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Post by fifthline on Dec 27, 2023 17:00:21 GMT
Bring back the Boston Rag Tell all your buddies That it ain’t no drag Bring back the Boston Rag
The Dan, 70s vibe, maybe Derick Sanderson is available.
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Post by mdsizzle on Dec 27, 2023 17:38:16 GMT
Milbury is like leftover turkey, there's only so many ways you can prepare it and then you get really tired of it. Mad Mike had his run stay retired. Even certified meat heads say he's a meat head... Equivalent to snoop dog saying you smoke entirety too much pot.
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Post by socca10 on Dec 27, 2023 18:05:40 GMT
So, for those who didn't already know this, Jack Edwards was diagnosed with prostate cancer and has/had been going through treatment. From what I understand, some of the medicines required for cancer treatment have side effects that can impair speech. I can't say this is 100% confirmed, but if true would explain not only his speech issues, but also why NESN has stood by him through it all. Also, having met Jack Edwards years ago, I can tell you unequivocally that he's a really great person. I cringe when he calls games now, for sure, but I also wish him good health and have more tolerance for his foibles just because I'm sympathetic to the man.
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Post by dannycater on Dec 27, 2023 19:04:53 GMT
So, for those who didn't already know this, Jack Edwards was diagnosed with prostate cancer and has/had been going through treatment. From what I understand, some of the medicines required for cancer treatment have side effects that can impair speech. I can't say this is 100% confirmed, but if true would explain not only his speech issues, but also why NESN has stood by him through it all. Also, having met Jack Edwards years ago, I can tell you unequivocally that he's a really great person. I cringe when he calls games now, for sure, but I also wish him good health and have more tolerance for his foibles just because I'm sympathetic to the man. And we all care about Jack despite his failings on the mic...another part of why I call it "sad."
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Post by MrHulot on Dec 27, 2023 19:15:08 GMT
So, for those who didn't already know this, Jack Edwards was diagnosed with prostate cancer and has/had been going through treatment. From what I understand, some of the medicines required for cancer treatment have side effects that can impair speech. I can't say this is 100% confirmed, but if true would explain not only his speech issues, but also why NESN has stood by him through it all. Also, having met Jack Edwards years ago, I can tell you unequivocally that he's a really great person. I cringe when he calls games now, for sure, but I also wish him good health and have more tolerance for his foibles just because I'm sympathetic to the man. I hope Jack has a full recovery. I like him.
My cousin was diagnosed with prostate cancer years ago, and they said "don't worry, we caught it early". Then COVID happened, and when he saw his doctor again, it was almost too late. Nasty stuff. Again, get well soon, Jack!
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Post by MrHulot on Dec 27, 2023 22:12:25 GMT
Milbury is like leftover turkey, there's only so many ways you can prepare it and then you get really tired of it. Mad Mike had his run stay retired. Does it have to be an ex-Bruin? If not, I wouldn't mind Roenick. Younger than Brick, and very opinionated. But he never played for the Bruins.
Don't know who would be a good choice if it has to be an ex-Bruin.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 27, 2023 22:22:00 GMT
[br I am of the school that says the play by play guys should talk as little as possible. I love some of the old baseball calls where you hear the ball hit the bat and the crowd and then all that's required from the PbP guy is 'can if corn'. Hard to say less with hockey PBP, but I'd love someone giving it a try. Always hated the call by Dick Stockton on 75 WS Fisk's HR on NBC....*if it's fair...home run*....yawn...yes, sometimes it's great to let the fans call it...or go nuts, but still have to say something that resonates the situation...Michaels did it a lot in big moments...you still have to be better than just "talk as little as possible." Yes. The implication is that when you talk is carefully chisen with a feel for the game and the information people need to process what they're seeing better than in silence. I know a great many people who prefer to watch the game with the sound off though becauae nothing is better than too much and too many guys are trying to be WWE commentators. Say the right things. Otherwise shut up.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 27, 2023 22:25:28 GMT
Mad Mike had his run stay retired. Does it have to be an ex-Bruin? If not, I wouldn't mind Roenick. Younger than Brick, and very opinionated. But he never played for the Bruins.
Don't know who would be a good choice if it has to be an ex-Bruin.Dave Lewis. Jack: the Bruins seem disco...ba...mubliarrd this period Dave. What do they need to do to get ber ah targ. Dave: "I honestly have no fucking clue, Jack. Not a fucking clue." Jack: Sofia...
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Post by nitelite on Dec 27, 2023 22:48:31 GMT
Bring back the Boston Rag Tell all your buddies That it ain’t no drag Bring back the Boston Rag The Dan, 70s vibe, maybe Derick Sanderson is available. I love Turk as a character & story telling! His color commentary was too over the top for me! Fuck! I even remember he complained about the workers at the Spectrum in Philly when they were replacing the glass one time! "I don't know what these clowns are doing replacing this glass! If this was the Boston Garden this game would've been back on 10 mins ago! Must be Ed Snider teeling his boys to extend this. "We need a momentum shift! Delay this game as long as possible!" I laughed at it, but I was like! "FUCK OFF DEREK!"
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Post by dannycater on Dec 27, 2023 23:06:02 GMT
Always hated the call by Dick Stockton on 75 WS Fisk's HR on NBC....*if it's fair...home run*....yawn...yes, sometimes it's great to let the fans call it...or go nuts, but still have to say something that resonates the situation...Michaels did it a lot in big moments...you still have to be better than just "talk as little as possible." Yes. The implication is that when you talk is carefully chisen with a feel for the game and the information people need to process what they're seeing better than in silence. I know a great many people who prefer to watch the game with the sound off though becauae nothing is better than too much and too many guys are trying to be WWE commentators. Say the right things. Otherwise shut up. Michaels 80 Olympics call easily the greatest PBP moment in PBP history...it's not even close...although what's incredible is up to that point, it was the call by Giants announcer Russ Hodgers...The Giants win the pennant, Bobby Thomson's HR to win it...really such an emotionally, homer, but great moment in sports...it sounds repetititive, but it's so on the money....great PBP guys find a way to say the right things at the right times...Like Jack Buck on Ozzie Smith's HR to win for Cards...*go crazy folks, go crazy*...you have to be able to convey the moment...Scully did it a number of times in his great career.
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Post by davinator on Dec 28, 2023 1:05:12 GMT
I agree! I have no issue with Brick! He's usually bang on the money on his assessment! Talks the right amount & isn't as big a homer as Turk was! He's not overbearing with his bias! I find that the fact he works with Jack he gets the "homer" tag attached to him unfairly. Jack is overtop most of the time. Brick is really good at explaining things and is absolutely not a homer, far from it. Yep, he's the first to call out the Bruins when their play is 'unacceptable '. But I don't have a problem with them presenting the game from the Bruins POV... NESN pays their cheques! What should we expect?
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Post by MrHulot on Dec 28, 2023 3:44:28 GMT
Does it have to be an ex-Bruin? If not, I wouldn't mind Roenick. Younger than Brick, and very opinionated. But he never played for the Bruins.
Don't know who would be a good choice if it has to be an ex-Bruin. Dave Lewis. Jack: the Bruins seem disco...ba...mubliarrd this period Dave. What do they need to do to get ber ah targ. Dave: "I honestly have no fucking clue, Jack. Not a fucking clue." Jack: Sofia...
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 29, 2023 19:34:14 GMT
Absolutely, said that earlier too...too each their own....the best ones though most people can see why they are great--Dan Kelly to name one of the all-time greats and perfect voice of NHL [br I am of the school that says the play by play guys should talk as little as possible. I love some of the old baseball calls where you hear the ball hit the bat and the crowd and then all that's required from the PbP guy is 'can if corn'. Hard to say less with hockey PBP, but I'd love someone giving it a try. Then stay away from the Gord Miller & Ray Ferraro combo, love talking half the period away about past experiences, jokes, poking fun at each other, on and on and on....... Thank goodness Ferraro left TSN, now Miller talks and talks with Mike Johnson, boring stories of course but they don't prattle on as long.
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Post by dannycater on Dec 29, 2023 20:47:47 GMT
Jennifer Botteril...she's okay...I don't mind her as much as some of the other females out there in the actual color position.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Dec 31, 2023 12:17:17 GMT
I don’t mind women of any colour, but none of them should be heard during a fucking hockey game. Wave the fucking Pom poms and shut the fuck up.
Ferraro McGuire Johnson all suck brutally. Worse than the women.
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 1, 2024 21:52:49 GMT
I don’t mind women of any colour, but none of them should be heard during a fucking hockey game. Wave the fucking Pom poms and shut the fuck up. Ferraro McGuire Johnson all suck brutally. Worse than the women. I don't like this "color woman" trend either. The woman who did play-by-play was even worse (haven't heard her lately). Stupid woke shit. Jack was okay last night. Slow but not slurry.
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Post by The OC on Jan 1, 2024 22:21:18 GMT
Loved the "Happy New Year Detroit!" finale to last night's game.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 2, 2024 0:20:36 GMT
Loved the "Happy New Year Detroit!" finale to last night's game. Even though it came out Sugyurt!
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 2, 2024 1:50:14 GMT
I don’t mind women of any colour, but none of them should be heard during a fucking hockey game. Wave the fucking Pom poms and shut the fuck up. Ferraro McGuire Johnson all suck brutally. Worse than the women. I don't like this "color woman" trend either. The woman who did play-by-play was even worse (haven't heard her lately). Stupid woke shit. Jack was okay last night. Slow but not slurry.Who fucking cares? The commentary is generally pointless bullshit complaining about the refs, praising Grz for no reason and shilling for the Sullivan Tire zombies. If having a dong made you good at that job, I guess half the guys doing it are just as Eddie Murphy suspected. Even GoAT agrees they're better than Ferraro and Johnson.
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 2, 2024 2:14:09 GMT
I don't like this "color woman" trend either. The woman who did play-by-play was even worse (haven't heard her lately). Stupid woke shit. Jack was okay last night. Slow but not slurry. Who fucking cares? The commentary is generally pointless bullshit complaining about the refs, praising Grz for no reason and shilling for the Sullivan Tire zombies. If having a dong made you good at that job, I guess half the guys doing it are just as Eddie Murphy suspected. Even GoAT agrees they're better than Ferraro and Johnson. If you can come up with an alto voiced woman instead of the screeching soprano Valkyries who did play-by-play that caused my tinnitus to act up every time one of the teams scored, I think I will be okay. And I stand by my statement that it's stupid and unnecessary woke shit.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 2, 2024 4:07:58 GMT
Who fucking cares? The commentary is generally pointless bullshit complaining about the refs, praising Grz for no reason and shilling for the Sullivan Tire zombies. If having a dong made you good at that job, I guess half the guys doing it are just as Eddie Murphy suspected. Even GoAT agrees they're better than Ferraro and Johnson. If you can come up with an alto voiced woman instead of the screeching soprano Valkyries who did play-by-play that caused my tinnitus to act up every time one of the teams scored, I think I will be okay. And I stand by my statement that it's stupid and unnecessary woke shit.I suffered through Ed Whalen, Howie Meeker, Paul Romaniuk and dozens of other bad voiced dipshits who couldn't blame bad voices on estrogen. The flat "prostyle" voices we get now are bland crap like what MMA had become. The women in general aren't significantly worse. I don't see why it's stupid. Or "woke" - which I think is a stupid neologism when used by either side. Like five hundred other things about the way the game is changing, it's about cash. Just like the NHL backstopping the PCS&P. You, me, NAS - they figure they aren't getting more out of us and even if we get turned off by some things we'll probably still want to watch for the game itself. We'll turn off the volume or switch to the away feed. No difference for them. But if they can get more women to think there's a place for them in hockey, cha ching. New revenue streams. New audience. I think that's probably the opposite of stupid just in a way we donmt like.
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Post by The OC on Jan 2, 2024 4:55:07 GMT
I have no problem with women joining the broadcast team but any female play by play announcers I've heard have sucked.
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 2, 2024 6:29:27 GMT
If you can come up with an alto voiced woman instead of the screeching soprano Valkyries who did play-by-play that caused my tinnitus to act up every time one of the teams scored, I think I will be okay. And I stand by my statement that it's stupid and unnecessary woke shit. I suffered through Ed Whalen, Howie Meeker, Paul Romaniuk and dozens of other bad voiced dipshits who couldn't blame bad voices on estrogen. The flat "prostyle" voices we get now are bland crap like what MMA had become. The women in general aren't significantly worse. I don't see why it's stupid. Or "woke" - which I think is a stupid neologism when used by either side. Like five hundred other things about the way the game is changing, it's about cash. Just like the NHL backstopping the PCS&P. You, me, NAS - they figure they aren't getting more out of us and even if we get turned off by some things we'll probably still want to watch for the game itself. We'll turn off the volume or switch to the away feed. No difference for them. But if they can get more women to think there's a place for them in hockey, cha ching. New revenue streams. New audience. I think that's probably the opposite of stupid just in a way we donmt like. Good for you if you're okay with it. I for one disagree.
I can understand them trying to find new ways to sell the game. That is not even a bad thing, if it keeps one of my two favorite sports available for me to watch. But I still think it's woke and stupid to employ a woman with a voice as grating as nails on a chalkboard as play-by-play announcer, her sole qualification probably that she's female and knows a little bit about hockey. I also think it's woke and insane to try to tell people that it's okay and even attractive to be grotesquely overweight like, say, the human whale Chrissy Metz. (Or my former co-worker, a very sweet and gentle man who had one huge problem, food, literally tons of it. R.I.P. "Rock Bobster")
Maybe I'm biased because I have seen the reversal of "male dominance", for instance when a clearly more qualified male candidate with tons of experience (not me!) gets beaten out for a job by a woman who has never worked in that particular field in her life and of course has absolutely no idea what she'll be doing, even though there are already more female than male employees, because management has an agenda. (And of course they had to let her go after just a few weeks, because she wasn't even smart enough to use a xerox machine without damaging it.)
I don't think I am sexist - I have no problem with the fact that my wife has a much better salary than mine, I am totally for equal salaries for the same job regardless of gender or race or age or whatever, but there are still things that don't make a lot of sense to me.
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Post by Fletcher on Jan 2, 2024 14:28:24 GMT
If you can come up with an alto voiced woman instead of the screeching soprano Valkyries who did play-by-play that caused my tinnitus to act up every time one of the teams scored, I think I will be okay. And I stand by my statement that it's stupid and unnecessary woke shit. New revenue streams. New audience. ^That's what Bud Light thought, in underestimating the pettiness and herd mentality of cancel culture. Of course, women in the studio are probably not egregious enough to capture the Twitter mob's attention. These days you have to be careful about 'insulting' your audience, because your audience is sensitive and snowflakey. I'll admit to not being overly impressed by the first females in the color commentary spot, but they have so many people (men) doing it now who are not very good at all, so the gender is not a line of distinction for me. Nor do I think it's woke to allow a female to try to do a traditionally male job.
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Post by dannycater on Jan 2, 2024 15:13:47 GMT
So, for those who didn't already know this, Jack Edwards was diagnosed with prostate cancer and has/had been going through treatment. From what I understand, some of the medicines required for cancer treatment have side effects that can impair speech. I can't say this is 100% confirmed, but if true would explain not only his speech issues, but also why NESN has stood by him through it all. Also, having met Jack Edwards years ago, I can tell you unequivocally that he's a really great person. I cringe when he calls games now, for sure, but I also wish him good health and have more tolerance for his foibles just because I'm sympathetic to the man. And we all care about Jack despite his failings on the mic...another part of why I call it "sad." It's bizarre about "be careful what you wish for"...I'm not a fan of Albert on TNT broadcasts--I liked Marv back in the day when he did the NHL Game of Week national (hated Al, who was awful)...I hated Faust...So hearing Edwards for some reason was easier for me and I guess I am used to his energy--something he has abundance of to offset his word issues (also haven't heard the hyena laugh as he is pauses in recent broadcasts--wondering if someone told him to concentrate on NOT DOING that)...I love John Forslund yet he is stuck in Seattle and on radio now...It's a sick cycle. Goucher is Vegas, but not National like Forslund who was doing more and more before the NBC to TNT/ESPN switch...John Kelly on St. Louis broadcasts but not heard nationally (why? he is great). I don't really care for McDonough either. Wish we can get great announcers for National TV, not the "usual suspects" who others feel are great. Forslund is great---and no one gets to hear him...just like Bob Miller was with the Kings in obscurity outside of Los Angeles...sad.
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