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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 11:16:54 GMT
Icarus Syndrome. He thinks nothing can touch him after he won the primary. The Republicans are spineless, if one of the top dogs came out and defended him, even just to say it was overblown, that would have helped. Most of the so called big dogs don't want him to win. He could set that party back 16 years if he gets 4, and they know it. Not endorsing Ryan or McCain looks petty and vindictive. Hands schmands, his insecurity is what makes you think he wears a kid's size jock. Calling the election rigged at this stage is like those "fans" who start calling their teams bitches and gutless at the first sign of adversity so they don't feel disappointed when they lose. I don't believe that. The Republicans have a majority in the House, Senate, and state governorships eight years after GWB.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 11:22:57 GMT
No, it's 8 to 3. I knew you were an illiterate. He's down by 8 pts it's going to be a landslide you stupid fuck wad He's down by one in another poll. Or do you think there's only one? Are you wearing boxing gloves when you post? www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/I'm emboldened by the fact that everything you say on here is wrong. But I did hear there was a serious back and forth before the Stamkos extension because of Barry Pe(d)erson's blood clots in the early 80s. Ha ha!
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 3, 2016 12:05:16 GMT
Most of the so called big dogs don't want him to win. He could set that party back 16 years if he gets 4, and they know it. Not endorsing Ryan or McCain looks petty and vindictive. Hands schmands, his insecurity is what makes you think he wears a kid's size jock. Calling the election rigged at this stage is like those "fans" who start calling their teams bitches and gutless at the first sign of adversity so they don't feel disappointed when they lose. I don't believe that. The Republicans have a majority in the House, Senate, and state governorships eight years after GWB. Exactly. And now they're throwing in with a presidential candidate who is touting radical policies that could be horrible for the US economy and social fabric - likely will be. They have the popular vote to control the actual legislative branches, so that's a lot to lose if any of the soft support figures they've either gone to far - fiscal conservatives - or that they aren't what they thought they were getting.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 13:20:21 GMT
I'm really concerned about Trump calling the elections rigged. That just isn't true, if anything it's skewed toward conservatives. I'm concerned about Trump inciting violence claiming the elections are rigged.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 13:26:06 GMT
I'm really concerned about Trump calling the elections rigged. That just isn't true, if anything it's skewed toward conservatives. I'm concerned about Trump inciting violence claiming the elections are rigged. In 2012 a few precincts in Philadelphia reported 0 (!) votes for Mitt Romney. Rigged is a strong word, only the Democratice primaries are rigged, but to say there isn't any voter fraud is innacurate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 13:29:49 GMT
I don't believe that. The Republicans have a majority in the House, Senate, and state governorships eight years after GWB. Exactly. And now they're throwing in with a presidential candidate who is touting radical policies that could be horrible for the US economy and social fabric - likely will be. They have the popular vote to control the actual legislative branches, so that's a lot to lose if any of the soft support figures they've either gone to far - fiscal conservatives - or that they aren't what they thought they were getting. The house Republicans are spineless. They've fought more with Donald Trump this year than Barack Obama. They've done nothing with their majority but block Obama SC appointees. Their majority is going to stay firm, they redrew the lines in the 2010 REDMAP project. With the electoral math being what it is (Democrats start with hundreds of votes because of NY and California) they're acting like they don't even care to win the Presidency. www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/ratfcked-the-influence-of-redistrictingI'm really fed up with the GOP post Bush. They aren't losing elections because of the media or abortion, they're losing elections because they have feckless candidates without any real accomplishments.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 13:42:31 GMT
I'm really concerned about Trump calling the elections rigged. That just isn't true, if anything it's skewed toward conservatives. I'm concerned about Trump inciting violence claiming the elections are rigged. In 2012 a few precincts in Philadelphia reported 0 (!) votes for Mitt Romney. Rigged is a strong word, only the Democratice primaries are rigged, but to say there isn't any voter fraud is innacurate. Of course there must be some voter fraud, it's impossible to have zero fraud. Enough to sway a Presidential, Congressional or House election? There is zero evidence of that.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 3, 2016 14:03:37 GMT
Exactly. And now they're throwing in with a presidential candidate who is touting radical policies that could be horrible for the US economy and social fabric - likely will be. They have the popular vote to control the actual legislative branches, so that's a lot to lose if any of the soft support figures they've either gone to far - fiscal conservatives - or that they aren't what they thought they were getting. The house Republicans are spineless. They've fought more with Donald Trump this year than Barack Obama. They've done nothing with their majority but block Obama SC appointees. Their majority is going to stay firm, they redrew the lines in the 2010 REDMAP project. With the electoral math being what it is (Democrats start with hundreds of votes because of NY and California) they're acting like they don't even care to win the Presidency. www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/ratfcked-the-influence-of-redistrictingI'm really fed up with the GOP post Bush. They aren't losing elections because of the media or abortion, they're losing elections because they have feckless candidates without any real accomplishments. Yep. Real accomplishments or real policy. Small government, don't tread on me crap is administration and internal politics; only marketing and those devoid of ideas make it seem like a public policy issue. Identify the problems. Develop solutions. Figure out how best to deliver on those solutions and who holds the keys. Size of government and regulating who fucks or marries or gives birth has nothing to do with any of it.
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Post by 50belowzero on Aug 3, 2016 14:57:57 GMT
If there was a Trump 2.0 - the one who was going to be more presidential and civil after he secured the nomination - he'd have a real shot at beating the crooked hag. But he just can't seem to help himself. He just can't help himself says it all. Once an ego driven blowhard, always an ego driven blowhard. I agree on the Trump 2.0 as well. I thought his shtick would have worn out long ago and maybe if eventually will. As a viewer from away, it has been both funny & sad at the same time, never dull and always entertaining thats for sure.
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Post by neelycam on Aug 3, 2016 16:09:49 GMT
He's down by 8 pts it's going to be a landslide you stupid fuck wad He's down by one in another poll. Or do you think there's only one? Are you wearing boxing gloves when you post? www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/I'm emboldened by the fact that everything you say on here is wrong. But I did hear there was a serious back and forth before the Stamkos extension because of Barry Pe(d)erson's blood clots in the early 80s. Ha ha! Your right there is other polls That have him now down by 10. U dumb shit. I don't even think trump wants to win from the stupid shit that keeps spewing out of his mouth
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 16:23:56 GMT
He's down by one in another poll. Or do you think there's only one? Are you wearing boxing gloves when you post? www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/I'm emboldened by the fact that everything you say on here is wrong. But I did hear there was a serious back and forth before the Stamkos extension because of Barry Pe(d)erson's blood clots in the early 80s. Ha ha! Your right there is other polls That have him now down by 10. U dumb shit. I don't even think trump wants to win from the stupid shit that keeps spewing out of his mouth I don't think you should curse at political opponents. However, I can understand it. Trump has been very polarizing and very antagonistic so I can completely understand the anger against the Trump worshipers. I also will expect that Henry will deny all of this, because as far as they are concerned the sun shines out of Trump's ass. Hillary is far from the perfect candidate, but a much better option than Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 16:38:53 GMT
He's down by one in another poll. Or do you think there's only one? Are you wearing boxing gloves when you post? www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/I'm emboldened by the fact that everything you say on here is wrong. But I did hear there was a serious back and forth before the Stamkos extension because of Barry Pe(d)erson's blood clots in the early 80s. Ha ha! Your right there is other polls That have him now down by 10. U dumb shit. I don't even think trump wants to win from the stupid shit that keeps spewing out of his mouth Go back to your cave. You have no purpose here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 16:41:55 GMT
Your right there is other polls That have him now down by 10. U dumb shit. I don't even think trump wants to win from the stupid shit that keeps spewing out of his mouth I don't think you should curse at political opponents. However, I can understand it. Trump has been very polarizing and very antagonistic so I can completely understand the anger against the Trump worshipers. I also will expect that Henry will deny all of this, because as far as they are concerned the sun shines out of Trump's ass. Hillary is far from the perfect candidate, but a much better option than Trump. Well, don't get too high on poll results like Rosco/Marco/Stanley over there. Hillary and Tim Kaine are on a bus tour that can't draw flies. They're booking themselves into high school gyms and they're a third full. You would hope that Trump would focus on the daily scandals (today is Obama paying 400 million to release Iranian hostages) instead of trying to win a grudge match style campaign.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 16:57:06 GMT
I don't think you should curse at political opponents. However, I can understand it. Trump has been very polarizing and very antagonistic so I can completely understand the anger against the Trump worshipers. I also will expect that Henry will deny all of this, because as far as they are concerned the sun shines out of Trump's ass. Hillary is far from the perfect candidate, but a much better option than Trump. Well, don't get too high on poll results like Rosco/Marco/Stanley over there. Hillary and Tim Kaine are on a bus tour that can't draw flies. They're booking themselves into high school gyms and they're a third full. You would hope that Trump would focus on the daily scandals (today is Obama paying 400 million to release Iranian hostages) instead of trying to win a grudge match style campaign. I am open minded and seek out alternative news sources like foreign sources and of course the upi and api, sources without a dog in the fight. I think any right minded open minded person would do this. Unless you want to hear the news you would prefer to hear rather than the truth. I told you so you know I had family under Communism, under Stalin in particular. They honestly believed that Stalin was a super man, that he would be a great doctor or engineer if he weren't already Dictator. or look at how the leadership is currently perceived in North Korea - and check into what people there actually believe. But I'm wasting my breath, I have a better chance of convincing you not to be a Habs fan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 17:01:02 GMT
Well, don't get too high on poll results like Rosco/Marco/Stanley over there. Hillary and Tim Kaine are on a bus tour that can't draw flies. They're booking themselves into high school gyms and they're a third full. You would hope that Trump would focus on the daily scandals (today is Obama paying 400 million to release Iranian hostages) instead of trying to win a grudge match style campaign. I am open minded and seek out alternative news sources like foreign sources and of course the upi and api, sources without a dog in the fight. I think any right minded open minded person would do this. Unless you want to hear the news you would prefer to hear rather than the truth. I told you so you know I had family under Communism, under Stalin in particular. They honestly believed that Stalin was a super man, that he would be a great doctor or engineer if he weren't already Dictator. or look at how the leadership is currently perceived in North Korea - and check into what people there actually believe. But I'm wasting my breath, I have a better chance of convincing you not to be a Habs fan. I don't understand what that has to do with Trump or what I said. Seems every person to ever run for a major office against a Democrat a racist, sexist, rich, homophobic dictator in waiting drooling over another War and starving children. Old hat. Hillary lost this race twice. To Obama and would have to Bernie in a fair race. The DNC keeps passing around this potato and nobody wants it.
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Post by Fletcher on Aug 3, 2016 17:10:42 GMT
Can we cut out the more vulgar personal insults here? There are a million places to argue about politics on the internet, and this really doesn't need to be one of them. But if we're going to have a politics thread, let's at least keep it from devolving into the gutter. Besides, nobody likes either of them...
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 17:15:14 GMT
I am open minded and seek out alternative news sources like foreign sources and of course the upi and api, sources without a dog in the fight. I think any right minded open minded person would do this. Unless you want to hear the news you would prefer to hear rather than the truth. I told you so you know I had family under Communism, under Stalin in particular. They honestly believed that Stalin was a super man, that he would be a great doctor or engineer if he weren't already Dictator. or look at how the leadership is currently perceived in North Korea - and check into what people there actually believe. But I'm wasting my breath, I have a better chance of convincing you not to be a Habs fan. I don't understand what that has to do with Trump or what I said. Seems every person to ever run for a major office against a Democrat a racist, sexist, rich, homophobic dictator in waiting drooling over another War and starving children. Old hat. Hillary lost this race twice. To Obama and would have to Bernie in a fair race. The DNC keeps passing around this potato and nobody wants it. Because what you are saying is tainted by your sources.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 17:22:29 GMT
I don't understand what that has to do with Trump or what I said. Seems every person to ever run for a major office against a Democrat a racist, sexist, rich, homophobic dictator in waiting drooling over another War and starving children. Old hat. Hillary lost this race twice. To Obama and would have to Bernie in a fair race. The DNC keeps passing around this potato and nobody wants it. Because what you are saying is tainted by your sources. The Wall Street Journal isn't a reliable source? Obama isn't denying he paid 400 million to the Iranians, btw.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 17:25:13 GMT
Can we cut out the more vulgar personal insults here? There are a million places to argue about politics on the internet, and this really doesn't need to be one of them. But if we're going to have a politics thread, let's at least keep it from devolving into the gutter. Besides, nobody likes either of them... You are unfit to run this forum. You don't understand the system here, only I know the system and there is no one better qualified to run it better than me. As a matter of fact everyone here is unqualified except me. Since I was unfairly removed from the rigged voting of the survivor bracket If I were elected in the survivor bracket this mess of a website would get straightened out and it would get straightened out fast. Look what's happening, I see many more guests than I do regular members viewing the board. These guests are taking up resources that true board members deserve. I have made many sacrifices on this board, just one example is that I've posted here. And I'm friends with Russians and Poles and Ukrainians, no wait, no, I'm not. But anyway, just crown me king of the survivor forum and this will all go away. After I take the oath of office NeelyCam, Sandog, Henry and myself will all be on the same page because I am clearly the greatest unifier on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 17:26:04 GMT
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 17:33:38 GMT
Yes. I know. Your take on this is oversimplified. There is a lot of deal making going on in the world you know. For example in Afghanistan known Taliban who have been known to have killed Americans can get amnesty by turning themselves, their weapons and information in. Oh, and before you get to it, freeing up frozen Iranian assets isn't giving money to Iran you know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 17:44:12 GMT
Yes. I know. Your take on this is oversimplified. There is a lot of deal making going on in the world you know. For example in Afghanistan known Taliban who have been known to have killed Americans can get amnesty by turning themselves, their weapons and information in. Oh, and before you get to it, freeing up frozen Iranian assets isn't giving money to Iran you know. Why is it a secret then? I have no reason to believe anything this administration or the fat potato they've lined up to take over says.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 3, 2016 17:47:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 17:51:55 GMT
Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in what the other stands for, but taken alone, neither of these turkeys is fit to run the country. Just an unmitigated loss for America.
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Post by islamorada on Aug 3, 2016 18:27:44 GMT
Can we cut out the more vulgar personal insults here? There are a million places to argue about politics on the internet, and this really doesn't need to be one of them. But if we're going to have a politics thread, let's at least keep it from devolving into the gutter. Besides, nobody likes either of them... View AttachmentHuey Long is quoted under San Dogs avatar. He was an unmitigated demagogue. Franklin D Roosevelt was more conservative fiscally than Herbert Hoover, Chester Arthur along with Teddy Roosevelt were loathed by the Republican parties before becoming Presidebts by accident. Both rose to the occasion. There are too many examples of recent Presidents to justify one party over another. Relax. Btw Badhab one of the guest speakers I had fortune to hear was David Faber. He passed away last year. He fingered Adolph Eichman.
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