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Post by asmaha on Oct 18, 2023 23:51:56 GMT
Gold Plan: DeBrusk long-term extension and Novak Silver Plan: Hanafin and Swayman short-term extension Bronze Pan: Marchessault, JVR, and perhaps a flyer on Patches
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Post by 50belowzero on Oct 20, 2023 13:36:44 GMT
Gold Plan: DeBrusk long-term extension and Novak Silver Plan: Hanafin and Swayman short-term extension Bronze Pan: Marchessault, JVR, and perhaps a flyer on Patches You've peaked my curiosity with your plan options. I think maybe i like a little from each plan, Debrusk extension, Swayman short term and extend JVR. I am also curious about Tommy Novak, i think that's who you mean, he might be an under the radar add that has a big upside, could be a late bloomer. You have any inside info on this guy or what?
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Post by islamorada on Oct 21, 2023 9:17:52 GMT
Gold Plan: DeBrusk long-term extension and Novak Silver Plan: Hanafin and Swayman short-term extension Bronze Pan: Marchessault, JVR, and perhaps a flyer on Patches Outside of the obvious and not realistic free agents to be had, this is the most realistic. The bronze plan would not be a plan though, more like scraps from the dinner plate for the bear. The Novak selection is interesting. Any particular reason?
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Post by asmaha on Oct 21, 2023 12:42:14 GMT
It's nice to think that the Bruins could sign one or two players from the top tier pending UFAs, but we all know it's not likely. I assume most will re-sign and the ones that don't will have 2/3 of the league trying to land them. Everyone will have money to spend and some will do so stupidly by shoving $13M x 8 years or something bonkers for Pettersson or whatever.
So I'm just spitballing. Seems that they would prioritize DeBrusk since he's one of their own and offering a long-term deal lines up with what they've established with Pasta, McAvoy, Lindholm, and even Zacha and Carlo to some extent. Identify the guys you want to build around and lock them in. We all know the deal with Swayman. If he excels again, he'll get a nice chunk of change. So what if they spend big $10M on the best tandem for another year? Money well spent IMO.
So after DeBrusk and Sway, there's only so much money left to go around. I just threw out a few of my favorite targets in order: Novak if they prioritize center, Hanafin if they want the best Top 4 D in the league, or 2-3 vet signings like Marchessault/JVR/Patches if they are comfortable with Zacha/Poitras/Coyle/Beecher down the middle.
Novak is interesting. I somehow watched a lot of Nashville games in the second part of last year. No reason why -- it just happened. He's impressive. Mid-20s I think, but only a few years in the league. Nashville would be insane to move on from him, but they're committed to O'Reilly and Glass and there's no room at the inn for Novak to break into the Top 4 where he belongs. I can see him and his agent looking to strike for a better deal. He seems ready, though. He reminds me of Hall -- a good person to control the puck on entry. But spends a lot of time in the middle of the ice on offense, so he'd be a good fit for two feisty wingers along the boards. Marchand-Novak-DeBrusk could be an excellent 2nd line. Talented, fast, scrappy, and pesty as hell to play against.
We know what Plan B Hanafin would mean. Lindholm-McAvoy, Hanafin-Carlo, Lorhei-Mitchell would set the Bs up for a long time.
As for the rest, I was just thinking of vets who still have some goals in them on the 3rd and 4th lines but won't break the bank. There are a bunch.
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Post by moognoates on Oct 21, 2023 13:01:39 GMT
It's nice to think that the Bruins could sign one or two players from the top tier pending UFAs, but we all know it's not likely. I assume most will re-sign and the ones that don't will have 2/3 of the league trying to land them. Everyone will have money to spend and some will do so stupidly by shoving $13M x 8 years or something bonkers for Pettersson or whatever. So I'm just spitballing. Seems that they would prioritize DeBrusk since he's one of their own and offering a long-term deal lines up with what they've established with Pasta, McAvoy, Lindholm, and even Zacha and Carlo to some extent. Identify the guys you want to build around and lock them in. We all know the deal with Swayman. If he excels again, he'll get a nice chunk of change. So what if they spend big $10M on the best tandem for another year? Money well spent IMO. So after DeBrusk and Sway, there's only so much money left to go around. I just threw out a few of my favorite targets in order: Novak if they prioritize center, Hanafin if they want the best Top 4 D in the league, or 2-3 vet signings like Marchessault/JVR/Patches if they are comfortable with Zacha/Poitras/Coyle/Beecher down the middle. Novak is interesting. I somehow watched a lot of Nashville games in the second part of last year. No reason why -- it just happened. He's impressive. Mid-20s I think, but only a few years in the league. Nashville would be insane to move on from him, but they're committed to O'Reilly and Glass and there's no room at the inn for Novak to break into the Top 4 where he belongs. I can see him and his agent looking to strike for a better deal. He seems ready, though. He reminds me of Hall -- a good person to control the puck on entry. But spends a lot of time in the middle of the ice on offense, so he'd be a good fit for two feisty wingers along the boards. Marchand-Novak-DeBrusk could be an excellent 2nd line. Talented, fast, scrappy, and pesty as hell to play against. We know what Plan B Hanafin would mean. Lindholm-McAvoy, Hanafin-Carlo, Lorhei-Mitchell would set the Bs up for a long time. As for the rest, I was just thinking of vets who still have some goals in them on the 3rd and 4th lines but won't break the bank. There are a bunch. I don't know much at all about Novak but your idea sounds interesting. I assume you consider Zacha-Pots-Pasta as your top line right? The irony is we are finally going to have all this cap space and nothing to spend it on. I'm still all in on E.Lindholm if he makes it to FA. I was thinking the same thing about the goalies, especially after being reminded so far this year how Ully just eats up pucks. But he might be the opportunity we have to get a 1st round pick or a young high ceiling prospect from a team trying to win now so that we aren't at the mercy of waiting on UFA's. It's going to be a fascinating time starting around the trade deadline to next summer
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Post by asmaha on Oct 21, 2023 13:08:56 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing.
So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team.
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 21, 2023 17:35:40 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing. So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team. 79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway.
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Post by Fletcher on Oct 21, 2023 20:47:17 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing. So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team. 79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway. But...how often does a good, young goalie come along, who's home grown at the meager price of a 4th round draft pick? The Bruins have him. The potential risk of losing a legit goalie for the next decade is too great. I say trade Ullmark while his stock is high, which is not to necessarily to say 'immediately'. I would wait until the midseason at least, when we get further assurance of what we have, and other contenders may be increasingly desperate for a good veteran goalie for their playoff run.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 21, 2023 22:13:46 GMT
It's nice to think that the Bruins could sign one or two players from the top tier pending UFAs, but we all know it's not likely. I assume most will re-sign and the ones that don't will have 2/3 of the league trying to land them. Everyone will have money to spend and some will do so stupidly by shoving $13M x 8 years or something bonkers for Pettersson or whatever. So I'm just spitballing. Seems that they would prioritize DeBrusk since he's one of their own and offering a long-term deal lines up with what they've established with Pasta, McAvoy, Lindholm, and even Zacha and Carlo to some extent. Identify the guys you want to build around and lock them in. We all know the deal with Swayman. If he excels again, he'll get a nice chunk of change. So what if they spend big $10M on the best tandem for another year? Money well spent IMO. So after DeBrusk and Sway, there's only so much money left to go around. I just threw out a few of my favorite targets in order: Novak if they prioritize center, Hanafin if they want the best Top 4 D in the league, or 2-3 vet signings like Marchessault/JVR/Patches if they are comfortable with Zacha/Poitras/Coyle/Beecher down the middle. Novak is interesting. I somehow watched a lot of Nashville games in the second part of last year. No reason why -- it just happened. He's impressive. Mid-20s I think, but only a few years in the league. Nashville would be insane to move on from him, but they're committed to O'Reilly and Glass and there's no room at the inn for Novak to break into the Top 4 where he belongs. I can see him and his agent looking to strike for a better deal. He seems ready, though. He reminds me of Hall -- a good person to control the puck on entry. But spends a lot of time in the middle of the ice on offense, so he'd be a good fit for two feisty wingers along the boards. Marchand-Novak-DeBrusk could be an excellent 2nd line. Talented, fast, scrappy, and pesty as hell to play against. We know what Plan B Hanafin would mean. Lindholm-McAvoy, Hanafin-Carlo, Lorhei-Mitchell would set the Bs up for a long time. As for the rest, I was just thinking of vets who still have some goals in them on the 3rd and 4th lines but won't break the bank. There are a bunch. $26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 21, 2023 22:15:38 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing. So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team. 79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway. And Sweeney will have a great cheap contract in Bussi starting next season.
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Post by moognoates on Oct 22, 2023 2:11:09 GMT
It's nice to think that the Bruins could sign one or two players from the top tier pending UFAs, but we all know it's not likely. I assume most will re-sign and the ones that don't will have 2/3 of the league trying to land them. Everyone will have money to spend and some will do so stupidly by shoving $13M x 8 years or something bonkers for Pettersson or whatever. So I'm just spitballing. Seems that they would prioritize DeBrusk since he's one of their own and offering a long-term deal lines up with what they've established with Pasta, McAvoy, Lindholm, and even Zacha and Carlo to some extent. Identify the guys you want to build around and lock them in. We all know the deal with Swayman. If he excels again, he'll get a nice chunk of change. So what if they spend big $10M on the best tandem for another year? Money well spent IMO. So after DeBrusk and Sway, there's only so much money left to go around. I just threw out a few of my favorite targets in order: Novak if they prioritize center, Hanafin if they want the best Top 4 D in the league, or 2-3 vet signings like Marchessault/JVR/Patches if they are comfortable with Zacha/Poitras/Coyle/Beecher down the middle. Novak is interesting. I somehow watched a lot of Nashville games in the second part of last year. No reason why -- it just happened. He's impressive. Mid-20s I think, but only a few years in the league. Nashville would be insane to move on from him, but they're committed to O'Reilly and Glass and there's no room at the inn for Novak to break into the Top 4 where he belongs. I can see him and his agent looking to strike for a better deal. He seems ready, though. He reminds me of Hall -- a good person to control the puck on entry. But spends a lot of time in the middle of the ice on offense, so he'd be a good fit for two feisty wingers along the boards. Marchand-Novak-DeBrusk could be an excellent 2nd line. Talented, fast, scrappy, and pesty as hell to play against. We know what Plan B Hanafin would mean. Lindholm-McAvoy, Hanafin-Carlo, Lorhei-Mitchell would set the Bs up for a long time. As for the rest, I was just thinking of vets who still have some goals in them on the 3rd and 4th lines but won't break the bank. There are a bunch. $26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. I think that $87.5M Cap already projects a sizable jump in the cap next year doesn't it? Also just heard Friedman on HNIC mention Hannafin and Calgary are making progress on an extension.
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Post by asmaha on Oct 22, 2023 12:20:33 GMT
It's nice to think that the Bruins could sign one or two players from the top tier pending UFAs, but we all know it's not likely. I assume most will re-sign and the ones that don't will have 2/3 of the league trying to land them. Everyone will have money to spend and some will do so stupidly by shoving $13M x 8 years or something bonkers for Pettersson or whatever. So I'm just spitballing. Seems that they would prioritize DeBrusk since he's one of their own and offering a long-term deal lines up with what they've established with Pasta, McAvoy, Lindholm, and even Zacha and Carlo to some extent. Identify the guys you want to build around and lock them in. We all know the deal with Swayman. If he excels again, he'll get a nice chunk of change. So what if they spend big $10M on the best tandem for another year? Money well spent IMO. So after DeBrusk and Sway, there's only so much money left to go around. I just threw out a few of my favorite targets in order: Novak if they prioritize center, Hanafin if they want the best Top 4 D in the league, or 2-3 vet signings like Marchessault/JVR/Patches if they are comfortable with Zacha/Poitras/Coyle/Beecher down the middle. Novak is interesting. I somehow watched a lot of Nashville games in the second part of last year. No reason why -- it just happened. He's impressive. Mid-20s I think, but only a few years in the league. Nashville would be insane to move on from him, but they're committed to O'Reilly and Glass and there's no room at the inn for Novak to break into the Top 4 where he belongs. I can see him and his agent looking to strike for a better deal. He seems ready, though. He reminds me of Hall -- a good person to control the puck on entry. But spends a lot of time in the middle of the ice on offense, so he'd be a good fit for two feisty wingers along the boards. Marchand-Novak-DeBrusk could be an excellent 2nd line. Talented, fast, scrappy, and pesty as hell to play against. We know what Plan B Hanafin would mean. Lindholm-McAvoy, Hanafin-Carlo, Lorhei-Mitchell would set the Bs up for a long time. As for the rest, I was just thinking of vets who still have some goals in them on the 3rd and 4th lines but won't break the bank. There are a bunch. $26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. Unfortunately that $26M needs to go to 6 forwards and 6 defensemen just to roster a functioning team. $2.6M average per player. Troy Terry often comes up as a DeBrusk comp, and he just signed a 7x$7M deal. Same age and relatively same output. Seems steep to me, what what the hell do we know? As a UFA with a rising cap, DeBrusk can certainly aim for that if he has another solid year. Let's say he somehow re-signs for an average of $6M. Swayman, if he continues to excel, will get at least $5M. So $26M is down to $15M with 10 more skaters to sign = $1.5M average. That's not much. This is why I'm thinking the Bruins can sign two legit players, but that's it. Thus one plan centers on DeBrusk and another centers on Swayman. Novak, Hanfin, and Marchessault are the positional names on my radar, depending on which position they want to reinforce. Reading everyone's thoughts here and looking at the numbers, it really may be time to move on from one of the goalies next summer to open up what's needed for a 3rd skater not playing at league minimum.
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Post by asmaha on Oct 22, 2023 12:24:10 GMT
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 22, 2023 13:50:19 GMT
$26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. Unfortunately that $26M needs to go to 6 forwards and 6 defensemen just to roster a functioning team. $2.6M average per player. Troy Terry often comes up as a DeBrusk comp, and he just signed a 7x$7M deal. Same age and relatively same output. Seems steep to me, what what the hell do we know? As a UFA with a rising cap, DeBrusk can certainly aim for that if he has another solid year. Let's say he somehow re-signs for an average of $6M. Swayman, if he continues to excel, will get at least $5M. So $26M is down to $15M with 10 more skaters to sign = $1.5M average. That's not much. This is why I'm thinking the Bruins can sign two legit players, but that's it. Thus one plan centers on DeBrusk and another centers on Swayman. Novak, Hanfin, and Marchessault are the positional names on my radar, depending on which position they want to reinforce. Reading everyone's thoughts here and looking at the numbers, it really may be time to move on from one of the goalies next summer to open up what's needed for a 3rd skater not playing at league minimum. Players from Providence are going to take some of those spots. And we are seeing right now Sweeney can bargain bin shop. Yah that money can go quick. But I do think the Geekies and JVRs contracts will be out there this summer. If Hannifan does sign with Calgary that money can go to another wind or center. Gonna be interesting to see how it all works.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 22, 2023 13:58:45 GMT
$26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. I think that $87.5M Cap already projects a sizable jump in the cap next year doesn't it? Also just heard Friedman on HNIC mention Hannafin and Calgary are making progress on an extension. Thanks for pointing that out. Thought Bs cap space had not added the extra $5M. Still plenty of money though. Looking like Calgary upped the anty to overpay. Anyone and everyone in and around Norwood, Ma. said… Hannifin hates it in Calgary. It wont kill Boston not to have him, I would have loved it, but now more money for forwards. I’m not so sure now DeBrusk is a shoe in to re-sign. Zero goals with no assists plus a healthy scratch ? Maybe he goes out in a trade.
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Post by 50belowzero on Oct 22, 2023 14:15:06 GMT
I think that $87.5M Cap already projects a sizable jump in the cap next year doesn't it? Also just heard Friedman on HNIC mention Hannafin and Calgary are making progress on an extension. Thanks for pointing that out. Thought Bs cap space had not added the extra $5M. Still plenty of money though. Looking like Calgary upped the anty to overpay. Anyone and everyone in and around Norwood, Ma. said… Hannifin hates it in Calgary. It wont kill Boston not to have him, I would have loved it, but now more money for forwards. I’m not so sure now DeBrusk is a shoe in to re-sign. Zero goals with no assists plus a healthy scratch ? Maybe he goes out in a trade. DeBrusk, Lysell & Zboril to what team for what?
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Post by davinator on Oct 22, 2023 16:01:49 GMT
ESPN projects him for 24g+39a=63pts for 2023-24...would be a serviceable forward.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Oct 22, 2023 23:15:23 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing. So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team. 79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway. I prefer my decision being based on which one is the better of the two over seeing which one brings back the better return, or which one will cost cheaper, or other niceties…. That said I prefer the kid the B’S drafted….
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Oct 22, 2023 23:23:17 GMT
I think that $87.5M Cap already projects a sizable jump in the cap next year doesn't it? Also just heard Friedman on HNIC mention Hannafin and Calgary are making progress on an extension. Thanks for pointing that out. Thought Bs cap space had not added the extra $5M. Still plenty of money though. Looking like Calgary upped the anty to overpay. Anyone and everyone in and around Norwood, Ma. said… Hannifin hates it in Calgary. It wont kill Boston not to have him, I would have loved it, but now more money for forwards. I’m not so sure now DeBrusk is a shoe in to re-sign. Zero goals with no assists plus a healthy scratch ? Maybe he goes out in a trade. Or maybe the B’S sign Jakey long term on the cheap instead….
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 23, 2023 0:03:02 GMT
79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway. I prefer my decision being based on which one is the better of the two over seeing which one brings back the better return, or which one will cost cheaper, or other niceties…. That said I prefer the kid the B’S drafted…. I think the point is that they seem almost equal to the point you're likely guessing who is better in three years.
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Post by moognoates on Oct 23, 2023 3:50:10 GMT
$26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. Unfortunately that $26M needs to go to 6 forwards and 6 defensemen just to roster a functioning team. $2.6M average per player. Troy Terry often comes up as a DeBrusk comp, and he just signed a 7x$7M deal. Same age and relatively same output. Seems steep to me, what what the hell do we know? As a UFA with a rising cap, DeBrusk can certainly aim for that if he has another solid year. Let's say he somehow re-signs for an average of $6M. Swayman, if he continues to excel, will get at least $5M. So $26M is down to $15M with 10 more skaters to sign = $1.5M average. That's not much. This is why I'm thinking the Bruins can sign two legit players, but that's it. Thus one plan centers on DeBrusk and another centers on Swayman. Novak, Hanfin, and Marchessault are the positional names on my radar, depending on which position they want to reinforce. Reading everyone's thoughts here and looking at the numbers, it really may be time to move on from one of the goalies next summer to open up what's needed for a 3rd skater not playing at league minimum. I think it's a little better than you say. I always base a roster on 13Fs and 7D. So if you sign JD and Sway to what you said, and I assume Lorhei is a lock next year so you have $14M for 3 forwards and 3 D. I'd say 2 of those forwards are $1M max each and same with two D spots. So that's $10M for a top 6 F and a third pairing D. Should be plenty.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Oct 23, 2023 12:16:17 GMT
$26M + another possible $5M for the summer of 24' NHL uptick. Swayman and DeBrusk are not going to take a chunk of that. If the Bruins were to add Hanifin Sweeney would still have money to sign a LW/RW wing. Unfortunately that $26M needs to go to 6 forwards and 6 defensemen just to roster a functioning team. $2.6M average per player. Troy Terry often comes up as a DeBrusk comp, and he just signed a 7x$7M deal. Same age and relatively same output. Seems steep to me, what what the hell do we know? As a UFA with a rising cap, DeBrusk can certainly aim for that if he has another solid year. Let's say he somehow re-signs for an average of $6M. Swayman, if he continues to excel, will get at least $5M. So $26M is down to $15M with 10 more skaters to sign = $1.5M average. That's not much. This is why I'm thinking the Bruins can sign two legit players, but that's it. Thus one plan centers on DeBrusk and another centers on Swayman. Novak, Hanfin, and Marchessault are the positional names on my radar, depending on which position they want to reinforce. Reading everyone's thoughts here and looking at the numbers, it really may be time to move on from one of the goalies next summer to open up what's needed for a 3rd skater not playing at league minimum. I see 3 and 3 for a total of 6, not 12. So you can pick whatever you want, 4 players at 6 and 2 younguns. 2 at 10 and 4 younguns A shit ton of scenarios
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Post by chappy28 on Oct 23, 2023 12:17:35 GMT
Ullmark is a difficult call. Even at the deadline with teams willing to give max return, it probably wouldn't be more than a 2nd rounder. And half the teams asking are out of the question because the Bruins will be fighting for playoff spots with them. And then there's the want for injury protection. And then there's chemistry / not screwing up a good thing. So you're right...the only real time to move Ullmark would be next summer. I think it's inevitable for the Bruins to have both through next season and just deal with the fact that Ullmark will walk as a UFA. I'm ok with that. That's the price you pay for being a good team. A second rounder for the reigning Vezina winner? No. The only way I trade Ullmark is for a first rounder +, but I think he would bring that in. I'm sure Edmonton for example would be willing to part with a first to give themselves a shot at a cup. We'll see what happens. I for one, think we need to trade him either at the deadline or in the off-season. Two #1 goalies is only useful for chasing regular season records. If you want to win a cup, you invest that money elsewhere. This team's path to a cup is about finding a true #1C, and finding high end middle six players. As much as I'd like to think we are already set at center with the emergence of Poitras, I still feel like we are a team without a true #1C. Perhaps one of either Zacha or Poitras proves me wrong, but I see both of them as more 2C than 1C in an ideal world, just like Coyle is best suited at 3C. Given that we don't look like we are going to fall out of the playoff picture, and thus won't be drafting in the top 10, our best bet at a 1C is a trade, and Ullmark/Swayman is our best chip.
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Post by chappy28 on Oct 23, 2023 12:18:48 GMT
79 games to go. Too much is going to change to have a reliable read in where Ullmark will be at the end. In many ways, you could make a great case for trading Sway instead. Likely a better return, no NTC, and you will have to pay him after this year. There's a good chance that it will salary neutral to keep Ullmark over Sway. I prefer my decision being based on which one is the better of the two over seeing which one brings back the better return, or which one will cost cheaper, or other niceties…. That said I prefer the kid the B’S drafted…. It's always about both the player, and the return --- at least it should be.
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Post by islamorada on Oct 23, 2023 12:22:31 GMT
I prefer my decision being based on which one is the better of the two over seeing which one brings back the better return, or which one will cost cheaper, or other niceties…. That said I prefer the kid the B’S drafted…. It's always about both the player, and the return --- at least it should be. Cam Neely was acquired by trade. It is a mixture of draft and trades. The center position is probably going to be a draft.
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