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Post by walktheline on Aug 18, 2016 16:46:31 GMT
Unfortunately bhab, America has a car culture. Our lifestyles, our roads, our urban and suburban planning along with ,multiple other factors have all conspired to making bicycles both a nuisance to drivers and a hazard to bicyclists. It's very different in Europe and many other countries but that's because things evolved differently there. There's some progress here to make bicyclists safer and there certainly seems to be more of them in Boston than there used to be. I think it's going to take some time before it's anything even close to Italy. Maybe decades. And why would we want that? There's nothing worse than trying to drive down A1-A in Delray Beach on a Sunday when these snotnosed cycle pricks are riding four abreast at fifteen miles per hour. Some of them are aggressive. Hmmm, I'm not sure lol. Especially considering one of them decided I wasn't respecting cyclist enough, slammed his fists on my car, and took a swing at me. Was that you bhab???
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:17:31 GMT
And why would we want that? There's nothing worse than trying to drive down A1-A in Delray Beach on a Sunday when these snotnosed cycle pricks are riding four abreast at fifteen miles per hour. Some of them are aggressive. Hmmm, I'm not sure lol. Especially considering one of them decided I wasn't respecting cyclist enough, slammed his fists on my car, and took a swing at me. Was that you bhab??? That's happened to me. I beeped at a cyclist who veered out of his lane (he was probably dreaming of a double vegan kale smoothie at Whole Foods) and he slammed his fist on the top of my car a half mile ahead when I was at a red light. Cyclists are people you can really hate.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 17:19:43 GMT
And why would we want that? There's nothing worse than trying to drive down A1-A in Delray Beach on a Sunday when these snotnosed cycle pricks are riding four abreast at fifteen miles per hour. Some of them are aggressive. Hmmm, I'm not sure lol. Especially considering one of them decided I wasn't respecting cyclist enough, slammed his fists on my car, and took a swing at me. Was that you bhab??? Nope, not me. But I can tell you that I was run off the road by a Boston Globe truck on route 117 I think it was in Stow MA, it was about 8 a.m. Sunday morning with barely another vehicle on the road on a perfectly clear straight away. On Totten Pond Road in Waltham a woman abruptly cut me off, along with a couple of guys from the Canadian Olympic team taking us all down. I had a concussion (I was out about half a minute), 7 stitches in the back of my head. She got out of her car, said 'Oh my God, what have I done?', got back into her car and took off.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 17:22:37 GMT
Hmmm, I'm not sure lol. Especially considering one of them decided I wasn't respecting cyclist enough, slammed his fists on my car, and took a swing at me. Was that you bhab??? That's happened to me. I beeped at a cyclist who veered out of his lane (he was probably dreaming of a double vegan kale smoothie at Whole Foods) and he slammed his fist on the top of my car a half mile ahead when I was at a red light. Cyclists are people you can really hate. Again, no shortage of stupidity no matter what the issue. The Cyclist was probably one of those Trumpeter people. And no, not all cyclists are liberals. Staunch Republicans also. While racing in Washington DC met a few Marines on training rides.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 17:27:52 GMT
What can you say, besides the DNC brought this kind of scrutiny on themselves? It's not Trump's fault they screwed over their own voters. So, in this scenario, the DNC dropped the soap in the shower, so whatever happens after that is blameless? Still don't see any evidence of rigging, and don't buy that it wouldn't be a bigger story if they had any. They don't have anything that goes beyond what I would assume is business as usual for both committees.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:34:22 GMT
What can you say, besides the DNC brought this kind of scrutiny on themselves? It's not Trump's fault they screwed over their own voters. So, in this scenario, the DNC dropped the soap in the shower, so whatever happens after that is blameless? Still don't see any evidence of rigging, and don't buy that it wouldn't be a bigger story if they had any. They don't have anything that goes beyond what I would assume is business as usual for both committees. There's only so much that can be gleaned from emails.
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Post by walktheline on Aug 18, 2016 17:35:49 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike.
BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Edit: Hell, I don't even wear earphones anymore when I run. I swear people look at their phones more than the road ahead and there are few sidewalks where I run. No music and my head is on a swivel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:40:30 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike. BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Terrible drivers. The drivers here are so bad (and so many are here illegally without any insurance) that we're a no fault state.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 17:56:08 GMT
Hmmm, I'm not sure lol. Especially considering one of them decided I wasn't respecting cyclist enough, slammed his fists on my car, and took a swing at me. Was that you bhab??? That's happened to me. I beeped at a cyclist who veered out of his lane (he was probably dreaming of a double vegan kale smoothie at Whole Foods) and he slammed his fist on the top of my car a half mile ahead when I was at a red light. Cyclists are people you can really hate. You hate whoever is the other in this situation. I despise cyclists who are so stupid as not to take their safety in their own hands. Too many of them are rules and rights nuts until they want to zip in and out of tight spaces to get through traffic or run a stop sign at at T intersection where there's not through traffic going their direction. I hate nothing more than cyclists who ride on the sidewalk because they put pedestrians at almost as great a risk as cars do. I ride and I drive, and I hate drivers who are too stupid to accommodate bikes and cyclists who go out of their way to inconvenience drivers. If you're a driver who is going slowly and holding up traffic, you are supposed to pull over and let others pass. Same for a cyclist. You're not supposed to assert your right to the road and damn anyone else. However, having been hit four or five times and only surviving with minor injuries from each because I saw the car about to cut me off, turn left into me, drift into the curb, etc., I hate drivers who aren't respectful of cyclists even more.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 17:56:44 GMT
So, in this scenario, the DNC dropped the soap in the shower, so whatever happens after that is blameless? Still don't see any evidence of rigging, and don't buy that it wouldn't be a bigger story if they had any. They don't have anything that goes beyond what I would assume is business as usual for both committees. There's only so much that can be gleaned from emails. Exactly. Everything else is assumption and wanting it to be true. Just like that worst of the anti-Trump stuff.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 18:01:05 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike.
BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Edit: Hell, I don't even wear earphones anymore when I run. I swear people look at their phones more than the road ahead and there are few sidewalks where I run. No music and my head is on a swivel. Note those incidents where I had my encounters were outside the city with little traffic, you're not safe anywhere. Really competitive cyclists do little else but ride, eat and sleep. Up before the crack of dawn for training ride, ride to work, ride home, maybe training ride after work depending on the training schedule. They are pumped full of testosterone natural and in some cases otherwise, full of adrenaline and aggressive - which can explain a lot of bad road behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:02:19 GMT
That's happened to me. I beeped at a cyclist who veered out of his lane (he was probably dreaming of a double vegan kale smoothie at Whole Foods) and he slammed his fist on the top of my car a half mile ahead when I was at a red light. Cyclists are people you can really hate. You hate whoever is the other in this situation. I despise cyclists who are so stupid as not to take their safety in their own hands. Too many of them are rules and rights nuts until they want to zip in and out of tight spaces to get through traffic or run a stop sign at at T intersection where there's not through traffic going their direction. I hate nothing more than cyclists who ride on the sidewalk because they put pedestrians at almost as great a risk as cars do. I ride and I drive, and I hate drivers who are too stupid to accommodate bikes and cyclists who go out of their way to inconvenience drivers. If you're a driver who is going slowly and holding up traffic, you are supposed to pull over and let others pass. Same for a cyclist. You're not supposed to assert your right to the road and damn anyone else. However, having been hit four or five times and only surviving with minor injuries from each because I saw the car about to cut me off, turn left into me, drift into the curb, etc., I hate drivers who aren't respectful of cyclists even more. I just don't believe they belong on the main roads. But yes, there have been a few cyclists along the way that have yelled at me or given me the finger (mostly in places like Vermont, or Portland, Maine) that I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 19:13:34 GMT
You hate whoever is the other in this situation. I despise cyclists who are so stupid as not to take their safety in their own hands. Too many of them are rules and rights nuts until they want to zip in and out of tight spaces to get through traffic or run a stop sign at at T intersection where there's not through traffic going their direction. I hate nothing more than cyclists who ride on the sidewalk because they put pedestrians at almost as great a risk as cars do. I ride and I drive, and I hate drivers who are too stupid to accommodate bikes and cyclists who go out of their way to inconvenience drivers. If you're a driver who is going slowly and holding up traffic, you are supposed to pull over and let others pass. Same for a cyclist. You're not supposed to assert your right to the road and damn anyone else. However, having been hit four or five times and only surviving with minor injuries from each because I saw the car about to cut me off, turn left into me, drift into the curb, etc., I hate drivers who aren't respectful of cyclists even more. I just don't believe they belong on the main roads. But yes, there have been a few cyclists along the way that have yelled at me or given me the finger (mostly in places like Vermont, or Portland, Maine) that I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best. How are they a hindrance? If you think about this, it doesn't matter if you have to slow to pass a cyclist because if you are in a big hurry more than likely you are going to run into traffic further up the road - unless of course they block you enough to allow additional cars to get in front of you. And speaking of that, aren't LESS cars on the road a better thing? Because isn't traffic the real thing that is blocking you from arriving at the polling station multiple times, or buying your Uzi and Rosary beads?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:22:21 GMT
I just don't believe they belong on the main roads. But yes, there have been a few cyclists along the way that have yelled at me or given me the finger (mostly in places like Vermont, or Portland, Maine) that I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best. How are they a hindrance? If you think about this, it doesn't matter if you have to slow to pass a cyclist because if you are in a big hurry more than likely you are going to run into traffic further up the road - unless of course they block you enough to allow additional cars to get in front of you. And speaking of that, aren't LESS cars on the road a better thing? Because isn't traffic the real thing that is blocking you from arriving at the polling station multiple times, or buying your Uzi and Rosary beads? I don't like having the feeling that my two choices are to sideswipe a car or maim somebody for life. Some of these "cycles" are more expensive than used cars. There's no reason they have to be on the main roads at all. Establish a traffic threshold and let the bans fly.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 19:33:01 GMT
How are they a hindrance? If you think about this, it doesn't matter if you have to slow to pass a cyclist because if you are in a big hurry more than likely you are going to run into traffic further up the road - unless of course they block you enough to allow additional cars to get in front of you. And speaking of that, aren't LESS cars on the road a better thing? Because isn't traffic the real thing that is blocking you from arriving at the polling station multiple times, or buying your Uzi and Rosary beads? I don't like having the feeling that my two choices are to sideswipe a car or maim somebody for life. Some of these "cycles" are more expensive than used cars. There's no reason they have to be on the main roads at all. Establish a traffic threshold and let the bans fly. Those aren't your only 2 choices. In Europe cars buzzed just past my left elbow all the time. No problem. I kept a straight line at the far right of the road and they kept their line. People knew how to drive. Again, those aren't your only 2 choices. You can choose to feel differently, you don't have to drive in the left lane to pass, just give a reasonable amount of room. Cyclists pay taxes just like you might and therefore have the right to use them.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 18, 2016 19:39:41 GMT
How are they a hindrance? If you think about this, it doesn't matter if you have to slow to pass a cyclist because if you are in a big hurry more than likely you are going to run into traffic further up the road - unless of course they block you enough to allow additional cars to get in front of you. And speaking of that, aren't LESS cars on the road a better thing? Because isn't traffic the real thing that is blocking you from arriving at the polling station multiple times, or buying your Uzi and Rosary beads? I don't like having the feeling that my two choices are to sideswipe a car or maim somebody for life. Some of these "cycles" are more expensive than used cars. There's no reason they have to be on the main roads at all. Establish a traffic threshold and let the bans fly. What do you consider a "main" road. Bicycles are banned from highways at least here in MA. My training rides used to be 100 to 150 miles, do you really think it fair to limit people to riding around their blocks for hours on end. There are a million things in the world you can get yourself worked up about, MUCH more often it's other idiot drivers rather than cyclists that bother me. Like the people driving 10 mph at least under the speed limit leading the parade down the road. Or a trend around me where people are killing each other with kindness, I was stopped at a red light and the person with the green light came to a stop and waved me on. Or those idiots in the left lane on the mass pike. Or those idiots who don't know what "yield" means as they blindly pull onto route 2. Or those idiots that blow red lights.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:57:41 GMT
I don't like having the feeling that my two choices are to sideswipe a car or maim somebody for life. Some of these "cycles" are more expensive than used cars. There's no reason they have to be on the main roads at all. Establish a traffic threshold and let the bans fly. Those aren't your only 2 choices. In Europe cars buzzed just past my left elbow all the time. No problem. I kept a straight line at the far right of the road and they kept their line. People knew how to drive. Again, those aren't your only 2 choices. You can choose to feel differently, you don't have to drive in the left lane to pass, just give a reasonable amount of room. Cyclists pay taxes just like you might and therefore have the right to use them. I'm not the only person who has this complaint. Like I said, the only people who sympathize with the plight of cyclists are cyclists.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 20:59:37 GMT
Those aren't your only 2 choices. In Europe cars buzzed just past my left elbow all the time. No problem. I kept a straight line at the far right of the road and they kept their line. People knew how to drive. Again, those aren't your only 2 choices. You can choose to feel differently, you don't have to drive in the left lane to pass, just give a reasonable amount of room. Cyclists pay taxes just like you might and therefore have the right to use them. I'm not the only person who has this complaint. Like I said, the only people who sympathize with the plight of cyclists are cyclists. Because they've experienced it from the other side. That's just obvious, isn't it? There's no dilemma for you if you're not a cyclist and a motorist because it's an unmitigated benefit for you to have roads free of bikes. But you're not entitled to a road free of bikes any more than people are entitled to neighbourhoods free of dogs. One reason cyclists get pissed off at motorists is that motorists assume the roads are theirs and cyclists should be grateful to have a foot by the curb. Half the incidents I see involving angry cyclists, the motorist is surprised and thinks the cyclist is insane because they are completely oblivious to the dick move they made minutes before. And yes, the other half are dick cyclists. The rules where I live have always been simple, and you're expected to know them to get a driver's licence. The simplest rule is that all paved pathways have a speed limit that determines what kind of traffic can traverse it. You don't want some guy biking down the sidewalk or mixed use path at 30m/h beside moms with strollers and seniors with shitzus. You don't want even Lance Armstrong on a 60m/h freeway. In between - roads. Roads are generally built to be wide enough for vehicles, including buses, to leave room for cyclists and not endanger other drivers. The worst is people who drive inches from the curb leaving 8' of space between their door and the left lane. Idiots. If you can't control your vehicle to a variance of about a foot at any given time, you shouldn't be driving.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 21:03:13 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike.
BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Edit: Hell, I don't even wear earphones anymore when I run. I swear people look at their phones more than the road ahead and there are few sidewalks where I run. No music and my head is on a swivel. It's an amazing and stupid world. People will, with absolutely no sense of irony or contradiction, say that people should just avoid them when they're walking and looking at their phones (they say it's Pokemon, but we know it's porn), and that if cyclist is on the road and gets hit, that's their fault.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 21:18:54 GMT
I'm not the only person who has this complaint. Like I said, the only people who sympathize with the plight of cyclists are cyclists. Because they've experienced it from the other side. That's just obvious, isn't it? There's no dilemma for you if you're not a cyclist and a motorist because it's an unmitigated benefit for you to have roads free of bikes. But you're not entitled to a road free of bikes any more than people are entitled to neighbourhoods free of dogs. One reason cyclists get pissed off at motorists is that motorists assume the roads are theirs and cyclists should be grateful to have a foot by the curb. Half the incidents I see involving angry cyclists, the motorist is surprised and thinks the cyclist is insane because they are completely oblivious to the dick move they made minutes before. And yes, the other half are dick cyclists. The rules where I live have always been simple, and you're expected to know them to get a driver's licence. The simplest rule is that all paved pathways have a speed limit that determines what kind of traffic can traverse it. You don't want some guy biking down the sidewalk or mixed use path at 30m/h beside moms with strollers and seniors with shitzus. You don't want even Lance Armstrong on a 60m/h freeway. In between - roads. Roads are generally built to be wide enough for vehicles, including buses, to leave room for cyclists and not endanger other drivers. The worst is people who drive inches from the curb leaving 8' of space between their door and the left lane. Idiots. If you can't control your vehicle to a variance of about a foot at any given time, you shouldn't be driving. They should be grateful. They've whinged and wheedled their way into this small space where they don't belong like the Palestinians into Israel and they wear these skin tight pants that wiggle their dicks at everybody. On the count of weenie waving alone they need to get off the road.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 21:23:46 GMT
Because they've experienced it from the other side. That's just obvious, isn't it? There's no dilemma for you if you're not a cyclist and a motorist because it's an unmitigated benefit for you to have roads free of bikes. But you're not entitled to a road free of bikes any more than people are entitled to neighbourhoods free of dogs. One reason cyclists get pissed off at motorists is that motorists assume the roads are theirs and cyclists should be grateful to have a foot by the curb. Half the incidents I see involving angry cyclists, the motorist is surprised and thinks the cyclist is insane because they are completely oblivious to the dick move they made minutes before. And yes, the other half are dick cyclists. The rules where I live have always been simple, and you're expected to know them to get a driver's licence. The simplest rule is that all paved pathways have a speed limit that determines what kind of traffic can traverse it. You don't want some guy biking down the sidewalk or mixed use path at 30m/h beside moms with strollers and seniors with shitzus. You don't want even Lance Armstrong on a 60m/h freeway. In between - roads. Roads are generally built to be wide enough for vehicles, including buses, to leave room for cyclists and not endanger other drivers. The worst is people who drive inches from the curb leaving 8' of space between their door and the left lane. Idiots. If you can't control your vehicle to a variance of about a foot at any given time, you shouldn't be driving. They should be grateful. They've whinged and wheedled their way into this small space where they don't belong like the Palestinians into Israel and they wear these skin tight pants that wiggle their dicks at everybody. On the count of weenie waving alone they need to get off the road. It's funny. The first part of that sounds like a stereotype of what the world calls "an American attitude." Or, and here's the irony, they sometimes shorten it to "weenie waving".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 21:45:25 GMT
I'm not the only person who has this complaint. Like I said, the only people who sympathize with the plight of cyclists are cyclists. Because they've experienced it from the other side. That's just obvious, isn't it? There's no dilemma for you if you're not a cyclist and a motorist because it's an unmitigated benefit for you to have roads free of bikes. But you're not entitled to a road free of bikes any more than people are entitled to neighbourhoods free of dogs. One reason cyclists get pissed off at motorists is that motorists assume the roads are theirs and cyclists should be grateful to have a foot by the curb. Half the incidents I see involving angry cyclists, the motorist is surprised and thinks the cyclist is insane because they are completely oblivious to the dick move they made minutes before. And yes, the other half are dick cyclists. The rules where I live have always been simple, and you're expected to know them to get a driver's licence. The simplest rule is that all paved pathways have a speed limit that determines what kind of traffic can traverse it. You don't want some guy biking down the sidewalk or mixed use path at 30m/h beside moms with strollers and seniors with shitzus. You don't want even Lance Armstrong on a 60m/h freeway. In between - roads. Roads are generally built to be wide enough for vehicles, including buses, to leave room for cyclists and not endanger other drivers. The worst is people who drive inches from the curb leaving 8' of space between their door and the left lane. Idiots. If you can't control your vehicle to a variance of about a foot at any given time, you shouldn't be driving. Do cyclists have even a shred of self-awareness? Every driver has to slow down and alter their course for them...they see more middle fingers than the Chamber of Commerce at the DNC convention...Jesus doesn't get as many honks...and to top it off they need to show every person in a twenty foot radius the size and shape of their package. Are they supposed to be an ironic joke like the people that wear bear suits in Las Vegas?
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 18, 2016 21:54:26 GMT
Because they've experienced it from the other side. That's just obvious, isn't it? There's no dilemma for you if you're not a cyclist and a motorist because it's an unmitigated benefit for you to have roads free of bikes. But you're not entitled to a road free of bikes any more than people are entitled to neighbourhoods free of dogs. One reason cyclists get pissed off at motorists is that motorists assume the roads are theirs and cyclists should be grateful to have a foot by the curb. Half the incidents I see involving angry cyclists, the motorist is surprised and thinks the cyclist is insane because they are completely oblivious to the dick move they made minutes before. And yes, the other half are dick cyclists. The rules where I live have always been simple, and you're expected to know them to get a driver's licence. The simplest rule is that all paved pathways have a speed limit that determines what kind of traffic can traverse it. You don't want some guy biking down the sidewalk or mixed use path at 30m/h beside moms with strollers and seniors with shitzus. You don't want even Lance Armstrong on a 60m/h freeway. In between - roads. Roads are generally built to be wide enough for vehicles, including buses, to leave room for cyclists and not endanger other drivers. The worst is people who drive inches from the curb leaving 8' of space between their door and the left lane. Idiots. If you can't control your vehicle to a variance of about a foot at any given time, you shouldn't be driving. Do cyclists have even a shred of self-awareness? Every driver has to slow down and alter their course for them...they see more middle fingers than the Chamber of Commerce at the DNC convention...Jesus doesn't get as many honks...and to top it off they need to show every person in a twenty foot radius the size and shape of their package. Are they supposed to be an ironic joke like the people that wear bear suits in Las Vegas? If you don't stare at a guy's crotch, you won't collect such accurate package data. It's not hard (that's what she said...). Some cyclists are assholes. It's not close to the majority.
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Post by walktheline on Aug 18, 2016 22:14:14 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike.
BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Edit: Hell, I don't even wear earphones anymore when I run. I swear people look at their phones more than the road ahead and there are few sidewalks where I run. No music and my head is on a swivel. It's an amazing and stupid world. People will, with absolutely no sense of irony or contradiction, say that people should just avoid them when they're walking and looking at their phones (they say it's Pokemon, but we know it's porn), and that if cyclist is on the road and gets hit, that's their fault. Well, Squirtle sound like something from porn, anyway.
Plenty of irresponsible behavior to go around when it comes to the drivers and bicyclists. Regardless of fault the bicyclists lose that confrontation every time, though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 22:34:22 GMT
Do cyclists have even a shred of self-awareness? Every driver has to slow down and alter their course for them...they see more middle fingers than the Chamber of Commerce at the DNC convention...Jesus doesn't get as many honks...and to top it off they need to show every person in a twenty foot radius the size and shape of their package. Are they supposed to be an ironic joke like the people that wear bear suits in Las Vegas? If you don't stare at a guy's crotch, you won't collect such accurate package data. It's not hard (that's what she said...). Some cyclists are assholes. It's not close to the majority. Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires."
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