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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 8, 2016 1:23:16 GMT
Kinda curious why Assange wouldn't just release or drop the emails now ? Especially if he knows there is something on the emails. It will have a much greater sting when released right before the first debate. If Assange really wants to help get an outsider into the white house, I would say, he needs to get his big secret out before Labor Day weekend. I was reading some very good republican campaign strategists that stated, Trump needs a turnaround in the unfavorablity amongst certain voters, in purple states, by then. Not that it will get me to vote or not vote for either canidate but if their is damning evidence in the emails, I want to see it as well. Assange should have two things on his mind right now. Not getting a bullet through his eye at the hands of the CIA and getting asylum in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the US.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 8, 2016 3:04:34 GMT
It will have a much greater sting when released right before the first debate. If Assange really wants to help get an outsider into the white house, I would say, he needs to get his big secret out before Labor Day weekend. I was reading some very good republican campaign strategists that stated, Trump needs a turnaround in the unfavorablity amongst certain voters, in purple states, by then. Not that it will get me to vote or not vote for either canidate but if their is damning evidence in the emails, I want to see it as well. Assange should have two things on his mind right now. Not getting a bullet through his eye at the hands of the CIA and getting asylum in a country that does not have an extradition treaty with the US. Assange to North Korea!
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Post by NAS on Aug 8, 2016 12:45:50 GMT
The Dems are all about scaring people. It's fucking pathetic. I was watching Big Brother last night and a Clinton ad came on. It showed a couple of clips of Trump acting like a dope, a couple of sound bites from people worried about the nuke codes and ended with "Donald Trump Too Dangerous".
Give me a friggin' break. Who says Clinton can handle that responsibility? And who ever thought it was the President alone? The SoD has to be involved as well. But really, Clinton is a woman. Women are erratic. Is she any more equipped mentally to handle nukes?
And when did all of this nuke bullshit begin anyway? I don't recall "Don't elect Obama. Black people are violent. He can't have nukes."
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 8, 2016 13:29:50 GMT
The Dems are all about scaring people. It's fucking pathetic. I was watching Big Brother last night and a Clinton ad came on. It showed a couple of clips of Trump acting like a dope, a couple of sound bites from people worried about the nuke codes and ended with "Donald Trump Too Dangerous". Give me a friggin' break. Who says Clinton can handle that responsibility? And who ever thought it was the President alone? The SoD has to be involved as well. But really, Clinton is a woman. Women are erratic. Is she any more equipped mentally to handle nukes? And when did all of this nuke bullshit begin anyway? I don't recall "Don't elect Obama. Black people are violent. He can't have nukes." Trump's more erratic and emotional and passive aggressive than any woman I've ever met. He put the nuke scare on the table as a calculated play to the kill em all and let God sort em out crowd. He's said why have them if you're not going to use them, and that he'd never say never to using them in Europe. Ironic to hear the Democrats are about scaring people. All I've heard - as a passive participant - from the mouths of Republicans is how under threat the US is from all sides because the current admin is weak etc. It's the main plank of their platform - not solving problems, but scaring people into giving them a wide open mandate to do whatever they want.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 8, 2016 13:36:45 GMT
This sounds like melodrama, Henry. The bias in the way you frame that comparison is telling. Trump's had more personal scandals and done more than make a few non PC statements, and framing it as a question of PC is an ingredient in his Kool Aid. In terms of the emails, the worst I've seen of them sounds like junior DNC staffers making ill-advised statements. No proof that they tampered with elections and certainly not in any way comparable to the gerrymandering the Republicans have done over the last decade. But that's the DNC - no direct connection to Clinton or her campaign. I would bet that the only reason there aren't similar RNC emails on wikileaks is that everyone knows the RNC brass were openly working to thwart Trump...and they failed, so there's no story. As for the press, Trump shuts out major news outfits he doesn't like. Hardly a bastion of the fourth amendment. Besides what I've mentioned, you ignored how they've interfered with the press. A staff writer from Politico used to send the DNC articles to edit before his own editor, Debbie Wasserman Schlutz called a big wig to complain about criticisms of her on MSNBC (Chuck Todd stepped in to help on that one) and they censured the word "rigged" when talking about the elections, and they've submitted questions to CNN and Meet the Press. What else? Joint fundraisers with the Washington Post, leaking damaging reports about Bernie to the WSJ...this is just what they talked email. There's much much more. Total tampering. www.dailywire.com/news/7777/5-emails-showing-dnc-was-coordinating-press-aaron-bandlerIf you didn't see where they tampered with the elections, you didn't look too deeply into the email dump. I don't know how that's not connected with Hillary? Were they trying to help Trump by undermining Bernie's campaign? I wasn't for Trump until this leak, I was undecided. They've tampered and undermined our civil liberties, and it's time for them to pay at the ballot box. Soryy, but I'm still not buying. You make a lot of inferences I just don't accept. I know journalists for more prestigious publications that Politico who will send pieces to the subject - depending on the nature of the piece - as part of getting the story right. Sendig it proves nothing. Show me the smoking gun where they prevented whole storied from being published. So DWS complained about how she was portrayed? Trump filed a malicious lawsuit against his former ghostwriter when the writer gave interviews about the experience to the press. How is that better? And sure, Clinton might be the beneficiary of her party's bias (an understandable one if they think Bernie is unelectable and absolutely paralel to the RNC attitude toward Trump), but being the beneficiary doesn't make you culpable. If this is the info that pushed you to Trump, you may have been undecided before, but it wasn't 50/50.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 13:53:37 GMT
Besides what I've mentioned, you ignored how they've interfered with the press. A staff writer from Politico used to send the DNC articles to edit before his own editor, Debbie Wasserman Schlutz called a big wig to complain about criticisms of her on MSNBC (Chuck Todd stepped in to help on that one) and they censured the word "rigged" when talking about the elections, and they've submitted questions to CNN and Meet the Press. What else? Joint fundraisers with the Washington Post, leaking damaging reports about Bernie to the WSJ...this is just what they talked email. There's much much more. Total tampering. www.dailywire.com/news/7777/5-emails-showing-dnc-was-coordinating-press-aaron-bandlerIf you didn't see where they tampered with the elections, you didn't look too deeply into the email dump. I don't know how that's not connected with Hillary? Were they trying to help Trump by undermining Bernie's campaign? I wasn't for Trump until this leak, I was undecided. They've tampered and undermined our civil liberties, and it's time for them to pay at the ballot box. Soryy, but I'm still not buying. You make a lot of inferences I just don't accept. I know journalists for more prestigious publications that Politico who will send pieces to the subject - depending on the nature of the piece - as part of getting the story right. Sendig it proves nothing. Show me the smoking gun where they prevented whole storied from being published. So DWS complained about how she was portrayed? Trump filed a malicious lawsuit against his former ghostwriter when the writer gave interviews about the experience to the press. How is that better? And sure, Clinton might be the beneficiary of her party's bias (an understandable one if they think Bernie is unelectable and absolutely paralel to the RNC attitude toward Trump), but being the beneficiary doesn't make you culpable. If this is the info that pushed you to Trump, you may have been undecided before, but it wasn't 50/50. I read that article from the ghostwriter in the New Yorker. The lawsuit stems from the writer making claims in that interview that violated his contract for the book. What a dumb move by the writer. Perhaps he'll be the honorary running mate of HRC along with Khizr Khan? About the fear in the post above, there's a difference between fears of terrorism and lawlessness vs the usual Dem divisive schtick of "GOP is racist/sexist/wants to starve children and old people."
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 8, 2016 15:33:39 GMT
Soryy, but I'm still not buying. You make a lot of inferences I just don't accept. I know journalists for more prestigious publications that Politico who will send pieces to the subject - depending on the nature of the piece - as part of getting the story right. Sendig it proves nothing. Show me the smoking gun where they prevented whole storied from being published. So DWS complained about how she was portrayed? Trump filed a malicious lawsuit against his former ghostwriter when the writer gave interviews about the experience to the press. How is that better? And sure, Clinton might be the beneficiary of her party's bias (an understandable one if they think Bernie is unelectable and absolutely paralel to the RNC attitude toward Trump), but being the beneficiary doesn't make you culpable. If this is the info that pushed you to Trump, you may have been undecided before, but it wasn't 50/50. I read that article from the ghostwriter in the New Yorker. The lawsuit stems from the writer making claims in that interview that violated his contract for the book. What a dumb move by the writer. Perhaps he'll be the honorary running mate of HRC along with Khizr Khan? About the fear in the post above, there's a difference between fears of terrorism and lawlessness vs the usual Dem divisive schtick of "GOP is racist/sexist/wants to starve children and old people." No there's not. Not when the plan is to capitalize on the fears of terrorism and lawlessness for divisive purposes. And it's hardly just that; it's precisely as divisive and partisan when the GOP says Dems want to take your hard earned money and give it to welfare queens, queers and illegals. And your guns. The best was the TV add with Chuck Norris in the previous election that said Obama was going to turn over control of the US Military to the UN. And Trump's lawsuit has no merit as contract violation. Zip. It's a bullying move to shut up someone speaking to the press. Again, I have no horse in this race, but I find it fascinating that the distance people will take inferences or characterize actions that are common to both sides as part of the system varies as widely as it does. Really, I think this is the nadir of negative campaigning. I see almost zero policy or even open ideological conversation out of this election. Sanders is about the only one who put policy and ideology on the table, and I think his success had more to do with that than anything else.
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Post by kelvana33 on Aug 8, 2016 15:54:21 GMT
The Dems are all about scaring people. It's fucking pathetic. I was watching Big Brother last night and a Clinton ad came on. It showed a couple of clips of Trump acting like a dope, a couple of sound bites from people worried about the nuke codes and ended with "Donald Trump Too Dangerous". Give me a friggin' break. Who says Clinton can handle that responsibility? And who ever thought it was the President alone? The SoD has to be involved as well. But really, Clinton is a woman. Women are erratic. Is she any more equipped mentally to handle nukes? And when did all of this nuke bullshit begin anyway? I don't recall "Don't elect Obama. Black people are violent. He can't have nukes." Obama only became fully black once he won. While he was running he was half white, half black.
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Post by kelvana33 on Aug 8, 2016 15:57:35 GMT
Hillary will win it, and when she does it's the final death blow to America. The people who run this country wont allow Trump to win, he scares them too much.
I then suspect you'll see a huge influx of Americans moving to Canada. It's sad, what was once a great country will become a melting pot of leaches and scumbags who will send it right to the shitter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 16:21:47 GMT
I read that article from the ghostwriter in the New Yorker. The lawsuit stems from the writer making claims in that interview that violated his contract for the book. What a dumb move by the writer. Perhaps he'll be the honorary running mate of HRC along with Khizr Khan? About the fear in the post above, there's a difference between fears of terrorism and lawlessness vs the usual Dem divisive schtick of "GOP is racist/sexist/wants to starve children and old people." No there's not. Not when the plan is to capitalize on the fears of terrorism and lawlessness for divisive purposes. And it's hardly just that; it's precisely as divisive and partisan when the GOP says Dems want to take your hard earned money and give it to welfare queens, queers and illegals. And your guns. The best was the TV add with Chuck Norris in the previous election that said Obama was going to turn over control of the US Military to the UN. And Trump's lawsuit has no merit as contract violation. Zip. It's a bullying move to shut up someone speaking to the press. Again, I have no horse in this race, but I find it fascinating that the distance people will take inferences or characterize actions that are common to both sides as part of the system varies as widely as it does. Really, I think this is the nadir of negative campaigning. I see almost zero policy or even open ideological conversation out of this election. Sanders is about the only one who put policy and ideology on the table, and I think his success had more to do with that than anything else. Yeah, it's a unique combination of a candidate who can't run on her record and a candidate without advanced knowledge on certain issues, and in any instance would be too busy responding to perceived slights to speak on them for more than a few soundbites.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 16:22:22 GMT
Hillary will win it, and when she does it's the final death blow to America. The people who run this country wont allow Trump to win, he scares them too much. I then suspect you'll see a huge influx of Americans moving to Canada. It's sad, what was once a great country will become a melting pot of leaches and scumbags who will send it right to the shitter. 3rd World Flophouse. They don't call Miami the City of the Future for nothing.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 8, 2016 16:25:01 GMT
Hillary will win it, and when she does it's the final death blow to America. The people who run this country wont allow Trump to win, he scares them too much. I then suspect you'll see a huge influx of Americans moving to Canada. It's sad, what was once a great country will become a melting pot of leaches and scumbags who will send it right to the shitter. Just one point. Do you personally know someone who is sponging off the government? I know someone on disability from the post office after being sexually harassed at the post office. She was at a desk at the end of a corridor, he took off his pants, put his hard on just behind her head and tapped her shoulder. Notice it was categorized as a "harassment" and not an assault. He turned himself in and confessed to it. The cops - you fucking geniuses - said it was a postal service issue since it happened on post office property. Her life sucks. This guy had a record of sexually "harassing" and actual sexual assaults at the post office. and what did the post office do? Assigned him with this woman ALONE in an office together. Statute of limitations on suing the post office for negligence (pretty obvious in this case I think) is very short. Another guy I know had a bad back - known issue when he took a job. His boss and several other people started giving him shit and calling him a pussy and kept daring him to pick up a 100 lb. bag. He gave in and did it and was carted away in an ambulance. At least he got some money because he sued. He lives in Troy NY - a fucking dump if there ever was one. Both of these people's lives suck. Totally suck. They can't get jobs because it will take them off disability. The guy with the bad back got addicted to the prescription pain killers at one point before he got off. You deal with shit bags who fuck up in addition to taking government money, but you don't see all the rest of the people who basically never leave their house and rot all day, their lives drifting passed as if they were in prison.
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Post by schlich on Aug 8, 2016 16:26:39 GMT
The Dems are all about scaring people. It's fucking pathetic. I was watching Big Brother last night and a Clinton ad came on. It showed a couple of clips of Trump acting like a dope, a couple of sound bites from people worried about the nuke codes and ended with "Donald Trump Too Dangerous". Give me a friggin' break. Who says Clinton can handle that responsibility? And who ever thought it was the President alone? The SoD has to be involved as well. But really, Clinton is a woman. Women are erratic. Is she any more equipped mentally to handle nukes? And when did all of this nuke bullshit begin anyway? I don't recall "Don't elect Obama. Black people are violent. He can't have nukes."We probably never heard it because it's a stereotype applied to an individual with no such history. And even most tea partiers are politically correct enough to know that that's probably not a statement the would want to defend.
And Donald has seemingly purposefully cultivated his reputation as a loose cannon. Were the clips of him being a dope doctored up? He's a dope. That scares me a lot more than someone's link to a stereotype.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 8, 2016 16:51:10 GMT
Admit it, PILF has a nice ring to it. If you're into the granny sort of thing.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 8, 2016 16:56:19 GMT
No there's not. Not when the plan is to capitalize on the fears of terrorism and lawlessness for divisive purposes. And it's hardly just that; it's precisely as divisive and partisan when the GOP says Dems want to take your hard earned money and give it to welfare queens, queers and illegals. And your guns. The best was the TV add with Chuck Norris in the previous election that said Obama was going to turn over control of the US Military to the UN. And Trump's lawsuit has no merit as contract violation. Zip. It's a bullying move to shut up someone speaking to the press. Again, I have no horse in this race, but I find it fascinating that the distance people will take inferences or characterize actions that are common to both sides as part of the system varies as widely as it does. Really, I think this is the nadir of negative campaigning. I see almost zero policy or even open ideological conversation out of this election. Sanders is about the only one who put policy and ideology on the table, and I think his success had more to do with that than anything else. Yeah, it's a unique combination of a candidate who can't run on her record and a candidate without advanced knowledge on certain issues, and in any instance would be too busy responding to perceived slights to speak on them for more than a few soundbites. It's sad. Some of the smartest, most insightful and most humane people I've know or had the pleasure to work with are Americans. Some were academics, some scientists, some dairy farmers, some in sales. Based on personal experience, America has thousands of better leaders than these two in terms of character, ethics and intelligence. But not experience. And not connections. Love your country, man, but hate your system.
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Post by kelvana33 on Aug 8, 2016 17:23:45 GMT
Hillary will win it, and when she does it's the final death blow to America. The people who run this country wont allow Trump to win, he scares them too much. I then suspect you'll see a huge influx of Americans moving to Canada. It's sad, what was once a great country will become a melting pot of leaches and scumbags who will send it right to the shitter. Just one point. Do you personally know someone who is sponging off the government? I know someone on disability from the post office after being sexually harassed at the post office. She was at a desk at the end of a corridor, he took off his pants, put his hard on just behind her head and tapped her shoulder. Notice it was categorized as a "harassment" and not an assault. He turned himself in and confessed to it. The cops - you fucking geniuses - said it was a postal service issue since it happened on post office property. Her life sucks. This guy had a record of sexually "harassing" and actual sexual assaults at the post office. and what did the post office do? Assigned him with this woman ALONE in an office together. Statute of limitations on suing the post office for negligence (pretty obvious in this case I think) is very short. Another guy I know had a bad back - known issue when he took a job. His boss and several other people started giving him shit and calling him a pussy and kept daring him to pick up a 100 lb. bag. He gave in and did it and was carted away in an ambulance. At least he got some money because he sued. He lives in Troy NY - a fucking dump if there ever was one. Both of these people's lives suck. Totally suck. They can't get jobs because it will take them off disability. The guy with the bad back got addicted to the prescription pain killers at one point before he got off. You deal with shit bags who fuck up in addition to taking government money, but you don't see all the rest of the people who basically never leave their house and rot all day, their lives drifting passed as if they were in prison. My first house several years back. Guy next door was on disability, total sponge. He was walking his dog down the street when the skies opened up. He ran up the street towards his house at such a pace Belichick would have liked to take a look at him. Can't work though. When I asked him what he did for a living, knowing he didn't work he said "I'm on disability, and I'm loving it"..
Responded to a call at an apartment complex a while back. Report of two black females arguing in the hallway. They were arguing over a check. I saw the check from the Federal Government and it was for over 2000.00. The argument was she had an agreement with her sister that when she moved here from Haiti, she would get some of that check until she was able to get her own check from the government. The TV in the apartment was bigger than any TV in my house and her 40 plus year old husband was in there playing video games and couldn't be bothered by the other two arguing. When I asked both woman what they did for a living both said they didn't have jobs. America the beautiful.
Girl working at Dunkin Donuts was telling me how the manager was trying to force her to work a double shift but she couldn't because if she went past 18 hours worked in a week it would effect her unemployment. She also told me that she was pregnant with her 3rd child, from a 3rd different guy, but it was good news because now she will get a voucher from the government for a bigger apartment and a bigger tax return. One can't help but be happy for her.
My buddy arrested a woman last week who switching prices on packages of meat. Manager said she's been doing this for quite some time and they have video of her doing it in the past that he burned on to a disc for us to see. She had 3 different EBT cards in her possession. None matched the name on her passport.
Was working the detail at Dave and Busters. Two black women were in there with 7 kids long before I got there according to the staff and were playing video games the whole time. Not sure if you've ever been there, but it isn't cheap.Three hours later they then got into line for the dining room to go eat when the oldest child came back from the host desk and informed one of the woman that Dave and Busters does not accept EBT. The womans response: "How do they expect us to eat then?"
I have plenty of more Badhab. I have no problem helping someone out when they're struggling. I do have a problem with people abusing the system though. It seems that issue is getting worse by the day.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 17:29:03 GMT
Yeah, it's a unique combination of a candidate who can't run on her record and a candidate without advanced knowledge on certain issues, and in any instance would be too busy responding to perceived slights to speak on them for more than a few soundbites. It's sad. Some of the smartest, most insightful and most humane people I've know or had the pleasure to work with are Americans. Some were academics, some scientists, some dairy farmers, some in sales. Based on personal experience, America has thousands of better leaders than these two in terms of character, ethics and intelligence. But not experience. And not connections. Love your country, man, but hate your system. Too many lawyers and CEOs. The political media is so sensationalized that normal people don't want to run and have their family dragged through the mud.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 8, 2016 17:56:08 GMT
Just one point. Do you personally know someone who is sponging off the government? I know someone on disability from the post office after being sexually harassed at the post office. She was at a desk at the end of a corridor, he took off his pants, put his hard on just behind her head and tapped her shoulder. Notice it was categorized as a "harassment" and not an assault. He turned himself in and confessed to it. The cops - you fucking geniuses - said it was a postal service issue since it happened on post office property. Her life sucks. This guy had a record of sexually "harassing" and actual sexual assaults at the post office. and what did the post office do? Assigned him with this woman ALONE in an office together. Statute of limitations on suing the post office for negligence (pretty obvious in this case I think) is very short. Another guy I know had a bad back - known issue when he took a job. His boss and several other people started giving him shit and calling him a pussy and kept daring him to pick up a 100 lb. bag. He gave in and did it and was carted away in an ambulance. At least he got some money because he sued. He lives in Troy NY - a fucking dump if there ever was one. Both of these people's lives suck. Totally suck. They can't get jobs because it will take them off disability. The guy with the bad back got addicted to the prescription pain killers at one point before he got off. You deal with shit bags who fuck up in addition to taking government money, but you don't see all the rest of the people who basically never leave their house and rot all day, their lives drifting passed as if they were in prison. My first house several years back. Guy next door was on disability, total sponge. He was walking his dog down the street when the skies opened up. He ran up the street towards his house at such a pace Belichick would have liked to take a look at him. Can't work though. When I asked him what he did for a living, knowing he didn't work he said "I'm on disability, and I'm loving it"..
Responded to a call at an apartment complex a while back. Report of two black females arguing in the hallway. They were arguing over a check. I saw the check from the Federal Government and it was for over 2000.00. The argument was she had an agreement with her sister that when she moved here from Haiti, she would get some of that check until she was able to get her own check from the government. The TV in the apartment was bigger than any TV in my house and her 40 plus year old husband was in there playing video games and couldn't be bothered by the other two arguing. When I asked both woman what they did for a living both said they didn't have jobs. America the beautiful.
Girl working at Dunkin Donuts was telling me how the manager was trying to force her to work a double shift but she couldn't because if she went past 18 hours worked in a week it would effect her unemployment. She also told me that she was pregnant with her 3rd child, from a 3rd different guy, but it was good news because now she will get a voucher from the government for a bigger apartment and a bigger tax return. One can't help but be happy for her.
My buddy arrested a woman last week who switching prices on packages of meat. Manager said she's been doing this for quite some time and they have video of her doing it in the past that he burned on to a disc for us to see. She had 3 different EBT cards in her possession. None matched the name on her passport.
Was working the detail at Dave and Busters. Two black women were in there with 7 kids long before I got there according to the staff and were playing video games the whole time. Not sure if you've ever been there, but it isn't cheap.Three hours later they then got into line for the dining room to go eat when the oldest child came back from the host desk and informed one of the woman that Dave and Busters does not accept EBT. The womans response: "How do they expect us to eat then?"
I have plenty of more Badhab. I have no problem helping someone out when they're struggling. I do have a problem with people abusing the system though. It seems that issue is getting worse by the day.
I would expect you would get to see the worst of it in your job. And for every one of those there is a white collar one taking thousands more defrauding the government.
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Post by 50belowzero on Aug 8, 2016 20:46:42 GMT
Too many lawyers and CEOs. The political media is so sensationalized that normal people don't want to run and have their family dragged through the mud.Normal, qualified people would have to be nuts to get into politics. Whats the upside? There isn't any upside. The whole "i got into politics to make a difference" is a sham, it never works because if you don't toe the party line, you're out on your ass. Thats why you end up with criminals, blowhards, egomaniac's, liars, corrupt businessman, racists, evangelical shysters & control freaks as your main political candidate . They can take the heat because they don't give a shit.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 8, 2016 21:17:02 GMT
True but he's got to jump all over it and not get bogged down in any petty crap that is of no benefit to him. He enjoys these exchanges. I think he's sold on winning a grudge match style election. Here's a feud he got into some years back with Rosie O'Donnell. m.youtube.com/watch?v=3NXEaF-w2MY"Rosie O'Donnell has given many women second chances - only women." I remember their back and forth. I think Howard Stern also locked horns with her several yeas ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 21:46:43 GMT
He enjoys these exchanges. I think he's sold on winning a grudge match style election. Here's a feud he got into some years back with Rosie O'Donnell. m.youtube.com/watch?v=3NXEaF-w2MY "Rosie O'Donnell has given many women second chances - only women." I remember their back and forth. I think Howard Stern also locked horns with her several yeas ago. She's been a high profile anti-gun nut and feminist for a lot of years. He went too far there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 21:47:53 GMT
Too many lawyers and CEOs. The political media is so sensationalized that normal people don't want to run and have their family dragged through the mud.Normal, qualified people would have to be nuts to get into politics. Whats the upside? There isn't any upside. The whole "i got into politics to make a difference" is a sham, it never works because if you don't toe the party line, you're out on your ass. Thats why you end up with ***criminals, blowhards, egomaniac's, liars, corrupt businessman, racists, evangelical shysters & control freaks*** as your main political candidate . They can take the heat because they don't give a shit. So when is the campaign???
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 8, 2016 22:23:26 GMT
Just one point. Do you personally know someone who is sponging off the government? I know someone on disability from the post office after being sexually harassed at the post office. She was at a desk at the end of a corridor, he took off his pants, put his hard on just behind her head and tapped her shoulder. Notice it was categorized as a "harassment" and not an assault. He turned himself in and confessed to it. The cops - you fucking geniuses - said it was a postal service issue since it happened on post office property. Her life sucks. This guy had a record of sexually "harassing" and actual sexual assaults at the post office. and what did the post office do? Assigned him with this woman ALONE in an office together. Statute of limitations on suing the post office for negligence (pretty obvious in this case I think) is very short. Another guy I know had a bad back - known issue when he took a job. His boss and several other people started giving him shit and calling him a pussy and kept daring him to pick up a 100 lb. bag. He gave in and did it and was carted away in an ambulance. At least he got some money because he sued. He lives in Troy NY - a fucking dump if there ever was one. Both of these people's lives suck. Totally suck. They can't get jobs because it will take them off disability. The guy with the bad back got addicted to the prescription pain killers at one point before he got off. You deal with shit bags who fuck up in addition to taking government money, but you don't see all the rest of the people who basically never leave their house and rot all day, their lives drifting passed as if they were in prison. My first house several years back. Guy next door was on disability, total sponge. He was walking his dog down the street when the skies opened up. He ran up the street towards his house at such a pace Belichick would have liked to take a look at him. Can't work though. When I asked him what he did for a living, knowing he didn't work he said "I'm on disability, and I'm loving it"..
Responded to a call at an apartment complex a while back. Report of two black females arguing in the hallway. They were arguing over a check. I saw the check from the Federal Government and it was for over 2000.00. The argument was she had an agreement with her sister that when she moved here from Haiti, she would get some of that check until she was able to get her own check from the government. The TV in the apartment was bigger than any TV in my house and her 40 plus year old husband was in there playing video games and couldn't be bothered by the other two arguing. When I asked both woman what they did for a living both said they didn't have jobs. America the beautiful.
Girl working at Dunkin Donuts was telling me how the manager was trying to force her to work a double shift but she couldn't because if she went past 18 hours worked in a week it would effect her unemployment. She also told me that she was pregnant with her 3rd child, from a 3rd different guy, but it was good news because now she will get a voucher from the government for a bigger apartment and a bigger tax return. One can't help but be happy for her.
My buddy arrested a woman last week who switching prices on packages of meat. Manager said she's been doing this for quite some time and they have video of her doing it in the past that he burned on to a disc for us to see. She had 3 different EBT cards in her possession. None matched the name on her passport.
Was working the detail at Dave and Busters. Two black women were in there with 7 kids long before I got there according to the staff and were playing video games the whole time. Not sure if you've ever been there, but it isn't cheap.Three hours later they then got into line for the dining room to go eat when the oldest child came back from the host desk and informed one of the woman that Dave and Busters does not accept EBT. The womans response: "How do they expect us to eat then?"
I have plenty of more Badhab. I have no problem helping someone out when they're struggling. I do have a problem with people abusing the system though. It seems that issue is getting worse by the day.
So, here's where I get pissed off more than anything else. And it's not you, kel; it's generic, pervasive, Canada and the US, and it just pisses me off. I have no trouble helping someone when they're struggling, unless someone else is abusing the system, and then fuck that legitimately struggling guy. That's what a lot of what I read and see and hear comes down to when it comes to social safety net stuff. There are some who say life doesn't give you trophies for participation; you get what you earn and you earn what you deserve. Nevermind inheritances and other "starting capital" considerations - that's just society as team sport and your team is your family and maybe your community and what they give you and not the next dick-wagging dipshit down the street. I don't mind this much because there are a lot fewer of these guys, and for the most part, they seem consistent - though I knew a lot of them who were in oil who were all to quick to get into government subsidized re-training when the price of oil dropped 70%. What I dislike is the "yeah, there should be a safety net but only if no one is allowed to abuse it" segment of the population...which is vast. The question I always have is how much fraud is acceptable? You'll never get to zero fraud. You live with retail prices that reflect shoplifting and other losses like fraud - you pay them every day. But you live with it. You live with paying so that some other asshole can keep an amount equivalent to the extra money you or I pay. No one seems to say we should boycott all retailers who factor in losses. Same with insurance. Half the service providers you see have to pay insurance. Except...they don't. They treat that as a business expense, and either write it off or pass it on to you as the customer. Most people figure this is just how pricing works. So there must be some bar or threshold where you're willing to say yeah, I support having a social safety net even if XX% of the people who benefit from it are crooked. Once you figure out that percentage, do what the retailers do and figure out how much you'll have to pay to make sure you can hold the line at that level of fraud. Do the cost-benefit. 99.9% of the time, people object to being played so badly that they'll make an emotional decision about this and say damn the cost, we can't let these dirtbags get away with it! You see it all the time in voting patterns - take money from the social safety net and put it into policing the social safety net...but 2x, 5x, 20x more so that we really stick it to those assholes! So now you've taken money from both the good folks who are genuinely struggling AND from the assholes, and paid way more out of your pocket. You have to pay something to hold the line...but there's a mythical ideal mark where what you pay and what you lose adds up to the smallest achievable percentage of your overall nut, and that should be the goal. And if you get anywhere close, you should sleep well and hate the player not the game.
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Post by Fletcher on Aug 8, 2016 23:34:34 GMT
I really do hate both the parties, and more specifically the primary system that allows the craziest 20% of either party to inadvertently choose the two nominees, which the rest of the country will be stuck with at election time. This is exactly how Howard Dean almost became the Democratic candidate a few elections back, while being a total nutjob.
The Kennedy-era Democrat has been lost for sure, but I do think the Republicans are in even worse shape. It is almost unfathomable that after 8-years of Obama reign, combined with an incredibly flawed and unpopular candidate in Hillary Clinton, the Republicans have settled on a candidate that seems even more incapable of appealing to voters.
Trump has risen to the top by being bombastic and courting the rebellion voter -- the voter that feels he's been ripped off by educated "suits" his whole life and wants someone similarly angry and unrefined at this point. The Republicans used to be the intellectual party, who stuck to certain high-minded governmental principles, instead of the emotional 'save-the-world' leanings of liberals.
More recently though, the party has been taken over by the populist appeal of Fox, Sarah Palins, Donald Trumps, and almost anyone who wants to crow about guns, gays, God, and abortion in the primaries. That's why the party is losing George Will types. They are sacrificing the high-minded ideals of traditional conservatism for the loudest, angriest candidate who'll tell them they are living as 'victims' in America and need to fight back.
Trump is as shitty a conservative as he is a liberal. He has no public office experience whatsoever, and leans the wrong way on key constitutional issues from civil liberties, to eminent domain, to libel, to executive orders, to freedom of the press. We can only guess at foreign policy knowledge and skills, but judging from his petty, reactionary personal battles with anyone who insults him, he seems unlikely to outmaneuver anyone in a chess match. If you really care about immigration reform, or Supreme Court judges, or civil liberties, or hawkish foreign policy with terrorism (some of the traditional conservative hallmarks) you would have been much better off with Bush, or Cruz, or Rubio, or Kasich.
Eight years ago, I heard a whole lot from the Right about adequate experience in office, foreign policy experience, being a 'common man', and family values, as being critical elements for a Presidential candidate. Today, the same people seem to favor a billionaire with no experience at all, on his 3rd marriage, who insults disabled people, women, and minorities. I will never understand the appeal.
But again, I'm not opposed to Trump because he's so offensive (on some level, I like the straight-forwardness). I just think he's a shitty candidate. I don't think he's the guy to fix any of the gripes listed above, by kelvana or bowers, or whoever. I think that when you're angry, you make bad decisions, and I think the Right half of the country is angry right now.
I think Clinton, as much as I dislike her and am depressed at my choice, is less likely to make the big fumble, and piss away a few of the remaining things that really make American government special and different than most other countries. I blame the Trump people and the primaries for forcing me in that direction, where I'll probably just choose the lesser liability in November.
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