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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 14:41:48 GMT
The good part of Fredric is he scored 17 last year ES and at times taking outstanding shots/scoring chances created...the bad part is his 9 playoff games have been less than stellar or worse completely terrible...0 points. Two head coaches felt it necessary to healthy scratch him in 2 straight playoff seasons. Is he the reg. season guy, or is he the won't show up in playoffs, not reliable even by coach standards. Sorry, hate the signing. Where is the enforcer/fighter guy? What happened to him?
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 1, 2023 14:46:30 GMT
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Post by drewski6 on Aug 1, 2023 14:48:16 GMT
I dont hate the deal. Playoff production is a small sample size, and just because he could not crack the roster when he was younger, doesnt mean he cant going forward.
Best part about it is that its 2 years. If he continues to improve this year , it could be a bargain contract for next.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 1, 2023 14:48:57 GMT
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 1, 2023 14:51:38 GMT
Perfect time for TFreds numbers to go up with more icetime.
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Post by fp8774 on Aug 1, 2023 15:40:38 GMT
Perfect time for TFreds numbers to go up with more icetime. Perfect time for TFred to be moved out the door to acquire a player that can actually play the tough in your face ahole role that he has proven time and time again that he is not capable of playing. The project is over move on.
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Post by wayne on Aug 1, 2023 17:15:30 GMT
Good deal Freddy comes in cheap at the expense of going to UFA. 17 goals in 12 ES minutes. We can dump Ian Mitchell to get Swayman in
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Post by moognoates on Aug 1, 2023 17:35:50 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year.
If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility.
Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty.
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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 17:41:04 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year. If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility. Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty. He has disappeared at crucial times thus far in his career. That's my problem with him.
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Post by The OC on Aug 1, 2023 17:42:40 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year. If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility. Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty. I wouldn't dump him, and I don't think he's a "third liner max". He would definitely score more with more minutes, and he has a good all-around game. I think his role will grow this year with the Bruins, or he will be involved in a trade for a legit #1C and his role will grow with his new team. Either way he's a good asset.
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Post by wayne on Aug 1, 2023 17:45:55 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year. If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility. Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty. I dont think Looch is going to be a factor. He wasnt the most consistent player in his prime. Freddy should have started. Monty made bad personel choices in the playoffs and we lost. Freddy is likely always going to be a tweener someone who doesnt put it all together but 15-20 goals at 12 minutes +/- for 2.3 million is great value
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 1, 2023 18:33:33 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year. If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility. Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty. "good one that has wing/center flexibility." Why I keep TFred. If it doesn't work it's not a terrible contract to move. He's easily a great 4th line player. Still think Frederic is trending up.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 1, 2023 18:37:46 GMT
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Post by moognoates on Aug 1, 2023 18:46:51 GMT
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Post by moognoates on Aug 1, 2023 18:47:52 GMT
Wonder what the strategy of B's choosing 1 yr over 2. He isn't going to get cheaper, would think they would take another year of cost certainty.
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Post by brewwins on Aug 1, 2023 18:58:34 GMT
Wonder what the strategy of B's choosing 1 yr over 2. He isn't going to get cheaper, would think they would take another year of cost certainty. He'll be traded.
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Post by moognoates on Aug 1, 2023 19:05:02 GMT
Wonder what the strategy of B's choosing 1 yr over 2. He isn't going to get cheaper, would think they would take another year of cost certainty. He'll be traded. Same point, receiving team would rather he be signed next year than having to sign him for a higher amount.
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Post by wayne on Aug 1, 2023 19:37:31 GMT
Wonder what the strategy of B's choosing 1 yr over 2. He isn't going to get cheaper, would think they would take another year of cost certainty. seems strange to me as well
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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 19:41:53 GMT
Say good bye to Gryz/Sway, might be sooner than later
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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 19:43:20 GMT
You people confuse me. T.Freddy is a 3rd liner max. For a team that appears desperate for goals, so many want to dump a guy that scored 17 goals last year. If he could do everything you are wanting to see he'd be a top-6 power forward making 9 mil per. That is not who he is. Teams need bottom 6 players too and I think he is a good one that has wing/center flexibility. Maybe instead of that his ceiling, maybe he is still trending up. Maybe playing with Looch will help him find more consistent nasty. "good one that has wing/center flexibility." Why I keep TFred. If it doesn't work it's not a terrible contract to move. He's easily a great 4th line player. Still think Frederic is trending up. Everyone thinks he is trending up...he better fucking do it then because it seemed like he dropped out of sight by playoff time.
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Post by wayne on Aug 1, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
Lauko-Zacha-Pastrnak Marchand-Coyle-DeBrusk Frederic-Geekie-JVR Lucic-Boqvist-Greer Brown
Grizz-McAvoy Lindholm-Carlo Forbort-Shattenkirk Zboril
Ullmark Swayman
22 man roster with $416,000 in wiggle room. Merkulov/Lysell/Beecher/McLuaghlin/etc can still push for a spot
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Post by moognoates on Aug 1, 2023 19:58:31 GMT
Wonder what the strategy of B's choosing 1 yr over 2. He isn't going to get cheaper, would think they would take another year of cost certainty. seems strange to me as well Only thought is they want to sign himto a multi year deal next year that would be cheaper than doing it the following season.
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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 20:09:53 GMT
B's either will trade Ullmark or Swayman...I can't see them holding on to both for the salary the 2 have right now. But who knows with the B's and how they look at it.
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Post by wayne on Aug 1, 2023 20:11:09 GMT
seems strange to me as well Only thought is they want to sign himto a multi year deal next year that would be cheaper than doing it the following season. Yeah because he'll still be a RFA instead of a UFA I guess?
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Post by dannycater on Aug 1, 2023 20:12:57 GMT
If the B's plan was to keep Sway over Ullmark, then he would have been signed for 2 years...that's how I see it.
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