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Post by jmwalters on Jul 4, 2015 14:24:20 GMT
2006. Some kid named Marchand. 2008's third rounder is playing in Winnipeg. They did go back to the Dub a couple of times after Hamill, taking Button in 2009 and the Cunnyhammer. They kept Hamill around hoping he'd figure it our for a couple of years after that, so I don't think it's entirely on Hamill. On the other hand, they drafted two players from the Q this year; the last Q player they had picked was Jordy Caron. The last three drafts, they've take two total players from the OHL...and both from the Sault Greyhounds. You have to wonder if this is part of what got some scouts fired. And it's curious that the Blair Reid and Malkoc finally got some traction this year, but even more curious that Denis Leblanc is gone the year they pick two Q prospects. I also notice Adam Creighton is now an amateur scout - is he going to take on Ontario and Quebec? They haven't replaced those firings yet. So its been around 10 years since the B's drafted a 3rd liner that actually made it to the teams roster.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 4, 2015 15:33:40 GMT
2006. Some kid named Marchand. 2008's third rounder is playing in Winnipeg. They did go back to the Dub a couple of times after Hamill, taking Button in 2009 and the Cunnyhammer. They kept Hamill around hoping he'd figure it our for a couple of years after that, so I don't think it's entirely on Hamill. On the other hand, they drafted two players from the Q this year; the last Q player they had picked was Jordy Caron. The last three drafts, they've take two total players from the OHL...and both from the Sault Greyhounds. You have to wonder if this is part of what got some scouts fired. And it's curious that the Blair Reid and Malkoc finally got some traction this year, but even more curious that Denis Leblanc is gone the year they pick two Q prospects. I also notice Adam Creighton is now an amateur scout - is he going to take on Ontario and Quebec? They haven't replaced those firings yet. So its been around 10 years since the B's drafted ANYONE that actually made it to the teams roster. Fixed it for you.
(Yea, I know, Pastrnak, Spooner, Hamilton etc. - it's a joke, ya yutzes)
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 4, 2015 15:42:46 GMT
2006. Some kid named Marchand. 2008's third rounder is playing in Winnipeg. They did go back to the Dub a couple of times after Hamill, taking Button in 2009 and the Cunnyhammer. They kept Hamill around hoping he'd figure it our for a couple of years after that, so I don't think it's entirely on Hamill. On the other hand, they drafted two players from the Q this year; the last Q player they had picked was Jordy Caron. The last three drafts, they've take two total players from the OHL...and both from the Sault Greyhounds. You have to wonder if this is part of what got some scouts fired. And it's curious that the Blair Reid and Malkoc finally got some traction this year, but even more curious that Denis Leblanc is gone the year they pick two Q prospects. I also notice Adam Creighton is now an amateur scout - is he going to take on Ontario and Quebec? They haven't replaced those firings yet. So its been around 10 years since the B's drafted a 3rd liner that actually made it to the teams roster. Seriously, though - this doesn't mean as much as it might seem. Since Marchand was drafted, the Bruins have drafted Hutchinson ('08), Button ('09), Camara ('11), Grizzlechick ('12), and Cehlarik ('13) in the third round - not ten guys, but five (not counting Vladar since he hasn't had a chance to make it yet). Hutchinson didn't make the Bruins but he is an NHLer. Button was a throw-in in the Seguin trade who now plays in Germany (strange note: he never scored a goal for the P-Bruins in 6 games over three seasons, but had 3 in 25 games with Texas the year after the trade). Camara was briefly interesting, but now looks like an ECHL candidate. Griz is still in college, so he hasn't tried to make it. Cehlarik is still in Europe. So that's what, a B for drafting an NHLer who didn't make it in Boston, one F, one solid D, and two incompletes. I'm not sure you can conclude anything from that body of evidence other than that ten years is not necessarily a long enough sample to judge drafting.
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Post by jmwalters on Jul 4, 2015 16:49:50 GMT
So its been around 10 years since the B's drafted a 3rd liner that actually made it to the teams roster. Seriously, though - this doesn't mean as much as it might seem. Since Marchand was drafted, the Bruins have drafted Hutchinson ('08), Button ('09), Camara ('11), Grizzlechick ('12), and Cehlarik ('13) in the third round - not ten guys, but five (not counting Vladar since he hasn't had a chance to make it yet). Hutchinson didn't make the Bruins but he is an NHLer. Button was a throw-in in the Seguin trade who now plays in Germany (strange note: he never scored a goal for the P-Bruins in 6 games over three seasons, but had 3 in 25 games with Texas the year after the trade). Camara was briefly interesting, but now looks like an ECHL candidate. Griz is still in college, so he hasn't tried to make it. Cehlarik is still in Europe. So that's what, a B for drafting an NHLer who didn't make it in Boston, one F, one solid D, and two incompletes. I'm not sure you can conclude anything from that body of evidence other than that ten years is not necessarily a long enough sample to judge drafting. Oh I completely agree. I was just referencing that if Hamill were drafted this season in the 3rd round our expectations for him would be not even close to what it was when he was drafted.
It is true...drafting is always a crap shoot for anyone not named McGod.
It is best we all remember that when we get all giddy at the number of picks the B's had in 2015.
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Post by Fletcher on Jul 4, 2015 19:05:08 GMT
I think Kuraly is going back to Miami actually. I mixed that up.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 6, 2015 19:12:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 11:50:41 GMT
Mark Divver @markdivver Jul 8
Word is Matt Grzelcyk recovering from May knee surgery. That's why he won't be at Bs camp. Likely to miss regular-season games.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 10, 2015 14:10:48 GMT
@kluedeke29:
"Providence Bruins F Paul Carey signs with the Caps- Hershey continues loading up in AHL arms race."
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 18, 2015 0:04:00 GMT
nesn.com/2015/07/bruins-draft-pick-zach-senyshyn-completes-impressive-development-camp/"Senyshyn scored two goals with an assist in Friday’s scrimmage and was among the best players on the ice. “Throwing on the colors and playing a game for the first time was a little bit nerve-wracking, but it was a lot of fun out there,” Senyshyn said. “It’s a development camp and I learned a lot and I really developed over the course of this week working with these coaches and working with the players as well. It was nice to be able to use what they taught us over the course of this week — use the puck protection skills and kind of using what we learned in a game setting. It was nice to kind of be able to show what I was able to do and kind of skate and score a couple of goals. It was a lot of fun.” If the Bruins didn’t take Senyshyn at No. 15, a few other teams likely would have jumped at the opportunity later in the first round. It’s been speculated that the Toronto Maple Leafs, whose front office is now among the smartest in the league with the addition of assistant general manager Kyle Dubas and an impressive analytics staff, were considering taking Senyshyn 24th overall. Interestingly enough, Toronto traded that pick and moved out of the first round shortly after the B’s took Senyshyn. “There was a couple teams that stepped up after the draft and said they would have taken me in that late first round,” Senyshyn said."
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Post by 50belowzero on Jul 18, 2015 6:22:05 GMT
nesn.com/2015/07/bruins-draft-pick-zach-senyshyn-completes-impressive-development-camp/"Senyshyn scored two goals with an assist in Friday’s scrimmage and was among the best players on the ice. “Throwing on the colors and playing a game for the first time was a little bit nerve-wracking, but it was a lot of fun out there,” Senyshyn said. “It’s a development camp and I learned a lot and I really developed over the course of this week working with these coaches and working with the players as well. It was nice to be able to use what they taught us over the course of this week — use the puck protection skills and kind of using what we learned in a game setting. It was nice to kind of be able to show what I was able to do and kind of skate and score a couple of goals. It was a lot of fun.” If the Bruins didn’t take Senyshyn at No. 15, a few other teams likely would have jumped at the opportunity later in the first round. It’s been speculated that the Toronto Maple Leafs, whose front office is now among the smartest in the league with the addition of assistant general manager Kyle Dubas and an impressive analytics staff, were considering taking Senyshyn 24th overall. Interestingly enough, Toronto traded that pick and moved out of the first round shortly after the B’s took Senyshyn. “There was a couple teams that stepped up after the draft and said they would have taken me in that late first round,” Senyshyn said." By who's guidelines?
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 19, 2015 16:14:18 GMT
www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=775133&navid=nhl:topheads"I don't know if we were surprised, but when you see that, you open your eyes," Bruins development coach Jay Pandolfo said. "You think maybe he's closer than further away for sure. He had a great year last year. "Now sometimes sophomore year can be a little tougher. Guys kind of know how he plays now, and it'll be a little harder for him. So it'll be interesting to see how he does this year. But the way he looks out there right now, I mean he's headed in the right direction. He's another guy that's gotten stronger." Pandolfo praised Heinen's poise with the puck, release and shot, and singled him out among the large group of prospects in the camp for making things look easy. But Pandolfo also said Heinen needs to get stronger and a little bigger. "I think I need to put on some size, try to get stronger in the gym and work on my first few steps, try to get a little bit quicker," Heinen said."
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 20, 2015 2:31:43 GMT
Hockey Guru Esposito on "in the slot" radio show and The Lufaland fanclub. Can't argue with that.
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Post by dezaruchi on Jul 20, 2015 6:07:58 GMT
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Post by badhabitude on Jul 20, 2015 12:05:48 GMT
It's July. So it is meaningless. They're all just kids you know. Have you seen them play?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2015 13:49:32 GMT
It's July. So it is meaningless. They're all just kids you know. Have you seen them play? I have seen nine of them play in scheduled games in their leagues .......but none of them in a July inter-scrimmage development game. And you're right .........it's July........it's meaningless .......it's a development camp........... and positions on their teams for this upcoming season will not be determined by this camp. It was a time for learning from Bruin's personnel, meeting future teammates and to know what pro hockey is about. Hockey begins on the ice in the fall........not July. Don't build it up to more then that........because it isn't.
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Post by Fletcher on Jul 20, 2015 15:54:20 GMT
This is based on nothing but early impressions, but it seems to me that the enthusiasm meter for the people who cover the Bruins is noticeably higher on Senyshen/Carlo than it is on Zboril/Debrusk.
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Post by badhabitude on Jul 20, 2015 16:29:56 GMT
This is based on nothing but early impressions, but it seems to me that the enthusiasm meter for the people who cover the Bruins is noticeably higher on Senyshen/Carlo than it is on Zboril/Debrusk. Based upon their performance at camp, I find that reasonable.
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Post by badhabitude on Jul 20, 2015 16:35:48 GMT
It's July. So it is meaningless. They're all just kids you know. Have you seen them play? I have seen nine of them play in scheduled games in their leagues .......but none of them in a July inter-scrimmage development game. And you're right .........it's July........it's meaningless .......it's a development camp........... and positions on their teams for this upcoming season will not be determined by this camp. It was a time for learning from Bruin's personnel, meeting future teammates and to know what pro hockey is about. Hockey begins on the ice in the fall........not July. Don't build it up to more then that........because it isn't. How am I building it up to more than that? Yes, it was just a development camp where players displayed their current skills. Does that provide a hint of their potential? Possibly. Possibly not.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 21, 2015 13:51:02 GMT
bruins.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=40700"This year’s camp featured a 37-man roster, an unusually large number of players. customary development camp leader, said Pandolfo didn’t miss a single beat. “I was really excited about turning the page and looking forward to this week, and I don’t think Jay and his staff and his direction for the camp disappointed, in any regard,” he said. “I think [Friday’s] scrimmage and stuff really highlighted a lot of things during the course of the week that we were hoping to see come out, and guys had fun. “He had an idea of the direction he wanted to take some of the things, and you have to give a person like that latitude to go out and see how he wants to see his own vision of how a camp will continually evolve,” Sweeney said. While much of the focus during the course of development camp is on the on-ice sessions, plenty of the lessons these players remember from these camps stems from what they learn off the ice. They learn what it takes to be a professional hockey player. They learn how to build relationships with team personnel and with each other. That being said, though, there were still several players proved especially impressive throughout the camp’s four on-ice sessions. Sweeney mentioned 2015 first-rounder Zach Senyshyn, NCAA free agent acquisition Colby Cave and recently-signed 2013 pick Anton Blidh among those who stood out. But by week’s end, each and every player in attendance took something away from the camp because each and every one of them learned something, and that, of course, is the goal of development camp. The goal is to teach, and to help these young players grow. “There’s a lot of teaching; it was a real teaching environment, which is what Jay wanted to be consistent with, as to what our approach has been in the past,” Sweeney said. “He wanted to carry that forward. I think he did a good job.” O’Gara, who wrapped up his fifth camp this summer and will head back to Yale for his senior season this fall, took special notice of many of the same players as Sweeney, particularly after the on-ice portion of camp ended with a 4-on-4 open format scrimmage. “Zach Senyshyn today — he had a heck of a day,” O’Gara said. “These guys are all talented. … You see it on 4-on-4 — it’s tough, especially when you’re playing one D, three forwards. It’s a fast-paced game, a lot of ice, but you see guys are able to slow it down, and it’s impressive, and you see where you have to be and where you can be."
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jul 23, 2015 13:12:57 GMT
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Post by kelvana33 on Aug 6, 2015 14:33:19 GMT
Interesting that 4 of them joined the organization this spring.
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Post by Fletcher on Aug 6, 2015 19:20:00 GMT
I surprised that Malcolm Subban is #1. I'm glad that perception is out there, but I'm surprised.
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Post by 50belowzero on Aug 6, 2015 19:50:50 GMT
I surprised that Malcolm Subban is #1. I'm glad that perception is out there, but I'm surprised. Me too, it means someone other than Chow has high hopes for him! Trade bait is always better,and gets a better return, when the prospect is highly thought of.
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