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Post by jmwalters on Feb 16, 2024 3:14:34 GMT
Completely agree. Ride it out with what is there and clean out the dead wood (there is a fair bit) in the off season. There is no magic bullet this year. Not that i can see. Let's say Sweeney is able to bring in Hanifan and a C of some type, is that enough to go on a run? Everything would have to go right, like a favorable 1st round matchup, favorites getting upset and hot goaltending, plus no injuries. That happened in 2019 and they still blew it, i don't see lady luck shining down that much and to that degree, but i'm a glass half full guy, haha! Yep, and you know it’s fine. Can’t contend every year. One guy I am officially done with is Forbert. 3mill for a third pairing D that can’t stay healthy, has no O ability, and doesn’t use his size in any consistent manner. No thanks.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 16, 2024 3:15:47 GMT
B's PP is stone cold keep missin', oh well, time to call up Lysell, nuthin' to lose. The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. It wouldn't hurt to give him a shot, even 2 or 3 games, you never know.
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Post by jmwalters on Feb 16, 2024 3:16:33 GMT
B's PP is stone cold keep missin', oh well, time to call up Lysell, nuthin' to lose. The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. Richard’s play (or lack thereof) suggests otherwise. He has no reason to be in the bigs on a playoff team.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 16, 2024 3:20:09 GMT
Not that i can see. Let's say Sweeney is able to bring in Hanifan and a C of some type, is that enough to go on a run? Everything would have to go right, like a favorable 1st round matchup, favorites getting upset and hot goaltending, plus no injuries. That happened in 2019 and they still blew it, i don't see lady luck shining down that much and to that degree, but i'm a glass half full guy, haha! Yep, and you know it’s fine. Can’t contend every year. One guy I am officially done with is Forbert. 3mill for a third pairing D that can’t stay healthy, has no O ability, and doesn’t use his size in any consistent manner. No thanks. Yes, i was not of the opinion that the B's were Cup contenders coming into this season, not at all. I am pleasantly surprised at what they've accomplished so far this season with what their lineup is every night, sort of like Marchand, Pasta & McAvoy is this B's threesome of Neely, Oates & Bourque. The old saying of get in and anything can happen is all we got unless a few changes are made.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 16, 2024 3:22:25 GMT
The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. Richard’s play (or lack thereof) suggests otherwise. He has no reason to be in the bigs on a playoff team. I think Sweeney calls the P-Bruins coach and asks which guy is playing well and that's who gets sent up. I mean with Beecher's stats in Providence since he got sent down , well they're not eye popping, so he won't be much help.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Feb 16, 2024 3:27:25 GMT
I just don't know...I can count the empty chances for, I see the scoring chances(goals) against...hit goal posts, missed wide open nets, lethargic no pressure forchecking...bad breaks with ruts in the ice, telegraphed passing, passing into heavy traffic expecting results, penalties resulting from laziness in the O-zone, goals allowed in the last minute of the period/game... I see all of this and I don't see how it can be fixed this year with the personnel the Bruins have in Boston & Providence. What do you think Donny sees? Pretty sure Cam sees everything. Not a fun time being a Bruins fan in our household these days... I would consider riding it out, no cap space so any moves will have to be very minor. The only trade chips are either goalie and DeBrusk, Gryz and some Providence prospects. There are a lot of deep teams that are Cup favorites that i can't see the B's beating over a 7 game series for 4 straight series. I think we all knew that coming in and being 2nd OA in the league at this point in time is very surprising if we're being honest. The B's will make the playoffs but that's all i can tell you, after that we will have to make alter sacrifices, hail mary's and voodoo chile to go on a run, that and outstanding 10 bell tending all the way. Attachments:BLACK SUITCASE.webp (11.27 KB)
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Post by pastamon on Feb 16, 2024 3:32:13 GMT
No goal support again and Sway looking like the number 2 goalie, 1-4 homestand - ouch, enlightening, reducing expectations...
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Post by RichHillOntario on Feb 16, 2024 3:32:26 GMT
The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. Richard’s play (or lack thereof) suggests otherwise. He has no reason to be in the bigs on a playoff team. I was thinking of Marc McLaughlin getting a shot before others on the farm, jm. He made a good showing when up with the Bruins.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Feb 16, 2024 3:59:24 GMT
Not that i can see. Let's say Sweeney is able to bring in Hanifan and a C of some type, is that enough to go on a run? Everything would have to go right, like a favorable 1st round matchup, favorites getting upset and hot goaltending, plus no injuries. That happened in 2019 and they still blew it, i don't see lady luck shining down that much and to that degree, but i'm a glass half full guy, haha! Yep, and you know it’s fine. Can’t contend every year. One guy I am officially done with is Forbert. 3mill for a third pairing D that can’t stay healthy, has no O ability, and doesn’t use his size in any consistent manner. No thanks. jm, you'd seen lots of Jets games when he was out there, right? I saw him on several late HNIC broadcasts before the Bruins signed him and I thought he was an abrasive player, at least against the Loafs whenever they were in Winnipeg. He'd cross check guys out of the crease and regularly step into players against the boards. Shotblocking can't do your body good but he's not the frequently rugged player I saw as a Jet. When the rumours started about potential free agent signings and his name was connected to Boston, I thought the guy I saw who played so physically was the same guy the Bruins were
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Feb 16, 2024 4:01:29 GMT
In the words of Aaron Rodgers, everyone relax….
Things are settling up nicely…. if the Laffs follow the script, the B’S will have their asses to kick once again come spring and jump start a playoff run….
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 16, 2024 4:09:37 GMT
In the words of Aaron Rodgers, everyone relax…. Things are settling up nicely…. if the Laffs follow the script, the B’S will have their asses to kick once again come spring and jump start a playoff run…. For sure, matchups are important, i think the B's could beat the Bolts as well....as long as whoever is in nets for the B's can match Vagisilsky.
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Post by Lord Markwart on Feb 16, 2024 4:10:34 GMT
2 posts and 2 open net misses... Bruins a bit unlucky tonight. Another good effort but lacked the finish. Of course, Eberle had to cash in on the Bruins as he always does. Bruin killer.
You want to have these games now instead of the Playoffs. Just a tough stretch of finding ways to lose. All teams go through it, except for last year's Bruins reg. season.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Feb 16, 2024 4:10:45 GMT
Richard’s play (or lack thereof) suggests otherwise. He has no reason to be in the bigs on a playoff team. I was thinking of Marc McLaughlin getting a shot before others on the farm, jm. He made a good showing when up with the Bruins. That was two years ago…. Not a good sign….
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Feb 16, 2024 4:14:56 GMT
In the words of Aaron Rodgers, everyone relax…. Things are settling up nicely…. if the Laffs follow the script, the B’S will have their asses to kick once again come spring and jump start a playoff run…. For sure, matchups are important, i think the B's could be the Bolts as well....as long as whoever is in nets for the B's can match Vagisilsky. That wouldn’t be a good match up unless Donnie finds some offence….
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 16, 2024 4:18:21 GMT
For sure, matchups are important, i think the B's could be the Bolts as well....as long as whoever is in nets for the B's can match Vagisilsky. That wouldn’t be a good match up unless Donnie finds some offence…. I don't know, B's looked good the other night and could have beat then in regulation or OT, them's the breaks, Vas was good. I think it would be a "could go either way" series but the B's could win. I don't know if the B's beating TO is a full blown guarantee either, let's see what they add at the deadline. The Panthers look good though.
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Post by MrHulot on Feb 16, 2024 7:42:41 GMT
From nhl.com:
Aren't we all happy that Montgomery is apparently enjoying a lot of happy hours behind the B's bench? Seriously, why does he keep playing #48? (I know I am repeating myself.) And why did he gut John Beecher? (Seems like something personal to me.)
Okay, this team is probably a few players short of a real contender. But IMHO Montgomery is consistently not putting the best possible lineup on the ice, for whatever reasons. He keeps messing around with forward line combinations and his d-men.
Maybe the worst thing that happened was that the Bruins broke virtually all regular season records last year. Difficult to fire a coach after that kind of achievements.
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Post by MrHulot on Feb 16, 2024 7:46:30 GMT
BTW: Starting the evening with some G&T and then switching to Bourbon is not a good idea, unless you like waking up in the middle of the night with a monstrous headache. But I guess Montgomery knew this already...
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Post by nitelite on Feb 16, 2024 11:43:07 GMT
B's PP is stone cold keep missin', oh well, time to call up Lysell, nuthin' to lose. The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. If JM can't see the system is broken & time to try new things? He's part of the problem not just the players! Bring Lysell in & see what he can do! They can't be any worse than they have on this home stand!
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Post by dannycater on Feb 16, 2024 13:03:05 GMT
I'm so tired of watching how little the B's defensemen other than 73 do anything offensively..they either make shitty passes or shitty weak shots or miss the net entirely...there is so little offensive skill by the D...that's why Florida is good they have D guys who have skill offensively...B's have to get a d guy who can not only be physical but dynamic a bit on offense. Lindholm, Gryz out there in the final minute of the game...really rough to watch how little they can do to help. Otherwise, felt like the forwards had a ton of chances, JVR just misses, 3 posts, Pasta robbed by Daccord....just wasn't B's night..and this time Sway didn't look like he was better than Ullmark so let's stop the trade 35 rumors and wants.
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Post by Fletcher on Feb 16, 2024 14:51:20 GMT
This all seems a little Debbie--Downerish this morning. That game was odd. The Kraken goals all seemed to be against the run of play, to steal a soccer term. The B's were peppering the Kraken net, only for the puck to go in at the other end. The B's were like Haggs wife -- just completely unable to finish, time and time again.
Swayman was fine. You can't asked for too many saves on 3-on-1s with crisp cross-ice passing. McAvoy looked fantastic. Pasta and Coyle uncharacteristically seemed to fumble golden opportunities instead of putting them away. Unlike a couple of recent stinkers, the B's didn't play bad and didn't look lethargic to me. Bad luck game, lots of posts, and some Kraken opportunism.
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Post by dannycater on Feb 16, 2024 14:58:19 GMT
I must say also that it was enjoyable to watch (not the outcome, but the broadcast) because I saw John Forslund on Seattle broadcast. What a joy to listen to his play by play and how he does such a crisp job of describing the action and keeping everyone excited...his calls on goals were terrific. He made some great calls when Pasta made a steal something to the effect the Kraken better watch out...if he were the B's play by play guy, it would be heaven on NESN.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Feb 16, 2024 15:12:28 GMT
I'm so tired of watching how little the B's defensemen other than 73 do anything offensively..they either make shitty passes or shitty weak shots or miss the net entirely...there is so little offensive skill by the D...that's why Florida is good they have D guys who have skill offensively...B's have to get a d guy who can not only be physical but dynamic a bit on offense. Lindholm, Gryz out there in the final minute of the game...really rough to watch how little they can do to help. Otherwise, felt like the forwards had a ton of chances, JVR just misses, 3 posts, Pasta robbed by Daccord....just wasn't B's night..and this time Sway didn't look like he was better than Ullmark so let's stop the trade 35 rumors and wants. Maybe James Van Winkle would’ve had better luck had it been a soccer net…. Although he’s made Adam Oates-like feeds at times, his hand coordination has been unimpressive around the dirty areas…. Actually that near miss went off his skate…. Even at one mil per I’m sure Donnie’s shaking his head at Van Winkle’s paltry nine goals, which certainly isn’t a good omen come playoff time when checking gets tighter…. Oy!
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 16, 2024 15:50:16 GMT
For sure, matchups are important, i think the B's could be the Bolts as well....as long as whoever is in nets for the B's can match Vagisilsky. That wouldn’t be a good match up unless Donnie finds some offence…. They pumped 7 past Vagisil the last time they played them and only lost the most recent game in the skills competition. I'm all over that matchup.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Feb 16, 2024 15:54:59 GMT
The Bruins could always use another goal scoring winger but I read an article before Christmas where his coach in Providence called him out for not applying his offensive skills within the structure of the team. Seems he tried to take on three or four of the opposition players by himself in the attacking end. His coach was pissed and said something along the lines of him needing to see there's not always a play to be made. The coach said Lysell has to embrace that or he won't get the call up because the team concept is what Montgomery is all about. If that's the case, it sounds like he's not yet NHL ready and the more big-league experienced Richard is. If JM can't see the system is broken & time to try new things? He's part of the problem not just the players! Bring Lysell in & see what he can do! They can't be any worse than they have on this home stand! I'd like to see what he can do, nite. Give him a shot to see if he does have the anticipated ability to find the back of the net at the big league level.
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Post by dannycater on Feb 16, 2024 16:28:51 GMT
I'm so tired of watching how little the B's defensemen other than 73 do anything offensively..they either make shitty passes or shitty weak shots or miss the net entirely...there is so little offensive skill by the D...that's why Florida is good they have D guys who have skill offensively...B's have to get a d guy who can not only be physical but dynamic a bit on offense. Lindholm, Gryz out there in the final minute of the game...really rough to watch how little they can do to help. Otherwise, felt like the forwards had a ton of chances, JVR just misses, 3 posts, Pasta robbed by Daccord....just wasn't B's night..and this time Sway didn't look like he was better than Ullmark so let's stop the trade 35 rumors and wants. Maybe James Van Winkle would’ve had better luck had it been a soccer net…. Although he’s made Adam Oates-like feeds at times, his hand coordination has been unimpressive around the dirty areas…. Actually that near miss went off his skate…. Even at one mil per I’m sure Donnie’s shaking his head at Van Winkle’s paltry nine goals, which certainly isn’t a good omen come playoff time when checking gets tighter…. Oy! thanx...34 points, plus 9 in 50 games...compared to DeBrusk 25 points, plus 11 in 52 games...JVR doesn't get anywhere close to 74 time on ice and yes 74 does a lot of things--skates, swoops, can be effective in a 3 on 3 (stopped using him on PP?), and is a better defensive player...and every time I think to get 34 points from JVR is such a great addition. His passing is awesome and I really think if he was playing on a PP with retired Krejci (and retired Bergeron), the tic-tac-toes would be spectacular on PPs and 88 would be sniping too..now that 73 has turned into a far better offensive type force.
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