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Post by walktheline on Nov 4, 2016 19:37:38 GMT
Not trying to takes sides on this one but non-active FBI agents talk to there active buddies. They always know what's going on back in the clubhouse. It's likely that Rudy's ex-FBI buds know stuff and passed it on. It's also likely that Rudy is overstating his level of knowledge to look more important and relevant that he actually is. Sure, that could be one scenario - but it doesn't excuse the active agents from wrong doing. They aren't supposed to be talking about active cases PARTICULARLY when it would influence an election. Rudy overstating? You want to look at his quote again? "Darn right I knew about it" Plus look at what he said 2 days before Comey's letter came out. I really don't think it could be any more obvious unless Rudy were to read Comey's letter out loud 2 days before hand. Calm your tits. Yeah, some FBI agents probably yakked. No, of course they shouldn't have but it doesn't mean they did it as part of a network of Trump operatives to help steal the election from saint Hillary. "Darn right I knew about it" is Rudy trying to make us all understand just how important and connected he is.
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 19:40:02 GMT
Yep they will nuke the fillibuster as they should...and as the Repubs would if they were in the same situation. Dems will control the Senate by a 52-48 margin Repubs will retain the House but will lose 20ish seats. Only to have the Senate majority yanked back in 2018 by the RepubliKLANs. Very likely. But if the Dems can juice that number up to 53 on tuesday they have a chance to keep the senate in 2018. They are going big on establishing a huge GOTV effort for mid-term elections. We shall see By the way, early vote has Clinton with the margins she needs in the battleground states. By Nov 8 more than half the electorate will have already voted. The election will likely be called by 8pm eastern on tuesday.
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 19:41:06 GMT
I will save this post for Wednesday morning. Should be funny. Then when I'm right you can actually acknowledge it, versus everything you've said in the past about Carey Price. Deal!!!
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 19:46:24 GMT
Sure, that could be one scenario - but it doesn't excuse the active agents from wrong doing. They aren't supposed to be talking about active cases PARTICULARLY when it would influence an election. Rudy overstating? You want to look at his quote again? "Darn right I knew about it" Plus look at what he said 2 days before Comey's letter came out. I really don't think it could be any more obvious unless Rudy were to read Comey's letter out loud 2 days before hand. Calm your tits. Yeah, some FBI agents probably yakked. No, of course they shouldn't have but it doesn't mean they did it as part of a network of Trump operatives to help steal the election from saint Hillary. "Darn right I knew about it" is Rudy trying to make us all understand just how important and connected he is. Whatever the motive, there is going to be a massive house cleaning over at the FBI on Nov 9 and beyond. They would have been wise to not try to play a role in the elections in hindsight. The Hatch Act is going to get a workover me thinks.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 19:48:46 GMT
Don't deny that Rudy didn't know, he knew and here is his quote “I had no role in it,” he said defiantly, “You’re darn right I heard about it.” You're confusing someone hearing rumors with someone making decisions or representing a camp that has a say in the investigation. The case has been reopeed because they've found previously undiscovered (and obstructed by Hillary or her crime family) emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They've also said that the Clinton Foundation is under investigation, which was not previously known before this week. You seem to be forgetting that Comey didn't recommend Hillary be indicted in July. This is just political fanboy interent nonsense. I also think it's extremely lame for you and others to try to label my views as being from Breitbart or other sources with negative connotations. I don't think I've ever shared anything here from a site other than CNN, WaPo, or the New York Times or another major newspaper. I also subscribe to the New Yorker which has promulgated a liberal point of view from time to time. I'm comfortable with the mental friction associated with hearing opposing viewpoints, compared to your insults and mining for the most biased and lame liberal media outlets to try to find anything that substantiates your stupidity. Sources that make Bill O'Reilly look like Walter Cronkite. Rumors? Rudy had knowledge, he admitted it. WSJ and NYT broke the story. Insults? Please, you're not short of those either my friend. Even tho you just mentioned "your stupidity', but I'm sure you meant it in the nicest way possible. And you've accused me of worse than Breitbart by suggesting I'm entirely ignorant many a time. Daily Kos significantly less credible than Bill O'Reilly? Oh please. I've watched Bill O'Reilly a handful of times. Maybe it was just chance, but I saw the exact same formula play out in each instance. Bill took a statement and acknowledged it to be speculation or inuendo and stated that several times, then he gradually morphed that into a statement "we know is true." As far as left wing media goes, does mother jones or daily kos go as far as breitbart does? If you are in the least bit fair minded you can't possibly say yes to that.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 19:50:20 GMT
Sure, that could be one scenario - but it doesn't excuse the active agents from wrong doing. They aren't supposed to be talking about active cases PARTICULARLY when it would influence an election. Rudy overstating? You want to look at his quote again? "Darn right I knew about it" Plus look at what he said 2 days before Comey's letter came out. I really don't think it could be any more obvious unless Rudy were to read Comey's letter out loud 2 days before hand. You're just a partisan grasping for straws. And you are in complete denial.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 20:00:24 GMT
Sure, that could be one scenario - but it doesn't excuse the active agents from wrong doing. They aren't supposed to be talking about active cases PARTICULARLY when it would influence an election. Rudy overstating? You want to look at his quote again? "Darn right I knew about it" Plus look at what he said 2 days before Comey's letter came out. I really don't think it could be any more obvious unless Rudy were to read Comey's letter out loud 2 days before hand. Calm your tits. Yeah, some FBI agents probably yakked. No, of course they shouldn't have but it doesn't mean they did it as part of a network of Trump operatives to help steal the election from saint Hillary. "Darn right I knew about it" is Rudy trying to make us all understand just how important and connected he is. There is nothing to be calm about. This is the United States, not some fucked up country like East Germany where you used the STASI to take your political opponent out behind the barn and blow them away. OK, yes, that was an extreme example, but this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, our elections have to be an example to the rest of the world as elections with as close to zero impropriety as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 20:01:48 GMT
Only to have the Senate majority yanked back in 2018 by the RepubliKLANs. Very likely. But if the Dems can juice that number up to 53 on tuesday they have a chance to keep the senate in 2018. They are going big on establishing a huge GOTV effort for mid-term elections. We shall see By the way, early vote has Clinton with the margins she needs in the battleground states. By Nov 8 more than half the electorate will have already voted. The election will likely be called by 8pm eastern on tuesday. No ballots have been counted yet.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 20:07:01 GMT
Calm your tits. Yeah, some FBI agents probably yakked. No, of course they shouldn't have but it doesn't mean they did it as part of a network of Trump operatives to help steal the election from saint Hillary. "Darn right I knew about it" is Rudy trying to make us all understand just how important and connected he is. Whatever the motive, there is going to be a massive house cleaning over at the FBI on Nov 9 and beyond. They would have been wise to not try to play a role in the elections in hindsight. The Hatch Act is going to get a workover me thinks. Amen to that. Hopefully Henry Bowers will excuse the extreme left wing link of the HuPo, but here is Rudy's video clip. Rudy is so full of shit its incredible. Agents were furiouos that they couldn't subpoena Hillary's medical records. That is complete and utter bullshit. Just even watch "The FBI Files" - edutainment about actual FBI cases. Judges deny subpoenas all the time, all the fucking time. Good law enforcement does there homework and digs out more evidence - the RIGHT way, the legal way. Check out REAL cases where someone gets wrongfully imprisoned - its almost always because they insist on keeping bullshit evidence instead of doing the work. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6b
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 20:13:47 GMT
Whatever the motive, there is going to be a massive house cleaning over at the FBI on Nov 9 and beyond. They would have been wise to not try to play a role in the elections in hindsight. The Hatch Act is going to get a workover me thinks. Amen to that. Hopefully Henry Bowers will excuse the extreme left wing link of the HuPo, but here is Rudy's video clip. Rudy is so full of shit its incredible. Agents were furiouos that they couldn't subpoena Hillary's medical records. That is complete and utter bullshit. Just even watch "The FBI Files" - edutainment about actual FBI cases. Judges deny subpoenas all the time, all the fucking time. Good law enforcement does there homework and digs out more evidence - the RIGHT way, the legal way. Check out REAL cases where someone gets wrongfully imprisoned - its almost always because they insist on keeping bullshit evidence instead of doing the work. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6bI am sure that liberal site doctored it lol Now if it were from wikileaks it would be totally credible
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 20:23:17 GMT
Very likely. But if the Dems can juice that number up to 53 on tuesday they have a chance to keep the senate in 2018. They are going big on establishing a huge GOTV effort for mid-term elections. We shall see By the way, early vote has Clinton with the margins she needs in the battleground states. By Nov 8 more than half the electorate will have already voted. The election will likely be called by 8pm eastern on tuesday. No ballots have been counted yet. Henry, Henry, Henry.....is this your first election or something? Surely you are familiar with analytics, no? I hope you are preparing yourself for the first female President. History in the making.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 20:30:29 GMT
No ballots have been counted yet. Henry, Henry, Henry.....is this your first election or something? Surely you are familiar with analytics, no? I hope you are preparing yourself for the first female President. History in the making. Tuff to be president when she is in jail don't you think.?Well unless her Obama Pardons her or Maybee she can pardon herself.You have to watch something other than CNN.
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Post by walktheline on Nov 4, 2016 20:31:30 GMT
Calm your tits. Yeah, some FBI agents probably yakked. No, of course they shouldn't have but it doesn't mean they did it as part of a network of Trump operatives to help steal the election from saint Hillary. "Darn right I knew about it" is Rudy trying to make us all understand just how important and connected he is. There is nothing to be calm about. This is the United States, not some fucked up country like East Germany where you used the STASI to take your political opponent out behind the barn and blow them away. OK, yes, that was an extreme example, but this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, our elections have to be an example to the rest of the world as elections with as close to zero impropriety as possible. As ugly as this election has been, it will not be rigged. The optics aren't good, though and that's where the real problem is. The lack of civility is what bothers me the most.
Look, this country isn't perfect and not everything stays on an even keel. Things improve and things degrade. We survived a civil war, world wars, race wars, and some pretty poor presidencies in the past. Neither of these douchebags are going to ruin the country. There are way too many checks and balances built in to this version of democracy. We'll be fine. I promise.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 20:38:40 GMT
There is nothing to be calm about. This is the United States, not some fucked up country like East Germany where you used the STASI to take your political opponent out behind the barn and blow them away. OK, yes, that was an extreme example, but this is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, our elections have to be an example to the rest of the world as elections with as close to zero impropriety as possible. As ugly as this election has been, it will not be rigged. The optics aren't good, though and that's where the real problem is. The lack of civility is what bothers me the most.
Look, this country isn't perfect and not everything stays on an even keel. Things improve and things degrade. We survived a civil war, world wars, race wars, and some pretty poor presidencies in the past. Neither of these douchebags are going to ruin the country. There are way too many checks and balances built in to this version of democracy. We'll be fine. I promise.
Oh if only you could keep your promise. I know its not rigged. I hope that Trump admits that in his concession speech. Because for all the world he sure sounds like he's going to make sure that Hillary doesn't get the office even if elected.
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 20:42:19 GMT
Henry, Henry, Henry.....is this your first election or something? Surely you are familiar with analytics, no? I hope you are preparing yourself for the first female President. History in the making. Tuff to be president when she is in jail don't you think.?Well unless her Obama Pardons her or Maybee she can pardon herself.You have to watch something other than CNN. Only one presidential candidate is going to court for various charges (TrumpU fraud, Rape) in the near future and it ain't the one you are thinking of. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 20:53:36 GMT
Amen to that. Hopefully Henry Bowers will excuse the extreme left wing link of the HuPo, but here is Rudy's video clip. Rudy is so full of shit its incredible. Agents were furiouos that they couldn't subpoena Hillary's medical records. That is complete and utter bullshit. Just even watch "The FBI Files" - edutainment about actual FBI cases. Judges deny subpoenas all the time, all the fucking time. Good law enforcement does there homework and digs out more evidence - the RIGHT way, the legal way. Check out REAL cases where someone gets wrongfully imprisoned - its almost always because they insist on keeping bullshit evidence instead of doing the work. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-fbi-clinton-emails_us_581c9e3fe4b0e80b02c93d6bI am sure that liberal site doctored it lol Now if it were from wikileaks it would be totally credible Wikileaks has never published a fake document...and no votes are counted until November 8th. Analytics God Nate Silver was wrong about 8 Republican primaries in a row, was wrong about the Democrats race in Michigan, and gave Trump a 5% chance of winning the nomination. The polls are less accurate with Trump becuase of the "shy Tory effect." He's in a margin of error tie with the Hag and more polls reflecting the FBI news are set to drop.
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 21:08:35 GMT
I am sure that liberal site doctored it lol Now if it were from wikileaks it would be totally credible Wikileaks has never published a fake document...and no votes are counted until November 8th. Analytics God Nate Silver was wrong about 8 Republican primaries in a row, was wrong about the Democrats race in Michigan, and gave Trump a 5% chance of winning the nomination. The polls are less accurate with Trump becuase of the "shy Tory effect." He's in a margin of error tie with the Hag and more polls reflecting the FBI news are set to drop. Oh Henry.....using Silver is cute. You do know he is not the only game in town, right? I will let you in on a little secret....campaign internal polls are the most accurate. Why you ask? They use such things as voter profiles, targeted demographics from unaffiliated voters, self-identified voters, etc....and can accurately deduce outcomes based on early voting. For example, Clark County in NV has more voters than the rest of the state combined. So far, using analytics of the early vote the Clinton campaign has banked enough votes that it is nearly impossible for Trump to catch up on tuesday. NV is over, Clinton has it...and clinched it on the same day a shitty pollster gave Trump a 6 point lead. This analysis can be done in all other states with early voting. CO, VA, NC and FL are the same as well. OH is still up in the air but Clinton doesnt need OH, Trump does. GA AZ, and TX are too close to call at the moment...and again, Clinton doesnt need them Trump does. This is how it works, my friend.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 21:23:54 GMT
Not that vast. NY FBI office. And we will see. The truth of this will come out. Pull your head out of your ass and watch real news instead of that propaganda shit. Yep, I find it very disturbing how some will still vote for a guy who: 1. is a sexual predator 2. will soon be on trial for raping a 13 year old 3. will soon be on trial for fraud (TrumpU) 4. is being leaked info by a hostile foreign power 5. is being propped up by rogue groups within the government 6. Is endorsed and helped by internal fascist and racist elements But, you know.....EMAILZ!!!!! I didn't know anything about the rape of the 13 year old. It's pretty sketchy stuff. There are a lot of connections to stuff that Trump has said previously, altho that could all be put together by someone who researched Trump heavily enough. There is one smoking gun, the friendship with Epstein. You have to wonder about that, he admits that he knew Epstein was having sex with "women on the younger side."
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 21:32:06 GMT
Yep, I find it very disturbing how some will still vote for a guy who: 1. is a sexual predator 2. will soon be on trial for raping a 13 year old 3. will soon be on trial for fraud (TrumpU) 4. is being leaked info by a hostile foreign power 5. is being propped up by rogue groups within the government 6. Is endorsed and helped by internal fascist and racist elements But, you know.....EMAILZ!!!!! I didn't know anything about the rape of the 13 year old. It's pretty sketchy stuff. There are a lot of connections to stuff that Trump has said previously, altho that could all be put together by someone who researched Trump heavily enough. There is one smoking gun, the friendship with Epstein. You have to wonder about that, he admits that he knew Epstein was having sex with "women on the younger side." Yep, and unlike the emailz smoke and mirrors, it is real and there is a court date. Media is completely letting this one slide. If it were happening in the reverse it would have been wall to wall coverage for months and calls to pull out of the race would have been legion.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 22:20:31 GMT
Wikileaks has never published a fake document...and no votes are counted until November 8th. Analytics God Nate Silver was wrong about 8 Republican primaries in a row, was wrong about the Democrats race in Michigan, and gave Trump a 5% chance of winning the nomination. The polls are less accurate with Trump becuase of the "shy Tory effect." He's in a margin of error tie with the Hag and more polls reflecting the FBI news are set to drop. Oh Henry.....using Silver is cute. You do know he is not the only game in town, right? I will let you in on a little secret....campaign internal polls are the most accurate. Why you ask? They use such things as voter profiles, targeted demographics from unaffiliated voters, self-identified voters, etc....and can accurately deduce outcomes based on early voting. For example, Clark County in NV has more voters than the rest of the state combined. So far, using analytics of the early vote the Clinton campaign has banked enough votes that it is nearly impossible for Trump to catch up on tuesday. NV is over, Clinton has it...and clinched it on the same day a shitty pollster gave Trump a 6 point lead. This analysis can be done in all other states with early voting. CO, VA, NC and FL are the same as well. OH is still up in the air but Clinton doesnt need OH, Trump does. GA AZ, and TX are too close to call at the moment...and again, Clinton doesnt need them Trump does. This is how it works, my friend. What the heck are you talking about? Trump is ahead in early voting in FL, if you believe in that sort of thing. I don't. OH is a done deal for Trump-they're way above the level they were in early/AI/N8SLVR/fake votes in 2012 and he's polled very well for months. The Senate seat up for grabs is 10 points ahead in polling for the Republican The polls is Nevada are almost always wrong. You and the DNC talking points you regurgitate might say a level of innacuarcy is "baked in." For a supposed political scientist or scientism-ist, you seem to be confusing early voting speculation, polls, and actual ballots. Ballots counted on November 8th, only.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 22:26:34 GMT
I didn't know anything about the rape of the 13 year old. It's pretty sketchy stuff. There are a lot of connections to stuff that Trump has said previously, altho that could all be put together by someone who researched Trump heavily enough. There is one smoking gun, the friendship with Epstein. You have to wonder about that, he admits that he knew Epstein was having sex with "women on the younger side." Yep, and unlike the emailz smoke and mirrors, it is real and there is a court date. Media is completely letting this one slide. If it were happening in the reverse it would have been wall to wall coverage for months and calls to pull out of the race would have been legion..... You mean a civil case that's already been dropped once? Do you know Bill Clinton flew on the same guy's plane to the tropics for years? LOL! www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/“Johnson” had previously filed forms asking to be let off the hook for the costs of the lawsuit, claiming she had only $300 to her name ... such an allowance — known as in forma paupers — is only given in civil rights cases in California, and the judge ruled that she “failed to state a claim for relief” on a civil rights basis, even though she “utilized the form provided by the Central District of California for civil actions.” “Even construing the ... pleading liberally, Plaintiff has not alleged any race-based or class-based animus against her, and consequently, her ... allegations fail to state a claim upon which relief may be granted,” the judge wrote ... the address listed on the paperwork leads to an abandoned property, and the phone number goes straight to voicemail." Dictionary definition of a frivolous lawsuit. What coverage should there be? I can just see the article in the next issue of The Baked In Times for the Baked: "The TRUMP Lawsuit THEY Don't Want You to Know about!"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 23:41:24 GMT
Tuff to be president when she is in jail don't you think.?Well unless her Obama Pardons her or Maybee she can pardon herself.You have to watch something other than CNN. Only one presidential candidate is going to court for various charges (TrumpU fraud, Rape) in the near future and it ain't the one you are thinking of. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. According to who Gloria Allred please,man even CNN isn't talking about this because it's bull shit.Didnt Allred just pay the EX Apprentice woman to accuse Tump of groping her.Dont believe a single thing this money hungry leach comes up with.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 4, 2016 23:43:56 GMT
Yep, and unlike the emailz smoke and mirrors, it is real and there is a court date. Media is completely letting this one slide. If it were happening in the reverse it would have been wall to wall coverage for months and calls to pull out of the race would have been legion..... You mean a civil case that's already been dropped once? Do you know Bill Clinton flew on the same guy's plane to the tropics for years? LOL! www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/“Johnson” had previously filed forms asking to be let off the hook for the costs of the lawsuit, claiming she had only $300 to her name ... such an allowance — known as in forma paupers — is only given in civil rights cases in California, and the judge ruled that she “failed to state a claim for relief” on a civil rights basis, even though she “utilized the form provided by the Central District of California for civil actions.” “Even construing the ... pleading liberally, Plaintiff has not alleged any race-based or class-based animus against her, and consequently, her ... allegations fail to state a claim upon which relief may be granted,” the judge wrote ... the address listed on the paperwork leads to an abandoned property, and the phone number goes straight to voicemail." Dictionary definition of a frivolous lawsuit. What coverage should there be? I can just see the article in the next issue of The Baked In Times for the Baked: "The TRUMP Lawsuit THEY Don't Want You to Know about!" The Epstein Trump relationship is troubling to me and should be investigated. The Epstein Bill Clinton relationship is troubling to me and should be investigated.
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Post by jmwalters on Nov 4, 2016 23:51:28 GMT
Oh Henry.....using Silver is cute. You do know he is not the only game in town, right? I will let you in on a little secret....campaign internal polls are the most accurate. Why you ask? They use such things as voter profiles, targeted demographics from unaffiliated voters, self-identified voters, etc....and can accurately deduce outcomes based on early voting. For example, Clark County in NV has more voters than the rest of the state combined. So far, using analytics of the early vote the Clinton campaign has banked enough votes that it is nearly impossible for Trump to catch up on tuesday. NV is over, Clinton has it...and clinched it on the same day a shitty pollster gave Trump a 6 point lead. This analysis can be done in all other states with early voting. CO, VA, NC and FL are the same as well. OH is still up in the air but Clinton doesnt need OH, Trump does. GA AZ, and TX are too close to call at the moment...and again, Clinton doesnt need them Trump does. This is how it works, my friend. What the heck are you talking about? Trump is ahead in early voting in FL, if you believe in that sort of thing. I don't. OH is a done deal for Trump-they're way above the level they were in early/AI/N8SLVR/fake votes in 2012 and he's polled very well for months. The Senate seat up for grabs is 10 points ahead in polling for the Republican The polls is Nevada are almost always wrong. You and the DNC talking points you regurgitate might say a level of innacuarcy is "baked in." For a supposed political scientist or scientism-ist, you seem to be confusing early voting speculation, polls, and actual ballots. Ballots counted on November 8th, only. lol....yes Henry, I am a DNC operative with my mission to turn you to the darkside!!! Fake votes...rigged!!!! We are just talking past each other at this point. Let's reconvene Wednesday morning. I will talk you off a ledge and educate you on how internal polling works (full disclosure, I used to do it for a living several years back)...I get the feeling you will appreciate it more then May the best person win on Tuesday.
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Post by badhabitude on Nov 5, 2016 0:01:42 GMT
At least there shouldn't be any more bombshells before election for either candidate. They would have launched them by now, not enough time left even if someone has someone on tape or in video doing something unspeakable.
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