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Post by badhabitude on Aug 19, 2016 1:35:47 GMT
If you don't stare at a guy's crotch, you won't collect such accurate package data. It's not hard (that's what she said...). Some cyclists are assholes. It's not close to the majority. Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires." And you've also said you don't want to maim anyone. Yet you laughed with Ford about his remarks about cyclists, granted not the death part. And you said "...I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best." So you are perfectly OK with menacing someone with a 2 ton piece of steel, but you don't actually want to hurt them? Have I got that right? And what if whatever you do to happily scare the shit out of them causes them to crash, is that OK? I think if I never were a competitive cyclist I would still have respect for people attempting to do something athletic. Around where I live now there are people who jog in the street, yet we have sidewalks. I don't understand why they do that, but whatever. I don't scare the shit out of them or honk at them or whatever, I respect that they are trying to take care of themselves. It's more that probably about 2/3 of this country who are couch potatoes. Do you have a problem with joggers as well? Because they take up the same amount of road as cyclists do, a properly fitted road bike's handlebars is the same width as your shoulders. Sounds to me like you've got a chip on your shoulder about something that is probably beyond people riding bicycles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 1:52:27 GMT
Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires." And you've also said you don't want to maim anyone. Yet you laughed with Ford about his remarks about cyclists, granted not the death part. And you said "...I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best." So you are perfectly OK with menacing someone with a 2 ton piece of steel, but you don't actually want to hurt them? Have I got that right? And what if whatever you do to happily scare the shit out of them causes them to crash, is that OK? I think if I never were a competitive cyclist I would still have respect for people attempting to do something athletic. Around where I live now there are people who jog in the street, yet we have sidewalks. I don't understand why they do that, but whatever. I don't scare the shit out of them or honk at them or whatever, I respect that they are trying to take care of themselves. It's more that probably about 2/3 of this country who are couch potatoes. Do you have a problem with joggers as well? Because they take up the same amount of road as cyclists do, a properly fitted road bike's handlebars is the same width as your shoulders. Sounds to me like you've got a chip on your shoulder about something that is probably beyond people riding bicycles. Well, let's see if I can clarify. I'll ignore the sanctimony. 1. I was laughing at Ford swearing and being reprimanded in Parliament. 2. Some cycle douche in NH spit on my car at an intersection. I was turning right and he ran a red light. We both hit the brakes and one person was following the traffic codes and another was wearing spray on booty shorts. I'm not ashamed that I pulled beside him for fifteen seconds revving the car in neutral yelling "am I going to do it" over and over. That guy was an asshole, and hopefully he learned something. 3. Joggers that aren't on the sidewalk don't belong in the road either.
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Post by neelycam on Aug 19, 2016 3:08:45 GMT
Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires." And you've also said you don't want to maim anyone. Yet you laughed with Ford about his remarks about cyclists, granted not the death part. And you said "...I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best." So you are perfectly OK with menacing someone with a 2 ton piece of steel, but you don't actually want to hurt them? Have I got that right? And what if whatever you do to happily scare the shit out of them causes them to crash, is that OK? I think if I never were a competitive cyclist I would still have respect for people attempting to do something athletic. Around where I live now there are people who jog in the street, yet we have sidewalks. I don't understand why they do that, but whatever. I don't scare the shit out of them or honk at them or whatever, I respect that they are trying to take care of themselves. It's more that probably about 2/3 of this country who are couch potatoes. Do you have a problem with joggers as well? Because they take up the same amount of road as cyclists do, a properly fitted road bike's handlebars is the same width as your shoulders. Sounds to me like you've got a chip on your shoulder about something that is probably beyond people riding bicycles. has a problem with anyone who disagrees with him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 3:23:25 GMT
And you've also said you don't want to maim anyone. Yet you laughed with Ford about his remarks about cyclists, granted not the death part. And you said "...I've been happy to scare the living shit out of. They need to learn their place on the roads and that they're a hindrance at best." So you are perfectly OK with menacing someone with a 2 ton piece of steel, but you don't actually want to hurt them? Have I got that right? And what if whatever you do to happily scare the shit out of them causes them to crash, is that OK? I think if I never were a competitive cyclist I would still have respect for people attempting to do something athletic. Around where I live now there are people who jog in the street, yet we have sidewalks. I don't understand why they do that, but whatever. I don't scare the shit out of them or honk at them or whatever, I respect that they are trying to take care of themselves. It's more that probably about 2/3 of this country who are couch potatoes. Do you have a problem with joggers as well? Because they take up the same amount of road as cyclists do, a properly fitted road bike's handlebars is the same width as your shoulders. Sounds to me like you've got a chip on your shoulder about something that is probably beyond people riding bicycles. has a problem with anyone who disagrees with him Yeah, this started when I was diagnosed with a blood clot issue. Did you know the same thing happened to Barry PeTerson?
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 19, 2016 3:55:47 GMT
If you don't stare at a guy's crotch, you won't collect such accurate package data. It's not hard (that's what she said...). Some cyclists are assholes. It's not close to the majority. Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires." Listen, bad cyclists would be at the top of my list of idiots if it wasn't their own lives they risked by being incompetent. They provoke the hatred; they create the impatience with cyclists, and they're the ones who create the fear of some jackass popping into your tires. I assume if I run one of them over, it's Darwinian. But I know a lot of serious cyclists who are awesome road managers and do a fantastic job of removing any inconvenience for competent drivers - they do their training rides in low volume times of day; they ride non-commuter routes; they never ride "peleton" style unless they're on a closed road, and they choose routes with wide paved shoulders. It's not hard. This shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by neelycam on Aug 19, 2016 6:13:09 GMT
has a problem with anyone who disagrees with him Yeah, this started when I was diagnosed with a blood clot issue. Did you know the same thing happened to Barry PeTerson? But we should feel sorry cause he and sheriff Joe and David Duke are so upset with Trumps numbers in the polls they had to have a circle jerk
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 11:06:37 GMT
Yeah, this started when I was diagnosed with a blood clot issue. Did you know the same thing happened to Barry PeTerson? But we should feel sorry cause he and sheriff Joe and David Duke are so upset with Trumps numbers in the polls they had to have a circle jerk I thought they were upset about the Tyler trade? I think every body in law enforcement should be fired for letting Seguin go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 11:12:38 GMT
Yeah, I agree with that, I just wish more cyclists would realize my thought passing them is "I hope this guy doesn't hit a divot in the road and end up under my tires." Listen, bad cyclists would be at the top of my list of idiots if it wasn't their ***own lives they risked by being incompetent*** They provoke the hatred; they create theimpatience with cyclists, and they're the ones who create the fear of some jackass popping into your tires. I assume if I run one of them over, it's Darwinian. But I know a lot of serious cyclists who are awesome road managers and do a fantastic job of removing any inconvenience for competent drivers - they do their training rides in low volume times of day; they ride non-commuter routes; they never ride "peleton" style unless they're on a closed road, and they choose routes with wide paved shoulders. It's not hard. This shouldn't be an issue. Yeah, that's the mitigating factor I thought of when I thought more "critically" about the cycles menace. I was caught off guard by Bhab's vicious and elitist attack about the Rob Ford comment.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 19, 2016 12:09:14 GMT
Listen, bad cyclists would be at the top of my list of idiots if it wasn't their ***own lives they risked by being incompetent*** They provoke the hatred; they create theimpatience with cyclists, and they're the ones who create the fear of some jackass popping into your tires. I assume if I run one of them over, it's Darwinian. But I know a lot of serious cyclists who are awesome road managers and do a fantastic job of removing any inconvenience for competent drivers - they do their training rides in low volume times of day; they ride non-commuter routes; they never ride "peleton" style unless they're on a closed road, and they choose routes with wide paved shoulders. It's not hard. This shouldn't be an issue. Yeah, that's the mitigating factor I thought of when I thought more "critically" about the cycles menace. I was caught off guard by Bhab's vicious and elitist attack about the Rob Ford comment. Totally untrue. Be fruitful and multiply with thy self.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 16:34:21 GMT
Election comes 100+ days early. No voting restrictions here, no proof of citizenship to vote. Voting closes on 7/29 at 12. a.m. Where's the "the world is in trouble with either" category?
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Post by NAS on Aug 19, 2016 21:33:04 GMT
HB - You may know this and why, but FLA is by far the state with the most cyclist fatalities. I knew an old guy in his 70's who just died down there in March while riding his bike. Not really a friend of mine, but I knew him through my work. There were no charges brought against the driver so I assume it was just an unfortunate accident, possibly brought on by the guy on the bike. BHab, I have a bike but don't ride much these days and when I do I stick to rural roads and ride when there is little traffic anyway. Too many close calls for me and I know plenty of people who have been injured or worse (as noted above). Terrible drivers. The drivers here are so bad (and so many are here illegally without any insurance) that we're a no fault state. Yes, the drivers are miserable here. It's why I haven't bought a motorcycle in Florida. Just too scary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 21:51:24 GMT
Speaking of the world being in trouble, Debbie Disgraced Schultz is up 33 points on Tim Canova.
Let's clear up a few facts:
-This is a primary, so people are voting for two candidates in the same party that likely share their political views. -Tim Canova has raised as much, if not more money that DWS. The issue isn't a bad campaign or funding. -DWS has missed more votes than the average, meaning she's not really doing much for the state of Florida. -Canova is a Constitutional Law Professor like Obama and Elizabeth Warren, so to a card carrying Lib, he isn't unqualified for office.
Broward County Dimocrats (yes, in this scenario they earned that sobriquet) essentially have two choices: a con, and not a con. They're picking the con two to one.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 19, 2016 22:44:01 GMT
Terrible drivers. The drivers here are so bad (and so many are here illegally without any insurance) that we're a no fault state. Yes, the drivers are miserable here. It's why I haven't bought a motorcycle in Florida. Just too scary. Brutal here in Toronto also. Using your turn indicator has become an option instead of a rule of the road.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 20, 2016 3:27:17 GMT
Terrible drivers. The drivers here are so bad (and so many are here illegally without any insurance) that we're a no fault state. Yes, the drivers are miserable here. It's why I haven't bought a motorcycle in Florida. Just too scary. Yes, that Henry Bowers guy for example
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Aug 23, 2016 22:07:00 GMT
Speaking of the world being in trouble, Debbie Disgraced Schultz is up 33 points on Tim Canova. Let's clear up a few facts: -This is a primary, so people are voting for two candidates in the same party that likely share their political views. -Tim Canova has raised as much, if not more money that DWS. The issue isn't a bad campaign or funding. -DWS has missed more votes than the average, meaning she's not really doing much for the state of Florida. -Canova is a Constitutional Law Professor like Obama and Elizabeth Warren, so to a card carrying Lib, he isn't unqualified for office. Broward County Dimocrats (yes, in this scenario they earned that sobriquet) essentially have two choices: a con, and not a con. They're picking the con two to one. Honestly, I don't think Schultz really had any effect on the primary, but if she did, I wouldn't really care. If I was high up in the DNC I would have said from day one we need to make sure Bernie isn't our candidate, that's the best way to lose the election. There's actually a lot of democrats that I think are kinda slimy, but are really good elected officials. I think Hilary will be added to that list. I think she's an abrasive bitch, and I wouldn't want to have a beer with her, but I think she'll do a really good job as president for one term. I'd want to have a beer with her husband but I'm worried a drink might kill him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 22:27:21 GMT
Speaking of the world being in trouble, Debbie Disgraced Schultz is up 33 points on Tim Canova. Let's clear up a few facts: -This is a primary, so people are voting for two candidates in the same party that likely share their political views. -Tim Canova has raised as much, if not more money that DWS. The issue isn't a bad campaign or funding. -DWS has missed more votes than the average, meaning she's not really doing much for the state of Florida. -Canova is a Constitutional Law Professor like Obama and Elizabeth Warren, so to a card carrying Lib, he isn't unqualified for office. Broward County Dimocrats (yes, in this scenario they earned that sobriquet) essentially have two choices: a con, and not a con. They're picking the con two to one. Honestly, I don't think Schultz really had any effect on the primary, but if she did, I wouldn't really care. If I was high up in the DNC I would have said from day one we need to make sure Bernie isn't our candidate, that's the best way to lose the election. There's actually a lot of democrats that I think are kinda slimy, but are really good elected officials. I think Hilary will be added to that list. I think she's an abrasive bitch, and I wouldn't want to have a beer with her, but I think she'll do a really good job as president for one term. I'd want to have a beer with her husband but I'm worried a drink might kill him It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved.
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Aug 23, 2016 23:17:56 GMT
Honestly, I don't think Schultz really had any effect on the primary, but if she did, I wouldn't really care. If I was high up in the DNC I would have said from day one we need to make sure Bernie isn't our candidate, that's the best way to lose the election. There's actually a lot of democrats that I think are kinda slimy, but are really good elected officials. I think Hilary will be added to that list. I think she's an abrasive bitch, and I wouldn't want to have a beer with her, but I think she'll do a really good job as president for one term. I'd want to have a beer with her husband but I'm worried a drink might kill him It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. I certainly feel that way for the most part. If a candidate is the best for the job, I really don't give a shit about the scandals. I didn't care about slick Willie getting a blow job, but I did care about him lying under oath. I don't particularly care about W sort of going AWOL when he was younger, but I do care about lying about the WMDs. I don't care about trumps tax returns, I care about his policies.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 23, 2016 23:43:44 GMT
Honestly, I don't think Schultz really had any effect on the primary, but if she did, I wouldn't really care. If I was high up in the DNC I would have said from day one we need to make sure Bernie isn't our candidate, that's the best way to lose the election. There's actually a lot of democrats that I think are kinda slimy, but are really good elected officials. I think Hilary will be added to that list. I think she's an abrasive bitch, and I wouldn't want to have a beer with her, but I think she'll do a really good job as president for one term. I'd want to have a beer with her husband but I'm worried a drink might kill him It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. Dems don't care about made up ones that come with witch hunts. Dems just think Repub scandals are worse or bigger and vice versa.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 0:12:34 GMT
It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. Dems don't care about made up ones that come with witch hunts. Dems just think Repub scandals are worse or bigger and vice versa. That's right. It's either "old news" or "a vast, right wing conspiracy." Shouldn't you be rogering The Energizer, Bill?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 0:15:20 GMT
It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. I certainly feel that way for the most part. If a candidate is the best for the job, I really don't give a shit about the scandals. I didn't care about slick Willie getting a blow job, but I did care about him lying under oath. I don't particularly care about W sort of going AWOL when he was younger, but I do care about lying about the WMDs. I don't care about trumps tax returns, I care about his policies. The tax return arguments are stupid. I think they should have to release them to the FBI after the election to monitor them for fraud, but the particulars are nobody's business. RE: Trickle down in the other thread. It worked once when the tax rates were sky high, but nothing trickles down if there's no growth. It's application today when there's a recession is stupid and can't work.
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Aug 24, 2016 1:50:05 GMT
I certainly feel that way for the most part. If a candidate is the best for the job, I really don't give a shit about the scandals. I didn't care about slick Willie getting a blow job, but I did care about him lying under oath. I don't particularly care about W sort of going AWOL when he was younger, but I do care about lying about the WMDs. I don't care about trumps tax returns, I care about his policies. The tax return arguments are stupid. I think they should have to release them to the FBI after the election to monitor them for fraud, but the particulars are nobody's business. RE: Trickle down in the other thread. It worked once when the tax rates were sky high, but nothing trickles down if there's no growth. It's application today when there's a recession is stupid and can't work. I think it worked when we were a manufacturing country, now I just don't see the point
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 24, 2016 2:30:29 GMT
Honestly, I don't think Schultz really had any effect on the primary, but if she did, I wouldn't really care. If I was high up in the DNC I would have said from day one we need to make sure Bernie isn't our candidate, that's the best way to lose the election. There's actually a lot of democrats that I think are kinda slimy, but are really good elected officials. I think Hilary will be added to that list. I think she's an abrasive bitch, and I wouldn't want to have a beer with her, but I think she'll do a really good job as president for one term. I'd want to have a beer with her husband but I'm worried a drink might kill him It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. Your post made me think of Gary Hart and John Edwards.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 24, 2016 4:20:59 GMT
Dems don't care about made up ones that come with witch hunts. Dems just think Repub scandals are worse or bigger and vice versa. Shouldn't you be rogering The Energizer, Bill? Stuck in committee it puts to many people to work. Meanwhile those 29 job bills tax cuts *cough*, that the House passed, the ones that the CBO said wouldn't create one job, should be moving right along now. Just as soon as Mitch McConnell gets back in October after he's done impersonating a Turkey.
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Post by NAS on Aug 24, 2016 11:55:30 GMT
It's always been my opinion that Democrats don't care about scandals if there's a big name involved. I certainly feel that way for the most part. If a candidate is the best for the job, I really don't give a shit about the scandals. I didn't care about slick Willie getting a blow job, but I did care about him lying under oath. I don't particularly care about W sort of going AWOL when he was younger, but I do care about lying about the WMDs. I don't care about trumps tax returns, I care about his policies. Whoa. Step back. There is nothing that points to W lying about WMD's. Sure, they didn't find them, but it's possible that the trucks leaving Iraq had them. It's also possible that W was lied to and spoke with plausible deniability.
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Post by walktheline on Aug 24, 2016 13:18:06 GMT
I certainly feel that way for the most part. If a candidate is the best for the job, I really don't give a shit about the scandals. I didn't care about slick Willie getting a blow job, but I did care about him lying under oath. I don't particularly care about W sort of going AWOL when he was younger, but I do care about lying about the WMDs. I don't care about trumps tax returns, I care about his policies. Whoa. Step back. There is nothing that points to W lying about WMD's. Sure, they didn't find them, but it's possible that the trucks leaving Iraq had them. It's also possible that W was lied to and spoke with plausible deniability. That's exactly what happened. Also WMD's were found and this didn't come to public light until 10-12 years after the war started. The media has, as you would expect, buried this inconvenient fact or spun it as "no new WMD's were found". The intelligence community knew they existed but weren't able to produce the hard evidence at the time they pushed for the invasion so they acted as if they had the proof. W was not our best or brightest president but he was one of our most honest ones.
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