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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 26, 2023 16:59:42 GMT
Cam asked about the center situation. Do something Donny!!!
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 26, 2023 17:33:30 GMT
Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. I very luke warm on a trade for a proven #1. Lindholm has the right skill set to fit in but as someone else said, he's another Zacha. He was a point per game player playing with Johnny Cabbages and Tkachuk. Maybe if they out him with Pastrnak and Marchand? But the cost will be high unless it's a deadline type of deal and the risk that he doesn't produce at #1 C quality is real. Scheifele is a head case. I can live with that at the right cost, but if they were really motivated to move him, I think it would have been done by now. We used to bitch that you need a #1C who scores a point per game then had a decade of success mostly without that. Generally, you need an elite C to be a contender, but who knows? Maybe they can find a way without one for now. Well, DS is dancing with the fat lady he brought to the prom... We knew this day was coming. I guess it works be better to make no move right now for a C then the wrong one.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 26, 2023 18:38:05 GMT
I very luke warm on a trade for a proven #1. Lindholm has the right skill set to fit in but as someone else said, he's another Zacha. He was a point per game player playing with Johnny Cabbages and Tkachuk. Maybe if they out him with Pastrnak and Marchand? But the cost will be high unless it's a deadline type of deal and the risk that he doesn't produce at #1 C quality is real. Scheifele is a head case. I can live with that at the right cost, but if they were really motivated to move him, I think it would have been done by now. We used to bitch that you need a #1C who scores a point per game then had a decade of success mostly without that. Generally, you need an elite C to be a contender, but who knows? Maybe they can find a way without one for now. Well, DS is dancing with the fat lady he brought to the prom... We knew this day was coming. I guess it works be better to make no move right now for a C then the wrong one. Did he bring LizzOC?
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 26, 2023 18:40:19 GMT
In the drivers seat who he wants to play with. Doesn't need a big contract. Join a real good team in a cup run, put up some numbers and become FA with the cap to go up significantly. Doesn't suck to be him. Career earnings of $115,637,000 according to CapFriendly. Plus endorsements. Less payoffs to Buffalo chicks and cabbies.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 26, 2023 18:41:05 GMT
Cam asked about the center situation. Do something Donny!!! SEA BASS NO LIKE QUESTIONS!! DONNY MAKE QUESTIONS STOP!!!
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 26, 2023 18:46:28 GMT
Well, DS is dancing with the fat lady he brought to the prom... We knew this day was coming. I guess it works be better to make no move right now for a C then the wrong one. Did he bring LizzOC? I wouldn't bet against it.
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Post by moognoates on Jul 26, 2023 20:33:12 GMT
I loved the Sheiffle hit on the Montreal piñata in the playoffs. That playoff desire is needed. Vegas made sure Tcachuk was going to feel every shift and took the snot out of him. He wasn’t predicting next game after that. Bruins didn’t make him pay enough I would take Shieffle. A point plus, can score and can skate. I don’t know his attitude but I’d have a shit ton of attitude playing with a losing team for years Definitely more aggressive than than Lindholm. But is Lindholm buddies with Zacha and Pastrnak ? Lindholm is Swedish. Don't think all Euros know each other.
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Post by moognoates on Jul 26, 2023 20:37:53 GMT
Cam asked about the center situation. Do something Donny!!! If it's true though that they've known about Bergeron since May, then my confidence is real low they are going to pull anything off this offseason. Not much happens in August in the NHL.
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Post by The OC on Jul 26, 2023 20:49:43 GMT
Cam asked about the center situation. Do something Donny!!! If it's true though that they've known about Bergeron since May, then my confidence is real low they are going to pull anything off this offseason. Not much happens in August in the NHL. I suspect they are targeting E Lindholm, but Calgary needs to accept he's not resigning before that trade can happen. Much like with H Lindholm, that might not happen until the deadline. That's why they signed Boqvist and Brown, guys that can fill holes if needed and can be sent down without consequence if not.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 26, 2023 21:00:09 GMT
Definitely more aggressive than than Lindholm. But is Lindholm buddies with Zacha and Pastrnak ? Lindholm is Swedish. Don't think all Euros know each other. No they don't. Pastrnak and Nylander are pretty good buds. Alot of Finn, Czech and Swedish players were on junior Euro league teams together. Pretty food chance many Euro players, that made it to the NHL, crossed path in previous leagues as teammates.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 26, 2023 21:05:08 GMT
Cam asked about the center situation. Do something Donny!!! If it's true though that they've known about Bergeron since May, then my confidence is real low they are going to pull anything off this offseason. Not much happens in August in the NHL. August isn't my concern October is. Calgary and Winnipeg can't afford to be stingy and hold out on players that don't look like they will re-sign. No one saw the Horton, Zacha, Bertuzzi, Seidenberg or Orlov trades. Moving pieces for bigger named or number 1 centers can take time.
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Post by schlich on Jul 26, 2023 21:12:55 GMT
Corner the Lindholm market
Like they did with sweeneys once upon a time
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Post by The OC on Jul 26, 2023 21:15:27 GMT
Geekie I think might end up being a really good player. He just needs a team to give him the minutes. Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. I'd be willing to bet that in two years you'd be happy they signed Geekie instead of PLD. Probably without even factoring contract and trade cost.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 26, 2023 21:20:21 GMT
Corner the Lindholm market Like they did with sweeneys once upon a time We had 3 Sweeneys too! Tim, Bob and Don...we liked our Swedish defensemen too--Mats Thelin and Michael Thelven...
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Post by 50belowzero on Jul 26, 2023 21:21:21 GMT
Maybe Donnie should give Mike Grier a call, old BU guy might want to help the B's out and would consider trading Hertl. If Grier is being honest his team is a ways from competing for a playoff spot much less the Cup and i'm pretty sure Hertl would be amenable to a trade, he might not be in hell but he can see it from where he sits. A line of Zacha, Hertl & Pasta would be sweet.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 26, 2023 22:05:54 GMT
Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. I'd be willing to bet that in two years you'd be happy they signed Geekie instead of PLD. Probably without even factoring contract and trade cost. I hope you are right... But with bergy gone and dk around the corner, it doesn't have to be an or situation. Pld is solid and being strong down the center is a thing.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 26, 2023 22:09:29 GMT
Maybe Donnie should give Mike Grier a call, old BU guy might want to help the B's out and would consider trading Hertl. If Grier is being honest his team is a ways from competing for a playoff spot much less the Cup and i'm pretty sure Hertl would be amenable to a trade, he might not be in hell but he can see it from where he sits. A line of Zacha, Hertl & Pasta would be sweet. Maybe call up Grier and see if he wants to play too. All hands on deck.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 26, 2023 22:33:49 GMT
Maybe Donnie should give Mike Grier a call, old BU guy might want to help the B's out and would consider trading Hertl. If Grier is being honest his team is a ways from competing for a playoff spot much less the Cup and i'm pretty sure Hertl would be amenable to a trade, he might not be in hell but he can see it from where he sits. A line of Zacha, Hertl & Pasta would be sweet. Maybe call up Grier and see if he wants to play too. All hands on deck. Put him on the line with looch!
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 26, 2023 22:36:23 GMT
Maybe Donnie should give Mike Grier a call, old BU guy might want to help the B's out and would consider trading Hertl. If Grier is being honest his team is a ways from competing for a playoff spot much less the Cup and i'm pretty sure Hertl would be amenable to a trade, he might not be in hell but he can see it from where he sits. A line of Zacha, Hertl & Pasta would be sweet. Maybe call up Grier and see if he wants to play too. All hands on deck. I really think they missed a golden opportunity to have looch, Bert, hath all on the same team... Let Freddy learn from the best, entertain the masses like me that are just pissed and want blood after the 2023 debacle...
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jul 26, 2023 22:44:41 GMT
I thought of Toews yesterday, I'm not sure, but I don't think he has officially retired yet. I say sign him, and then sign Patrick Kane for an incentive laden deal. I've been on the Toews watch for a while. And I think it could be a good fit if he's willing to take what the Bruins can afford. His game is compatible, and while he's not the player he was in his prime, he's still a very solid two way C who can win draws and offset some of what they lose with Bergeron's decision. The problem is that I don't think he's over long COVID. That was what kept him out last year. He could play a bit but then had to sit out. If he's fully asymptomatic, great. And it would be hilarious for them to add both Kane and Toews. I think there's some affinity there - respect between the original six franchises who fought it out in 2013. Kane's from Buffalo, though, so maybe he doesn't want to be a Bruin. But how great would a line of Marchand-Toews-Kane be behind DeBrusk-Zacha-Pastrnak? Just like Bergy, I think Toews will be calling it a day sooner rather than later….
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 26, 2023 22:44:53 GMT
Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. I'd be willing to bet that in two years you'd be happy they signed Geekie instead of PLD. Probably without even factoring contract and trade cost. Glad the Bruins stayed away from PLD. That trade better work out for LA. Allot invested.
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Post by The OC on Jul 27, 2023 0:31:13 GMT
Geekie I think might end up being a really good player. He just needs a team to give him the minutes. Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. PLD is the anti-Bergeron: Poor attitude, privileged high pick, poor defensively, weak on faceoffs, never kills penalties, traded twice. He's 25 and hit his peak so far at 63pts while being fed PP minutes and spending a lot of time on LW with better players. If you're looking for a rock #1C to build your team around, he's not it.
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Post by dannycater on Jul 27, 2023 1:26:54 GMT
Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. PLD is the anti-Bergeron: Poor attitude, privileged high pick, poor defensively, weak on faceoffs, never kills penalties, traded twice. He's 25 and hit his peak so far at 63pts while being fed PP minutes and spending a lot of time on LW with better players. If you're looking for a rock #1C to build your team around, he's not it. Kings fans are pissed.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jul 27, 2023 10:53:20 GMT
Ya, I'd like to give him more of an opportunity to be a top 6 guy. There's just nobody out there that interested me as a 1C aside from Pld... Maybe Schefilie but he's getting up there. I'm sick of mortgaging the future for guys that are not really helping the present. PLD is the anti-Bergeron: Poor attitude, privileged high pick, poor defensively, weak on faceoffs, never kills penalties, traded twice. He's 25 and hit his peak so far at 63pts while being fed PP minutes and spending a lot of time on LW with better players. If you're looking for a rock #1C to build your team around, he's not it. People shit all over Eichel too... Change of scenery and his name is on the cup and he was in the Conn Smyth debate. Sometimes a change of scenery and circumstance can remedy quite a bit. I'm just saying I like the attributes I can see.
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Post by chappy28 on Jul 27, 2023 13:17:52 GMT
I'd be willing to bet that in two years you'd be happy they signed Geekie instead of PLD. Probably without even factoring contract and trade cost. I hope you are right... But with bergy gone and dk around the corner, it doesn't have to be an or situation. Pld is solid and being strong down the center is a thing. Not a fan of PLD --- just seem like no team likes him enough to commit to him. For a #2 pick with a solid game he never sticks and to me that's a red flag. The teams that decide to move on from him year after year know more than we do
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