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Post by Wheatskins on May 1, 2023 4:08:57 GMT
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Post by The OC on May 1, 2023 4:15:37 GMT
He did the same thing last year. And the previous year.
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Post by Wheatskins on May 1, 2023 4:21:20 GMT
He did the same thing last year. And the previous year. There were no tears those years.
This is different.
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Post by stevegm on May 1, 2023 4:39:46 GMT
He did the same thing last year. And the previous year. There were no tears those years.
This is different.
regardless of your intent...wouldn't you be bawlin after that
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Post by Fletcher on May 1, 2023 4:59:50 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire.
And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page.
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Post by dannycater on May 1, 2023 5:01:43 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Yes, it's time...great and storied career.
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Post by dannycater on May 1, 2023 5:13:01 GMT
One more thing, One window closed tonight, but another window will open next season. Go B's! Wait til next year! *bad news B's*
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Post by mdsizzle on May 1, 2023 10:50:59 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Agreed. For all those reasons, plus some stats on wins vs losses when he plays.... For whatever reasons may play part in those numbers.
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Post by moognoates on May 1, 2023 11:33:12 GMT
Agree, I won't be upset if he comes back next year but I'm ready to move on. This core has had many chances and they can't get it done.
Bergeron's body cannot hold up to an entire season and a playoff run. Unfortunately he's become unreliable in the playoffs. No fault of his own, he's given everything but it's time. Love ya Bergy!
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Post by mdsizzle on May 1, 2023 12:09:51 GMT
Agree, I won't be upset if he comes back next year but I'm ready to move on. This core has had many chances and they can't get it done. Bergeron's body cannot hold up to an entire season and a playoff run. Unfortunately he's become unreliable in the playoffs. No fault of his own, he's given everything but it's time. Love ya Bergy! Been a trend for a decade now. Get eliminated and find out what injuries he's been playing through. I don't know the line where a star player playing injured actually hurts the the team... But it is a thing and could be a factor.. Definitely debatable.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 1, 2023 12:17:38 GMT
One more thing, One window closed tonight, but another window will open next season. Go B's! Wait til next year! *bad news B's* Ya, but did it have to be closed while our fingers were still on the ledge…. Ouch!!!!
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Post by 50belowzero on May 1, 2023 13:06:30 GMT
For sure Bergeron has the skills to play next season but it's readily apparent that his body can't withstand an 82 game regular season and playoffs. He's been injured before or during every playoffs the last few yrs. He has had a great and HHOF worthy career and a SC, retirement isn't a bad thing, he can still be involved in the game in some capacity.
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Post by Fletcher on May 1, 2023 13:09:57 GMT
I think the sad thing this morning, is the notion that the Bruin core of this era (Bergeron, Chara, Rask, Krejci, Marchand, McAvoy) could truthfully be considered underachievers. One lonely Cup in 2011 for a core that will have multiple Hall of Famers and jerseys hung in the rafters.
Since 2000: The Elias-Rafalski led Devils have 2 Cups The Datsyuk-Lidstrom led Red Wings have 2 Cups The Kopitar-Doughty led Kings have 2 Cups The Crosby-Malkin led Penguins have 3 Cups The Toews-Kane led Blackhawks have 3 Cups The Stamkos-Hedman led Bolts have 2 Cups
We could certainly argue that the Bruins have had one of the greatest core groups in the past 25 years, but...the trophies didn't really come along. Unfortunately, this group has made a habit of losing to lesser opponents in the playoffs.
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Post by stevegm on May 1, 2023 13:14:50 GMT
I think any notion that 37 retiring...is a good thing...is the over the top knee jerk reaction, I've been speaking to. He's still a very effective player. If he'd agree to a team friendly deal, it would be a blessing to have him back.
Injuries, smigeries. They happen. They can't be timed and they can't be avoided. Look at Carlo for cripes sake.
These guys didn't fold up because they weren't good enough. Roster construction was great. They just shit themselves
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Post by stevegm on May 1, 2023 13:20:42 GMT
I think the sad thing this morning, is the notion that the Bruin core of this era (Bergeron, Chara, Rask, Krejci, Marchand, McAvoy) could truthfully be considered underachievers. One lonely Cup in 2011 for a core that will have multiple Hall of Famers and jerseys hung in the rafters. Since 2000: The Elias-Rafalski led Devils have 2 Cups The Datsyuk-Lidstrom led Red Wings have 2 Cups The Kopitar-Doughty led Kings have 2 Cups The Crosby-Malkin led Penguins have 3 Cups The Toews-Kane led Blackhawks have 3 Cups The Stamkos-Hedman led Bolts have 2 Cups We could certainly argue that the Bruins have had one of the greatest core groups in the past 25 years, but...the trophies didn't really come along. Unfortunately, this group has made a habit of losing to lesser opponents in the playoffs. unfortunately yes. They've had the greatest core for the longest too, which even casts a poorer light. Bergeron, Marchand, DK were achieving in 23 as they were in 2010.
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Post by glasgowguy on May 1, 2023 13:24:01 GMT
I think the sad thing this morning, is the notion that the Bruin core of this era (Bergeron, Chara, Rask, Krejci, Marchand, McAvoy) could truthfully be considered underachievers. One lonely Cup in 2011 for a core that will have multiple Hall of Famers and jerseys hung in the rafters. Since 2000: The Elias-Rafalski led Devils have 2 Cups The Datsyuk-Lidstrom led Red Wings have 2 Cups The Kopitar-Doughty led Kings have 2 Cups The Crosby-Malkin led Penguins have 3 Cups The Toews-Kane led Blackhawks have 3 Cups The Stamkos-Hedman led Bolts have 2 Cups We could certainly argue that the Bruins have had one of the greatest core groups in the past 25 years, but...the trophies didn't really come along. Unfortunately, this group has made a habit of losing to lesser opponents in the playoffs.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 1, 2023 13:26:06 GMT
I think the sad thing this morning, is the notion that the Bruin core of this era (Bergeron, Chara, Rask, Krejci, Marchand, McAvoy) could truthfully be considered underachievers. One lonely Cup in 2011 for a core that will have multiple Hall of Famers and jerseys hung in the rafters. Since 2000: The Elias-Rafalski led Devils have 2 Cups The Datsyuk-Lidstrom led Red Wings have 2 Cups The Kopitar-Doughty led Kings have 2 Cups The Crosby-Malkin led Penguins have 3 Cups The Toews-Kane led Blackhawks have 3 Cups The Stamkos-Hedman led Bolts have 2 Cups We could certainly argue that the Bruins have had one of the greatest core groups in the past 25 years, but...the trophies didn't really come along. Unfortunately, this group has made a habit of losing to lesser opponents in the playoffs. Yep, since i've been a fan i've sat through many many post season collapses, upsets to lower seeded teams, choke jobs and much more . It's hard to win a Cup, we can all agree on that but there have been alot of great B's teams that have had great regular seasons only to fall short of the ultimate prize. When a team goes 30 to 40 years between Cup wins with the teams they have had it defies explanation, especially when you see other franchises who have won more. For sure some of those other teams had a superstar or two but mostly they delivered when it counted most, the Bruins teams not so much.
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Post by glasgowguy on May 1, 2023 13:31:28 GMT
That is true.
But this current group as it turns out was built and coached for regular season success. Play offs is a different animal. They way the Bruins D played 1 thru 7 ....horrible. No chance they could they ever have won 4 rounds. McCavoy 9.5 Mill. ha ! And we thought Nurse was over paid.
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Post by kelvana33 on May 1, 2023 14:08:43 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Agreed, sad it will end this way, but, if they advanced how effective would him and Krejci have even been 2 games from now. Both were hurt to begin with.
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Post by umainebruinsfan on May 1, 2023 14:14:36 GMT
If Bergeron wants to come back, I'm sure he will take a lower base salary which will again help the team. If he retires, it will hurt the team simply because we won't be able to afford a #1 C given our cap situation. What is the feeling of the board? Are we good with Zacha and Coyle being the top 2 C on the team? I think they both had very good seasons, but it will definitely hurt our depth, and who is the 3C in that scenario? Fredrick can play C but he seems more like a 4th line guy to me who is good enough to play the wing on the 3rd line when needed.
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Post by dannycater on May 1, 2023 14:18:45 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Agreed, sad it will end this way, but, if they advanced how effective would him and Krejci have even been 2 games from now. Both were hurt to begin with. You keep bombing on Krejci, which is mind boggling. The guy played his ass off in game 7, 3-point game, scores the 1st goal, starts the 2nd and 3rd goals...I'm not sure how effective he would be 2 games from now? Really?...And hey guys, DK also is probably ending his career, it's not just Bergeron who is retiring likely. Love 37, but he had a herniated disc and it showed. All the more reason he never should have been rushed back for this series...AT ALL..IT KILLED THE TEAM'S MOJO up 3-1. Changed the way some of the players in the room played from that point especially seem to affect 18 who was scuffling at times at winger after playing a lot at center for most of the last part of the season into the playoffs....I'll take an injured DK performing at SUPERIOR LEVELS in a game 7 over what we saw from the Bopsy Softy Twins--27 and 73.
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Post by kelvana33 on May 1, 2023 14:37:27 GMT
Agreed, sad it will end this way, but, if they advanced how effective would him and Krejci have even been 2 games from now. Both were hurt to begin with. You keep bombing on Krejci, which is mind boggling. The guy played his ass off in game 7, 3-point game, scores the 1st goal, starts the 2nd and 3rd goals...I'm not sure how effective he would be 2 games from now? Really?...And hey guys, DK also is probably ending his career, it's not just Bergeron who is retiring likely. Love 37, but he had a herniated disc and it showed. All the more reason he never should have been rushed back for this series...AT ALL..IT KILLED THE TEAM'S MOJO up 3-1. Changed the way some of the players in the room played from that point especially seem to affect 18 who was scuffling at times at winger after playing a lot at center for most of the last part of the season into the playoffs....I'll take an injured DK performing at SUPERIOR LEVELS in a game 7 over what we saw from the Bopsy Softy Twins--27 and 73. I'm not bombing on him or doubting his effort. I'm saying he's hurt, and it has to be pretty bad since he took only 4 face offs last night. Bergeron like you said was hurt. He took 23 face offs.
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Post by stevegm on May 1, 2023 14:44:01 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Agreed, sad it will end this way, but, if they advanced how effective would him and Krejci have even been 2 games from now. Both were hurt to begin with. they'd a been fine. or they wouldn't have. fact is, they're still 2 of the best players on the team. no way it's a positive... not having them. may want to consider this. who holds the record, for most game 7 assists in NHL history?
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Post by dannycater on May 1, 2023 14:48:56 GMT
You keep bombing on Krejci, which is mind boggling. The guy played his ass off in game 7, 3-point game, scores the 1st goal, starts the 2nd and 3rd goals...I'm not sure how effective he would be 2 games from now? Really?...And hey guys, DK also is probably ending his career, it's not just Bergeron who is retiring likely. Love 37, but he had a herniated disc and it showed. All the more reason he never should have been rushed back for this series...AT ALL..IT KILLED THE TEAM'S MOJO up 3-1. Changed the way some of the players in the room played from that point especially seem to affect 18 who was scuffling at times at winger after playing a lot at center for most of the last part of the season into the playoffs....I'll take an injured DK performing at SUPERIOR LEVELS in a game 7 over what we saw from the Bopsy Softy Twins--27 and 73. I'm not bombing on him or doubting his effort. I'm saying he's hurt, and it has to be pretty bad since he took only 4 face offs last night. Bergeron like you said was hurt. He took 23 face offs. I don't doubt it..upper body injury likely that affected his ability to go hard at circle. But still helluva finish for him. As for Bergie, the guy is a warrior and I've said my peace about him being rushed back. It's like first the Bell Centre incident (sad with family suite watching), then missing, then rushing back for game 5 even though there was ZERO SENSE OF URGENCY to bring him back into lineup up 3-1 in games. It backfired badly in last few weeks of #37 career.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 1, 2023 15:59:47 GMT
I think he should retire. That is no disrespect in any way, but he's had a ton of injuries, a great career, and could still be a family fan before it's too late. I'd retire. And frankly, it's probably best for the Bruins too. Some very good discussion on this in the Game 7 thread, but it is time to turn the page. Agreed, sad it will end this way, but, if they advanced how effective would him and Krejci have even been 2 games from now. Both were hurt to begin with. Has to be devastating to watch your team blow a 3-1 series lead and then lose it in ot after leading late in the game…. Had it been later in the playoffs, maybe Bergy decides to come back for one last kick at the cup…. Not after this and two straight one and gone…. I say his decision comes once Lord Stanley is hoisted in order to give Donnie time to plan for next season….
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