daily scrambling to defend or explain one of his comments. That lasted, what, one day? I think he can't a) listen to his staff or b) have a competent staff or c) do well with prepared remarks. I don't think he likes being scripted or prescribed or told what to say, and that's got a lot to do with why he's not representing a policy platform in most of his public appearances other than his personal brand items like Trump Wall and Trump Ban on Muslims. If he gets into the stuff that is really policy, he's off his dime and if he's not comfortable he can't be TRUMP. No matter how vulnerable he might actually be as a result of his extempore remarks, he prefers that to the fear of vulnerability in being caught without the answers to follow up questions. The "which foot" question is a good example and might be one he thinks of when he makes the choices he makes. Those remarks, along with his celebrity, helped propelled him to the nomination in the primaries on the crest of millions of votes. Shouldn't he or his team recognize that what worked in the earlier stage, isn't working at the moment and that he should veer from that form? Doesn't he have to try and gather those folks, dissatisfied Democrats or Republicans, who haven't made up their minds?
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Post by schlich on Aug 11, 2016 15:54:06 GMT
I think he can't a) listen to his staff or b) have a competent staff or c) do well with prepared remarks. I don't think he likes being scripted or prescribed or told what to say, and that's got a lot to do with why he's not representing a policy platform in most of his public appearances other than his personal brand items like Trump Wall and Trump Ban on Muslims. If he gets into the stuff that is really policy, he's off his dime and if he's not comfortable he can't be TRUMP. No matter how vulnerable he might actually be as a result of his extempore remarks, he prefers that to the fear of vulnerability in being caught without the answers to follow up questions. The "which foot" question is a good example and might be one he thinks of when he makes the choices he makes. Those remarks, along with his celebrity, helped propelled him to the nomination in the primaries on the crest of millions of votes. Shouldn't he or his team recognize that what worked in the earlier stage, isn't working at the moment and that he should veer from that form? Doesn't he have to try and gather those folks, dissatisfied Democrats or Republicans, who haven't made up their minds? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! He might hear you.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 11, 2016 16:26:39 GMT
I thought his contained, disciplined speech at the Detroit Economic Club earlier in the week was possibly an indication of a more consistent, focussed attack mode on Hillary Clinton in order to gouge out the generous, lingering fodder on her side instead of the daily scrambling to defend or explain one of his comments. That lasted, what, one day? He's like a kid that can't help putting his hand on a hot stove. Trump likes to go to the well, eh, henry? His comments force Clinton to respond to them but they tend to overshadow other aspects of any political opinions he might have expressed. His manner of being really loose with his words seems counterproductive at this point. Yesterday's calling of Obama and Clinton the "founder" and "co-founder" respectively, was the big headline making his view of America being wrong to go to war in Iraq and, what was it, the way that the President withdrew the forces seem secondary.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 11, 2016 16:35:11 GMT
Those remarks, along with his celebrity, helped propelled him to the nomination in the primaries on the crest of millions of votes. Shouldn't he or his team recognize that what worked in the earlier stage, isn't working at the moment and that he should veer from that form? Doesn't he have to try and gather those folks, dissatisfied Democrats or Republicans, who haven't made up their minds? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! He might hear you.Seems the only voice he hears is his own, schlich.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 11, 2016 17:06:11 GMT
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! He might hear you.Seems the only voice he hears is his own, schlich. And it seems like he will never get tired of hearing it.
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Post by kelvana33 on Aug 11, 2016 18:02:57 GMT
Trump is beating himself right now with his comments and Hillary is cashing in on it.
They'll get their way and Hillary will get in. Middle class stiffs like myself will get bent over for another 4 years.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 11, 2016 18:47:57 GMT
Trump is beating himself right now with his comments and Hillary is cashing in on it. They'll get their way and Hillary will get in. Middle class stiffs like myself will get bent over for another 4 years. Kels, you will have a better chance under Hillary. Trump's economic plan is just Reagan's economic plan recycled. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/08/donald-trump-economic-plan-speech-fact-checkAnd this bullshit he keep spouting off about - about coal. Coal is a pretty sucky fuel. Know anyone with a coal fired furnace in their house? Natural gas, solar and wind are better resources, not only are they cleaner, but they are just better fuels. Natural gas burns more completely than oil. Whenever someone goes off about coal being the saviour, you know they are full of shit right off the bat. Most likely the middle class will continue to get fucked over, but the odds are better with Hillary. Trump is a lunatic, no 2 ways about it.
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Post by Fletcher on Aug 11, 2016 19:30:34 GMT
I think the middle class will continue to have a tough time, but I also think that the Presidential election has an almost inconsequential impact on this.
You'd be better off channeling your political energy into Congressional votes, state/local politics, and in your case kel, the police union.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:00:20 GMT
Trump down by 3-6 in polls from 10-12 a few days ago. Did Hillary get on TV?
CNN caught embellishing reports or at least quoting bad sources about the Secret Service talking to Trump...nobody's fooled.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:38:38 GMT
He's like a kid that can't help putting his hand on a hot stove. Trump likes to go to the well, eh, henry? His comments force Clinton to respond to them but they tend to overshadow other aspects of any political opinions he might have expressed. His manner of being really loose with his words seems counterproductive at this point. Yesterday's calling of Obama and Clinton the "founder" and "co-founder" respectively, was the big headline making his view of America being wrong to go to war in Iraq and, what was it, the way that the President withdrew the forces seem secondary. It's a double edged sword, his supporters and most of the American people are desperate to get away from "politics as usual" and that has an appeal. The focus was always going to be on the Republican, Hillary hasn't controlled the dialogue of a campaign her entire career. The only ammo they have is the image of Trump being unhinged and the canard that by electing somebody like him America will suddenly be thrown into a nuclear war or a depression, which is just a canard, once again. She has zero appeal as a politician.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 11, 2016 22:01:28 GMT
Trump is beating himself right now with his comments and Hillary is cashing in on it. They'll get their way and Hillary will get in. Middle class stiffs like myself will get bent over for another 4 years. If getting bent over is making you stiff, why are you complaining? You'll get buggered by government for the rest of your life, kel. Your country has a deficit so big, nite's ass could hide behind it with room for Kim Kardashian and Jimmy Vesey's ego. Someone's gotta pay and it ain't gonna be Mexico.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 12, 2016 0:44:45 GMT
Trump likes to go to the well, eh, henry? His comments force Clinton to respond to them but they tend to overshadow other aspects of any political opinions he might have expressed. His manner of being really loose with his words seems counterproductive at this point. Yesterday's calling of Obama and Clinton the "founder" and "co-founder" respectively, was the big headline making his view of America being wrong to go to war in Iraq and, what was it, the way that the President withdrew the forces seem secondary. It's a double edged sword, his supporters and most of the American people are desperate to get away from "politics as usual" and that has an appeal. The focus was always going to be on the Republican, Hillary hasn't controlled the dialogue of a campaign her entire career. The only ammo they have is the image of Trump being unhinged and the canard that by electing somebody like him America will suddenly be thrown into a nuclear war or a depression, which is just a canard, once again. She has zero appeal as a politician. He's a massive alternative to the more familiar style of politician. He's positioned himself as a rebel who's beholding to no one within the dynamics of Washington or his own party. Seems like the people who love him will stick with him regardless of what he says. I get those Republicans of note who've publicly separated themselves from him are looking after their own political assess. Understood. But, henry, shouldn't Trump cast his attention on trying to increase the number of potential voters he has for himself out there instead of his now daily routine of clarifying something he said the day before? He's doing a brake-burn every 24 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 1:37:35 GMT
It's a double edged sword, his supporters and most of the American people are desperate to get away from "politics as usual" and that has an appeal. The focus was always going to be on the Republican, Hillary hasn't controlled the dialogue of a campaign her entire career. The only ammo they have is the image of Trump being unhinged and the canard that by electing somebody like him America will suddenly be thrown into a nuclear war or a depression, which is just a canard, once again. She has zero appeal as a politician. He's a massive alternative to the more familiar style of politician. He's positioned himself as a rebel who's beholding to no one within the dynamics of Washington or his own party. Seems like the people who love him will stick with him regardless of what he says. I get those Republicans of note who've publicly separated themselves from him are looking after their own political assess. Understood. But, henry, shouldn't Trump cast his attention on trying to increase the number of potential voters he has for himself out there instead of his now daily routine of clarifying something he said the day before? He's doing a brake-burn every 24 hours. He definitely should...this has to be the most bizarre election I've seen or will probably ever see. But then again, what he's done has allowed him to stay in the race while doing things that would disqualify any other candidate. That's an astute observation. The Republicans bashing him are in close elections and some of them are in Blue states like Susan Collins in Maine. The new ones anyways. Cruz, Kasich, and Jeb will always be the Crybaby Caucus.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 12, 2016 2:10:29 GMT
I think the middle class will continue to have a tough time, but I also think that the Presidential election has an almost inconsequential impact on this. You'd be better off channeling your political energy into Congressional votes, state/local politics, Bingo! Always the ones that matter the most. Insane how much a port authority has on coastal cities.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 12, 2016 2:18:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 21:46:31 GMT
Bookboy will get a kick out of this one...Vince Foster was the original suicide that set of the Clinton circle conspiracy.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 14, 2016 4:19:41 GMT
Trump and Clinton look like they're having a grand old time at his wedding. Jump forward several years and she's on the trail calling him unfit to be President and he's slagging her off for scandals like the email server situation and dubbing her "Crooked Hillary." A crazy game, politics.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 14, 2016 13:55:34 GMT
Trump and Clinton look like they're having a grand old time at his wedding. Jump forward several years and she's on the trail calling him unfit to be President and he's slagging her off for scandals like the email server situation and dubbing her "Crooked Hillary." A crazy game, politics. American politics is a game show with the corporate media at the helm. I won't even turn on the major networks right now. Can't wait till it's over.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 14, 2016 15:21:31 GMT
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Post by schlich on Aug 14, 2016 15:45:31 GMT
Attacking our democratic process. Do you think he understands how dangerous this is. Say what you want about Al Gore. Not that it is difficult to see, but he saw the big picture. It was more than winning and losing at that point. And here's Donald preemptively raising the specter to gain an advantage at the cost of democracy. Fucking ass hole, moron.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 17:53:06 GMT
What can you say, besides the DNC brought this kind of scrutiny on themselves? It's not Trump's fault they screwed over their own voters.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 15, 2016 20:55:43 GMT
What can you say, besides the DNC brought this kind of scrutiny on themselves? It's not Trump's fault they screwed over their own voters. Somewhere in one of their offices is a dartboard with Julian Assange's picture on it.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 15, 2016 21:06:07 GMT
Trump and Clinton look like they're having a grand old time at his wedding. Jump forward several years and she's on the trail calling him unfit to be President and he's slagging her off for scandals like the email server situation and dubbing her "Crooked Hillary." A crazy game, politics. American politics is a game show with the corporate media at the helm. I won't even turn on the major networks right now. Can't wait till it's over. All that and some guy trying to climb Trump Tower.
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Post by walktheline on Aug 15, 2016 23:47:53 GMT
What can you say, besides the DNC brought this kind of scrutiny on themselves? It's not Trump's fault they screwed over their own voters. Somewhere in one of their offices is a dartboard with Julian Assange's picture on it. Julian Assangehole's current mission is to take Hillz out. It's really just a matter of finding the evidence that is compelling enough to enough voters to swing the pendulum towards trumpet. Certainly there are enough things along Clinton's crooked path for him to work with. Maybe he already has the ammo and is just waiting until just before the election to spring it, giving the DNC and the Hag no time to fabricate the cover story for the pro-Hillary/anti-Trump media to run with. Who knows but I'm expecting more drama from both sides of this shit show.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 16, 2016 0:08:53 GMT
Somewhere in one of their offices is a dartboard with Julian Assange's picture on it. Julian Assangehole's current mission is to take Hillz out. It's really just a matter of finding the evidence that is compelling enough to enough voters to swing the pendulum towards trumpet. Certainly there are enough things along Clinton's crooked path for him to work with. Maybe he already has the ammo and is just waiting until just before the election to spring it, giving the DNC and the Hag no time to fabricate the cover story for the pro-Hillary/anti-Trump media to run with. Who knows but I'm expecting more drama from both sides of this shit show. If the Justice Department won't investigate the Clinton Foindation being arms dealers. Assange at this point would need pics of the Clinton's with farm animals and eating baby's raw.
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