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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 5, 2022 23:26:38 GMT
Some idiot fan (Philly?) threw a snowball that nearly knocked out Chuck Foreman's eye....Right after Tark there was 2-Minute Tommy Kramer...the hail marys to Ahmad Rashad back in the day. Yeah, the Vikes have had some fun players. I really liked Darren Nelson, though he wasn't big enough to be as impactful. Typical Bill Walsh kid as a receiver/runner who was super quick with good footbal IQ. Joey Browner was about as good a safety as you could find. John Randle was always fun to watch. Moss in his heyday was so good even if he was total dink. Yeah, Vikes have had some great players as well, unfortunately none of them were field goal kickers. Fuck! |
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 5, 2022 23:41:30 GMT
I used to love those Viking teams. They just ran into juggernaut AFC squads. Me too, loved them, they just couldn't get it done. I loved watching Bud Grant on the sidelines with his steel blue eyes, death stare, brushcut, ballcap, windbreaker and it was -40 at Metropolitan stadium, hahaha, and of course NO sideline heaters. I felt cold and i was inside watching it on TV. |
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Post by dannycater on Feb 6, 2022 16:32:47 GMT
Yeah, the Vikes have had some fun players. I really liked Darren Nelson, though he wasn't big enough to be as impactful. Typical Bill Walsh kid as a receiver/runner who was super quick with good footbal IQ. Joey Browner was about as good a safety as you could find. John Randle was always fun to watch. Moss in his heyday was so good even if he was total dink. Yeah, Vikes have had some great players as well, unfortunately none of them were field goal kickers. Fuck! Fred Cox, straight-footers do it the best! ![]()  |
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 6, 2022 19:42:26 GMT
Yeah, Vikes have had some great players as well, unfortunately none of them were field goal kickers. Fuck! Fred Cox, straight-footers do it the best! ![]() <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Old school baby! |
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Post by dannycater on Feb 6, 2022 20:21:34 GMT
Stenerud, Gogolak and Yepremian screwed it up for everybody...Blanda from 50 at age 48...it's good!
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 7, 2022 14:16:09 GMT
There will be people who try to take away from him. Study it all you want. Watch every play and decide it was luck, or opponent, or teammates, or circumstances. The fact is that he lead his team and they fucking won all the time. He is probably the greatest sports player in history.That's an interesting call. Lots of variables in there. In terms of sheer number of championships alone, he's got about 2/3rds the titles of Russell and Richard. I don't think you'd argue Henri was as important to those Canadiens teams as Brady to his teams, but Russell was the core of that Celtics team and like your point about Brady - pick it apart however you want, call it what you want, but he was their foundation and all they did was win. Beliveau has 10 rings, and he was the nuts for his Canadiens teams. The argument for Brady>Beliveau has to be that Brady did it against a much larger league, but the counter-argument is how diluted is the talent in that league? How many wins over the Jets does he have? DiMaggio went 9/10 in the World Series and was in that legendary MVP level of talent. Even in the NFL, pre-merger, Otto Graham had 7 titles. Jordan should probably have won 10 straight if he wasn't obsessed with baseball. Two three-peats, zero losses in the Finals. There's a good argument there. And thats in the 4 NA major team sports. Nicklaus won 18 majors and 73 tour events - Tiger Woods dominated the sport in an era where almost no one was as good as he was and he still only won 15 majors. Ali? Michael Phelps? Federer? Pele? And I always have Dana White's comment about George St Pierre being the most famous Canadian ever. Population of India, China Japan - such a huge percentage of the World - have never heard of Wayne Gretzky, but they all know who GSP is. I wonder how far the NFL has pushed into markets like that. Not that that makes any differnce to the "best" argument here. |
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 7, 2022 14:44:36 GMT
I used to love those Viking teams. They just ran into juggernaut AFC squads. Me too, loved them, they just couldn't get it done. I loved watching Bud Grant on the sidelines with his steel blue eyes, death stare, brushcut, ballcap, windbreaker and it was -40 at Metropolitan stadium, hahaha, and of course NO sideline heaters. I felt cold and i was inside watching it on TV. How about the Drew Pearson push ? Was that a great moment in Met history ? |
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Post by dannycater on Feb 7, 2022 18:33:51 GMT
Me too, loved them, they just couldn't get it done. I loved watching Bud Grant on the sidelines with his steel blue eyes, death stare, brushcut, ballcap, windbreaker and it was -40 at Metropolitan stadium, hahaha, and of course NO sideline heaters. I felt cold and i was inside watching it on TV. How about the Drew Pearson push ? Was that a great moment in Met history ? Forget about Minnesota history at home, this was a great moment in Pats history and it wasn't Brady. NFL Record 70 passes www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2019112744798819 |
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 7, 2022 19:01:33 GMT
Me too, loved them, they just couldn't get it done. I loved watching Bud Grant on the sidelines with his steel blue eyes, death stare, brushcut, ballcap, windbreaker and it was -40 at Metropolitan stadium, hahaha, and of course NO sideline heaters. I felt cold and i was inside watching it on TV. How about the Drew Pearson push ? Was that a great moment in Met history ? Fuck! How far do you want to stick the knife Dog!?? To the hilt?! Whats next, "Here's the kick...Anderson wide right"!!!, "the kick is up....and it's wide left, Walsh has missed"!!, "Marshall is going the wrong way"!!!!!, hahahahahahaha, fuck me! |
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 7, 2022 20:26:12 GMT
How about the Drew Pearson push ? Was that a great moment in Met history ? Fuck! How far do you want to stick the knife Dog!?? To the hilt?! Whats next, "Here's the kick...Anderson wide right"!!!, "the kick is up....and it's wide left, Walsh has missed"!!, "Marshall is going the wrong way"!!!!!, hahahahahahaha, fuck me! Sorry I just like discussing 70s football. |
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 7, 2022 22:16:37 GMT
Fuck! How far do you want to stick the knife Dog!?? To the hilt?! Whats next, "Here's the kick...Anderson wide right"!!!, "the kick is up....and it's wide left, Walsh has missed"!!, "Marshall is going the wrong way"!!!!!, hahahahahahaha, fuck me! Sorry I just like discussing 70s football. Hahahahaha!! |
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Post by dannycater on Feb 8, 2022 15:11:13 GMT
How about the Drew Pearson push ? Was that a great moment in Met history ? Fuck! How far do you want to stick the knife Dog!?? To the hilt?! Whats next, "Here's the kick...Anderson wide right"!!!, "the kick is up....and it's wide left, Walsh has missed"!!, "Marshall is going the wrong way"!!!!!, hahahahahahaha, fuck me! Sugar Bear Hamilton falls on Stabler 4th and 23...70s football...fuck me. Pats had a perfect trip to the Super Bowl. Finish off the cheapshot Raiders, beat a Franco Harris-Rocky Bleier LESS Steelers (both injured thus putting Frenchy Fuqua as a main back) in the AFC championship (Pittsburgh was fucked going in). Then beat the tomato can Vikings and Tark in the SB...So again I have to remind fucking idiot Raider fans who cry about the Tuck Rule game that it was reverse karma...Fuck the Raiders. Go Grogan-Mike Haynes-Sam Bam Cunningham-John Hannah-Russ Francis-Andy Apple Juice Johnson-John Smith Pats of 76. |
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 8, 2022 19:24:34 GMT
Fuck! How far do you want to stick the knife Dog!?? To the hilt?! Whats next, "Here's the kick...Anderson wide right"!!!, "the kick is up....and it's wide left, Walsh has missed"!!, "Marshall is going the wrong way"!!!!!, hahahahahahaha, fuck me! Sugar Bear Hamilton falls on Stabler 4th and 23...70s football...fuck me. Pats had a perfect trip to the Super Bowl. Finish off the cheapshot Raiders, beat a Franco Harris-Rocky Bleier LESS Steelers (both injured thus putting Frenchy Fuqua as a main back) in the AFC championship (Pittsburgh was fucked going in). Then beat the tomato can Vikings and Tark in the SB...So again I have to remind fucking idiot Raider fans who cry about the Tuck Rule game that it was reverse karma...Fuck the Raiders. Go Grogan-Mike Haynes-Sam Bam Cunningham-John Hannah-Russ Francis-Andy Apple Juice Johnson-John Smith Pats of 76. That 76 Pats team was good, real good. Shoulda been a Vikes/Pats SB i tell yah! |
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 10, 2022 0:12:13 GMT
Tough era in Boston sports losing Ortiz, Brady (twice), Chara, Krejci, and now Rask.
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Post by NAS on Feb 12, 2022 13:40:57 GMT
There will be people who try to take away from him. Study it all you want. Watch every play and decide it was luck, or opponent, or teammates, or circumstances. The fact is that he lead his team and they fucking won all the time. He is probably the greatest sports player in history.That's an interesting call. Lots of variables in there. In terms of sheer number of championships alone, he's got about 2/3rds the titles of Russell and Richard. I don't think you'd argue Henri was as important to those Canadiens teams as Brady to his teams, but Russell was the core of that Celtics team and like your point about Brady - pick it apart however you want, call it what you want, but he was their foundation and all they did was win. Beliveau has 10 rings, and he was the nuts for his Canadiens teams. The argument for Brady>Beliveau has to be that Brady did it against a much larger league, but the counter-argument is how diluted is the talent in that league? How many wins over the Jets does he have? DiMaggio went 9/10 in the World Series and was in that legendary MVP level of talent. Even in the NFL, pre-merger, Otto Graham had 7 titles. Jordan should probably have won 10 straight if he wasn't obsessed with baseball. Two three-peats, zero losses in the Finals. There's a good argument there. And thats in the 4 NA major team sports. Nicklaus won 18 majors and 73 tour events - Tiger Woods dominated the sport in an era where almost no one was as good as he was and he still only won 15 majors. Ali? Michael Phelps? Federer? Pele? And I always have Dana White's comment about George St Pierre being the most famous Canadian ever. Population of India, China Japan - such a huge percentage of the World - have never heard of Wayne Gretzky, but they all know who GSP is. I wonder how far the NFL has pushed into markets like that. Not that that makes any differnce to the "best" argument here.
The hockey and basketball guys from the 50s and 60s didn't have enough competition. While the talent may be diluted, Brady's teammates were as well. Also, there is no player in either of those sports that can take as much credit for a win as an NFL QB. Nicklaus and Tiger competed against themselves. Phelps and Ali didn't compete enough. I have no knowledge of Federer or Pele's dominance.
(I don't think Jordan was obsessed with baseball. My unsubstantiated theory is that he got in trouble for gambling and was suspended. To save the league from that level of embarrassment, they came up with the baseball idea.) Jordan was awesome, but not for as long as Brady was.
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Post by Fletcher on Feb 12, 2022 16:02:05 GMT
Elway - 5 (2-3). How would you like to be Cornelius Bennett and go 0-fer in 5 Bowls? If Elway had the offensive line and running game he had in the late 90s during the late 80s. I think the Broncos would have had the Niners dynasty. Late 90s Broncos Oline was insane. I remember that too. Simple handoffs to Terrell Davis and he would be 7 yards past the line of scrimmage before meeting the first would-be tackler. |
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Post by Better Call Saul on Oct 16, 2022 18:44:40 GMT
This kid Zappe is a good little QB. Like his style.
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 17, 2022 13:24:42 GMT
There are a handful of players I've seen over the years who would make you stare at the screen as they did the same damn thing in the most meaningful moments, over and over and over, and it seemed like no one could stop them. You knew what was coming, you knew exactly what they would want to do, and you still couldn't stop it. You'd watch Gretzky set up behind the net, find a guy, pucks in the net, and you'd wonder how the hell the defense let him take that spot and set up that play. Brady would throw pass after pass under 2 min to a Welker or Gronk or Edelman or Coates or Brown or Branch, or check downs to backs, and most of the passes would hit between the hash marks or just outside of them. No 40 yard passes to the far boundary to gain six yards. And you think "isn't that where you have the most guys to prevent those passes?" How are these guys always open, for the right number of yards? Over and over, marching down the field.... It looked like any idiot should be able to figure out how to stop it, but the timing and the accuracy of the passes was just unstoppable over and over and over. You can't stop a perfect pass (well, Deion Sanders playing man to man on, say, nite as the wide receiver...no pass is perfect enough). I hated the tuck rule. I hate the way the Falcons and Pete Carroll buffed his record in the Super Bowl by snatching failure from the jaws of victory. But no one did what he did better, and even at 400 or however old he is now, it took another amazing play by a WR who is having possibly the best season by a WR in league history to knock him out (doesn't happen if Talib is still out there for the Bucs). I am 100% sure that he will enjoy spending his ridiculous amount of money and I hope he has a hot wife. I didn't like the offensive game plan, conservative playcalling of the Perfect Season SB, I think he played well enough to win the 2nd Giants encounter, he only passed in a game that had more total yards by 2 teams in NFL history in the SB loss to Philly. So I think the Seattle the Butler Did It and 28-3 more than make up for those 3. I didn't think the Giants deserved the 2nd win, I'll give them credit for the first one, but still no imagination by Pats offense after all year long having a blast going on 4th downs and trying to run up scores. Then conservative because they were afraid. Makes no sense. I don't think those things cancel out. One is your opponent does something or things that are indescribably stupid when they have the game won - they had the chance to closet he door on any heroics and didn't. The other is your team bites the biscuit. I get the idea that it's not Brady's fault they called too conservative a game...but on play calling, it still is kinda. Unless he was out there with the short yardage package all the time, I have no doubt he could have called any audible he wanted if he saw something there. He didn't. He should have lost two SBs he won if a potato had been coaching the falcons or seahawks. Shanahan and Carroll blew it. |
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 17, 2022 13:32:48 GMT
This kid Zappe is a good little QB. Like his style. I thought this was being resurrected to talk about Brady losing head to head against Mitch Trewbisky and Kenny Pickett. Brady is starting to look like a lot of classic mid QBs. Completes 5/8ths of his passes, no picks, 1 TD, but only 243 yards on 40 attempts. So the stats look like a solid veteran day, but the reflect a lot of moving the ball where it's easy and not a lot of success when it gets harder - in the redzone, down the field in long yardage situations etc.. He's still better than Manning was in his final season, but it's coming. I think he will look back on this season - and I don't think the Bucs make the playoffs - and think it was a mistake to come back both professionally and personally when he sees what his divorce will cost him. |
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 17, 2022 13:36:45 GMT
This kid Zappe is a good little QB. Like his style. Bill should have a big smile on his face after the Pats next full practice. We knkw he loves his press conferences. NEs youngins are doing well. |
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Post by dannycater on Oct 17, 2022 13:40:08 GMT
Zappe Days Are Here Again...Don't Worry, Be Zappe..Zappe Hour...Zappe, Zappe, Joy, Joy.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 17, 2022 15:58:43 GMT
Zappe Days Are Here Again...Don't Worry, Be Zappe..Zappe Hour...Zappe, Zappe, Joy, Joy. LoL |
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