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Post by kelvana33 on Nov 5, 2022 3:54:53 GMT
Daring someone into a situation where they could have died is excusable I your world, but wiping a lolly pop on a urinal cake and tricking a mentally challenged kid to lick is the path to being Jeffrey Dahmer? Are you all there? No. You are WAY understating what happened. By a country mile. Read about the case again, and not just glance over it. Once you've really and honestly read it, let me know if you still have the same opinion. What if he did that to one of your daughters? What would you say then? I’m not justifying his actions. They are horrible, but does he never get a chance to make a living?
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2022 4:02:50 GMT
What is the appropriate price for his actions? Not sure, but it went to court,admitted his guilt,he was kicked out of college, had the team that drafted him release him and didn’t play for a year. it’s been almost 7 years, has there been any behavior issues with him since? And no, you have more facts wrong, there was an incident at age 16 AFTER he went to court.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2022 4:03:57 GMT
No. You are WAY understating what happened. By a country mile. Read about the case again, and not just glance over it. Once you've really and honestly read it, let me know if you still have the same opinion. What if he did that to one of your daughters? What would you say then? I’m not justifying his actions. They are horrible, but does he never get a chance to make a living? Make a living? You do realize that there are other professions other than hockey.
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Post by kelvana33 on Nov 5, 2022 4:06:53 GMT
Not sure, but it went to court,admitted his guilt,he was kicked out of college, had the team that drafted him release him and didn’t play for a year. it’s been almost 7 years, has there been any behavior issues with him since? And no, you have more facts wrong, there was an incident at age 16 AFTER he went to court. What facts did I post that were wrong?
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2022 4:20:20 GMT
Do you people understand He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on it I will say it again, maybe you might hear it this time. He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itHe forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itAnd you think this is excusable because was 14?Do you honestly think this was simply immaturity?Do you honestly think this was anywhere near a "typical" adolescent prank?Teenagers do wilding type shit, typically spontaneously, even more typically to impress their friends. This wasn't spontaneous, clearly it was premeditated, and most importantly it is WAY OUTSIDE the norm.
This is a defective person we're talking about, this is a lifelong psychiatrist person and if you don't see that you're blind or you are in denial of reality. And yes, I was a bad kid at that age, daring each other into situations where someone could have died, teenage drinking and doing all sorts of criminal mischief, that's teenage wilding, this kid wasn't drunk, it was preplanned and it was NOT 'daredevil' shit. Read the backgrounds of serial killers and you see this type of shit along with animal cruelty. Daring someone into a situation where they could have died is excusable I your world, but wiping a lolly pop on a urinal cake and tricking a mentally challenged kid to lick is the path to being Jeffrey Dahmer? Are you all there? bowiestate.libguides.com/CRJU410-001/serialkillersaschildren2 points from that article. 1. Antisocial Behavior Psychopaths have a strong tendency towards antisocial behavior, so watch for extremely antisocial children. 3. Torturing Small Animals This is one of the strongest warning signs. Children who torture or kill small animals like squirrels, birds, cats, and dogs without showing remorse are highly likely to be sociopaths. Many serial killers kill to control others’ lives, and as children, small animals are the only lives they have the power to control. Cannibalistic serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer would bike around the woods as a child, collecting dead animals to dissect. Dahmer even killed and dismembered his own puppy, mounting its head on a stake when he was done. Small animal = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. autistic developmentally challenged person = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. Since you didn't answer about what if he did that to one of your daughters - how about this question, how would you feel about him staying at your house or being your next door neighbor? Wouldn't think twice about it, right?
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2022 4:29:05 GMT
And no, you have more facts wrong, there was an incident at age 16 AFTER he went to court. What facts did I post that were wrong? He was 16 at the time of the last abuse, that's 4 years ago, not 7. They didn't just touch the candy to a urinal cake, they actually pissed on it. And something else, he was fucking stupid enough to have some of the abuse caught on camera. OK, fuck it, you're totally blind to his having a screw loose. Fine. Riddle me this batman, give me a HOCKEY reason to sign this kid. How about all those highlight videos on youtube? All fucking ONE of them. He looks big in that one highlight clip on youtube, then again he's 20 and there are 2 15 year olds on the team.
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Post by kelvana33 on Nov 5, 2022 4:38:31 GMT
Daring someone into a situation where they could have died is excusable I your world, but wiping a lolly pop on a urinal cake and tricking a mentally challenged kid to lick is the path to being Jeffrey Dahmer? Are you all there? bowiestate.libguides.com/CRJU410-001/serialkillersaschildren2 points from that article. 1. Antisocial Behavior Psychopaths have a strong tendency towards antisocial behavior, so watch for extremely antisocial children. 3. Torturing Small Animals This is one of the strongest warning signs. Children who torture or kill small animals like squirrels, birds, cats, and dogs without showing remorse are highly likely to be sociopaths. Many serial killers kill to control others’ lives, and as children, small animals are the only lives they have the power to control. Cannibalistic serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer would bike around the woods as a child, collecting dead animals to dissect. Dahmer even killed and dismembered his own puppy, mounting its head on a stake when he was done. Small animal = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. autistic developmentally challenged person = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. Since you didn't answer about what if he did that to one of your daughters - how about this question, how would you feel about him staying at your house or being your next door neighbor? Wouldn't think twice about it, right? I would not want Jeffrey Dahmer living next to me. The smell alone would drive me crazy, and I wouldn’t let him near any of my four daughters. Not sure I’d take the right to earn a living away from the 14 year old asshole who tricked a black disabled kid into licking a lolly pop he wiped on a urinal cake while calling him racial slurs. If he’s bullying any of my daughters near urinals, or staling my cat, then I as a father dropped the ball..
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2022 4:44:15 GMT
bowiestate.libguides.com/CRJU410-001/serialkillersaschildren2 points from that article. 1. Antisocial Behavior Psychopaths have a strong tendency towards antisocial behavior, so watch for extremely antisocial children. 3. Torturing Small Animals This is one of the strongest warning signs. Children who torture or kill small animals like squirrels, birds, cats, and dogs without showing remorse are highly likely to be sociopaths. Many serial killers kill to control others’ lives, and as children, small animals are the only lives they have the power to control. Cannibalistic serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer would bike around the woods as a child, collecting dead animals to dissect. Dahmer even killed and dismembered his own puppy, mounting its head on a stake when he was done. Small animal = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. autistic developmentally challenged person = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. Since you didn't answer about what if he did that to one of your daughters - how about this question, how would you feel about him staying at your house or being your next door neighbor? Wouldn't think twice about it, right? I would not want Jeffrey Dahmer living next to me. The smell alone would drive me crazy, and I wouldn’t let him near any of my four daughters. Not sure I’d take the right to earn a living away from the 14 year old asshole who tricked a black disabled kid into licking a lolly pop he wiped on a urinal cake while calling him racial slurs. If he’s bullying any of my daughters near urinals, or staling my cat, then I as a father dropped the ball.. Screw it, get serious and tell me why this kid? I just spent about 10 minutes searching out the most interesting undrafted players and found at least 10 - all just 18 and could have some upside. This kid doesn't appear to have anything. In the one clip out there of him, he's classic over-ager, at 5-10 he looks bigger than everyone else and the goals are just because he overpowered the goaler with a stronger shot than the others. I'm going to see this kid play tonight if he suits up for Providence.
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Post by The OC on Nov 5, 2022 5:44:29 GMT
Reading all this and wasn't planning on commenting much if at all, but honest question for you all... What the kid did and and the surrounding circumstances is no doubt cruel and fucked up.. But is it really that uncommon? Have any of you guys been close to anything of this sort when you were kids? Back in high school my buddy had a, party for mostly the football team and some of the older kids tricked my buddy into drinking a glass of piss. Race and mental issues were not a factor, but it was still a person tricking a person to do something nasty. Thirtyish years ago, different times, but everyone knew about it and nobody cared. Back to my question for you all.. Have you been close to or seen stuff like this happen when you were all punk ass kids? And yeah, I get it... I'm not underplaying the situation.. the race factor and the disabled factor add a new level of fucked up to it. I knew a guy. He fed mud pies to a severely handicapped kid. He was suspended for a day or two. Later he was banned from hockey for a year in a stick swinging incident. Later still, when he was 19 or 20, he rounded up a group of high school kids to terrorize the town on Halloween, smashing the school and doing a tonne of damage. He got in big trouble for that, I have no idea what happened later in his life. I don't know if he was genuinely that bad, I used to talk to him. He was nice to me. He had father issues. God knows what else. Life is complicated. I know another guy. Probably the second-most unstable kid I played hockey with after exhibit A above. He was bad. Later in life he got so bad he went to jail, not sure what for. After he got out at some point he went totally clean. Won't even touch beer. Got a super smokin hot wife and made 4 babies. Dad of the year. Started a construction company and is loaded. Case A reminds me a lot of Miller, so if I were Donnie I'd be nervous about bringing in a person who harmed a disabled kid. Big red flag. But, I know a number of people who were messed up, bullies, etc, that got their life together later and became good people. You don't know what people are going through. Who's getting beaten. Who's getting fondled by Uncle Steve. Who just has bad role models. Everyone is so judgy these days. "OMG he said the N-word!!!" Fuck off with that. Not because it isn't awful, but it would be hard for me to make a list of people I know that haven't said or done something racist, mean, sexist, stupid. I like to think I'm not one of those people, but Pobodey's Nerfect. I feel like, especially on Social Media, people love to pile on someone caught doing something wrong because they want to distance themselves from their own flaws. I'm surprised the Bruins took a chance on this guy. According to Donnie, they have been working on it for over a year, talking with him, evaluating the situation. Other teams were too. They are going to take heat. Being honest, i don't like the player. I suspect he's a lousy person, and he has a face just begging to be punched. But I also hate the modern trend of never forgiving. We have a legal system. Miller was convicted, he served his sentence. Our legal system doesn't say you can never play in the NHL if you dropped an N-bomb, and it doesn't say you can't pursue your dreams if fed a handicapped kid a piss sucker. Should it? If you think it should, I hope you don't have any nasty skeletons. It's interesting that the majority on this poll say no forgiveness, but if life taught me something I'd guess the majority of respondents have said or done something racist or otherwise lousy in their life if they are being honest.
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Post by NAS on Nov 5, 2022 7:04:01 GMT
As much as I remain hard no on this because there is almost no chance I would ever cheer for this guy as a Bruin - some kind of Christmas miracle would have to happen - I am reminded that Guy Lapointe once pissed in Steve Shutt‘s can of Coke if you believe Dryden in The Game. And I have to wonder what the fuck. Lapointe and Shutt were adults and that's one dude fucking with another.
Picking on a slow kid, that alone, puts Miller in the eternal gutter for me.
Being a pro sports player is one of the highest honors in the land, the world. You don't get to reach that height if you're a full blown cunt. I am 100% against this signing. Cheering for someone like this is unacceptable. The fans at the Garden rising to their feet and going wild for him is stomach turning.
Christian Peter 2.0 for Boston sports.
And for what? What do they gain from this? A few extras in the W column maybe? Terrible. I hope they realize this is a bad decision and pay the douche to go away. I will never cheer for a team with him on the roster. I swear to God I'll buy Habs gear if this guy hits the ice with a Boston Bruins jersey on.
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Post by NAS on Nov 5, 2022 7:05:24 GMT
No. You are WAY understating what happened. By a country mile. Read about the case again, and not just glance over it. Once you've really and honestly read it, let me know if you still have the same opinion. What if he did that to one of your daughters? What would you say then? I’m not justifying his actions. They are horrible, but does he never get a chance to make a living? He can work. He just can't work for a company that is based on community fabric. And the B's don't need him. I'd sooner see them finish last for a decade than earn one extra win on this guy's back.
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Post by MrHulot on Nov 5, 2022 9:33:16 GMT
Police Report from Mitchell Miller Bullying Case
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Post by pletchner on Nov 5, 2022 12:06:29 GMT
Do you people understand He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on it I will say it again, maybe you might hear it this time. He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itHe forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itAnd you think this is excusable because was 14?Do you honestly think this was simply immaturity?Do you honestly think this was anywhere near a "typical" adolescent prank?Teenagers do wilding type shit, typically spontaneously, even more typically to impress their friends. This wasn't spontaneous, clearly it was premeditated, and most importantly it is WAY OUTSIDE the norm.
This is a defective person we're talking about, this is a lifelong psychiatrist person and if you don't see that you're blind or you are in denial of reality. And yes, I was a bad kid at that age, daring each other into situations where someone could have died, teenage drinking and doing all sorts of criminal mischief, that's teenage wilding, this kid wasn't drunk, it was preplanned and it was NOT 'daredevil' shit. Read the backgrounds of serial killers and you see this type of shit along with animal cruelty. It's not excusable. It's not an innocent prank. It's a shameful, disgusting thing to have done. So is the pattern of bullying that went along with it. But doing something really awful at age 14 shouldn't disqualify him from pursuing his life - even his dreams. And if the Bs did any due diligence, which I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt they did, they should have an idea of whether he's still the kind of person who would do that kind of crap. He's on a short leash. I'm willing to see if he can be a decent human being, and maybe play some hockey in the process. But if he even tugs on that leash, buh bye.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Nov 5, 2022 12:57:06 GMT
Police Report from Mitchell Miller Bullying Case
Great find!
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:03:08 GMT
bowiestate.libguides.com/CRJU410-001/serialkillersaschildren2 points from that article. 1. Antisocial Behavior Psychopaths have a strong tendency towards antisocial behavior, so watch for extremely antisocial children. 3. Torturing Small Animals This is one of the strongest warning signs. Children who torture or kill small animals like squirrels, birds, cats, and dogs without showing remorse are highly likely to be sociopaths. Many serial killers kill to control others’ lives, and as children, small animals are the only lives they have the power to control. Cannibalistic serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer would bike around the woods as a child, collecting dead animals to dissect. Dahmer even killed and dismembered his own puppy, mounting its head on a stake when he was done. Small animal = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. autistic developmentally challenged person = pretty helpless, not able to defend themselves. Since you didn't answer about what if he did that to one of your daughters - how about this question, how would you feel about him staying at your house or being your next door neighbor? Wouldn't think twice about it, right? I would not want Jeffrey Dahmer living next to me. The smell alone would drive me crazy, and I wouldn’t let him near any of my four daughters. Not sure I’d take the right to earn a living away from the 14 year old asshole who tricked a black disabled kid into licking a lolly pop he wiped on a urinal cake while calling him racial slurs. If he’s bullying any of my daughters near urinals, or staling my cat, then I as a father dropped the ball.. This isn’t “taking a living away”. The kid is free to go earn his living in a dozen other ways, and he should be. This is about letting him play professional hockey. About giving him a shot at the kind of money that people often use to cover up being an asshole. The league has a standard of conduct that can be used to cancel a olayer contract. If this kid had been under contract and did the same thing now (adjust all ages in the incident), he’d be out of the league. Bye. Give Voynov a call and see how that goes. This happens in industries all over the place and in oublic sector jobs. There are likely going to be cops in Ottawa who lose their jobs because they put their own political beliefs ahead of their duties while on duty. Guys who are contractors or work for contractors have a harder time getting work if they aren’t bonded. Paying a price all over the economy means having to work harder and seeing some of the prime options where we would all like those jobs taken off the table. The guys who get them back in the table earn them back. No one just makes some decision to give them a second chance before they have done sweet bugger all to show they have changed. That whole factor of earning a second chance is totally absent here. The family of the kid he bullied says he only just apologized and did it over instagram? To me that sounds like he was coerced. If this was him giving consent to sign over 50% of his pay to his uncle Scotty or something, I‘m going to guess it doesn’t hold up in court. Bruins told him he had to apologize so he did. Sweeney was asked the question in the press conference. He looked damn cagey saying that yes the news release did state that he’d apologized. That they have been in recent contact. He sounded like a guy coached to be in court on the limits of what he could say. So the whole ‘make a living’ thing and ‘paid a price’ thing just don’t hold here. I do believe in those things but draw a hard line between a second chance meaning exactly the same opportunity as if you had never fucked up and giving that chance rather than someone earning it with their actions.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:16:22 GMT
As much as I remain hard no on this because there is almost no chance I would ever cheer for this guy as a Bruin - some kind of Christmas miracle would have to happen - I am reminded that Guy Lapointe once pissed in Steve Shutt‘s can of Coke if you believe Dryden in The Game. And I have to wonder what the fuck. Lapointe and Shutt were adults and that's one dude fucking with another.
Picking on a slow kid, that alone, puts Miller in the eternal gutter for me.
Being a pro sports player is one of the highest honors in the land, the world. You don't get to reach that height if you're a full blown cunt. I am 100% against this signing. Cheering for someone like this is unacceptable. The fans at the Garden rising to their feet and going wild for him is stomach turning.
Christian Peter 2.0 for Boston sports.
And for what? What do they gain from this? A few extras in the W column maybe? Terrible. I hope they realize this is a bad decision and pay the douche to go away. I will never cheer for a team with him on the roster. I swear to God I'll buy Habs gear if this guy hits the ice with a Boston Bruins jersey on.
To be clear, the Shutt thing was more a reflection of the impact of those grown men thinking that pissing in someone’s coke is funny locker room stuff. Very different but the kind of thing that plays into where did this kid get that kind of idea.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:18:49 GMT
I’m not justifying his actions. They are horrible, but does he never get a chance to make a living? He can work. He just can't work for a company that is based on community fabric. And the B's don't need him. I'd sooner see them finish last for a decade than earn one extra win on this guy's back. That’s a good point. If you are a Bostonian, do you want this guy representing your city? I mean, I can decide not to watch and definitely not spend money to support the team, but whether you like it or not, there’s a chance he goes out there with the spiked B on his chest.
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Post by moognoates on Nov 5, 2022 13:19:40 GMT
So fucking stupid we are taking about this during such an amazing start to the season. Such an unessessary move by Sweeney. Definition of High Risk, Low reward
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Post by islamorada on Nov 5, 2022 13:27:43 GMT
Reading all this and wasn't planning on commenting much if at all, but honest question for you all... What the kid did and and the surrounding circumstances is no doubt cruel and fucked up.. But is it really that uncommon? Have any of you guys been close to anything of this sort when you were kids? Back in high school my buddy had a, party for mostly the football team and some of the older kids tricked my buddy into drinking a glass of piss. Race and mental issues were not a factor, but it was still a person tricking a person to do something nasty. Thirtyish years ago, different times, but everyone knew about it and nobody cared. Back to my question for you all.. Have you been close to or seen stuff like this happen when you were all punk ass kids? And yeah, I get it... I'm not underplaying the situation.. the race factor and the disabled factor add a new level of fucked up to it. I knew a guy. He fed mud pies to a severely handicapped kid. He was suspended for a day or two. Later he was banned from hockey for a year in a stick swinging incident. Later still, when he was 19 or 20, he rounded up a group of high school kids to terrorize the town on Halloween, smashing the school and doing a tonne of damage. He got in big trouble for that, I have no idea what happened later in his life. I don't know if he was genuinely that bad, I used to talk to him. He was nice to me. He had father issues. God knows what else. Life is complicated. I know another guy. Probably the second-most unstable kid I played hockey with after exhibit A above. He was bad. Later in life he got so bad he went to jail, not sure what for. After he got out at some point he went totally clean. Won't even touch beer. Got a super smokin hot wife and made 4 babies. Dad of the year. Started a construction company and is loaded. Case A reminds me a lot of Miller, so if I were Donnie I'd be nervous about bringing in a person who harmed a disabled kid. Big red flag. But, I know a number of people who were messed up, bullies, etc, that got their life together later and became good people. You don't know what people are going through. Who's getting beaten. Who's getting fondled by Uncle Steve. Who just has bad role models. Everyone is so judgy these days. "OMG he said the N-word!!!" Fuck off with that. Not because it isn't awful, but it would be hard for me to make a list of people I know that haven't said or done something racist, mean, sexist, stupid. I like to think I'm not one of those people, but Pobodey's Nerfect. I feel like, especially on Social Media, people love to pile on someone caught doing something wrong because they want to distance themselves from their own flaws. I'm surprised the Bruins took a chance on this guy. According to Donnie, they have been working on it for over a year, talking with him, evaluating the situation. Other teams were too. They are going to take heat. Being honest, i don't like the player. I suspect he's a lousy person, and he has a face just begging to be punched. But I also hate the modern trend of never forgiving. We have a legal system. Miller was convicted, he served his sentence. Our legal system doesn't say you can never play in the NHL if you dropped an N-bomb, and it doesn't say you can't pursue your dreams if fed a handicapped kid a piss sucker. Should it? If you think it should, I hope you don't have any nasty skeletons. It's interesting that the majority on this poll say no forgiveness, but if life taught me something I'd guess the majority of respondents have said or done something racist or otherwise lousy in their life if they are being honest. This basically sums up my point of view. I sincerely distrust his intentions, but I do not know what kind of therapy process he has gone through. I would assume Bs management has access to that private information. To insinuate any of the posters are not sensitive to the victim is not true.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:40:17 GMT
Do you people understand He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on it I will say it again, maybe you might hear it this time. He forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itHe forced a mentally underdeveloped black kid to eat candy that he and another kid put in a public urinal and pissed on itAnd you think this is excusable because was 14?Do you honestly think this was simply immaturity?Do you honestly think this was anywhere near a "typical" adolescent prank?Teenagers do wilding type shit, typically spontaneously, even more typically to impress their friends. This wasn't spontaneous, clearly it was premeditated, and most importantly it is WAY OUTSIDE the norm.
This is a defective person we're talking about, this is a lifelong psychiatrist person and if you don't see that you're blind or you are in denial of reality. And yes, I was a bad kid at that age, daring each other into situations where someone could have died, teenage drinking and doing all sorts of criminal mischief, that's teenage wilding, this kid wasn't drunk, it was preplanned and it was NOT 'daredevil' shit. Read the backgrounds of serial killers and you see this type of shit along with animal cruelty. It's not excusable. It's not an innocent prank. It's a shameful, disgusting thing to have done. So is the pattern of bullying that went along with it. But doing something really awful at age 14 shouldn't disqualify him from pursuing his life - even his dreams. And if the Bs did any due diligence, which I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt they did, they should have an idea of whether he's still the kind of person who would do that kind of crap. He's on a short leash. I'm willing to see if he can be a decent human being, and maybe play some hockey in the process. But if he even tugs on that leash, buh bye. See, this is where we differ. I do not trust the Bruins to have done due diligence because neither they nor anyone has said that this kid did one single thing of his own volition to make amends or change himself from the kind of piece of shit he was at 14 or 16. Nothing. Not even apologize directly. Now reading the police reports, I see his parents are the kind of shitbirds who tried to save his ass by calling Isaiah’s parents and threatening to have him arrested if they got so much as the smallest justification. What due diligence did they do? Talk to him for a year to see if he could eventually figure out what they wanted to hear? They didn’t put him in community programs for the past year and then sign him based on his performance in those programs. They gave him a commitment to at minimum over half a million dollars. He will get a cheque from the Boston Bruins for $92,500 for two more years and $85K in salary for three years. Well over half a mil. Make a living indeed. And he’ll get that if he sucks balls as a hockey player. So again, what I see is a kid who fucked up, had a long pattern of being a piece of shit, who has shit for parents who want to excuse his behaviour, who has done nothing of his own volition to earn a second chance other than still be a B prospect in terms of talent, getting half a million dollars for the Boston Bruins potential for nothing. Why?
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Post by pletchner on Nov 5, 2022 13:41:41 GMT
So fucking stupid we are taking about this during such an amazing start to the season. Such an unessessary move by Sweeney. Definition of High Risk, Low reward That part seems true. Again, I can only trust that the Bs a) did their due diligence in assessing what kind of a person he is now, and b) believe the kid is good enough to make the heat they are taking now worth it. I'm certainly not excited by this signing, and I'm not one to complain about cancel culture. I also have my suspicions in reading the police report that Miller, via his parents, is an entitled prick. I certainly wouldn't have had a problem if the Bs had passed on him. But I'm not ready to condemn this kid for life. Yet.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:42:29 GMT
So fucking stupid we are taking about this during such an amazing start to the season. Such an unessessary move by Sweeney. Definition of High Risk, Low reward This time a thousand. I hate that we are discussing this in game day for a game against the Laffs. I am seriously considering not watching the game as much as I love the idea of the red hot Bruins adding fuel to the Toronto tire fire. I don’t want to have to sit through all of the Toronto media scrutiny and discussion of this and frankly, I just don’t feel very well disposed To the team right now.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:45:31 GMT
So fucking stupid we are taking about this during such an amazing start to the season. Such an unessessary move by Sweeney. Definition of High Risk, Low reward That part seems true. Again, I can only trust that the Bs a) did their due diligence in assessing what kind of a person he is now, and b) believe the kid is good enough to make the heat they are taking now worth it. I'm certainly not excited by this signing, and I'm not one to complain about cancel culture. I also have my suspicions in reading the police report that Miller, via his parents, is an entitled prick. I certainly wouldn't have had a problem if the Bs had passed on him. But I'm not ready to condemn this kid for life. Yet. There are few people I would condemn FOR LIFE because people can do the work to change. There is zero evidence he has done any work but there’s some evidence he has been sheltered by parents who don’t think he should have been punished at all. The players - Boston Bruin players - questioned this move. That’s extreme.
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Post by pletchner on Nov 5, 2022 13:46:20 GMT
It's not excusable. It's not an innocent prank. It's a shameful, disgusting thing to have done. So is the pattern of bullying that went along with it. But doing something really awful at age 14 shouldn't disqualify him from pursuing his life - even his dreams. And if the Bs did any due diligence, which I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt they did, they should have an idea of whether he's still the kind of person who would do that kind of crap. He's on a short leash. I'm willing to see if he can be a decent human being, and maybe play some hockey in the process. But if he even tugs on that leash, buh bye. See, this is where we differ. I do not trust the Bruins to have done due diligence because neither they nor anyone has said that this kid did one single thing of his own volition to make amends or change himself from the kind of piece of shit he was at 14 or 16. Nothing. Not even apologize directly. Now reading the police reports, I see his parents are the kind of shitbirds who tried to save his ass by calling Isaiah’s parents and threatening to have him arrested if they got so much as the smallest justification. What due diligence did they do? Talk to him for a year to see if he could eventually figure out what they wanted to hear? They didn’t put him in community programs for the past year and then sign him based on his performance in those programs. They gave him a commitment to at minimum over half a million dollars. He will get a cheque from the Boston Bruins for $92,500 for two more years and $85K in salary for three years. Well over half a mil. Make a living indeed. And he’ll get that if he sucks balls as a hockey player. So again, what I see is a kid who fucked up, had a long pattern of being a piece of shit, who has shit for parents who want to excuse his behaviour, who has done nothing of his own volition to earn a second chance other than still be a B prospect in terms of talent, getting half a million dollars for the Boston Bruins potential for nothing. Why? So you assume bad motives, while I give the Bs the benefit of the doubt. Fair enough. You may well be right. But I'd also assume that it's pretty clear to him how his morals clause works. That $ isn't necessarily guaranteed.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2022 13:49:04 GMT
I am honestly just waiting to hear what the real motivation is here. Who is he related to? Whose friend is his dad’s lawyer’s golf buddy? There is just zero reason for the Boston Bruins to do this from either a reputational perspective or a hockey perspective. So there must be something else that tipped the scale.
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