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Post by fiberglassmask on Jan 14, 2024 7:53:28 GMT
 Sophia said it, CMc said it - two points tonight!I took you on in the Sophia thread, Hulot! |
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jan 14, 2024 13:52:05 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. All those who didn’t want Bertuzzi back raise your hands…. If I’m bringing Van Winkle back it’s on a one-year deal again…. And that’ll be based on what he does come playoff time…. |
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 14, 2024 15:00:38 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. All those who didn’t want Bertuzzi back raise your hands…. If I’m bringing Van Winkle back it’s on a one-year deal again…. And that’ll be based on what he does come playoff time….
JVR has given the B's 27 points in 38 games and a plus 3, at 13:44 minutes of ice time on average. His salary is $1 mill for this season.
(Bertuzzi has 18 points in 40 games, plus 7, 15:50 min ice time, for $5.25 mill this season.)
Not good enough for a new contract? Yeah, let's pretend to be smart & wait until playoff time. And if he's really good in the postseason, his next salary will be at least twice as much as what you could get him for now.
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 14, 2024 15:07:21 GMT
The vowel Danny, the vowel! yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesss? Much better! |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 14, 2024 15:13:06 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 14, 2024 15:15:50 GMT
See, easy peasy. Fuck you bLOSERs. True, the line time he stands on his head... In combination of the the B's being out played of course... But I did enjoy all the controversy he brought the team by being stupid.. The anti-Tuuk. At least tuuk waited for the end of the game to flip out. |
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jan 14, 2024 15:25:15 GMT
All those who didn’t want Bertuzzi back raise your hands…. If I’m bringing Van Winkle back it’s on a one-year deal again…. And that’ll be based on what he does come playoff time….
JVR has given the B's 27 points in 38 games and a plus 3, at 13:44 minutes of ice time on average. His salary is $1 mill for this season.
(Bertuzzi has 18 points in 40 games, plus 7, 15:50 min ice time, for $5.25 mill this season.)
Not good enough for a new contract? Yeah, let's pretend to be smart & wait until playoff time. And if he's really good in the postseason, his next salary will be at least twice as much as what you could get him for now.
Bertuzzi right now would look bad even making the league minimum…. As for Van Winkle, I’ll take my chances and keep my cheque book in the drawer for now…. Keep him hungry and hope he can pot some goals too come the Spring…. |
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Post by dannycater on Jan 14, 2024 15:33:05 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. not a 1-trick pony due to super smart passing, he is effective on PP, and he comes through in that dirty area where the B's tried to force-feed different people--like Nick Ritchie (who wasn't bad there and was a goon---and then goons it up in an overseas league), Taylor Hall (okay, but not his game to do that), DeBrusk for a while (not his style), Backes (awful), Backus (great voice, and always talking about Lovie), and others...and with that said, Bertuzzi works really well with 88, 63, and any skill player--and probably would even get points on the same PP with JVR. But Bertuzzi is over-priced, and has been to me a huge disappointment for Loafs when you look at the line he is....how does he not collect a point a game with his skill?? Enigma. Sizz, I love ya buddy and you are a great Fantasy player, but I think your assessment on Carlo is Fantasy related (although plus 15)...I think he's been the team's best defensive d man, especially on the PK, all season up to getting hurt. His role is not offense, and he's never been a "checker" but he can use his size and does use his size to block, deflect and control pucks in the d-zone--and he's a far better defensive dman than Lindholm, who was signed I thought to help with offense...now he's just awful on special teams, but weirdly a Carlo clone on 5-on-5 defense. JVR has been sensational and you have to really watch his passing. As for playing him 5 on 5 regularly--tougher because he is slow and that presents some liabilities...and still since he gives you great special teams PP work and in situations where the B's need a goal in front---he is huge asset and just be careful who he lines up with on 5 on 5 shifts only. |
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 14, 2024 16:25:08 GMT
I wanted Bertuzzi back, but not at the price he was asking.
JVR has given the B's 27 points in 38 games and a plus 3, at 13:44 minutes of ice time on average. His salary is $1 mill for this season.
(Bertuzzi has 18 points in 40 games, plus 7, 15:50 min ice time, for $5.25 mill this season.)
Not good enough for a new contract? Yeah, let's pretend to be smart & wait until playoff time. And if he's really good in the postseason, his next salary will be at least twice as much as what you could get him for now.
Bertuzzi right now would look bad even making the league minimum…. As for Van Winkle, I’ll take my chances and keep my cheque book in the drawer for now…. Keep him hungry and hope he can pot some goals too come the Spring…. |
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 14, 2024 16:27:18 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. Superb passer? Oh yes, particularly in the B's own end, setting up the other team with glorious scoring chances... JVR has something which Bertuzzi will not have in a thousand years: hockey smarts.
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Post by The OC on Jan 14, 2024 16:47:37 GMT
Didn’t watch the game so tried to learn what happened through the game day thread without looking at the score or highlights. Did not disappoint! All the ups and downs and drama were captured right here!
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Post by islamorada on Jan 14, 2024 20:15:42 GMT
Didn’t watch the game so tried to learn what happened through the game day thread without looking at the score or highlights. Did not disappoint! All the ups and downs and drama were captured right here! Sophia induced? |
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 14, 2024 23:26:42 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. Here's a surprise - I disagree with your assessment of JVR. He's made a lot of good plays passing the puck, managing it in the O zone, etc. He lacks the quickness to be good defensively, but he doesn't make too many high risk plays, and he has out up two fewer points at ES than Marchand, so he's also more than a net front PP dink. He's not great, but the price is right for what he has brought. Said it many times before - Bert's small sample size was a trap and the Bruins were smart to walk. 4 ES points. Put up a lot of his points playing with Pastrnak. What was Cassidy's line? Everybody something something Pastrnak? And he made more bad plays than "the turnover". Bertuzzi had 2-1-3 in game six and still ended up -3. He had the one PPG in game 7 and finshed -1. He got hot. He played in some primo situations. I wouldn't gambke a big salary on him being able to do it for a long playoff. |
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Post by bookboy007 on Jan 14, 2024 23:28:05 GMT
I wanted Bertuzzi back, but not at the price he was asking.
JVR has given the B's 27 points in 38 games and a plus 3, at 13:44 minutes of ice time on average. His salary is $1 mill for this season.
(Bertuzzi has 18 points in 40 games, plus 7, 15:50 min ice time, for $5.25 mill this season.)
Not good enough for a new contract? Yeah, let's pretend to be smart & wait until playoff time. And if he's really good in the postseason, his next salary will be at least twice as much as what you could get him for now.
Bertuzzi right now would look bad even making the league minimum…. As for Van Winkle, I’ll take my chances and keep my cheque book in the drawer for now…. Keep him hungry and hope he can pot some goals too come the Spring…. Yeah, with the Cap going up, I'd think you want to upgrade if you can. |
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Post by The OC on Jan 15, 2024 1:58:10 GMT
Didn’t watch the game so tried to learn what happened through the game day thread without looking at the score or highlights. Did not disappoint! All the ups and downs and drama were captured right here! Sophia induced? Mostly riding Danny's emotional roller coaster. |
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Post by 50belowzero on Jan 15, 2024 3:32:08 GMT
I'd give JVR at least a two-year contract right now. A million times more bang for the buck than Bertuzzi. Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. He seemed to for a few games in the playoffs but what you see now is more the norm, he's an overpaid dud. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 15, 2024 5:12:26 GMT
Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. He seemed to for a few games in the playoffs but what you see now is more the norm, he's an overpaid dud. He didn't "seem" to... He did... And at the most important time of the year. I'll take that. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 15, 2024 5:21:26 GMT
Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. Here's a surprise - I disagree with your assessment of JVR. He's made a lot of good plays passing the puck, managing it in the O zone, etc. He lacks the quickness to be good defensively, but he doesn't make too many high risk plays, and he has out up two fewer points at ES than Marchand, so he's also more than a net front PP dink. He's not great, but the price is right for what he has brought. Said it many times before - Bert's small sample size was a trap and the Bruins were smart to walk. 4 ES points. Put up a lot of his points playing with Pastrnak. What was Cassidy's line? Everybody something something Pastrnak? And he made more bad plays than "the turnover". Bertuzzi had 2-1-3 in game six and still ended up -3. He had the one PPG in game 7 and finshed -1. He got hot. He played in some primo situations. I wouldn't gambke a big salary on him being able to do it for a long playoff. Imagine that, he was a minus player on a team that absolutely sucked ass in their own end. Primo situations?? I remember him setting up players left and right with excellent playmaking. He was the best player on a team that choked historical and absolute sucked ass... To say, "well I bet he couldn't do it longer" is dumb... The rest of the team couldn't even do it period. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 15, 2024 5:25:25 GMT
Really?? I know it took a while for him to get going, but he was the best player in the playoffs even with the dumb giveaway. Bert could skate, hustle, create plays, superb passer, checked, back-checked, annoyed people (not just Book) Jvr seems is a one trick pony... Sit in front of the net and see what he can find. Good size but like Carlo doesn't use it to his advantage like he used to.. Largley because he's past his prime, not just a Carlo pussy mindset where he checks as often as he scores. Superb passer? Oh yes, particularly in the B's own end, setting up the other team with glorious scoring chances... JVR has something which Bertuzzi will not have in a thousand years: hockey smarts.
I'm sure he's very smart, just not super capable at this point in his career. As long as he doesn't need to hustle, play D or be physically he's OK. |
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 15, 2024 5:31:09 GMT
Superb passer? Oh yes, particularly in the B's own end, setting up the other team with glorious scoring chances... JVR has something which Bertuzzi will not have in a thousand years: hockey smarts.
I'm sure he's very smart, just not super capable at this point in his career. As long as he doesn't need to hustle, play D or be physically he's OK.
But anyway, "no hustle, no D, not physical", that sounds more like the book on our old friend Loui MercenEriksson.
In regards to JVR, please tell me what broadcasts of the games you were watching. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 15, 2024 5:41:16 GMT
I'm sure he's very smart, just not super capable at this point in his career. As long as he doesn't need to hustle, play D or be physically he's OK.
But anyway, "no hustle, no D, not physical", that sounds more like the book on our old friend Loui MercenEriksson.
In regards to JVR, please tell me what broadcasts of the games you were watching.All of em. Even Book admitted he's too slow to be good defensively. He's fine for a 1m 1 year bridge player. |
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Post by mdsizzle on Jan 15, 2024 6:08:23 GMT
I'm sure he's very smart, just not super capable at this point in his career. As long as he doesn't need to hustle, play D or be physically he's OK.
But anyway, "no hustle, no D, not physical", that sounds more like the book on our old friend Loui MercenEriksson.
In regards to JVR, please tell me what broadcasts of the games you were watching.Adding on here.. How is he galacticlly effective? Seems like some crazy high praise, so what am I missing? He doesn't hit, doesn't block shots and has 2 even strength goal. He sits in front of the net on the PP got 5 goals and 11 assist. 9 assists even strength. Seems a pretty far cry from what Bert did in the playoffs. Jvr cracked 20 goals once in the past 5 years, oddly enough the same year he was a dask 33! Not exactly a complete player even in his prime. And he's not getting better. He's a warm body for 1M that can put up some points on a PP. Oh, and he's below average at the dot too. |
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Post by MrHulot on Jan 15, 2024 13:42:50 GMT
Here's a surprise - I disagree with your assessment of JVR. He's made a lot of good plays passing the puck, managing it in the O zone, etc. He lacks the quickness to be good defensively, but he doesn't make too many high risk plays, and he has out up two fewer points at ES than Marchand, so he's also more than a net front PP dink. He's not great, but the price is right for what he has brought. Said it many times before - Bert's small sample size was a trap and the Bruins were smart to walk. 4 ES points. Put up a lot of his points playing with Pastrnak. What was Cassidy's line? Everybody something something Pastrnak? And he made more bad plays than "the turnover". Bertuzzi had 2-1-3 in game six and still ended up -3. He had the one PPG in game 7 and finshed -1. He got hot. He played in some primo situations. I wouldn't gambke a big salary on him being able to do it for a long playoff. Imagine that, he was a minus player on a team that absolutely sucked ass in their own end. Primo situations?? I remember him setting up players left and right with excellent playmaking. He was the best player on a team that choked historical and absolute sucked ass... To say, "well I bet he couldn't do it longer" is dumb... The rest of the team couldn't even do it period. |
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Post by dannycater on Jan 15, 2024 13:47:06 GMT
Imagine that, he was a minus player on a team that absolutely sucked ass in their own end. Primo situations?? I remember him setting up players left and right with excellent playmaking. He was the best player on a team that choked historical and absolute sucked ass... To say, "well I bet he couldn't do it longer" is dumb... The rest of the team couldn't even do it period. The team was in morgue state before DK came to the rescue, only to have the B's hand 46 and 37 a final punch in the gut in their final NHL game.  |
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Post by dannycater on Jan 15, 2024 13:50:17 GMT
Mostly riding Danny's emotional roller coaster. Thank you, I'm usually dark on Mondays, but alas we have a game today too. B's fandom is a tough job, especially in overtime. |
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