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Post by badhabitude on Aug 3, 2016 19:06:47 GMT
Can we cut out the more vulgar personal insults here? There are a million places to argue about politics on the internet, and this really doesn't need to be one of them. But if we're going to have a politics thread, let's at least keep it from devolving into the gutter. Besides, nobody likes either of them... Huey Long is quoted under San Dogs avatar. He was an unmitigated demagogue. Franklin D Roosevelt was more conservative fiscally than Herbert Hoover, Chester Arthur along with Teddy Roosevelt were loathed by the Republican parties before becoming Presidebts by accident. Both rose to the occasion. There are too many examples of recent Presidents to justify one party over another. Relax. Btw Badhab one of the guest speakers I had fortune to hear was David Faber. He passed away last year. He fingered Adolph Eichman. Yes, a testament to what hatred of a particular section of the population can lead to. Unfortunately some do not see it now.
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Post by bookboy007 on Aug 3, 2016 19:18:21 GMT
Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in what the other stands for, but taken alone, neither of these turkeys is fit to run the country. Just an unmitigated loss for America. Where's Frank Underwood? He walks both sides of the aisle (if you now what I mean...)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 19:27:54 GMT
Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in what the other stands for, but taken alone, neither of these turkeys is fit to run the country. Just an unmitigated loss for America. Where's Frank Underwood? He walks both sides of the aisle (if you now what I mean...) We got Willie Stark's wife. Not his wife by marriage, though. We've got Sadie Burke.
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Post by islamorada on Aug 3, 2016 19:32:57 GMT
I think seeing clearly is a matter of perspective. My point is that JFKs speech was plagiarized. Ron Reagan worked to delay on hostage crises. Hillary and Bill did whitewater circumvention. George Bush the greater called Milton Friedmans economics.... Voodoo economics. OBama has created just as many jobs as Reagan.....the exception is it the public sector not the private sector. Check out the Forbes article on the subject. David Faber loved America even though FDR knew of the holocaust in the early 1940s. My students loved the man, he was a complex but simple man. I hope you knew of him. I had dinner with him and spoke to him privately in his visits to NH from San Diego, the area he lived and loved in the last decades of his life. Trump v. Clinton is a joke to me politically. It is the Congress that rules. The Congress is ruled by the bureaucracy. It is the fourth branch of government that more endangers your life than the candidates. No one speaks of the debt, it is a silent destroyer of what makes the USA great. Independent enterprise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 21:20:49 GMT
The house Republicans are spineless. They've fought more with Donald Trump this year than Barack Obama. They've done nothing with their majority but block Obama SC appointees. Their majority is going to stay firm, they redrew the lines in the 2010 REDMAP project. With the electoral math being what it is (Democrats start with hundreds of votes because of NY and California) they're acting like they don't even care to win the Presidency. www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/ratfcked-the-influence-of-redistrictingI'm really fed up with the GOP post Bush. They aren't losing elections because of the media or abortion, they're losing elections because they have feckless candidates without any real accomplishments. Yep. Real accomplishments or real policy. Small government, don't tread on me crap is administration and internal politics; only marketing and those devoid of ideas make it seem like a public policy issue. Identify the problems. Develop solutions. Figure out how best to deliver on those solutions and who holds the keys. Size of government and regulating who fucks or marries or gives birth has nothing to do with any of it. They need someone like Barry Goldwater or Reagan to come into the picture. Trump has the personality, but he's as thin on policy as any nominee I've ever seen. Gerald Ford-like.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Aug 3, 2016 23:00:09 GMT
Yep. Real accomplishments or real policy. Small government, don't tread on me crap is administration and internal politics; only marketing and those devoid of ideas make it seem like a public policy issue. Identify the problems. Develop solutions. Figure out how best to deliver on those solutions and who holds the keys. Size of government and regulating who fucks or marries or gives birth has nothing to do with any of it. They need someone like Barry Goldwater or Reagan to come into the picture. Trump has the personality, but he's as thin on policy as any nominee I've ever seen. Gerald Ford-like. If he goes on to lose the election, do you think this will be the main reason should he continue to perform as he has in this regard? He hasn't been very forthcoming with specifics in this area.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 23:29:32 GMT
They need someone like Barry Goldwater or Reagan to come into the picture. Trump has the personality, but he's as thin on policy as any nominee I've ever seen. Gerald Ford-like. If he goes on to lose the election, do you think this will be the main reason should he continue to perform as he has in this regard? He hasn't been very forthcoming with specifics in this area. He's not doing his homework. Every President has strengths and weaknesses, but he's not doing the work outside of the spotlight to look competent on these issues. Which isn't hard, no contender talks at length about policy details. Supposedly he spends most of his downtime watching the coverage of himself. If he loses it's because of inexperience. He's in so many arguments at once it's really crazy, and the ones against the Khan's, Paul Ryan, and John McCain can only hurt him. The Press roasts Republicans at the spit and he keep coming back for seconds.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 1:25:08 GMT
The hostage exchange will only piss off the base of voters that already hate Obama. Cash-to-Iran is not going to change the election in anyway. And of course, in the minds of conseravtives, the Iran-Contra was no big big deal but anything that Obama does is a failure.
The polls switching back in favor of Clinton, higher margins, than before the GOP convention, Trump sending representatives into Ryan's Wisconsin district, not endorsing Ryan, getting caught lying about his previous Putin statements, being told by the Kochs in Colorado Springs to take a hike "you are not getting any of our money" and alienating veterans is basically handing the election to corrupt Clinton and her arms dealer foundation.
Trump could still head into Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada and Florida to try n get some votes but he won't. He isn't smart enough to out hustle Clinton in those states. All the big money GOP donors are sinking their money into keeping a majority in the Senate. If Trump drops out, and he could, it will be interesting to see if the "Trump Brand" suffers financially following all this mayhem. The Orange Racoon had a disaster of a week.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 1:34:39 GMT
If there was a Trump 2.0 - the one who was going to be more presidential and civil after he secured the nomination - he'd have a real shot at beating the crooked hag. But he just can't seem to help himself. He just can't help himself says it all. Once an ego driven blowhard, always an ego driven blowhard. I agree on the Trump 2.0 as well. I thought his shtick would have worn out long ago and maybe if eventually will. As a viewer from away, it has been both funny & sad at the same time, never dull and always entertaining thats for sure. Drumpf's entertainment factor is through the roof. And he is a job creator!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 1:34:58 GMT
Trump isn't dropping out. That rumor is 100% media driven.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 1:55:24 GMT
He just can't help himself says it all. Once an ego driven blowhard, always an ego driven blowhard. I agree on the Trump 2.0 as well. I thought his shtick would have worn out long ago and maybe if eventually will. As a viewer from away, it has been both funny & sad at the same time, never dull and always entertaining thats for sure. Drumpf's entertainment factor is through the roof. And he is a job creator! I thought Kzihr Kahn was Hilary's running mate. Superdud Tim Kaine was a story for an afternoon at best. Looks like Carl Ichan is closing the Trump Casino in AC after owning it for some odd years. He lost 100 mill and the casino (not him) declared bankruptcy...I guess Icahn is a joke businessman as well, huh? www.yahoo.com/news/trump-taj-mahal-strike-longest-151358241.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 1:57:02 GMT
He took a beating in the casino biz, and filed bankruptcy four times because of it. In ^this^ midboggling statement you let everyone on here know your horrible knowledge of success in business. You are a sucker for propaganda. Womp womp
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 2:00:40 GMT
In ^this^ midboggling statement you let everyone on here know your horrible knowledge of success in business. You are a sucker for propaganda. Womp womp Ha Ha you are comparing Carl Ichan as a businessman to Drumpf. You are awful. Thanks for reiterating what I already know. Terrible!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 2:02:03 GMT
Ha Ha you are comparing Karl Ichan as a businessman to Drumpf. You are awful. Thanks for reiterating what I already know. Terrible! Womp womp. Thanks for the lecture. Maybe you can teach one about the edible gummy bears biz, hippy! It's (C)arl Icahn. As we know from your previous posts, anybody that fails in the casino biz is a failure in business, even if they're worth millions.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 2:03:59 GMT
Carl Ichan vs Donald Drumpf what a laugh.
Man that was good!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 2:07:24 GMT
Carl Ichan vs Donald Drumpf what a laugh. Man that was good! Hey! You spelled it right! You keep this up and you'll grasp the concept of personal bankruptcy! Next up, you'll be able to discern the value of GDP vs the unemployment rate when picking the correct indice to evaluate the economy.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 2:12:08 GMT
You put your support next to that moron. And it is awesome! The US economy always does better with a Democrat in the White House since Eisenhower. You are to stupid to realize it. Poor Hank B still pawing his way through a wet bag.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 2:13:46 GMT
Ha Ha you are comparing Karl Ichan as a businessman to Drumpf. You are awful. Thanks for reiterating what I already know. Terrible! It's (C)arl Icahn. As we know from your previous posts, anybody that fails in the casino biz is a failure in business, even if they're worth millions. Comparing the millionaire next a real billionaire has Hank Bs stamp! You are awful!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 2:16:04 GMT
I like to think the success I enjoy is because I never give up...called a naive moron and proven to be correct in less than a week. Trump never gives up either, and he's going to give that corrupt fat potato a run for the all the money the Arabs gave her.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Aug 4, 2016 2:24:52 GMT
Hey how about that GOP convention bump in the polls ? Faux News has Piano Legs up by 10 and Obama's approval rating at 52%. I think it's time for more congressional email and Bengahzi hearings! LOL
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Post by NAS on Aug 4, 2016 3:02:07 GMT
Yeah, it's easy to get caught up in what the other stands for, but taken alone, neither of these turkeys is fit to run the country. Just an unmitigated loss for America. Where's Frank Underwood? He walks both sides of the aisle (if you now what I mean...) That goddamn scene will haunt me forever.
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Post by NAS on Aug 4, 2016 3:03:11 GMT
Hey how about that GOP convention bump in the polls ? Faux News has Piano Legs up by 10 and Obama's approval rating at 52%. I think it's time for more congressional email and Bengahzi hearings! LOL You may get your wish. Wikileaks has said they are not done yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 3:21:48 GMT
Hey how about that GOP convention bump in the polls ? Faux News has Piano Legs up by 10 and Obama's approval rating at 52%. I think it's time for more congressional email and Bengahzi hearings! LOL Yeah, that's called a bounce. So presumably, you're calling me out for being overly enthusiastic about a short lived rise in the polls while you do the same exact thing. Smart. Benghazi was hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 3:22:41 GMT
Hey how about that GOP convention bump in the polls ? Faux News has Piano Legs up by 10 and Obama's approval rating at 52%. I think it's time for more congressional email and Bengahzi hearings! LOL You may get your wish. Wikileaks has said they are not done yet. It's never, ever, ever over with the Clintons.
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Post by badhabitude on Aug 4, 2016 14:01:53 GMT
Only THE BadHab can clean up this stalemate thread and fix this mess of a website.
Henry, why are you supporting the MONTREAL Canadiens who clearly are not an American team? Further, the Canadiens have Russian players which exposes your ties to Putin. And I suppose you are going to claim you never even met Putin? Why are you supporting a sport that employs at least 85% foreign workers? Why don't you support the AMERICAN hockey league that only employs Americans? That's why they call it the AMERICAN hockey league, because they only allow Americans to play there.
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