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Post by sportsnut on Nov 20, 2016 16:25:09 GMT
So the fact that the cast/audience decided to embarrass a visitor to the show is a-ok? I found the incident incredibly disrespectful and classless. I didn't like what the Hamilton cast did either. I don't like a lot of Pence's politics but what he endured at the show was indeed classless and not called for. I agree and I wasn't fond of a lot of the language used by Trump during his campaign either. The campaign is over though, I'm glad to see his rhetoric has toned down substantially. I'm not disappointed that he chose to call out this incident though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 16:25:49 GMT
If he ever gets there. He might spend the next 4 years doing this. www.ew.com/article/2016/11/19/donald-trump-deletes-hamilton-tweetThe obvious thing to do is to say 'of course we will represent all Americans ... blah blah blah' No. Instead he stirs up shit. Controversial, polarizing and close election, of course these people are lightning rods when they appear publicly. There would have been a ton of shit if Hillary were elected as well. So the fact that the cast/audience decided to embarrass a visitor to the show is a-ok? I found the incident incredibly disrespectful and classless. But, back to Trump...why is protest only allowed from the left? At least Trump's "protest" of the incident via tweets didnt cause millions of dollars in damage and injure people, right? Where was the outcry from that? America is tired of being lectured by liberals in high society...these people are becoming worse than the Religious Right. |
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Post by islamorada on Nov 20, 2016 16:26:46 GMT
Al Gore win then popular vote in 2000. Bush Jr. was a bone head. The banks went wild afterwards ending with the "Great Recession" as of the word depression was not to be used. OBama takes over, the great change was the same ole banking credo. China owned our debtedness. But the world changes, China is cracking down on the media. Russia is too. Hillary was no different. Trump is change, the effect is polarization. I welcome the change! There is no super majority in Congress. Relax. Stuff like this shows just how much politicians have lost the plot: “I didn’t think it was offensive,” Abraham told WDSU. “Maybe some people do — OK. But it was a cake I just wanted to share with everybody.” www.yahoo.com/beauty/offensive-birthday-cake-sets-politicians-at-odds-233538995.htmlHenry, here is my take on these types of incidents. I think the "cake" was in poor taste. Yet equally damning is the attempt to politicize the event. The new transparency under the social media has created a stage of media hype. I sincerely wonder if Claire Luce Booth were to see the "cake" she would make a cunning remark on the thought process of men then promptly let others form opinion of the male behavior which is damning enough. You are correct, the "cake" fight is stupid. There are other important issues to take care of in Louisiana, i.e.. jobs for those making under 60k a year. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 16:32:53 GMT
Henry, here is my take on these types of incidents. I think the "cake" was in poor taste. Yet equally damning is the attempt to politicize the event. The new transparency under the social media has created a stage of media hype. I sincerely wonder if Claire Luce Booth were to see the "cake" she would make a cunning remark on the thought process of men then promptly let others form opinion of the male behavior which is damning enough. You are correct, the "cake" fight is stupid. There are other important issues to take care of in Louisiana, i.e.. jobs for those making under 60k a year. Yep...you've got the ugly broad that gets reminded by the cake she hasn't gotten laid in five years, then the boy's club buffoon that doesn't see how anybody could be offended because all of his buddies that look like him and have the same number of zeros in their bank account agree this was hilarious. I do think destroying the cake was really over the top. No impulse control. |
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Post by walktheline on Nov 20, 2016 18:09:12 GMT
Al Gore win then popular vote in 2000. Bush Jr. was a bone head. The banks went wild afterwards ending with the "Great Recession" as of the word depression was not to be used. OBama takes over, the great change was the same ole banking credo. China owned our debtedness. But the world changes, China is cracking down on the media. Russia is too. Hillary was no different. Trump is change, the effect is polarization. I welcome the change! There is no super majority in Congress. Relax. Stuff like this shows just how much politicians have lost the plot: “I didn’t think it was offensive,” Abraham told WDSU. “Maybe some people do — OK. But it was a cake I just wanted to share with everybody.” www.yahoo.com/beauty/offensive-birthday-cake-sets-politicians-at-odds-233538995.htmlTo me, the reaction is worse than the original offense. Yeah, having the cake out in full view in the Capital wasn't the brightest thing to do. The political correctness has gone way out of balance. The PC police are zero tolerance Nazis.
My wife is an engineer so has always worked in male dominated workplaces. I asked her how she would handle the same situation. She would have looked at the cake then looked at the guys and said: " Enjoy your cake, boys...probably the closest your going to get to the real thing any time soon". Done.
Oh, and one other thought. The tits needed to be bigger on that cake 
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Post by sportsnut on Nov 20, 2016 19:39:47 GMT
To me, the reaction is worse than the original offense. Yeah, having the cake out in full view in the Capital wasn't the brightest thing to do. The political correctness has gone way out of balance. The PC police are zero tolerance Nazis.
My wife is an engineer so has always worked in male dominated workplaces. I asked her how she would handle the same situation. She would have looked at the cake then looked at the guys and said: " Enjoy your cake, boys...probably the closest your going to get to the real thing any time soon". Done.
Oh, and one other thought. The tits needed to be bigger on that cake
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 19:46:21 GMT
To me, the reaction is worse than the original offense. Yeah, having the cake out in full view in the Capital wasn't the brightest thing to do. The political correctness has gone way out of balance. The PC police are zero tolerance Nazis.
My wife is an engineer so has always worked in male dominated workplaces. I asked her how she would handle the same situation. She would have looked at the cake then looked at the guys and said: " Enjoy your cake, boys...probably the closest your going to get to the real thing any time soon". Done.
Oh, and one other thought. The tits needed to be bigger on that cake
Thumbs always up for bigger tits. Yeah...how about canteloupe size? |
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Post by sportsnut on Nov 20, 2016 20:48:22 GMT
Thumbs always up for bigger tits. Yeah...how about canteloupe size? Perfect. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 21:12:23 GMT
Yeah...how about canteloupe size? Perfect. ¡Aye-yi-yay! |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 21, 2016 23:31:47 GMT
"Donald Trump is dead. Hillary Clinton will be indicted. President Obama is thinking of fleeing the country of Trump wins. All these things are false, and yet they are some of the thousands of headlines that went viral during a presidential campaign already sorely lacking a grounding in facts. The most quintessential example of the both scourge and popularity of fake news came the day after the election, when The Fix's Philip Bump found the top Google search result for “final election results” linked to a site declaring Trump won the popular vote by 700,000 votes. (Trump is currently losing it by 1.7 million votes and counting.)
Just because the campaign is over doesn't mean fake news is. As long as people click on it, there's money to make off it, which means your Facebook feed will likely continue to fill up with it. (More on social media's role on all this below.) So let's take a real hard look at the growing phenomenon of fake news. How fake news is manufactured
The Post's Terrence McCoy hung out with the two-person team of the pro-Trump LibertyWritersNews.com, one of dozens of partisan sites that has gotten tens of millions of views (and an untold number of advertising dollars) by basically screaming innuendos, rumor and their own opinions to an audience hungry for it. Here's an excerpt from McCoy's excellent, must-read-in-full piece about how they do their work and get their "hits," as we say in the business:
Fewer than 2,000 readers are on his website when Paris Wade, 26, awakens from a nap, reaches for his laptop and thinks he needs to, as he puts it, “feed” his audience. “Man, no one is covering this TPP thing,” he says after seeing an article suggesting that President Obama wants to pass the Trans-Pacific Partnership before he leaves office. Wade, a modern-day digital opportunist, sees an opportunity. He begins typing a story. “CAN’T TRUST OBAMA,” he writes as the headline, then pauses. His audience hates Obama and loves President-elect Donald Trump, and he wants to capture that disgust and cast it as a drama between good and evil. He resumes typing: “Look At Sick Thing He Just Did To STAB Trump In The Back… .”
Ten minutes and nearly 200 words later, he is done with a story that is all opinion, innuendo and rumor. He types at the bottom, “Comment ‘DOWN WITH THE GLOBALISTS!’ below if you love this country,” publishes the story to his website, LibertyWritersNews.com, and then pulls up the Facebook page he uses to promote the site, which in six months has collected 805,000 followers and brought in tens of millions of page views. “WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN!” he writes, posting the article. “#SHARE this 1 million times, patriots!” Then he looks at a nearby monitor that shows the site’s analytics, and watches as the readers pour in."
Whether it's your Alt-Right crazy uncle or looney way-Libtard Aunt, people actually believe some really dumb made up shiite.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 0:37:29 GMT
Sounds like a great career!
Reminds me of a character that wrote yellow journalism in "American Tabloid". Peerless Politicopundit was his pen name.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 0:43:44 GMT
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Post by walktheline on Nov 22, 2016 12:41:29 GMT
You have to be mentally challenged if you vote for trump I don't think so, I think they are just gullible and take him at his word. I know lots of bright, educated, successful people who voted for Trump. None of them think he's going to build a 2000 mile wall along the US/Mexico boarder. Nor do they think he's going to ban all Muslims from entering the country. They don't believe he's going to deport Mexican families en masse. But they do think he'll bring some needed change to the country. I forget the columnist who wrote this, and I'm paraphrasing but she said something like: Hillary and the DNC take everything Trump says literally but they do not take him seriously. Trump's supporters take him seriously but do not take him literally. This notion that Trump was swept in to the White House by knuckle-dragging, uneducated, gullible losers is just flat out false. |
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 22, 2016 15:09:49 GMT
I don't think so, I think they are just gullible and take him at his word. I know lots of bright, educated, successful people who voted for Trump. None of them think he's going to build a 2000 mile wall along the US/Mexico boarder. Nor do they think he's going to ban all Muslims from entering the country. They don't believe he's going to deport Mexican families en masse. But they do think he'll bring some needed change to the country. I forget the columnist who wrote this, and I'm paraphrasing but she said something like: Hillary and the DNC take everything Trump says literally but they do not take him seriously. Trump's supporters take him seriously but do not take him literally. This notion that Trump was swept in to the White House by knuckle-dragging, uneducated, gullible losers is just flat out false. Well, yes, sweeping generalizations are virtually never true. However, there is that knuckle dragging element that is undeniably there, these ultra right groups like the KKK are feeding off of this and Trump is either taking too long or not denying them at all. Of course the left has a problem with anything that might improve the morale of these extremist groups. Change, well, just like everything else, we'll see. I see some new blood in the cabinet, I see some old hacks. And even if we could take every campaign promise literally, what you say and what you can do are always 2 different things. |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 22, 2016 17:15:29 GMT
Kris Kobach's DHS proposal is a real winner for the WASPs.
Nothing like a good Kochead protege to kick more people off voter rolls.
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Post by sportsnut on Nov 22, 2016 18:16:42 GMT
I know lots of bright, educated, successful people who voted for Trump. None of them think he's going to build a 2000 mile wall along the US/Mexico boarder. Nor do they think he's going to ban all Muslims from entering the country. They don't believe he's going to deport Mexican families en masse. But they do think he'll bring some needed change to the country. I forget the columnist who wrote this, and I'm paraphrasing but she said something like: Hillary and the DNC take everything Trump says literally but they do not take him seriously. Trump's supporters take him seriously but do not take him literally. This notion that Trump was swept in to the White House by knuckle-dragging, uneducated, gullible losers is just flat out false. , these ultra right groups like the KKK are feeding off of this and Trump is either taking too long or not denying them at all. Of course the left has a problem with anything that might improve the morale of these extremist groups. Change, well, just like everything else, we'll see. I see some new blood in the cabinet, I see some old hacks. And even if we could take every campaign promise literally, what you say and what you can do are always 2 different things. Lol, BadHab, you are a piece of work. How do you ever live up to the lofty standards of morality, intelligence and altruism that every single person on the left possesses, EVERY...SINGLE...DAY? |
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 22, 2016 18:44:09 GMT
Lol, BadHab, you are a piece of work. How do you ever live up to the lofty standards of morality, intelligence and altruism that every single person on the left possesses, EVERY...SINGLE...DAY? Thanks. I'm just happy to be here as a proud American exercising my first amendment rights and God (non denominational specific with consideration to atheists and agnostics) willing I won't get injured and I'll play it post by post. |
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Post by sportsnut on Nov 22, 2016 19:23:44 GMT
Lol, BadHab, you are a piece of work. How do you ever live up to the lofty standards of morality, intelligence and altruism that every single person on the left possesses, EVERY...SINGLE...DAY? Thanks. I'm just happy to be here as a proud American exercising my first amendment rights unrestrained stereotyping and intolerance and God (non denominational specific with consideration to atheists and agnostics) willing I won't get injured and I'll play it post by post. There you go. And you're welcome. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 19:45:21 GMT
I don't think so, I think they are just gullible and take him at his word. I know lots of bright, educated, successful people who voted for Trump. None of them think he's going to build a 2000 mile wall along the US/Mexico boarder. Nor do they think he's going to ban all Muslims from entering the country. They don't believe he's going to deport Mexican families en masse. But they do think he'll bring some needed change to the country. I forget the columnist who wrote this, and I'm paraphrasing but she said something like: Hillary and the DNC take everything Trump says literally but they do not take him seriously. Trump's supporters take him seriously but do not take him literally. This notion that Trump was swept in to the White House by knuckle-dragging, uneducated, gullible losers is just flat out false. To be fair, we did the same thing ten years ago. When people disagreed (or when laws compromised freedoms) with Republicans they were labeled unpatriotic or unamerican. It's an empty rebuttal, and a calling card of a party whose policies aren't working out in Realsville. Hectoring the opposition is no way to get votes. Whether the Dems can learn that lesson remains to be seen. With the "fake news" and th invented alt-Right faction, it looks like they're going continue building and arguing against strawmen, but who knows? I would say being labeled racist is worse because it carries possible career ramifications like we've seen with Paula Deen, Jimmy the Greek, or Sessions. I don't even think racists like being called racists, to be honest. |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 22, 2016 20:45:06 GMT
The only thing unpatrotic that came out of the Bush/Cheney era was, coincidentally, "the Patriot Act".
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 23, 2016 4:39:46 GMT
"Californians preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump by a 2-to-1 margin. They also voted to extend a state tax surcharge on the wealthy, and adopt local housing and transportation measures along with a slew of local tax increases and bond proposals. In other words, California is the opposite of Trumpland.
The differences go even deeper. For years, conservatives have been saying that a healthy economy depends on low taxes, few regulations and low wages. Are conservatives right? At the one end of the scale are Kansas and Texas, with among the nation’s lowest taxes, least regulations and lowest wages. At the other end is California, with among the nation’s highest taxes, especially on the wealthy; toughest regulations, particularly when it comes to the environment; most ambitious health care system, that insures more than 12 million poor Californians, in partnership with Medicaid; and high wages.
So according to conservative doctrine, Kansas and Texas ought to be booming, and California ought to be in the pits. Actually, it’s just the opposite. For several years, Kansas’s rate of economic growth has been the worst in the nation. Last year its economy actually shrank. Texas hasn’t been doing all that much better. Its rate of job growth has been below the national average. Retail sales are way down. The value of Texas exports has been dropping.
But what about so-called over-taxed, over-regulated, high-wage California?
California leads the nation in the rate of economic growth—more than twice the national average. If it were a separate nation it would now be the sixth largest economy in the world. Its population has surged to 39 million (up 5 percent since 2010). California is home to the nation’s fastest-growing and most innovative industries—entertainment and high tech. It incubates more startups than anywhere else in the world. In other words, conservatives have it exactly backward.
Why are Kansas and Texas doing so badly, and California so well?
For one thing, taxes enable states to invest their people. The University of California is the best system of public higher education in America. Add in the state’s network of community colleges, state colleges, research institutions, and you have an unparalleled source of research, and powerful engine of upward mobility. Kansas and Texas haven’t been investing nearly to the same extent.
California also provides services to a diverse population, including a large percentage of immigrants. Donald Trump to the contrary, such diversity is a huge plus. Both Hollywood and Silicon Valley have thrived on the ideas and energies of new immigrants. Meanwhile, California’s regulations protect the public health and the state’s natural beauty, which also draws people to the state—including talented people who could settle anywhere.
Wages are high in California because the economy is growing so fast employers have to pay more for workers. That’s not a bad thing. After all, the goal isn’t just growth. It’s a high standard of living. In fairness, Texas’s problems are also linked to the oil bust. But that’s really no excuse because Texas has failed to diversify its economy. Here again, it hasn’t made adequate investments.
California is far from perfect. A housing shortage has driven rents and home prices into the stratosphere. Roads are clogged. Its public schools used to be the best in the nation but are now among the worst—largely because of a proposition approved by voters in 1978 that’s strangled local school financing. Much more needs to be done.But overall, the contrast is clear. Economic success depends on tax revenues that go into public investments, and regulations that protect the environment and public health. And true economic success results in high wages.
I’m not sure how Trumpland and California will coexist in coming years. But so far, California gives lie to the conservative dictum that low taxes, few regulations and low wages are the keys economic success."
California rules and Florida gets fackface Rick Scott!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 12:46:20 GMT
That's some econo-nonsense if I've ever seen it. California has most of the high tech industry and movie biz, agriculture, and major tourism for industries...Kansas has? The Jayhawks? Sure, tax cuts can't invent industries. But tax hikes don't create prosperity, either. Businesses succeed in spite of regulations, they aren't inspired by government intervention.
California has a high high high cost of living, so the people that migrate there will arrive with a higher standand of living.
Where'd you get that article, Buzzfeed?
Why not end that silliness with an overture to Rick Scott. His goal is to add jobs, and he's added a million. I can give him a pass, even if I'm not crazy about the guy.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 23, 2016 14:57:46 GMT
Yah when Henry throws up an article from NYT or Politico, to prove a point, it's just fine.
When someone else uses a supposed left leaning rag, it's blasphemy!
We have had a new member of the double standard club this election cycle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 15:31:35 GMT
Yah when Henry throws up an article from NYT or Politico, to prove a point, it's just fine. When someone else uses a supposed left leaning rag, it's blasphemy! We have had a new member of the double standard club this election cycle. That article is propaganda...the real discussion is why are these newspaper outlets are using these one hit wonders like Robert Reich, Thomas Friedman or Paul Krugman to buffalo people into partisan economic views? Krugman is the worst of the bunch. Obama wants 825 billion in infrastructure-get the pom poms. Trump wants a trillion-here's why that won't work... |
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Nov 23, 2016 16:41:24 GMT
Of course it is propaganda. And pigs fly and Koch experiment is going well in Kansas plus Texas isn't a taker state.
I know!
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