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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Jun 23, 2015 19:02:08 GMT
PC had to unload someone or not sign Krug and Smith or he would have been over the cap to start season. JB cap at 3.4 in ufa year was one had to go as he was going to get a raise, much more than the 4m for 4yrs he gave Seid.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jun 23, 2015 19:28:08 GMT
Smith is the obvious choice to me along with Kelly. That is $6M in cap space.
A RW for Krejci is more important than keeping that money.
Let Connolly play with Bergeron or Spooner.
Then make a play for a RW through a separate trade.
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Post by jbrennan92 on Jun 24, 2015 14:53:03 GMT
I think he will make a trade of someone like Loui, but it wont be at the draft it will be later on in the summer.
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Post by willieoree on Jun 24, 2015 20:41:19 GMT
Hearing Lucic to Vancouver for Edler!!! or to Rangers for Yandle?!! I threw up in my mouth a little at these...
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 24, 2015 21:06:32 GMT
Hearing Lucic to Vancouver for Edler!!! or to Rangers for Yandle?!! I threw up in my mouth a little at these... From Haggs? Yikes, this guy is the National Inquirer of hockey insiders, ignore it.
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Post by willieoree on Jun 25, 2015 1:33:46 GMT
Not holding this up as any kinda evidence, more, showing the kinda double-speak that goes on...
"NBC SPORTS: Dhiren Mahiban reports the Bruins have not approached Lucic about a trade. He recently submitted an updated list of 15 teams he would accept being dealt to."
Which is it? Doesn't submitting an updated list of teams you're willing to be traded to constitute being approached about a trade?
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 25, 2015 1:37:28 GMT
Not holding this up as any kinda evidence, more, showing the kinda double-speak that goes on... "NBC SPORTS: Dhiren Mahiban reports the Bruins have not approached Lucic about a trade. He recently submitted an updated list of 15 teams he would accept being dealt to." Which is it? Doesn't submitting an updated list of teams you're willing to be traded to constitute being approached about a trade? No kidding. Hi Milan, we don't want to trade you, but could you give us a list of teams you'd be willing to go to? Who's this Mahiban anyway?
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Post by willieoree on Jun 25, 2015 1:38:38 GMT
I'm hating that 'Haggs' is becoming some kinda go-to guy for all things Bruins. He's a rinkrat. Nothing more. Gets cited more than Fluto. I don't think anyone's talking to this guy. He seems to have no contacts of any sort. Bob McKenzie is an Insider. Haggerty is an Imposter
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 25, 2015 1:41:58 GMT
If this report is true, then i guess they could have asked him to submit a list. If they get a trade to their liking, then they could approach him at that point in time.
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Post by StanleyCuptotheBRUINSin2011 on Jun 25, 2015 3:02:42 GMT
We'll see if DS has the balls that PC didn't have ....
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Post by 50belowzero on Jun 25, 2015 3:04:30 GMT
We'll see if DS has the balls that PC didn't have .... ……to do what Stanley?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 12:03:58 GMT
Not holding this up as any kinda evidence, more, showing the kinda double-speak that goes on... "NBC SPORTS: Dhiren Mahiban reports the Bruins have not approached Lucic about a trade. He recently submitted an updated list of 15 teams he would accept being dealt to." Which is it? Doesn't submitting an updated list of teams you're willing to be traded to constitute being approached about a trade? It's obviously a technicality for players who have this built into their contracts. Going through capgeek when it was still going................one could see many instances where it stated the player could update a list of teams for modified no trade contracts at a certain date. There is no mystery as to why the date occurred after the season was over with.
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Post by crowls on Jun 25, 2015 12:05:54 GMT
Haggs is a clown. From his recent piece...
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While there are other names in play for the Bruins, such as Loui Eriksson, Chris Kelly and Dennis Seidenberg, Milan Lucic’s name has popped up in trade chatter this week.
There were a couple of hot rumors flying around on Tuesday about the 27-year-old B’s left winger as teams kick the tires on potential deals. Faint whispers out of New York had the Bruins and New York Rangers considering a swap of Lucic for Keith Yandle in a deal that could conceivably help both teams.
Lucic would bring toughness and attitude to a Rangers team that could use a little more of both among their forwards, and Yandle is the top-four defenseman in his prime that the Bruins need to go along with the older (Zdeno Chara, Dennis Seidenberg) and younger (Dougie Hamilton, Torey Krug) parts.
Yandle didn’t prove to be a perfect fit for New York last season after coming aboard at the NHL trade deadline, but it’s difficult to see the Rangers parting ways with him given the circumstances around his trade to New York.
The Rangers have the All-Star defenseman for a $2.625M cap hit because Arizona swallowed half his contract to come to New York and the Blueshirts gave up a significant haul (a top prospect in Anthony Duclair, John Moore and a first- and second-round pick) to acquire him in the first place.
The Bruins would love to have the services of a All-Star D-man in Yandle, 28, who can move the puck, effectively quarterback the power play and log 20-plus minutes a night in anybody’s top four group in the NHL. Yandle is also a player the Bruins have been linked to for years given his Boston (Milton, Mass.) roots, and his desire to someday play for his hometown team. Given what the Rangers paid for Yandle in the first place at the trade deadline, it’s difficult to see this trade actually happening even if it might make some sense for both sides.
One thing is for sure, the Bruins are dangling Lucic while trying to land an established top-four defenseman to help them right now.
------------------ Really Joe, faint whisper on a Yandle deal? Bruins would love to have Yandle? Difficult to see this trade actually happening? One thing is for sure, the Bruins are dangling Lucic?
How does any of this actually get published?
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jun 25, 2015 13:24:49 GMT
Maybe Haggs doctor told him recently that he needed "spectacles" and Hacking thought he heard "more speculating" ?
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Post by The OC on Jun 25, 2015 13:31:02 GMT
I think Sweeney will try to deal someone sooner rather than later. The training camp deal of Boychuck was unpopular with players, coaches and fans. Donnie will try to avoid that.
Boston really needs to deal someone. One of their biggest issues right now is the "core" is too big and too costly. Personally, my #1 target is Loui because he's soft but still a good player that people would trade for. He's also got a cap hit that would provide relief and he's UFA. If I'm going bigger I start to look at Rask because I don't think he brings value to the team proportional to his cap hit. I doubt Rask is going anywhere.
So I think Loui gets dealt for someone younger, cheaper and tougher, and I'm happy about that.
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Post by willieoree on Jun 25, 2015 18:19:23 GMT
I think Sweeney will try to deal someone sooner rather than later. The training camp deal of Boychuck was unpopular with players, coaches and fans. Donnie will try to avoid that. Boston really needs to deal someone. One of their biggest issues right now is the "core" is too big and too costly. Personally, my #1 target is Loui because he's soft but still a good player that people would trade for. He's also got a cap hit that would provide relief and he's UFA. If I'm going bigger I start to look at Rask because I don't think he brings value to the team proportional to his cap hit. I doubt Rask is going anywhere.
So I think Loui gets dealt for someone younger, cheaper and tougher, and I'm happy about that. Any or all of the Bruins core would command the same or more money on the open market. Rask would easily get what he makes with the Bruins anywhere else. Value is what the market dictates it is. I'm stating the obvious...obviously, but I like the Bruins core - even paying Dougie and Lucic the big bucks. I would entertain moving David Krejci, but only for someone who (of commensurate salary) adds something more to the Bruins greater good. (again, Brent Burns or Ryan O'Reilly). In other words, I would only trade core for fore. I look to the next level on the depth chart (the 3-5 million set) to find value or bang-for-the-buck to find cap relief....Seidenberg, Kelly, Smith, Krug and maybe even Eriksson (though he is such a glue guy, I'd be sorry to see him go)
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Post by willieoree on Jun 25, 2015 18:20:43 GMT
'core for core' (sorry)
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Post by bookboy007 on Jun 25, 2015 20:42:22 GMT
That was in addition to Savvy's money! I believe Savard's $$ was not used at the beginning of last season which is one reason PC dealt JB for picks..to get cap room And you would believe incorrectly. After the JB trade, the Bruins chose to call up Spooner and a number of other players - a whack them - so that the roster was as close to $4.007M over the cap as possible when they put Savard on LTIR. This allowed them to maximize the flex. Or, as NAS coined it, Chiarelli playing *ucky*uck.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jun 25, 2015 20:48:00 GMT
I voted no because I don't think he needs to worry about the Cap in June. The only way I see it happening would be if they had a chance to acquire a high pick in the first round. I wouldn't do Muir (SI's) type of deal, though, if I was Sweeney - deal a whack of players plus #14 for a Marner or a Strome or a Hanifin. I'd want two picks. So that means the trade would be at best for the low end of the top ten where Crouse and Provorov are likely to go. So I'll go one step beyond saying "no"; if I'm wrong, I predict it's because the Bruins will add a high pick and take Crouse, Provorov, or Werenski.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 21:40:09 GMT
Again to go back to what was initially said at the firing. "We lost our identity" So, which identity are they referring to? The one they had when they didn't have Louie in the lineup for half the season and won the President Trophy & a play-off round. Or the one where he was in the lineup for most of the season and didn't make the play-offs? Also, what I do find interesting is how the Canucks asked Bieksa to waive his ntc. Wonder if DS is asking for him & Kassian for fat.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Jun 25, 2015 21:51:10 GMT
Sweeney traded Soderbergenheim for the 6th round pick PC sent in the Talbot deal.
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Post by walktheline on Jun 25, 2015 21:58:09 GMT
Sweeney traded Soderbergenheim for the 6th round pick PC sent in the Talbot deal. Soooo...the B's have traded the Yeti for Talbot? No, that's not right. I'm so confused!!!
Getting the 6th rounder back shows me that DS is paying attention to the details. I hope. They weren't going to resign Soder so why not find an interested party and extract something in return.
Hopefully the Avs work out a deal with the Yeti...he should feel more at home amongst all those mountains and snow. Fletch will be happy, too.
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Post by walktheline on Jun 25, 2015 22:03:16 GMT
I voted no because I don't think he needs to worry about the Cap in June. The only way I see it happening would be if they had a chance to acquire a high pick in the first round. I wouldn't do Muir (SI's) type of deal, though, if I was Sweeney - deal a whack of players plus #14 for a Marner or a Strome or a Hanifin. I'd want two picks. So that means the trade would be at best for the low end of the top ten where Crouse and Provorov are likely to go. So I'll go one step beyond saying "no"; if I'm wrong, I predict it's because the Bruins will add a high pick and take Crouse, Provorov, or Werenski. I feel like the B's are in a short rebuild so forking over the 14th pick, maybe some other picks and some roster players to move up to say #3 might accomplish less than finding a deal that gets them into the top 10 while keeping the 14th pick. I would be thrilled if DS pulled that off.
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Post by islamorada on Jun 25, 2015 22:24:25 GMT
I think Sweeney will try to deal someone sooner rather than later. The training camp deal of Boychuck was unpopular with players, coaches and fans. Donnie will try to avoid that. Boston really needs to deal someone. One of their biggest issues right now is the "core" is too big and too costly. Personally, my #1 target is Loui because he's soft but still a good player that people would trade for. He's also got a cap hit that would provide relief and he's UFA. If I'm going bigger I start to look at Rask because I don't think he brings value to the team proportional to his cap hit. I doubt Rask is going anywhere. So I think Loui gets dealt for someone younger, cheaper and tougher, and I'm happy about that. If you look bigger, Rask is your number one. I agree if the Bs go beyond Loui as a choice trade then it is a blow up. Depending on the demands of Hamilton and a lesser sense Lucic, I would entertain Krejci in a blow up situation. Meanwhile back at the fort, Loui can bring back something if packaged with draft picks. I am anxious to see what the Bs management, ala DS, bring to the table. The "style of play" media byte spoken through and by the Bs management will be a clear and present realization.
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Post by jmwalters on Jun 25, 2015 22:44:04 GMT
I believe Savard's $$ was not used at the beginning of last season which is one reason PC dealt JB for picks..to get cap room And you would believe incorrectly. After the JB trade, the Bruins chose to call up Spooner and a number of other players - a whack them - so that the roster was as close to $4.007M over the cap as possible when they put Savard on LTIR. This allowed them to maximize the flex. Or, as NAS coined it, Chiarelli playing *ucky*uck. Source?
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