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Post by shuper on May 6, 2023 22:26:43 GMT
And the carousel begins again. Nothing surprising about this separation. Will be hired immediately. I’m guessing Kelly and Midgley fired with GG.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 7, 2023 3:55:14 GMT
I could see Laviolette coaching the Rags, they won't be going with a newbie i wouldn't think, they want to win now.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 7, 2023 12:53:30 GMT
I could see Laviolette coaching the Rags, they won't be going with a newbie i wouldn't think, they want to win now. Good fit me thinks. I mean thats where the carousel.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 7, 2023 19:19:38 GMT
I could see Laviolette coaching the Rags, they won't be going with a newbie i wouldn't think, they want to win now. Good fit me thinks. I mean thats where the carousel. It would be a good fit. I think Drury will go with an experienced coach just because its a veteran lineup, really good goalie and they are primed to win now, fits Laviolette to a T.
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Post by schlich on Sept 18, 2023 0:58:02 GMT
babcock. I win!
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Post by The OC on Sept 18, 2023 1:24:22 GMT
lol. Kinda hilarious he didn't make it to camp.
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Post by 50belowzero on Sept 18, 2023 15:35:31 GMT
lol. Kinda hilarious he didn't make it to camp. Gotta be a record.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 26, 2023 16:13:47 GMT
lol. Kinda hilarious he didn't make it to camp. Yup. Schlichy gets DQed on a technicality.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 26, 2023 17:59:00 GMT
Sportsbookboy betting odds for first coach to be fired.
Montgomery - 100-1: You would think it should be higher, particularly because they may want to scapegoat him if they fall off more than they expect, but given the playoff failure last year, a slow enough start may see Jim gone, especially if they pull the trigger on a big trade first, and things don't improve.
Cooper - 1000-1: Short of a Babcock like lapse in judgement, Coop is safe as houses.
Keefe - 100-1: Just got a vote of confidence from his new boss, but in Toronto, that means very little. They paid Babcock a butt-tonne of cash not to coach for them. If they take a step back, Keefe could be a casualty quicker than you might think.
Maurice - 100-1: Took the Panthers on a surprise run in year one. Could be vulnerable if they play more like the regular season Panthers and the teams below them last year flip the script. But likely safe.
Granato - 20-1: He's done good work in turning Buffalo around, but this is year three and if they look like they haven't taken the next step, I don't think Pegula will be patient. Sorry, Adams (but really Pegula).
Smith - 2-1: The favourite in the clubhouse. Although the current GM gave him a vote of confidence extension, and the new owner didn't ask for his head before signing the deal, there will be changes in the front office and that will make any coach's position shaky...let alone a guy who has never made the playoffs and has had three straight years where the start has tanked their season before Thanksgiving. If they look slow out of the gate, he's gonzo. I give him 7 games unless Ottawa is 5-2 or better at that point.
Lalonde - 40-1: He's going into year two, and Yzerman has shown a willingess to be patient with coaches, but otherwise his situation is similar to Granato's. Detroit won't wait forever, and Tampa Bay and Boston are more vulnerable than they've been in almost a decade.
St Louis - 60-1: Marty is much loved by Canadiens hockey fans who see him as the right French guy to unlock the Gallic flare of Montreal's collection of mighty mites. Most of the other bilingual coaches they could replace him with are defense first guys. He's pretty safe for now.
Brind'Amour - 100-1: You'd think his consistency would move him closer to Cooper territory, but the Bod is going into year six without getting over the hump and with a number of seasons where he's been swept out of the playoffs. Vultures like Gerard Gallant who might be the antidote type to come in, let a bit of air into the lockerroom, and unlock that next level of success are circling. But it would take a lot for him to be first.
Ruff - 50-1: Lindy turned his fortunes around last year and then won a round. They've made some changes, and will have a full season of Meier, so a lot will depend on what the expectations are. Who knows how close the Ruff haters were to getting their wish last year, but someone on the Devils may harbour the suspicion that the roster turned it around, and maybe if they'd acted more expeditiously, another coach could have taken them beyond round two. Once you're close to out the door, you're never that far from it.
Laviolette - 500-1: Too new even for Dolan to send him packing before seeing what they really have.
Lambert - 80-1: The Isles have neither improved nor declined for so long, you wonder if they shouldn't be allowed to just sit the season out and start as the first wild card. Lane Lambert was Barry Trotz's associate for his tenure in Long Island, so while this is his second year as HC, he's been there for the good playoff runs. But the Isles aren't that far from needing to reset, so I could see him going before the 100-1 guys if things don't seem to be improving on the Isle.
Mike Sullivan - 15-1: Pitt will be in win now mode until Crosby retires. They added Karlsson. They added the Boy Who Shit the Bed in Toronto. Sullivan wasn't his choice, and he has zero connection to the Soo Greyhounds, which makes him instantly vulnerable. Pittsburgh missed the playoffs last year. If that looks like it might happen again, and there's a former Soo Greyhound available, I think Dumbass makes the move.
Carbery - 20-1: Guy was just hired to his first gig, but he inherits a team whose best player and legend is almost as old as Bob and a group of aging veterans who have Leonsis convinced that anything short of making a run at the Cup is unacceptable. Rookie coaches have been fired expeditiously before if they look like they're in over their heads. In Carbery's favour, he coached Hershey for a few years and knows some of the young guys who are trying to break in...though that won't help him win a pissing contest with Ovechkin.
Torts - 20-1: the odds of Tortorella being the first/next coach fired are always 20-1. So let it be written, so let it be done.
Whoever the fuck is coaching the BJs - 1000-1: Unless they decide to totally clean house, I expect them to keep their heads down as a franchise and see if CabbagePatch, the weird Finn, and all of their top 10 picks can't generate something positive to build on. No way they fire a guy who just took over under bizarre circumstances.
Bednar - 40-1: Won a Cup. Lost a bunch of talent and then got spanked by a second year expansion team in the playoffs. Tiebreaker...but again, hard to see him being first unless something goes very funky. Unlikely.
DeBoer - 30-1: History shows that DeBoer's odds of being fired progress exponentially on a game by game basis. He is almost inevitably going to be fired by next Halloween, but not likely to get canned sooner than the trade deadline.
Evason - 40-1: It's Minnesota. I dunno. I think Guerin will be happy if their young players make a more significant contribution this year and they don't lose ground.
Bowness - 20-1: Rick roll now means what Bowness does when Schiefele talks to the media. I could see both Schiefele and Hellabuyck making a point of saying that they are more willing to sign if Bowness is gone, and Rick's the oldest coach in the league. He, like DeBoer and Torts, always seems to be ready for firing.
Brunette - 400-1: The Preds win the Brunette sweepstakes, grabbing a guy who took the Panthers to the President's trophy and then got shoved aside for a higher profile coach. Preds have a history of making patience a philosophy, so if you put those two things together, odds that this new hire is first guy fired are very low.
Berube - 10-1: The Blues now are not the 2019 Blues. FA decisions like thinking they could let Pietrangelo go and replace him with Faulk and Krug have come home to roost. Young players have stepped up, but they aren't in the mould that took the Blues to a Cup. Goaltending has tanked, and it sure doesn't seem like Berube has answers. He seems like a logical candidate if things look the same as last year.
Tourigny - 30-1: He improved the Coyotes record from year one to year two, and under his coaching Keller and Schmaltz have become legit first line players. The Coyotes need stability, and they look like they're ready to be more than a lottery team, so it would take a lot to bump Tourigny in year three...but they aren't known for patience and he could well pay if they don't come out strong.
Richardson - 400-1: Luke waited a long time for his shot and has a good rep for working with young players and building a culture. But the best insulation for a coach is low expectations so as long as he doesn't do anything to compromise Bedard's evolution to the superstar they expect, he won't be going anywhere right away.
Bruce - 1000-1: Vegas's management would eat the living heart out of Taylor Swift in front of Travis Kelce and a Rose Bowl full of Swifties if they thought it would be good for the team; they'll make any move that seems spectacular no matter how dumb. But Bruce has a ring despite a bunch of hardships, many self-inflicted. He's not going anywhere.
Woodcroft - 100-1: The Oil were almost as good as the Bruins for a long stretch of last year, and he got even more out of his superstars somehow. But their issue remains defense and goaltending and while he isn't the GM, so he can't acquire new players, he can certainly get more out of what he has. Ekholm alone should make a difference. He seems secure, and has the protection of the fact they have pulled the coach change lever a lot with no real impact. They could pull it again, but unless things are way off base, I think he gets to try again in the playoffs.
McLellan - 50-1: The Kings are a model of reloading. Kopitar and Doughty are still cornerstones, but they've parlayed some down years into some good young players NOT including the highest picks in Byfield and Clarke who they expect to grow into contributors this year. McLellan's gotten more out of them than I would have thought, and the performance of some of their in-house prospects allowed them to land PLD. Whether Todd's the guy to take a team with good offensive talent, some young players but maybe some holes on the blueline and no proven goalie (sounds like his Oilers teams) is a question. He's going into year 5, though, and so it might be expected that they take the next step. Unlikely that he gets gassed before the playoffs unless...
Hakstol - 800-1: Did a great job with the Kraken last year. Impressed the hell out of me when they beat the Bruins early last year. Beat the defending champs. He'd have to end up in the LA Times for trying to rub his nips on people at a wedding he crashed to get fired.
Huska - 1000-1: Conroy, I think, will ride out some transition time before worrying about firing anyone.
Tocchet - 100-1: Rutherford has done weirder things than fire a handpicked coach before he's had more than half a season, but it could happen. Unlikely, though, because Tocchet was the public's choice.
Quinn - 50-1: Quinn has never made the playoffs as a head coach in the NHL, and he made the playoffs once as a pro coach, losing in the first round. He should be well-insulated by the turnover in SJ as Grier remakes the roster, so he isn't likely to be first out the door in his second year in SJ. But they will be bad and that could mean Grier looks for a good news story while he continues to make them worse so they get better quicker.
Cronin - 100-1: Verbeek hires his guy. Have to think he sticks with him. Even Dave Lewis got a full year.
I'll be surprised if it's not DJ Smith, but I'll be even more surprised if it's not Sullivan, Torts, or Bowness either. Or Carbery, but despite the odds I still think that one is more volatile.
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Post by davinator on Sept 27, 2023 15:31:41 GMT
Sportsbookboy betting odds for first coach to be fired. Montgomery - 100-1: You would think it should be higher, particularly because they may want to scapegoat him if they fall off more than they expect, but given the playoff failure last year, a slow enough start may see Jim gone, especially if they pull the trigger on a big trade first, and things don't improve. Cooper - 1000-1: Short of a Babcock like lapse in judgement, Coop is safe as houses. Keefe - 100-1: Just got a vote of confidence from his new boss, but in Toronto, that means very little. They paid Babcock a butt-tonne of cash not to coach for them. If they take a step back, Keefe could be a casualty quicker than you might think. <clip> <clip> <snip> <snip> Quinn - 50-1: Quinn has never made the playoffs as a head coach in the NHL, and he made the playoffs once as a pro coach, losing in the first round. He should be well-insulated by the turnover in SJ as Grier remakes the roster, so he isn't likely to be first out the door in his second year in SJ. But they will be bad and that could mean Grier looks for a good news story while he continues to make them worse so they get better quicker. Cronin - 100-1: Verbeek hires his guy. Have to think he sticks with him. Even Dave Lewis got a full year. I'll be surprised if it's not DJ Smith, but I'll be even more surprised if it's not Sullivan, Torts, or Bowness either. Or Carbery, but despite the odds I still think that one is more volatile. Someone's got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands!
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Post by sandogbrewin on Sept 27, 2023 18:12:49 GMT
I don't think Bowness is "always" ready to be fired when he has a good roster. The Islander team Mibury gave him was complete garbage. Sinden firing Bowness was dumb and Rick took the Bs, without Neely, farther than Sutter.
Feel like Bowness should not have taken an already sinking Jets ship. Unless management said they would keel him for the better rebuild.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 28, 2023 0:02:30 GMT
I don't think Bowness is "always" ready to be fired when he has a good roster. The Islander team Mibury gave him was complete garbage. Sinden firing Bowness was dumb and Rick took the Bs, without Neely, farther than Sutter. Feel like Bowness should not have taken an already sinking Jets ship. Unless management said they would keel him for the better rebuild. He is a short shelf guy now though like Gallant. Worked out i Dallas after he replaced Montgomery but then went sideways and now he's not on the same page as key players.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 28, 2023 11:59:32 GMT
Sportsbookboy betting odds for first coach to be fired. Montgomery - 100-1: You would think it should be higher, particularly because they may want to scapegoat him if they fall off more than they expect, but given the playoff failure last year, a slow enough start may see Jim gone, especially if they pull the trigger on a big trade first, and things don't improve. Cooper - 1000-1: Short of a Babcock like lapse in judgement, Coop is safe as houses. Keefe - 100-1: Just got a vote of confidence from his new boss, but in Toronto, that means very little. They paid Babcock a butt-tonne of cash not to coach for them. If they take a step back, Keefe could be a casualty quicker than you might think. <clip> <clip> <snip> <snip> Quinn - 50-1: Quinn has never made the playoffs as a head coach in the NHL, and he made the playoffs once as a pro coach, losing in the first round. He should be well-insulated by the turnover in SJ as Grier remakes the roster, so he isn't likely to be first out the door in his second year in SJ. But they will be bad and that could mean Grier looks for a good news story while he continues to make them worse so they get better quicker. Cronin - 100-1: Verbeek hires his guy. Have to think he sticks with him. Even Dave Lewis got a full year. I'll be surprised if it's not DJ Smith, but I'll be even more surprised if it's not Sullivan, Torts, or Bowness either. Or Carbery, but despite the odds I still think that one is more volatile. Someone's got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands! Surprisingly little time required for this one compared to some.
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Post by 50belowzero on Oct 31, 2023 12:55:17 GMT
Mike Sullivan - 15-1: Pitt will be in win now mode until Crosby retires. They added Karlsson. They added the Boy Who Shit the Bed in Toronto. Sullivan wasn't his choice, and he has zero connection to the Soo Greyhounds, which makes him instantly vulnerable. Pittsburgh missed the playoffs last year. If that looks like it might happen again, and there's a former Soo Greyhound available, I think Dumbass makes the move.
Have the odds narrowed a bit? I'd have to think so, last place in the East with 6 pts out of a possible 18 available. Last night were leading the Ducks in the 3rd and were on a 5 on 3 PP, gave up a shortie with 10 seconds to go, ugly.
*- Tristan Jarry blowing chunks hasn't helped.
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 31, 2023 19:31:15 GMT
Mike Sullivan - 15-1: Pitt will be in win now mode until Crosby retires. They added Karlsson. They added the Boy Who Shit the Bed in Toronto. Sullivan wasn't his choice, and he has zero connection to the Soo Greyhounds, which makes him instantly vulnerable. Pittsburgh missed the playoffs last year. If that looks like it might happen again, and there's a former Soo Greyhound available, I think Dumbass makes the move.
Have the odds narrowed a bit? I'd have to think so, last place in the East with 6 pts out of a possible 18 available. Last night were leading the Ducks in the 3rd and were on a 5 on 3 PP, gave up a shortie with 10 seconds to go, ugly.
*- Tristan Jarry blowing chunks hasn't helped.
Hmm. I will have to run the model.
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Post by bookboy007 on Oct 31, 2023 20:27:12 GMT
Mike Sullivan - 15-1: Pitt will be in win now mode until Crosby retires. They added Karlsson. They added the Boy Who Shit the Bed in Toronto. Sullivan wasn't his choice, and he has zero connection to the Soo Greyhounds, which makes him instantly vulnerable. Pittsburgh missed the playoffs last year. If that looks like it might happen again, and there's a former Soo Greyhound available, I think Dumbass makes the move.
Have the odds narrowed a bit? I'd have to think so, last place in the East with 6 pts out of a possible 18 available. Last night were leading the Ducks in the 3rd and were on a 5 on 3 PP, gave up a shortie with 10 seconds to go, ugly.
*- Tristan Jarry blowing chunks hasn't helped.
Sully came in at the third best odds to get the axe, and only slightly ahead of Torts and Carberry. DJ Smith was the overwhelming favourite. So what factors would make that change? Well, Smith may actually get a bit of a reprieve - deserved or not - for his handling of the Norris and Pinto situations. Norris was an enigma for weeks, and many speculated that he'd have to be put on LTIR so they could sign Pinto. The Senators may actually have been a better club without both players, but Smith bought a lot of time on Norris just by answering questions every day, and he didn't breathe a word of the Pinto situation even though he was once again a hanging coach without two of his top Cs. So the new management may actually like the cut of his jib better now. And they have the third best goal differential in the Atlantic, which suggests their record will recover. But this team has had terrible starts three years running and if they don't start winning more soon, ownership has to think that the performance hasn't changed. They're near the bottom of the East standings at .500. Injuries are killing them with two of their top 4 D out, and they still don't consistently get a save, but you have to wonder if they have Edmontinnitus - a ringing in your ears caused by the loud and repeated goal sirens that afflicts all goalies on a team with terrible team defense. And that is on the coach, generally, though it has to be on the players, too. But most of the young Senators have never had another coach and a players coach like Smith might not be the guy to get them over the discomfort of giving up some cookies for better results. Let's say the odds on Smith are now more like 7-1, though they will drop again quickly if things there don't change. Norris is getting a pass for being a defensive liability and a -4 in 5 games so far, and the injury/Pinto thing would make a firing now a cold move. But if Norris doesn't turn it around when the D come back, it's right back to close to even odds for Smitty. Berube also has the Blues at .500 and frankly he's making his management look stupid. They have decided this is Thomas and Kyrou's team, but those two have 2 goals and 8 points combined after 7 games. Acquisition Kevin Hayes? 0-2-2. No one on their once-vaunted D has more than 1 point. Krug and Leddy, the two PMD, are a combined 0-1-1 and -2. And none of this can be blamed on their psycho goalie who has excellent numbers so far, as does his backup with the great name of HoFer. Berube's odds have to be getting worse in part because everything the Blues have done since winning the Cup has been to pivot away from the type game Berube coached to a Cup. They have the same record; let's give Smith and Berube the same odds. 7-1. Torts is sure happy to have two of his best forwards back in Atkinson and Couturier. Both have 8 points in 9 games. As a result, too, Konecny is rejuvenated. Carter Hart is playing like an NHL goalie again. The Flyers have been more competitive. But...they're also .500. Moral victories rarely fly in Philly, and so there's probably not much value to just making people feel better about the state of the team. I think Tortorella is still holding steady at 20-1. Carberry remains my wildcard among the contenders. For a while, you had to wonder if they were going to admit they made mistake gambling on a rookie coach before too much damage was done - Ovechkin not getting shots on net? What kind of system are you playing at? But the Caps are a loser point above .500 now and so have the hope of the team that thinks they're better but haven't played to their potential. Question is how they interpret that. Are they playing below potential because they haven't adjusted to Carberry's system or because they will never win playing Carberry's system? Ovechkin lead them in points, but only has 2 goals, and Backstrom and Oshie are liabilities - 2 assists between them after 8 games and a combined -7. Ugly. Carberry also had to know it was expected that he would get Kuz going again, and Mantha, and both are indifferent out there. I think, like Torts, nothing has really changed in the first 10 games. 20-1. Which leaves Sully. Worst team in the East. Malkin, Crosby, Guentzel, Rust, Smith all producing about what you would expect, but the first three are all minus players, which you don't expect. Karlsson looks like pre-2022-23 SJ Karlsson. 0.7 points per game Karlsson, not 100 point Karlsson. Jarry has awful numbers. That doesn't help. But you have to wonder if the coach who won back to back Cups playing a game based on "stupid speed" is a terrible fit with a team with a bunch of greybeards as their key players. 13 players over 30 on that roster and Guentzel is 29. And the Boy Who Didn't Die thought this was a contender that just needed that one big addition to put them over the top! And he traded them a first round pick. SJ is awful and none of Ruutta, Hoffman, or Granlund is helping them at all, so they are the likely candidate to draft first overall, but the Pens could be in the top 5, too, and that would be a steep price to pay for the right to pay Karlsson's crazy salary for another half decade of losing. I would say he's got to be getting a lot warmer. Let's call it a dead heat with Smith right now at 7-1 and maybe only because two rings buys you something.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Oct 31, 2023 22:38:26 GMT
Sportsbookboy betting odds for first coach to be fired. Montgomery - 100-1: You would think it should be higher, particularly because they may want to scapegoat him if they fall off more than they expect, but given the playoff failure last year, a slow enough start may see Jim gone, especially if they pull the trigger on a big trade first, and things don't improve. Cooper - 1000-1: Short of a Babcock like lapse in judgement, Coop is safe as houses. Keefe - 100-1: Just got a vote of confidence from his new boss, but in Toronto, that means very little. They paid Babcock a butt-tonne of cash not to coach for them. If they take a step back, Keefe could be a casualty quicker than you might think. <clip> <clip> <snip> <snip> Quinn - 50-1: Quinn has never made the playoffs as a head coach in the NHL, and he made the playoffs once as a pro coach, losing in the first round. He should be well-insulated by the turnover in SJ as Grier remakes the roster, so he isn't likely to be first out the door in his second year in SJ. But they will be bad and that could mean Grier looks for a good news story while he continues to make them worse so they get better quicker. Cronin - 100-1: Verbeek hires his guy. Have to think he sticks with him. Even Dave Lewis got a full year. I'll be surprised if it's not DJ Smith, but I'll be even more surprised if it's not Sullivan, Torts, or Bowness either. Or Carbery, but despite the odds I still think that one is more volatile. Someone's got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands! You've met Book before right ?
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Post by kelvana33 on Nov 4, 2023 0:55:26 GMT
I will take Granato getting the axe in Buffalo as the first to go.
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 5, 2023 1:31:09 GMT
Maybe Woodchuck in Edmonton, he doesn't seem to have any answers but his team isn't helping matters.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2023 13:22:30 GMT
Yeah, the preseason calculus on both Woodcroft and Granati is out the freaking window. Wow. I think both guys have to behind DJ Smith still, though. The Oilers are just awful, but so much of that is goaltending, and eventually the Oilers have to realize that while you can't fire all the players, if the players are the problem it doesn't help to change the coach. That might give Woodcroft some protection. Granato also has goaltending issues with Levi being out. UkkaPekkaLukkonenen has been better lately, so I can see them giving Granato time. Also hasn't been getting the offense he expecta from his top guys.
Smith has to be hanging by a hair. Over the last 5 seasons, the Senators have been terrible to start every season. 5-14-1, 4-15-1, 7-12-1. They're 4-6-0 right now. In most of those seasons, they were in a similar boat after 10, but the next 10 basically tanked them. With everything going on with that club - and they cannot stay out of the news for the wrong reasons - they have to think this is all happening again. I just don't think Smith survives unless they decide to let him ride until they hire a new GM rather than appoint a lame duck interim coach.
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 5, 2023 13:36:02 GMT
Yeah, the preseason calculus on both Woodcroft and Granati is out the freaking window. Wow. I think both guys have to behind DJ Smith still, though. The Oilers are just awful, but so much of that is goaltending, and eventually the Oilers have to realize that while you can't fire all the players, if the players are the problem it doesn't help to change the coach. That might give Woodcroft some protection. Granato also has goaltending issues with Levi being out. UkkaPekkaLukkonenen has been better lately, so I can see them giving Granato time. Also hasn't been getting the offense he expecta from his top guys. Smith has to be hanging by a hair. Over the last 5 seasons, the Senators have been terrible to start every season. 5-14-1, 4-15-1, 7-12-1. They're 4-6-0 right now. In most of those seasons, they were in a similar boat after 10, but the next 10 basically tanked them. With everything going on with that club - and they cannot stay out of the news for the wrong reasons - they have to think this is all happening again. I just don't think Smith survives unless they decide to let him ride until they hire a new GM rather than appoint a lame duck interim coach. You bet it is and why Holland signed Campbell to a long term deal is mind boggling but it's the Oilers. The other thing that should be mentioned again is Holland handing out that anchor contract for Darnell Nurse who is a $ 5m dressed up as a $9m, cue Trooper please. I mean Ryan O'Reilly scored 2 gls last night right in the goalies crease with Nurse all over him and ROR out muscled him both times, sad. The talking heads who had picked a Oil/LeRf Cup final in their preseason predictions look like homers, did they give any real thought or common sense to them? Pandering to their fanbases.
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 5, 2023 13:36:52 GMT
With Dorian gone and the Sens getting booed off the ice last night i think DJ could be on his way out or will be soon.
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Post by bookboy007 on Nov 5, 2023 15:54:18 GMT
Yeah, the preseason calculus on both Woodcroft and Granati is out the freaking window. Wow. I think both guys have to behind DJ Smith still, though. The Oilers are just awful, but so much of that is goaltending, and eventually the Oilers have to realize that while you can't fire all the players, if the players are the problem it doesn't help to change the coach. That might give Woodcroft some protection. Granato also has goaltending issues with Levi being out. UkkaPekkaLukkonenen has been better lately, so I can see them giving Granato time. Also hasn't been getting the offense he expecta from his top guys. Smith has to be hanging by a hair. Over the last 5 seasons, the Senators have been terrible to start every season. 5-14-1, 4-15-1, 7-12-1. They're 4-6-0 right now. In most of those seasons, they were in a similar boat after 10, but the next 10 basically tanked them. With everything going on with that club - and they cannot stay out of the news for the wrong reasons - they have to think this is all happening again. I just don't think Smith survives unless they decide to let him ride until they hire a new GM rather than appoint a lame duck interim coach. You bet it is and why Holland signed Campbell to a long term deal is mind boggling but it's the Oilers. The other thing that should be mentioned again is Holland handing out that anchor contract for Darnell Nurse who is a $ 5m dressed up as a $9m, cue Trooper please. I mean Ryan O'Reilly scored 2 gls last night right in the goalies crease with Nurse all over him and ROR out muscled him both times, sad. The talking heads who had picked a Oil/LeRf Cup final in their preseason predictions look like homers, did they give any real thought or common sense to them? Pandering to their fanbases.
The starfucker effect in hockey media is real. They starfucked JTS in SJ for years without ever addressing the issues that team had winning in the playoffs. Same with Lundqvist and the Rangers. Now it's Matthews v McDavid that everyone in the Toronto Mothership wants. But neither guy has shown he can carry a team throughbthe llayoffs and both teams are constructed so as to make it a necessity for their big guns to be the engine at all times.
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 6, 2023 15:00:43 GMT
Media from Edmonton reporting if the Oil don't do well on the 3 game road trip they are about to embark on Woodchuck could get the axe. One of the games is against the Sharts so that should be one win and the others are against the Nucks & Kraken. Would the Oil have to win 2 out of 3 to save their coaches job or a sweep? We'll see, but if they lose to San Jose, oh boy......
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 28, 2023 0:22:14 GMT
40-1 for Evason eh'? I coulda made a haul, he was on shakey footing after such a bad start. The thing that's surprising is Lex luthor is back coaching, not bad for a guy who can't seem to coach.
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