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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 11:51:53 GMT
We've entered the dog days of summer. The Bruins are done with their roster. There isn't much to talk about. Posters are about to start attacking each other a bit and the commentary is going to start going downhill. Well shark week is over so now we get to watch danny and stevegm go after each other and what used to be a romantic relationship between danny and sizz has now turned into a somewhat malevolent relationship. We do it simply because the make-up sex is so great. When you see me and my boy Goats go at it... Then you can be worried.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Aug 5, 2023 12:18:05 GMT
It was also goalie Bobs fault for playing Ullmark too. Montgomery intimated that he let Bob choose who should play. Montgomery should have vetoed him and played Swayman in game 5 at least. Yep, but head coach means you take the heat for the coaching staff. I didn't like Montgomery playing that off to Bob. . Eh, Bob’s your uncle… I didn’t like it either, I also didn’t like that he listened, he is the boss and needed to be fucking smarter than that, with about a week rest before game 7, you give the kid a go and see if the rest helps for the next round or game 7 if the kid doesn’t get it done Trade Grizz!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Aug 5, 2023 12:20:33 GMT
We've entered the dog days of summer. The Bruins are done with their roster. There isn't much to talk about. Posters are about to start attacking each other a bit and the commentary is going to start going downhill. Fuck you. Fuck you both and everyone else Trade Grizz!!!!!!
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 12:31:22 GMT
Fuck you both and everyone else Trade Grizz!!!!!! That's the spirit! 👍
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Post by dannycater on Aug 5, 2023 12:35:39 GMT
Fuck you both and everyone else Trade Grizz!!!!!! That's the spirit! 👍 Auto-Trade Gryz
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 12:39:36 GMT
First team with a bag of pucks and a ham sandwich gets him.... We Don't even need the pucks and the sammy, you just need to have them.
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Post by dannycater on Aug 5, 2023 12:58:11 GMT
First team with a bag of pucks and a ham sandwich gets him.... We Don't even need the pucks and the sammy, you just need to have them. book nixed the deal, citing religious discrimination against pigs and he said a bag of pucks cost a lot more today than when he was watching Milt Schmidt play in person....he added that Gryz makes a great regular season bottom 6 d guy and that there is no reason to think it will affect the B's play in the 24 playoffs...as they won't make it in.
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 12:59:59 GMT
If you elect me president, here is my plan:
Players out: Jake, shittenkrap, Carlo, Coyle, dick van reimdyk, grizz, Casper boquist.
Staff out: Everyone in between Jacob's and marchy.
Players in: Deslauriers, the good foligno, jeannot, Hartman, schenn, gudas, kolesar, gudas, Reaves, hath & willy.
I don't even care about who plays what position and right or left... Whoever hits and fights the most gets to pick their position.
Spend the next 3 seasons beating the living tar out of your opponents and racking up picks and prospects. Start building a real team again in 2027.
Who's support do I have?!?!
Anyone...
Anyone...
Bueller?
...Shupe??
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 13:00:57 GMT
First team with a bag of pucks and a ham sandwich gets him.... We Don't even need the pucks and the sammy, you just need to have them. book nixed the deal, citing religious discrimination against pigs and he said a bag of pucks cost a lot more today than when he was watching Milt Schmidt play in person. You could definitely post for him if he ever takes a break,lol
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Post by dannycater on Aug 5, 2023 13:02:20 GMT
book nixed the deal, citing religious discrimination against pigs and he said a bag of pucks cost a lot more today than when he was watching Milt Schmidt play in person. You could definitely post for him if he ever takes a break,lol I don't think he will ever take a break, certainly not the one bstnnumbers did...a permanent one.
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 15:28:02 GMT
You could definitely post for him if he ever takes a break,lol I don't think he will ever take a break, certainly not the one bstnnumbers did...a permanent one. Probably not, but good to know you have is back just in case... I'm Sure that's a relief to him as well. Not a better poster to take a permanent break. I go back and forth with lots of my buddies here, especially since the team is making me a sour fuck, but they are all good shits at the end of the day... That dink just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 5, 2023 15:36:55 GMT
If you elect me president, here is my plan: Players out: Jake, shittenkrap, Carlo, Coyle, dick van reimdyk, grizz, Casper boquist. Staff out: Everyone in between Jacob's and marchy. Players in: Deslauriers, the good foligno, jeannot, Hartman, schenn, gudas, kolesar, gudas, Reaves, hath & willy. I don't even care about who plays what position and right or left... Whoever hits and fights the most gets to pick their position. Spend the next 3 seasons beating the living tar out of your opponents and racking up picks and prospects. Start building a real team again in 2027. Who's support do I have?!?! Anyone... Anyone... Bueller? ...Shupe?? Just go watch MMA for three years and then check back in 2027. This is the kind of thing that makes me sad boxing is in ruins. I prefer it to MMA, which for all the training and technique still looks like something Patrick Swayze should be officiating.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 5, 2023 15:39:28 GMT
Remember when Canada lost to the Czechs in the Olympics in 1998? Shootout lineup was Fleury, Bourque, Nieuwendyk, Lindros, Shannahammer. No Gretzky. Would you say it's no use having Wayne on the roster at the Olympics because they lost? The comparison is that the problem isn't with having two goalies. It's with bad decisions on how to use that advantage. If Linus Ullmark had so much as mild gas, they should have started Swayman. They decided to have Ullmark play through his injury. Crawford should have used the greatest scorer in the history of the game in the shootout. He decided to go with Ray instead. Not Ray's fault. Not Ullmark's. Crawford's and Montgomery's. In the world of trade one because only one plays, you're more or less saying you're fine with losing the way they did because they basically played one goalie who tried to cowboy up as though there were no options, and couldn't. Then there's this: Vegas won the Cup with Hill going on a run, but Laurent Brossoit played 8 games for them. Florida started the playoffs with Alex Lyon in net. Carolina got 9 games out of Freddy, 6 out of Raantta and 1 out of Ketchupkov. Dallas had to turn to Wedgewood three times (no starts though). Joseph Woll played four games for the Laffs, starting twice. The teams with one goalie and only one are rarer now for teams that go deep. Two Cups ago, Kuemper got the contract as the Cup goalie for the Avs, but Francouz played 7 and started 4. Vagisil played em all because he's one of the few exceptions. Edmonton made the final with Smith starting them all but Koskinen still played 4, and Shesturkey started them all but Georgiev played a few too. Teams that go deep need two goalies. You don't want to be a single point failure team where you're depending on one guy and if he gets hurt or goes cold, you're screwed. No because that's a dumb comparison on many different levels. You can play 4+ centers if you want. Goals one at a time dude! Hello! Was Gretz available and healthy and the coach decide to sit him? When would you even compare a forward to a goalie... You know they are different positions, right? Goalies... Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.. Centers... A tad different. You are really struggling to make excuses for your auto dissagree book. Slipping buddy! "Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.." When you can get two good goalies under $9M cap hit its a great thing to have. Especially when two vet centers have just retired. Having them both is going to last one more year, a year n half, at most. Last thing a NHL team wants is their best goalie going down then you have a cheap backup the rest of the season. Boston is going to need both Ullmark and Swayman this season. There will be a lot of low scoring games. EDIT: and I agree if a top-4 center can be had with one of our goalies, going the other way, preferably Ullmark, I would do that.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 5, 2023 15:45:49 GMT
You just don't seem to understand TOI-AAV-60 Off. when it comes to Trent Frederic. How on earth you could ever think a 17 goal scorer, is overpaid at TFreds rate. Fun read though. Because he has yet to earn a point in 9 playoff games and 2 coaches healthy scratched him or felt he was not good enough to be among the 12 forward lineup. That's why. I just feel like it's time to move on from the kid who to me is not ever going to step up in a playoff game. Basing a move on 9 games is a panic armchair gm move. 17 goals on that salary, in a cap world, is extremely efficient. Benching Trederic was dumb and a panic move. Same as 2010 Julien game 7 Whitfield against the Flyers. Sweeney is correct in staying the course with Frederic. Agree with 50, in that, Trent needs to be more consistent if he wants a raise.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 5, 2023 15:54:08 GMT
If you elect me president, here is my plan: Players out: Jake, shittenkrap, Carlo, Coyle, dick van reimdyk, grizz, Casper boquist. Staff out: Everyone in between Jacob's and marchy. Players in: Deslauriers, the good foligno, jeannot, Hartman, schenn, gudas, kolesar, gudas, Reaves, hath & willy. I don't even care about who plays what position and right or left... Whoever hits and fights the most gets to pick their position. Spend the next 3 seasons beating the living tar out of your opponents and racking up picks and prospects. Start building a real team again in 2027. Who's support do I have?!?! Anyone... Anyone... Bueller? ...Shupe?? I mean, I can think of a lot of things I would hate a lot more than I hate this idea. I just think they're too good to go this route effectively unless you also ditch players you don't include here. Pastrnak. McAvoy. I mean, some of this, if you rethink the way we've been discussing it, you could maybe do some more interesting stuff than JUST 82 bloodbaths per season. It wouldn't be quick, though. I think you could move DeBrusk for a first rounder in the 2024 draft, and maybe Carlo for another (surely if fucknuts from the Canadiens got a first from Florida, Carlo can). Coyle's got to be worth something at the deadline, too, even with two more years on his deal. A second and a third? A third and a prospect they like? But basically get back into the 2024 draft because right now, they have nothing. The rest of the guys you want to get rid of are junk bonds, mostly, though I still think someone will want Grz - a team with no decent PPQB. Philly had the worst PP last year and have since moved their two best offensive blueliners, so maybe Grz for a package that includes Deslauriers and some kind of pick? I guess that doesn't work if Willy and Hathaway are in the plan, though. You'll have to send the Caps something sweet to get Willy. I think you'd want to trade out Lindholm, too, so maybe that's part of the plan. And you still have two goalies. I've heard that you don't need two.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 5, 2023 16:09:33 GMT
Because he has yet to earn a point in 9 playoff games and 2 coaches healthy scratched him or felt he was not good enough to be among the 12 forward lineup. That's why. I just feel like it's time to move on from the kid who to me is not ever going to step up in a playoff game. Basing a move on 9 games is a panic armchair gm move. 17 goals on that salary, in a cap world, is extremely efficient. Benching Trederic was dumb and a panic move. Same as 2010 Julien game 7 Whitfield against the Flyers. Sweeney is correct in staying the course with Frederic. Agree with 50, in that, Trent needs to be more consistent if he wants a raise. 9 games, 86 minutes total. About 9:30 a game. No PPTOI. 2 min total on the PK. Based on Krejci's performance in the playoffs since 2018-19, how many points would he have in 84 minutes of playoff TOI? 2 52 games, 832 minutes of ESTOI, 22 ES points. And for danny...how many would Bergeron have based on his actual rate of production since 2018-19? 2 Almost identical ES production to DK. Taylor Hall would have had 3. As for the coaching, I'd say two things: One, Monty has plenty of 'splainin' to do about his roster decisions against Florida, from they way they used their goalie advantage to their detriment somehow to throwing in an obviously less than 100% Bergeron but separating him from Marchand, to giving all sorts of chances to the new toys at the expense of guys who had been cogs in the machine all year long. Better players don't necessarily make you a better team. Freddy was part of that in my eyes. Two, Frederic was the #9 forward on this team for most of the year. They went out and acquired Bertuzzi and Hathaway in an all-in, go for it year. That pushed Freddy to 11, and Montgomery chose to give a few of his 4th liners TOI including the returning veteran in Foligno. That's not "I don't trust Trent Frederic." It is "Tyler Bertuzzi and Garnet Hathaway are better veteran players for a playoff run" but I think a lot of teams would push their #9 fwd for those two.
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 18:29:41 GMT
If you elect me president, here is my plan: Players out: Jake, shittenkrap, Carlo, Coyle, dick van reimdyk, grizz, Casper boquist. Staff out: Everyone in between Jacob's and marchy. Players in: Deslauriers, the good foligno, jeannot, Hartman, schenn, gudas, kolesar, gudas, Reaves, hath & willy. I don't even care about who plays what position and right or left... Whoever hits and fights the most gets to pick their position. Spend the next 3 seasons beating the living tar out of your opponents and racking up picks and prospects. Start building a real team again in 2027. Who's support do I have?!?! Anyone... Anyone... Bueller? ...Shupe?? I mean, I can think of a lot of things I would hate a lot more than I hate this idea. I just think they're too good to go this route effectively unless you also ditch players you don't include here. Pastrnak. McAvoy. I mean, some of this, if you rethink the way we've been discussing it, you could maybe do some more interesting stuff than JUST 82 bloodbaths per season. It wouldn't be quick, though. I think you could move DeBrusk for a first rounder in the 2024 draft, and maybe Carlo for another (surely if fucknuts from the Canadiens got a first from Florida, Carlo can). Coyle's got to be worth something at the deadline, too, even with two more years on his deal. A second and a third? A third and a prospect they like? But basically get back into the 2024 draft because right now, they have nothing. The rest of the guys you want to get rid of are junk bonds, mostly, though I still think someone will want Grz - a team with no decent PPQB. Philly had the worst PP last year and have since moved their two best offensive blueliners, so maybe Grz for a package that includes Deslauriers and some kind of pick? I guess that doesn't work if Willy and Hathaway are in the plan, though. You'll have to send the Caps something sweet to get Willy. I think you'd want to trade out Lindholm, too, so maybe that's part of the plan. And you still have two goalies. I've heard that you don't need two. Hmm, of all the posts to set your auto dissagree to maybe... I mean, I didn't NEED to be 82 bloodbaths... 78 works for me.
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 18:32:14 GMT
No because that's a dumb comparison on many different levels. You can play 4+ centers if you want. Goals one at a time dude! Hello! Was Gretz available and healthy and the coach decide to sit him? When would you even compare a forward to a goalie... You know they are different positions, right? Goalies... Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.. Centers... A tad different. You are really struggling to make excuses for your auto dissagree book. Slipping buddy! "Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.." When you can get two good goalies under $9M cap hit its a great thing to have. Especially when two vet centers have just retired. Having them both is going to last one more year, a year n half, at most. Last thing a NHL team wants is their best goalie going down then you have a cheap backup the rest of the season. Boston is going to need both Ullmark and Swayman this season. There will be a lot of low scoring games. EDIT: and I agree if a top-4 center can be had with one of our goalies, going the other way, preferably Ullmark, I would do that. So you dissagree with an asterisk saying you agree... Lol Right now the B's need center depth more than they need a 1A 1B goalie situation.
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 18:44:45 GMT
If you elect me president, here is my plan: Players out: Jake, shittenkrap, Carlo, Coyle, dick van reimdyk, grizz, Casper boquist. Staff out: Everyone in between Jacob's and marchy. Players in: Deslauriers, the good foligno, jeannot, Hartman, schenn, gudas, kolesar, gudas, Reaves, hath & willy. I don't even care about who plays what position and right or left... Whoever hits and fights the most gets to pick their position. Spend the next 3 seasons beating the living tar out of your opponents and racking up picks and prospects. Start building a real team again in 2027. Who's support do I have?!?! Anyone... Anyone... Bueller? ...Shupe?? Just go watch MMA for three years and then check back in 2027. This is the kind of thing that makes me sad boxing is in ruins. I prefer it to MMA, which for all the training and technique still looks like something Patrick Swayze should be officiating. Don't be silly, I'm a hockey fan.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 5, 2023 18:52:45 GMT
"Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.." When you can get two good goalies under $9M cap hit its a great thing to have. Especially when two vet centers have just retired. Having them both is going to last one more year, a year n half, at most. Last thing a NHL team wants is their best goalie going down then you have a cheap backup the rest of the season. Boston is going to need both Ullmark and Swayman this season. There will be a lot of low scoring games. EDIT: and I agree if a top-4 center can be had with one of our goalies, going the other way, preferably Ullmark, I would do that. So you dissagree with an asterisk saying you agree... Lol Right now the B's need center depth more than they need a 1A 1B goalie situation. It's a different question, though. One is about getting a #1 C and giving up a goalie IF that's the cost. The other says the two goalie system is inherently flawed and you should trade one to upgrade in whatever way possible. Maybe that's a C, maybe not. Right now, the glaring hole is Bergeron-shaped, and I don't know that anyone is untouchable when it comes to the right deal. Say Toronto hits an impasse with Buston. Or Edmonton gets a note from the Draisaitl camp saying cool agent as VP move, bro - we'll be leaving at the end of this contract. Pasta for Leon (contract in hand)?
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 19:11:50 GMT
So you dissagree with an asterisk saying you agree... Lol Right now the B's need center depth more than they need a 1A 1B goalie situation. It's a different question, though. One is about getting a #1 C and giving up a goalie IF that's the cost. The other says the two goalie system is inherently flawed and you should trade one to upgrade in whatever way possible. Maybe that's a C, maybe not. Right now, the glaring hole is Bergeron-shaped, and I don't know that anyone is untouchable when it comes to the right deal. Say Toronto hits an impasse with Buston. Or Edmonton gets a note from the Draisaitl camp saying cool agent as VP move, bro - we'll be leaving at the end of this contract. Pasta for Leon (contract in hand)? We need centers... Our most valued asset is the 5m Vezina man... Seems to make sense in conjunction with the clusterfuck that was all things goaltending last post season. Guessing you want to keep both goalies... Assuming you think we needs centers, do you see a better way of getting one?
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Post by mdsizzle on Aug 5, 2023 19:29:17 GMT
So you dissagree with an asterisk saying you agree... Lol Right now the B's need center depth more than they need a 1A 1B goalie situation. It's a different question, though. One is about getting a #1 C and giving up a goalie IF that's the cost. The other says the two goalie system is inherently flawed and you should trade one to upgrade in whatever way possible. Maybe that's a C, maybe not. Right now, the glaring hole is Bergeron-shaped, and I don't know that anyone is untouchable when it comes to the right deal. Say Toronto hits an impasse with Buston. Or Edmonton gets a note from the Draisaitl camp saying cool agent as VP move, bro - we'll be leaving at the end of this contract. Pasta for Leon (contract in hand)? Also, and playing along with your game... If you want to now make it two different situations, IMHO it's two birds with one stone.
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Post by islamorada on Aug 5, 2023 19:53:38 GMT
It's a different question, though. One is about getting a #1 C and giving up a goalie IF that's the cost. The other says the two goalie system is inherently flawed and you should trade one to upgrade in whatever way possible. Maybe that's a C, maybe not. Right now, the glaring hole is Bergeron-shaped, and I don't know that anyone is untouchable when it comes to the right deal. Say Toronto hits an impasse with Buston. Or Edmonton gets a note from the Draisaitl camp saying cool agent as VP move, bro - we'll be leaving at the end of this contract. Pasta for Leon (contract in hand)? We need centers... Our most valued asset is the 5m Vezina man... Seems to make sense in conjunction with the clusterfuck that was all things goaltending last post season. Guessing you want to keep both goalies... Assuming you think we needs centers, do you see a better way of getting one? Bingo! If the need is a center not named Zacha then trading Ullmark is better than letting go of a LW in his prime. Holding your breath for a diamond in the rough center to be had for a few cents on the dollar is just not smart. Three years of Pasta and McAvoy is wasted waiting for the opportunity. Now having two goalies and a solid defense is mighty fine for now. But betting on the current centers is not conducive to winning playoff games. Defense wins but wingers are a bit vulnerable without a play making centers. So trade Ullmark. Or trade Debrusk but the status quote will bring wrangling of nerves for fans. I am convinced we are under tge illusion that if Florida can make it to the finals with a poor regular season that the Bs can do the same without a bonfide 1C. Yup, time to put on the snooze button until September. I love the Trent is the next Tom Wilson on the Athletic, not.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Aug 5, 2023 19:55:10 GMT
Because he has yet to earn a point in 9 playoff games and 2 coaches healthy scratched him or felt he was not good enough to be among the 12 forward lineup. That's why. I just feel like it's time to move on from the kid who to me is not ever going to step up in a playoff game. Basing a move on 9 games is a panic armchair gm move. 17 goals on that salary, in a cap world, is extremely efficient. Benching Trederic was dumb and a panic move. Same as 2010 Julien game 7 Whitfield against the Flyers. Sweeney is correct in staying the course with Frederic. Agree with 50, in that, Trent needs to be more consistent if he wants a raise. Trent Whitfield is a coach now, his raise won’t affect any cap
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Post by sandogbrewin on Aug 6, 2023 0:19:41 GMT
"Only 2 on a roster, and can play one at a time.." When you can get two good goalies under $9M cap hit its a great thing to have. Especially when two vet centers have just retired. Having them both is going to last one more year, a year n half, at most. Last thing a NHL team wants is their best goalie going down then you have a cheap backup the rest of the season. Boston is going to need both Ullmark and Swayman this season. There will be a lot of low scoring games. EDIT: and I agree if a top-4 center can be had with one of our goalies, going the other way, preferably Ullmark, I would do that. So you dissagree with an asterisk saying you agree... Lol Right now the B's need center depth more than they need a 1A 1B goalie situation. You didn't and don't know how to apply an asterisk. It's comical reading you arguing with yourself. And you certainly don't know the value of two very good goalies. No one would disagree that the Bruins need a center. Of course Boston does. It could be that any good centers, that might be available, the teams that have a 1A/1B pivot don't want or need a goalie in return. Goaltending bad play alone did not lose the Florida season alone. Boston leaves itself with one good goalie its potential for being up shuts creek with an injury.
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