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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 12:12:45 GMT
Mark Divver @markdivver · 13 hrs 13 hours ago
Liked what I saw of St. Petersburg D Max Chudinov for Russia vs. US today. Bruins 7th rounder in 2010 plays PP point, poised with puck.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 17, 2015 14:08:26 GMT
I will pay special attention to him today,watched part of the USA/Russia game and can't say as i noticed him or that his play jumped out at me, but then i wasn't really paying attention to him.To be honest,i forgot he was a B's pick or that he was even on the Russkie squad,if i'd even known that i would have made a point of it.Thanks for the heads up,Go Canada!!
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on May 17, 2015 15:13:43 GMT
I hope the Bruins keep RFAs Warsofsky, Carey, Jeremy Smith and Florek. It will be interesting to see if Cody Payne or Mitchell Dempsey will finally don a PBruins uniform.
Interesting years coming up for KoKo and Griffith. Hoping KoKo gets a fair shot at least as the extra forward with the Bruins. I would guess that Cehlarik anf Blidh stay in Sweden for another year.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 17, 2015 15:17:09 GMT
I hope the Bruins keep RFAs Warsofsky, Carey, Jeremy Smith and Florek. It will be interesting to see if Cody Payne or Mitchell Dempsey will finally don a PBruins uniform. Interesting years coming up for KoKo and Griffith. Hoping KoKo gets a fair shot at least as the extra forward with the Bruins. I would guess that Cehlarik anf Blidh stay in Sweden for another year. They have to make the move to the NHL sometime right? I don't know about Griffith,from what i've seen he isn't 1st line RW material but that doesn't mean he couldn't find a spot,3rd line? I hope the B's give Koko a real shot,its time to see if he can make the jump.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2015 21:14:38 GMT
I hope the Bruins keep RFAs Warsofsky, Carey, Jeremy Smith and Florek. It will be interesting to see if Cody Payne or Mitchell Dempsey will finally don a PBruins uniform. Interesting years coming up for KoKo and Griffith. Hoping KoKo gets a fair shot at least as the extra forward with the Bruins. I would guess that Cehlarik anf Blidh stay in Sweden for another year. Cody Payne was traded to Dallas in the Jagr deal ( Badhab could tell you this ).............he was an invite to the Panthers training camp last fall. How do I know this ? He was an Ice Dog last year as an overager...............man did he suck. Big guy who played soft.......but come with a reputation of being tough. I didn't see it nor do I get where he got that reputation from. No friggin way I want him anywhere near a Bruins jersey. Neither would you.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on May 18, 2015 2:36:47 GMT
Two websites said he was still Bruins property and always had thought it was just MacDermid that went to Dallas. Totally forgot about that. The new GM might have to re-sign Rob Flick then.
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Post by badhabitude on May 18, 2015 18:58:03 GMT
And hopefully dump Tommy Cross. Please.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 18, 2015 20:24:06 GMT
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2015 2:00:18 GMT
I think Payne's the classic story of a crusher who wants to be rusher, and will soon find himself an usher.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2015 2:12:11 GMT
Where'd you read it? Because I'm pretty sure it's wrong, unless they did something in the last CBA I'm not aware of. The rule the source is referring to is basically that "drafting" a player means you have exclusive negotiating rights with the player for two years provided you do certain administrative things like make at least one serious contract offer. NCAA players are an exception here because they have 4 years of college eligibility that they lose as soon as they sign a contract, so instead of the two years, you have two years or until June 1 or July 1 (can't recall which) of the year the player leaves school to sign him. European draftees are also different. I think part of the deal with the IIHF is that you can leave a guy to develop in European pro leagues and keep your exclusive NA neg rights because signing him to a deal would mean he can't sign a competing deal with a European team. So, basically, the 2 year rule doesn't apply to European players playing in Europe - think Soderberg, for one example of a player whose existing neg rights stayed Boston property even though he'd never signed a deal.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 19, 2015 2:25:30 GMT
Where'd you read it? Because I'm pretty sure it's wrong, unless they did something in the last CBA I'm not aware of. The rule the source is referring to is basically that "drafting" a player means you have exclusive negotiating rights with the player for two years provided you do certain administrative things like make at least one serious contract offer. NCAA players are an exception here because they have 4 years of college eligibility that they lose as soon as they sign a contract, so instead of the two years, you have two years or until June 1 or July 1 (can't recall which) of the year the player leaves school to sign him. European draftees are also different. I think part of the deal with the IIHF is that you can leave a guy to develop in European pro leagues and keep your exclusive NA neg rights because signing him to a deal would mean he can't sign a competing deal with a European team. So, basically, the 2 year rule doesn't apply to European players playing in Europe - think Soderberg, for one example of a player whose existing neg rights stayed Boston property even though he'd never signed a deal. Book, I only read it on the page I provided above. I had no idea and didn't find out much through a minimal google search. I hope it's wrong.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2015 2:34:30 GMT
So, Breen, Florek, Worseoffsky, and Carey (acquired in the Caron deal) are all group 6 UFAs, so they can walk to wherever they might get a shot to play some NHL games. I think the guy most likely to take a walk is Worseoffsky - I'd bet he goes to Edmonchuk. Oh yeah, Tommy Cross is also Group 6.
There aren't a lot of prospects in Boston's system pushing for a spot in Providence, so I won't be surprised if they re-sign all of their RFA/UFA guys with the possible exception of Adam Morrison. All of last year's picks are in college except Pastrnak and Johansson (Jonkoping). Dempsey's the only one from two years back who's not in college or Europe. Three years back, Subban and Griffith are already P-Bruins, Benning and Grizzledchick are still in college and Hargrove is just recently on board.
I doubt shit-disturber Divver (Lol) is suggesting that the Chud is on his way to Boston any time soon - more likely that he's a what might have been pick - a 7th round flyer who was like Fetisov and Larionov in the day in that there was no way to know if he'd ever come over.
Curious to see how McIntyre does in Providence. Is he Ryan Miller or is he Matt Dalton?
I'd really like to see Khokhlachev and Griffith make the jump, but so much will depend on opportunity. I don't think they've got a great situation. Last year was the great situation and neither could do anything with the chance. I'm hoping for guys like Ferlin, Florek and Flick to develop into hard nosed bottom six forwards who can give the Bruins what last year's Merlot line couldn't.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2015 2:36:37 GMT
Where'd you read it? Because I'm pretty sure it's wrong, unless they did something in the last CBA I'm not aware of. The rule the source is referring to is basically that "drafting" a player means you have exclusive negotiating rights with the player for two years provided you do certain administrative things like make at least one serious contract offer. NCAA players are an exception here because they have 4 years of college eligibility that they lose as soon as they sign a contract, so instead of the two years, you have two years or until June 1 or July 1 (can't recall which) of the year the player leaves school to sign him. European draftees are also different. I think part of the deal with the IIHF is that you can leave a guy to develop in European pro leagues and keep your exclusive NA neg rights because signing him to a deal would mean he can't sign a competing deal with a European team. So, basically, the 2 year rule doesn't apply to European players playing in Europe - think Soderberg, for one example of a player whose existing neg rights stayed Boston property even though he'd never signed a deal. Book, I only read it on the page I provided above. I had no idea and didn't find out much through a minimal google search. I hope it's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong then. All due respect to that site, I don't know that the columists they have actually know the ins and outs of the CBA. I'd dig up the CBA language, but...well, trust me on this until someone other than hockey'sfuture jumps on the story.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 19, 2015 3:28:49 GMT
Book, I only read it on the page I provided above. I had no idea and didn't find out much through a minimal google search. I hope it's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong then. All due respect to that site, I don't know that the columists they have actually know the ins and outs of the CBA. I'd dig up the CBA language, but...well, trust me on this until someone other than hockey'sfuture jumps on the story. Yeah, I just found an article on the CBA stating that teams hold negotiating rights on a player until he's 22 or 23 if he plays in a European league. I'm happy to be corrected. Thanks.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on May 19, 2015 3:36:10 GMT
"Curious to see how McIntyre does in Providence"
As long as he doesn't have Hutchinson PBruins numbers but Hutchinson Winnipeg numbers.
College players rule! ~ Don Sweeney
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2015 14:31:00 GMT
"Curious to see how McIntyre does in Providence" As long as he doesn't have Hutchinson PBruins numbers but Hutchinson Winnipeg numbers. College players rule! ~ Don Sweeney "You go to hell! You go the hell and you die!" - Eric Cartman.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 28, 2015 0:12:36 GMT
Recent prospect updates from Bruins.com
BostonBruins.com -- The Boston Bruins have gotten significant mileage from their prospects playing in the NCAA this season.
Two of the biggest impact players have come out of the NCHC, where both Zane McIntyre (University of North Dakota) and Danton Heinen (University of Denver) scored major conference awards for the 2014-15 campaign. McIntyre was named the conference’s outstanding goaltender, a Hobey Baker finalist and was named the winner of the Mike Richter award as the NCAA’s top goalie. Heinen was named NCHC Rookie of the Year after leading the Pioneers in scoring with an impressive 45 points in 38 games. His top-end hockey IQ is one of the many reasons he finished in the top-15 of NCAA scoring as a freshman.
Closer to home, Boston University captain Matt Grzelcyk capped a sensational run to the Hockey East championship by earning conference First Team All-Star honors. With a career season in all offensive categories, the 2012 third-rounder continues to impress with his speed, smarts and energy from the blue line. He also secured the Terriers’ first Beanpot championship since 2009 with an overtime strike to cement his reputation as a character performer in the clutch.
Northeastern defenseman Matt Benning earned Hockey East All-Star Honorable Mention with a solid sophomore season. Although he did not score any goals, the deft puck-mover registered 24 assists (third on the team) and points (fourth on the team) from the blue line. He finished with just one helper fewer than each of the Huskies’ top scorers Kevin Roy and Dalen Hedges.
Boston College sophomore Ryan Fitzgerald showed glimpses into what his next couple of years at the Heights might look like offensively, as he finished with the team lead in goals despite a disappointing Hockey East tournament and Beanpot.
Also making a positive impression in collegiate hockey this season was Notre Dame freshman Anders Bjork, a fifth-round draft choice last June who brings speed and a strong two-way game to the mix. Bjork had a solid second half after playing sparingly to begin the year. Harvard defenseman Wiley Sherman is a huge (6-foot-6) but raw project. He will be an important piece for the Crimson moving forward, as players with his size and mobility are rare.
The Bruins signed rugged forward and 2012 seventh-rounder Colton Hargrove to an entry-level contract, while adding UMass free agent Frank Vatrano to the mix as well. The former Boston Jr. Bruins scoring ace is an intriguing risk-reward signing if he can round out the other areas of his game as a pro.
Perhaps the most underrated of all Boston prospects in the college ranks this season is Yale junior Rob O’Gara. The final pick of the fifth round in 2011 has the size, intelligence and attitude to one day be a solid top-four NHL defender with the Bruins. At 6-foot-4, 215 pounds he continues to grow into his sizable frame, and with his fine skating/footwork and long reach, he’s tough to beat 1-on-1. This season, the Long Island native took a major step forward offensively, finishing tied with friend and junior hockey teammate Frank DiChiara for the Bulldogs team lead in scoring with 21 points.
While O’Gara will head back to New Haven for his senior season, it might not be too much longer after that before Bruins fans are seeing him in the Boston lineup. He’s perhaps the best-kept secret in the B’s organization and seems to be getting better at each and every viewing.
Although not yet an NCAA player, 2014 second-rounder Ryan Donato bounced back from a disappointing loss in the New England prep championship game vs. Salisbury to make an impact for the USHL’s Omaha Lancers. In just eight games with the Lancers, he racked up five goals and five assists and chipped in an additional goal in three playoffs appearances. He’ll be in Cambridge next season playing for his dad at Harvard. Bruins Prospect Snapshot:
Frank Vatrano, LW, Providence Bruins (AHL)
Scouting report: East Longmeadow Mass. native is built like a fire hydrant but moves with fluid agility and power despite a short stride. Although not tall at about 5-foot-10, Vatrano has a low center of gravity and is strong on his skates, often getting up under defenders to outmuscle them for loose pucks and fighting through checks in traffic. Deadly between the hashmarks…shot and blurry-fast release are already NHL-caliber. Possesses a natural nose for the net and can wire the puck to any corner from just about anywhere in the prime scoring areas. Three-zone game is something Vatrano will need to improve at the next level. Plays with enthusiasm and will go straight to the net…loves to score. Needs to prove that he can dedicate himself as a pro both in terms of on-ice ability and conditioning.
Outlook: With the talent to eventually play a regular shift and contribute on the power play in the NHL, Vatrano is one of the more interesting free agent signings this spring because he had a couple of years of eligibility remaining for the Minutemen. The team is looking to add more scorers to the mix, and despite the lack of ideal size and speed, the 21-year-old is a pure finisher who may be on the cusp of putting everything together. He’ll be one to watch in Providence as the latest local kid to get a chance to one day put on the spoked-B and skate for the hometown team.
Kirk Luedeke covers the Boston Bruins and NHL prospects for the New England Hockey Journal and is a contributing editor and hockey scout for the Red Line Report. You can follow him on Twitter at: @kluedeke29
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Post by 50belowzero on May 28, 2015 0:24:55 GMT
Have read some good reports on Danton Heinen,C,6',played in the NCAA for the U of Denver. Interested to see how he does in B's camp this fall. Maybe Fletch got a closer look and can file a report,or maybe he did already on BDC,can't remember.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 28, 2015 0:38:30 GMT
Have read some good reports on Danton Heinen,C,6',played in the NCAA for the U of Denver. Interested to see how he does in B's camp this fall. Maybe Fletch got a closer look and can file a report,or maybe he did already on BDC,can't remember. I'm also liking what I read about O'Gara. Steady offensive progression and actually gained another inch and 20 pounds since he was drafted in 2011. He's now 6'4-205. www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=128376
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on May 28, 2015 0:40:19 GMT
Of all the prospects I have seen O'Gara looks like to me he could handle the riggers of heavy hitting in the AHL right away.
Agree Heinen having scored 45 points in 38 games and finishing in the top-15 of NCAA scoring as a freshman is impressive.
Just need to stay with the plan of keeping the CHL snobs out of Providence.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 28, 2015 1:01:40 GMT
Of all the prospects I have seen O'Gara looks like to me he could handle the riggers of heavy hitting in the AHL right away. Agree Heinen having scored 45 points in 38 games and finishing in the top-15 of NCAA scoring as a freshman is impressive.
Just need to stay with the plan of keeping the CHL snobs out of Providence. Heinen could end up being a sweet pick at 116th. I think he only fell as low as he did because of a perceived lack of real competition. Before this year, the highest level he played was BCHL (ala Joe Colborne). If they re-did the 2014 draft today, there's a good chance he'd gone by the end of round 2. Maybe even a first round pick if you look at him next to the 15th overall. 15th pick-Dylan Larkin- 15G-32A-47Pts 116th pick-Danton Heinen-16G-29A-45Pts
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on May 28, 2015 1:10:36 GMT
PC certainly started to make up from his 1st 3 years of drafting.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 28, 2015 1:36:39 GMT
PC certainly started to make up from his 1st 3 years of drafting. I think people will change their stance on PC's drafting prowess in a few years (or sooner). I think there will be lots of PC Bruins picks playing in the NHL 3 years from now.
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Post by bookboy007 on May 28, 2015 11:40:38 GMT
There will have to be or the Bruins will be screwed. Hamill, Colborne and Caron will always linger like rotten eggs for this franchise, and it really isn't hard to boil the way the last few years went to a lack of viable prospects from 2007-2010. With no young players ready to make the jump at key forward positions, Chiarelli had to try everything from rehabbing Pouliot to the Bourque nepotism experiment to playing fuckyfuck with the over 35 contract rules and bonus structure to a 2 for 4 trade to bringing over a 27 yr old rookie to NCAA UFA signings to find ways to round out his roster. He had to be good at five things because he was bad at that one at a time in his career when he didn't have the experience he has now, though he should have been better given his role in Ottawa.
Since 2010, though, and based on nothing other than a little of this and a little of that which add up to nothing, I think there are about 10-12 guys who will play in the NHL who were drafted by the Bruins - excluding the guys who are already two or more seasons in the league.
2010 - Spooner, Trotman 2011 - O'Gara, maybe Ferlin and Khokhlachev 2012 - Subban, Griffith, maybe Benning 2013 - Arnesson, Cehlarik, maybe Fitzgerald 2014 - Pastrnak, Heinen.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 11:41:15 GMT
Just need to stay with the plan of keeping the CHL snobs out of Providence. So much for trading up and drafting the CHL's Sarnia Sting Pavel Zacha then. Oops I forgot ..........special exemption for Zacha.......with the absolute idea of him having an immediate impact in the NHL next year. No Providence down the road for this CHL player................make it happen PC DS.
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