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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Sept 17, 2016 1:23:49 GMT
Prebus has been trying to wake up the GOP to what you stated but they won't listen. Yep, their post-report on why they lost in 2012 specifically stated their party needed to have better outreach to minorities...and yet Trump is doing the exact opposite. Some people will be in for a rude surprise in november Would have thought Drumpf could do better with Independents.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 3:15:27 GMT
The Hag could win something like 21 states and have enough electoral votes to win. Theoretically, she could lose the popular vote at the same time but I doubt the voter turnout will be sufficient for that. The galling part of her likely "victory" is that she will not understand or believe that she's the lesser of two evils in the minds of just enough voters to squeak her into the Whitehouse. She will think the majority of the country loves her. She will believe she is some bright, shining historical figure for breaking the glass ceiling, delusional sociopath that she is. The fact is, she's possibly the worst candidate since the turn of the 20th century and through a very odd, strike-of-lighting-like set of circumstances, she will have edged out a freak of a nominee. And she probably only killed 2-3 people along the way to do it That's still below the Underwood line. Trump is such a sideshow. I've always thought the man was a joke going back to his first few opportunities to garner national attention. The style, the grandiosity, and heroic self image have never worked for me. He has always reminded me of the rich kid hanging out with the popular kids who doesn't realize that they only let him because he pays for gas and booze, and occasionally steals Oxy from the medicine cabinet at home. He's faux badass and I've never seen him face a real challenge with anything like creativity or courage. I wouldn't vote for him if he was the candidate of a fringe party whose sole platform was how to make Book's life perfect...unless he actually proposed solutions to the issues that matter to me, and I could actually believe that he could deliver. Because in the end, I don't give a damn about the politics of personality crap that dominates the US media during election cycles. But it's intensely fascinating for someone who holds that perspective to watch and see just how her very identity - more than just her personality - is affecting her in this election. The Underwood line is more than a joke. One of the things that gets wrapped up in the whole "insider/outsider" line of thinking is that there is a recipe to become a viable candidate, and if you're on the inside, you can see that line as a path and make decisions based on following the path more than for any other purpose. I think that's what she's done for most of her career, and certainly since the fact Bill was test driving hummers became international knowledge. It was like she said "OK. Here's how I'm going to use this and everything else to put myself on the path to the Presidency." There are other candidates who've done that. Paul Martin was like that in Canada - among those who made it for however brief a stint. But you usually see them get to the point where they're Bobby Jindal or Martin O'Malley or worse, Lincoln Chafee. They come on stage for the first time and it's clear that they're little wooden figures playing politician. Clinton is no less the opportunist, no less the policy chameleon, than the others - I have no doubt that her goal is to become president and then not embarrass herself, not effect significant positive change in the lives of Americans using the power of the Presidency. And this close to the end, when there's no distance and perspective, you see how the opportunist has trouble turning into the skids to stay on track, because every little course correction to chase another shiny thing could potentially wreck the whole shebang. The lessons of Jimmy Stewart movies were always that the best leader is the one who doesn't want power, he (or she, but Jimmy had balls) wants change. But the process is so skewed now, those guys get booted to the curb early because someone finds pics of them dropping a deuce in a box in a parking lot. Worth reading a second time to follow the logic and bon mots. The establishment types you've mentioned are threatened by Trump because everything we've known about Presidentical politics has been thrown out the window and is being rewritten day by day in this campaign. You can't kill him; even if the electoral math is daunting, this will be a very close race. The PR skills and machinations of politicians (and athletes now) have rendered the press useless in finding the truth, so now they exist only to denounce or aggrandize candidates. I have little use for the personality politics. Being "Presidential" meant something when we had leaders that had that kind of presence and commanded a kind of respect, instead of learning how to emulate those trats in front of the camera. That's why this populist boob is so compelling; seventy percent of the US thinks the country is on the wrong track and they've lost faith. So instead of looking towards policy, they look towards culture and accept a candidate that shares their values. He scares the bejeezus out of robots like Marco Rubio thinking they might have to think on their feet. It took Hillary three days out of hiding to self-destruct. Trumps supporters, on the other hand, give him a wide berth with the truth because he's not a scripted poltical wonk. You can put me in this camp. I watch Congress for the third time fail to pass Zika funding and realize it's all over. This entire generation of Harry Reid/Mitch McConnell/Reince Priebus politicians need to be overcome and defeated at the ballot box. The only way our government can accomplish anything is through a super majority, and in that case, what gets accomplished isn't wanted by half the country.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 15:40:44 GMT
What a bunch of fucking pussies. "I've covered four elections as a journalist, but this is the first one to regularly poison my dreams; at least once a week I wake up in the middle of the night in clammy, agitated horror." "Liz, a 45-year-old photographer in suburban Minneapolis who asked to be identified only by her first name, started noticing alarming symptoms: headaches, jitteriness, tightness in her chest, sometimes even difficulty breathing. She went to her physician, who said it sounded like she was suffering from anxiety. “I thought, huh, I don’t even have a stressful job. I don’t know what that can be,” she says. Then she went home and turned on the news, “and all the sudden the symptoms came back with a fury.” She realized that thinking about Trump was affecting her health." Media manipulation in this country is out of control. There's a great article out there called "The Intellectual Yet Idiot" that demonstrates how out of touch our intellectuals and elites are with reality. This country is headed towards stateism, a nation of wimps that thinks every financial challenge from paying for school to child care to home ownership needs to be alleviated by big government programs. It's simply not America. www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.htmlmedium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577"But the problem is the one-eyed following the blind: these self-described members of the “intelligenzia” can’t find a coconut in Coconut Island, meaning they aren’t intelligent enough to define intelligence hence fall into circularities — but their main skill is capacity to pass exams written by people like them. With psychology papers replicating less than 40%, dietary advice reversing after 30 years of fatphobia, macroeconomic analysis working worse than astrology, the appointment of Bernanke who was less than clueless of the risks, and pharmaceutical trials replicating at best only 1/3 of the time, people are perfectly entitled to rely on their own ancestral instinct and listen to their grandmothers (or Montaigne and such filtered classical knowledge) with a better track record than these policymaking goons."
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 15:23:52 GMT
What a bunch of fucking pussies. "I've covered four elections as a journalist, but this is the first one to regularly poison my dreams; at least once a week I wake up in the middle of the night in clammy, agitated horror." "Liz, a 45-year-old photographer in suburban Minneapolis who asked to be identified only by her first name, started noticing alarming symptoms: headaches, jitteriness, tightness in her chest, sometimes even difficulty breathing. She went to her physician, who said it sounded like she was suffering from anxiety. “I thought, huh, I don’t even have a stressful job. I don’t know what that can be,” she says. Then she went home and turned on the news, “and all the sudden the symptoms came back with a fury.” She realized that thinking about Trump was affecting her health." Media manipulation in this country is out of control. There's a great article out there called "The Intellectual Yet Idiot" that demonstrates how out of touch our intellectuals and elites are with reality. This country is headed towards stateism, a nation of wimps that thinks every financial challenge from paying for school to child care to home ownership needs to be alleviated by big government programs. It's simply not America. www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.htmlmedium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577"But the problem is the one-eyed following the blind: these self-described members of the “intelligenzia” can’t find a coconut in Coconut Island, meaning they aren’t intelligent enough to define intelligence hence fall into circularities — but their main skill is capacity to pass exams written by people like them. With psychology papers replicating less than 40%, dietary advice reversing after 30 years of fatphobia, macroeconomic analysis working worse than astrology, the appointment of Bernanke who was less than clueless of the risks, and pharmaceutical trials replicating at best only 1/3 of the time, people are perfectly entitled to rely on their own ancestral instinct and listen to their grandmothers (or Montaigne and such filtered classical knowledge) with a better track record than these policymaking goons." this... medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577Is a bullshit rant. First, who the fuck are these people he's talking about? Everyone with a master's degree? At least to me, it seems like he's on the path to Nazi type book burnings. While we're at it, let's burn all that abstract art. Too intellectual. Anyways, a subject I've done a ton of research on. Low carb diet. Why did we get bad advice about it? This is why. www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.htmlThe "intelligenzia" wield no power, the people with the money do. My rant - the ultra wealthy. If those robber barons at the turn of the century manipulated the media as they do now, they would still be in their mansions in Rhode Island - and more. Even those robber barons at least attempted to give back to society in a big way - Vanderbilt University as one example. Todays ultra wealthy? www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/25/america-wealthy-class-betrayed-inequalityI suspect I'm wasting my breath, you're hell bent on keeping your opinions and will accept anything that you feel backs up those opinions.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 15:38:59 GMT
I would go farther than the guardian article, our society in general worships Gordon Gekko. OK, this is a joke, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYpw2uAD9bgBut these Trump supporters reflect a great many Americans explaining away these fictional tax write offs as being perfectly fine because being ridiculously greedy is the right thing to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 16:56:41 GMT
I would go farther than the guardian article, our society in general worships Gordon Gekko. OK, this is a joke, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYpw2uAD9bgBut these Trump supporters reflect a great many Americans explaining away these fictional tax write offs as being perfectly fine because being ridiculously greedy is the right thing to do. Plenty of room left on the Trump Train. Don't miss the boat!
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 17:23:08 GMT
I would go farther than the guardian article, our society in general worships Gordon Gekko. OK, this is a joke, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYpw2uAD9bgBut these Trump supporters reflect a great many Americans explaining away these fictional tax write offs as being perfectly fine because being ridiculously greedy is the right thing to do. Plenty of room left on the Trump Train. Don't miss the boat! The Trump train to armageddon. I have no doubt he would run the country exactly like he runs his businesses, sacrificing absolutely everything for his own self interest even if it means sending the world into recession. I would guess that if Trump were elected he would probably find a way to get impeached to give Pence the throne. And even tho I strongly disagree with Pence's views I believe that he would be infinitely better than Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 18:17:39 GMT
What a bunch of fucking pussies. "I've covered four elections as a journalist, but this is the first one to regularly poison my dreams; at least once a week I wake up in the middle of the night in clammy, agitated horror." "Liz, a 45-year-old photographer in suburban Minneapolis who asked to be identified only by her first name, started noticing alarming symptoms: headaches, jitteriness, tightness in her chest, sometimes even difficulty breathing. She went to her physician, who said it sounded like she was suffering from anxiety. “I thought, huh, I don’t even have a stressful job. I don’t know what that can be,” she says. Then she went home and turned on the news, “and all the sudden the symptoms came back with a fury.” She realized that thinking about Trump was affecting her health." Media manipulation in this country is out of control. There's a great article out there called "The Intellectual Yet Idiot" that demonstrates how out of touch our intellectuals and elites are with reality. This country is headed towards stateism, a nation of wimps that thinks every financial challenge from paying for school to child care to home ownership needs to be alleviated by big government programs. It's simply not America. www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.htmlmedium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577"But the problem is the one-eyed following the blind: these self-described members of the “intelligenzia” can’t find a coconut in Coconut Island, meaning they aren’t intelligent enough to define intelligence hence fall into circularities — but their main skill is capacity to pass exams written by people like them. With psychology papers replicating less than 40%, dietary advice reversing after 30 years of fatphobia, macroeconomic analysis working worse than astrology, the appointment of Bernanke who was less than clueless of the risks, and pharmaceutical trials replicating at best only 1/3 of the time, people are perfectly entitled to rely on their own ancestral instinct and listen to their grandmothers (or Montaigne and such filtered classical knowledge) with a better track record than these policymaking goons." this... medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577Is a bullshit rant. First, who the fuck are these people he's talking about? Everyone with a master's degree? At least to me, it seems like he's on the path to Nazi type book burnings. While we're at it, let's burn all that abstract art. Too intellectual. Anyways, a subject I've done a ton of research on. Low carb diet. Why did we get bad advice about it? This is why. www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.htmlThe "intelligenzia" wield no power, the people with the money do. My rant - the ultra wealthy. If those robber barons at the turn of the century manipulated the media as they do now, they would still be in their mansions in Rhode Island - and more. Even those robber barons at least attempted to give back to society in a big way - Vanderbilt University as one example. Todays ultra wealthy? www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/25/america-wealthy-class-betrayed-inequalityI suspect I'm wasting my breath, you're hell bent on keeping your opinions and will accept anything that you feel backs up those opinions. I think you're reading too far into it. What I got out of the article is that our class of "betters" has been consistently wrong in the last decade on everything from overpriced degrees leading to prosperity for Millenials to globalization being a "rising tide that lifts all ships" that there's no reason to take them at their word on anything. I see the effects of this type of thinking most when I visit my buddies in places like Portland or Austin. Depending on what year I'm traveling, they think that Obama would lead to a "post racial America" or now that GMO labeling will cure cancer and it's a good idea to ban plastic grocery bags. Policy as canned laughter. "Bags? Yeah. Helps the environment."
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Sept 24, 2016 19:52:10 GMT
Solution: trump drops out of the race, and paul Ryan takes his spot. The GOP actually has a chance at the election (Donald doesn't), and the democrats don't have to worry about fucking Armageddon. Win win
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 20:11:44 GMT
I think you're reading too far into it. What I got out of the article is that our class of "betters" has been consistently wrong in the last decade on everything from overpriced degrees leading to prosperity for Millenials to globalization being a "rising tide that lifts all ships" that there's no reason to take them at their word on anything. I see the effects of this type of thinking most when I visit my buddies in places like Portland or Austin. Depending on what year I'm traveling, they think that Obama would lead to a "post racial America" or now that GMO labeling will cure cancer and it's a good idea to ban plastic grocery bags. Policy as canned laughter. "Bags? Yeah. Helps the environment." There's no reason to take any person or group of people "at their word" ever. Best cycling coach I ever had, John Allis (who competed for the US in the Olympics) said to take everything he said with a grain of salt. Rippetoe says the same about weight lifting. It's a basic truism that you have to dig deeper into anything anyone says.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Sept 24, 2016 20:16:45 GMT
Plenty of room left on the Trump Train. Don't miss the boat! The Trump train to armageddon. I have no doubt he would run the country exactly like he runs his businesses. Climb on to the add-$24Trillion-to-the-US-Debt Train. Jump on onboard y'all!
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 20:24:23 GMT
I think you're reading too far into it. What I got out of the article is that our class of "betters" has been consistently wrong in the last decade on everything from overpriced degrees leading to prosperity for Millenials to globalization being a "rising tide that lifts all ships" that there's no reason to take them at their word on anything. I see the effects of this type of thinking most when I visit my buddies in places like Portland or Austin. Depending on what year I'm traveling, they think that Obama would lead to a "post racial America" or now that GMO labeling will cure cancer and it's a good idea to ban plastic grocery bags. Policy as canned laughter. "Bags? Yeah. Helps the environment." The obvious extension is that we should stop listening to "our betters" because they've been consistently wrong. However, they haven't been "consistently wrong." 30 years ago it was claimed that cigarette smoking caused cancer and it was only those egghead fools who believed that it did. Have a look at what many of the common folk believe; the loch ness monster, big foot, UFO's, ghosts and the biggest myth of them all - God despite the fact that there isn't a shred of viable and incontrovertible evidence to indicate any of those things actually exist. At the end of the day the majority of these things are like opinions which are like assholes, everyone has one. Plus the world isn't such a simple place. The low carb diet. Works for average people working out average amounts. I know when I was bike racing and in a tour I couldn't eat enough of anything (which was primarily carbs) to maintain weight, I kept losing weight no matter what I put in my mouth. Housing projects as the man said, yes, the majority are failures, but I would bet if you looked hard enough you could find an example of one that is working out really well somewhere. Generalizations as the one the author made are seldom true, and even when they are true they are meaningless in specific situations. Are men stronger than women? I would say yes. Does this generalization help you in any specific evaluation? No. An Olympic woman weight lifter is stronger than many men in the world.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 20:25:55 GMT
The Trump train to armageddon. I have no doubt he would run the country exactly like he runs his businesses. Climb on to the add-$24Trillion-to-the-US-Debt Train. Jump on onboard y'all! IMO that's a best case scenario. If he fucks with the dollar and the debt the way he says he will we will see a world wide depression.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Sept 24, 2016 20:31:35 GMT
Climb on to the add-$24Trillion-to-the-US-Debt Train. Jump on onboard y'all! IMO that's a best case scenario. If he fucks with the dollar and the debt the way he says he will we will see a world wide depression. Won't be a depression, we will see European countries turn against the US. At the pace of the debt owed to China, the US will just become a China Corporation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 20:40:10 GMT
The Trump train to armageddon. I have no doubt he would run the country exactly like he runs his businesses. Climb on to the add-$24Trillion-to-the-US-Debt Train. Jump on onboard y'all! That's right. When we're all out buying fur coats from the Trump Boom, you're going to feel silly that you voted for a candidate whose primary credential is being someone's wife.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Sept 24, 2016 21:40:46 GMT
Climb on to the add-$24Trillion-to-the-US-Debt Train. Jump on onboard y'all! That's right. When we're all out buying fur coats from the Trump Boom, you're going to feel silly that you voted for a candidate whose primary credential is being someone's wife. "Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 22:12:45 GMT
That's right. When we're all out buying fur coats from the Trump Boom, you're going to feel silly that you voted for a candidate whose primary credential is being someone's wife. "Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job. Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 22:24:01 GMT
"Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job. Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. I know a solution...
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 23:26:08 GMT
"Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job. Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. I for one am not complaining about the debt. I look at it this way, the country is like 30 something married people and will stay that way perpetually. Just like that couple has a mortgage, the country has a mortgage and its called the national debt. We have to buy shit that we need and we don't have the money for it, just like that couple needs a house but they don't have the cash for it. But the country never hits "retirement".
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 24, 2016 23:36:59 GMT
What a bunch of fucking pussies. "I've covered four elections as a journalist, but this is the first one to regularly poison my dreams; at least once a week I wake up in the middle of the night in clammy, agitated horror." "Liz, a 45-year-old photographer in suburban Minneapolis who asked to be identified only by her first name, started noticing alarming symptoms: headaches, jitteriness, tightness in her chest, sometimes even difficulty breathing. She went to her physician, who said it sounded like she was suffering from anxiety. “I thought, huh, I don’t even have a stressful job. I don’t know what that can be,” she says. Then she went home and turned on the news, “and all the sudden the symptoms came back with a fury.” She realized that thinking about Trump was affecting her health." Media manipulation in this country is out of control. There's a great article out there called "The Intellectual Yet Idiot" that demonstrates how out of touch our intellectuals and elites are with reality. This country is headed towards stateism, a nation of wimps that thinks every financial challenge from paying for school to child care to home ownership needs to be alleviated by big government programs. It's simply not America. www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.htmlmedium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577"But the problem is the one-eyed following the blind: these self-described members of the “intelligenzia” can’t find a coconut in Coconut Island, meaning they aren’t intelligent enough to define intelligence hence fall into circularities — but their main skill is capacity to pass exams written by people like them. With psychology papers replicating less than 40%, dietary advice reversing after 30 years of fatphobia, macroeconomic analysis working worse than astrology, the appointment of Bernanke who was less than clueless of the risks, and pharmaceutical trials replicating at best only 1/3 of the time, people are perfectly entitled to rely on their own ancestral instinct and listen to their grandmothers (or Montaigne and such filtered classical knowledge) with a better track record than these policymaking goons." this... medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577Is a bullshit rant. First, who the fuck are these people he's talking about? Everyone with a master's degree? At least to me, it seems like he's on the path to Nazi type book burnings. While we're at it, let's burn all that abstract art. Too intellectual. Anyways, a subject I've done a ton of research on. Low carb diet. Why did we get bad advice about it? This is why. www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.htmlThe "intelligenzia" wield no power, the people with the money do. My rant - the ultra wealthy. If those robber barons at the turn of the century manipulated the media as they do now, they would still be in their mansions in Rhode Island - and more. Even those robber barons at least attempted to give back to society in a big way - Vanderbilt University as one example. Todays ultra wealthy? www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/25/america-wealthy-class-betrayed-inequalityI suspect I'm wasting my breath, you're hell bent on keeping your opinions and will accept anything that you feel backs up those opinions. a nation of wimps that thinks every financial challenge from paying for school to child care to home ownership needs to be alleviated by big government programs. It's simply not America. Back a mere 7000 or years ago we had no governments at all. You could kill anyone you wanted, fuck anyone in the ass you wanted and all you had to worry about was personal retribution. If you got sick, you died. If you didn't have enough food, you starved to death. Were those the good old days? We formed governments on this planet to take care of people, control crime and to clean the shit off the streets and all that other stuff. For the people and by the people I read somewhere. This idea that government is some kind of evil is just bullshit. Yeah, they don't always get it right the first time, but they try and with enough time they work shit out. Yes, there is politics and yes there's a lot of problems with politics. The answer IS NOT to blow it up and start over. Small changes, the wheels grind slowly but finely, you can see that very clearly as we moved from an agrarian society in the 1800's to an industrial society with a lot more people and an urban environment where people can't go foraging for food if they are starving.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Sept 25, 2016 0:01:44 GMT
"Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job. Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. I shared nothing, no link. The stimulus helped create jobs, the ACA helped lower debt in states and now spending is down to levels not seen since Eisenhower was in office. The two deals that Obama and Boehner made together helped curb spending. Even another look at Dumpsters tax breaks doesn't create enough revenue and makes the trade deficit worse. If Drumpfs tax plan, now he's ok with Ryan's tax plan, added one trillion to debt you would say it's ok. Ryan's plan also doesn't bring enough revenue. The best test-case is Italy's 0.02 tax on HFT. It could wipe the US debt out in very short time. The Kochs freedom caucus are not going to allow any other revenue solution go through the House. Ryan and Dumpsters plans will not work, they both want to eliminate the "estate tax". You don't have to wonder who is asking the both of them to eliminate that tax without a replacement revenue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 0:06:29 GMT
Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. I shared nothing, no link. The stimulus helped create jobs, the ACA helped lower debt in states and now spending is down to levels not seen since Eisenhower was in office. The two deals that Obama and Boehner made together helped curb spending. Even another look at Dumpsters tax breaks doesn't create enough revenue and makes the trade deficit worse. If Drumpfs tax plan, now he's ok with Ryan's tax plan, added one trillion to debt you would say it's ok. Ryan's plan also doesn't bring enough revenue. The best test-case is Italy's 0.02 tax on HFT. It could wipe the US debt out in very short time. The Kochs freedom caucus are not going to allow any other revenue solution go through the House. Ryan and Dumpsters plans will not work, they both want to eliminate the "estate tax". You don't have to wonder who is asking the both of them to eliminate that tax without a replacement revenue. I'm happy he got rid of that first plan. That plan was my primary reason for not supporting him back in March. I think the plan needed something like 10% GDP growth to break even.
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Post by jmwalters on Sept 25, 2016 0:14:55 GMT
"Well i've built great structures". You are the blonde following the blind. I would never vote for piano legs, been mentioned many times. Dumpsters tax plan is as ridiculous as your attempts then wiffs at a spin job. Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. The great state of Kansas agrees with your assessment........tax cuts and austerity for everyone!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 0:21:52 GMT
Then perhaps instead of sharing erroneous information, you can wow us with some macroeconomic analysis? How would you fix the national debt in a political climate that won't tolerate tax hikes or austerity? If you're complaining about being trillions in debt, did you support using the stimulus to create demand? Thrill us. The great state of Kansas agrees with your assessment........tax cuts and austerity for everyone!!! They can't create demand, but the alternative (assuming the idea is growth instead of getting out of a recession) is just more government.
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