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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 13, 2018 0:06:57 GMT
So Ovi needs 262 gls and he's 33 …hmmmmm……………..average roughly 45 gls for 6 yrs or 40 gls for 7 yrs….hmmm, it'll be tough, Ovi is a freak of nature though, never seems to suffer serious injury so anything is possible. I think he could come close but ultimitely won't do it. It'll be fun to keep track .
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Dec 13, 2018 0:13:30 GMT
So Ovi needs 262 gls and he's 33 …hmmmmm……………..average roughly 45 gls for 6 yrs or 40 gls for 7 yrs….hmmm, it'll be tough, Ovi is a freak of nature though, never seems to suffer serious injury so anything is possible. I think he could come close but ultimitely won't do it. It'll be fun to keep track . As mentioned on NHL radio today, Ovi is not digressing. He is a freak.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 13, 2018 0:25:30 GMT
So Ovi needs 262 gls and he's 33 …hmmmmm……………..average roughly 45 gls for 6 yrs or 40 gls for 7 yrs….hmmm, it'll be tough, Ovi is a freak of nature though, never seems to suffer serious injury so anything is possible. I think he could come close but ultimitely won't do it. It'll be fun to keep track . As mentioned on NHL radio today, Ovi is not digressing. He is a freak. Personally I hope he breaks it, it would be incredible.
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Post by shuperman on Dec 15, 2018 16:27:37 GMT
Who was the Joey who always argued with NAS and I that bullshit bullshit stuff stating Ovi hurts his team. I want him to get his ass on here. The people who thought he should be traded for peanuts. The guy turned that franchise into a sell out each and every night and although the team struggled to find a way to win in the clutch it was never just on Ovi. Detroit was very close to trading Stevie Y before they went on their cup runs as well. Ovi is not slowing down one bit and he might actually be a better all around player. He's a freak of nature and of all the gretzky records I hope he is around long enough to break it. he is pure entertainment and was always great for hockey.
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Post by 50belowzero on Dec 15, 2018 17:19:10 GMT
Back to back hat tricks, the guy is a freight train.
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Post by 50belowzero on Nov 6, 2020 14:08:22 GMT
If Ovi stays 5 more years can he catch Gretzky? It would have been hard enough with no pandemic but with these 2 shortened seasons its made it highly unlikely...
Capitals winger Alex Ovechkin still has several playing years left in him but the veteran is already thinking about the end of his playing career, one that doesn’t end in a Washington uniform. In an interview with RTVI’s Tina Kandelaki, Ovechkin stated that he sees himself winding up his career back home with Dynamo Moscow of the KHL, a team he suited up with before coming to the NHL while he also spent some time with them during the lockout before the 2012-13 season got underway.
Having said that, Washington fans shouldn’t be worrying that their franchise player will soon be leaving. In a follow-up question, he stated that he only wants to play for two teams in his career, Dynamo back home and with the Capitals in the NHL. The 35-year-old didn’t specify how long he sees himself staying in North America, theorizing it could be as long as five more years or as little as two.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 21, 2024 20:33:43 GMT
Ovi's been on a bit of a hot streak lately, 2 more gls last night so with that he's 56 gls behind Gretzky. If he even gets 10 more gls the rest of this season that leaves only 46 gls to go, doable for sure. I think he'll play until he gets the record, however long it takes.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 21, 2024 22:06:30 GMT
Ovi's been on a bit of a hot streak lately, 2 more gls last night so with that he's 56 gls behind Gretzky. If he even gets 10 more gls the rest of this season that leaves only 46 gls to go, doable for sure. I think he'll play until he gets the record, however long it takes. No doubt he wants it. And Gary Bettman, for the PR of "a chase" will want him to pursue.
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Post by Fletcher on Feb 21, 2024 22:10:02 GMT
Ovi's been on a bit of a hot streak lately, 2 more gls last night so with that he's 56 gls behind Gretzky. If he even gets 10 more gls the rest of this season that leaves only 46 gls to go, doable for sure. I think he'll play until he gets the record, however long it takes. I hereby predict that he doesn't make it. The Caps also have kind of a tough decision to make. Ovie is a crappy player overall these days, and I honestly don't know how you build a winning team/winning culture around a former star who gets to cruise for goals, hoard PP time, and get all of your empty net opportunities. But, they can't very well do anything else, so I'm sure that they'll let it ride out and hope that fans enjoy the sideshow of chasing the record, instead of winning.
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 21, 2024 22:55:28 GMT
Ovi's been on a bit of a hot streak lately, 2 more gls last night so with that he's 56 gls behind Gretzky. If he even gets 10 more gls the rest of this season that leaves only 46 gls to go, doable for sure. I think he'll play until he gets the record, however long it takes. I hereby predict that he doesn't make it. The Caps also have kind of a tough decision to make. Ovie is a crappy player overall these days, and I honestly don't know how you build a winning team/winning culture around a former star who gets to cruise for goals, hoard PP time, and get all of your empty net opportunities. But, they can't very well do anything else, so I'm sure that they'll let it ride out and hope that fans enjoy the sideshow of chasing the record, instead of winning. I think you answered the key to Ov's chase, the Caps will only get worse for the next few years, that leaves the goal chase as the show. I think Leonsis wants the all time NHL gl record holder to be a career Capital, a true feather for the franchise. If it means the team won't win a Cup then so be it, if they can stay competitive then great but the chase is the carrot. Ovechkin has 2 yrs left on his current deal, lets say he does get 10 more gls this season and leaves him 46 gls short and say he gets 15 gls a year over the next 2 years. That will leave him 16 gls short and i just don't see him stopping that close to the finish. I think he will sign a succession of 1 yr deals until he gets it and Leonsis will support that. Ovi will have to stay healthy of course but he could do it if everything falls right. I also don't see the Caps trading him although it might help for their rebuild and for his chase of the record if he went to a better team. It will be interesting for sure.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 22, 2024 12:18:31 GMT
Ovi's been on a bit of a hot streak lately, 2 more gls last night so with that he's 56 gls behind Gretzky. If he even gets 10 more gls the rest of this season that leaves only 46 gls to go, doable for sure. I think he'll play until he gets the record, however long it takes. I hereby predict that he doesn't make it. The Caps also have kind of a tough decision to make. Ovie is a crappy player overall these days, and I honestly don't know how you build a winning team/winning culture around a former star who gets to cruise for goals, hoard PP time, and get all of your empty net opportunities. But, they can't very well do anything else, so I'm sure that they'll let it ride out and hope that fans enjoy the sideshow of chasing the record, instead of winning. Maybe Leonis thinks of packing the seats during the chase ? They draw well anyways but...
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Post by MrHulot on Feb 23, 2024 5:08:06 GMT
A Russian pimp breaking the Great One's record? HARD NO (NJET/ нет)!!!
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Post by nitelite on Feb 23, 2024 14:08:37 GMT
So with Matthews scoring # 52 last night. I decided to do a comparison. We all know that Ovie is most likely going to become the greatest "goal scorer" of all time right? I mean statistically at least. Players like Wayne, Mario, Bossy & Brett Hull certainly make great cases, but Ovie is the guy!.....Or is he!?
Ovie scored his 350th goal in 581 games! Matthews scored his 350th goal at 535!!! In a 82 game schedule Ovie's average is 51 goals. Matthews? Up to this juncture? 53.3! I don't know when, but barring something drastic. Ovie is going to pass Wayne as the all-time leading goal scorer ever. There is absolutely no question in my mind that's going to happen. The question I do have is this? How long is that going to be Ovie's record before Matthews breaks it! Another interesting thing as well. Ovie holds the record of 57 empty net goals & counting in his career. Wayne retired with 56. Matthew's so far in his career has 8! Out of those 350 goals in their career. Wayne had 18 empties & Ovie had 14. The other massive difference is that Wayne, Hull, Bossy & Ovie basically had one kind of shot they used! The one timer, or just a big clapper. Matthew's uses 4 different kind of shots as far his release goes! I suck at Math, but at this pace we could see Matthews hitting the 900 goals plateau! For those that are my age? How lucky are we as hockey fans to have been around to possibly see at least 3 different players to score over 850 goals?! I LOVE THIS GAME!!
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Post by 50belowzero on Feb 23, 2024 14:42:04 GMT
Whether Ovi passes Wayne or not he's still the greatest scorer in my opinion. In Gretzky's career the goaltenders weren't all over 6' and huge and they all didn't look like the Michelin man with their big equipment. In regards to Matthews, he will have to average 50 gls a season for 10 straight years to have a chance at besting the gls record and stay healthy while trying as well, that's a hard ask but it will be something to follow for sure.
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Post by nitelite on Feb 23, 2024 16:33:52 GMT
Whether Ovi passes Wayne or not he's still the greatest scorer in my opinion. In Gretzky's career the goaltenders weren't all over 6' and huge and they all didn't look like the Michelin man with their big equipment. In regards to Matthews, he will have to average 50 gls a season for 10 straight years to have a chance at besting the gls record and stay healthy while trying as well, that's a hard ask but it will be something to follow for sure. I never had Wayne as the greatest "goal scorer" as far as pure sniper goes. That still is Bossy to me! His release & accuracy was nothing I've ever seen. Never had a big windup & over powered goalies like Ovie does. But to also add to Matthews case! Matthews goals have been 22% on the PP! Ovie's have been at over 30%. So the 5 on 5 goals comparison is impressive as well for Matthews as well.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 23, 2024 16:56:18 GMT
So with Matthews scoring # 52 last night. I decided to do a comparison. We all know that Ovie is most likely going to become the greatest "goal scorer" of all time right? I mean statistically at least. Players like Wayne, Mario, Bossy & Brett Hull certainly make great cases, but Ovie is the guy!.....Or is he!? Ovie scored his 350th goal in 581 games! Matthews scored his 350th goal at 535!!! In a 82 game schedule Ovie's average is 51 goals. Matthews? Up to this juncture? 53.3! I don't know when, but barring something drastic. Ovie is going to pass Wayne as the all-time leading goal scorer ever. There is absolutely no question in my mind that's going to happen. The question I do have is this? How long is that going to be Ovie's record before Matthews breaks it! Another interesting thing as well. Ovie holds the record of 57 empty net goals & counting in his career. Wayne retired with 56. Matthew's so far in his career has 8! Out of those 350 goals in their career. Wayne had 18 empties & Ovie had 14. The other massive difference is that Wayne, Hull, Bossy & Ovie basically had one kind of shot they used! The one timer, or just a big clapper. Matthew's uses 4 different kind of shots as far his release goes! I suck at Math, but at this pace we could see Matthews hitting the 900 goals plateau! For those that are my age? How lucky are we as hockey fans to have been around to possibly see at least 3 different players to score over 850 goals?! I LOVE THIS GAME!! Buston can do!
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 23, 2024 16:57:38 GMT
Whether Ovi passes Wayne or not he's still the greatest scorer in my opinion. In Gretzky's career the goaltenders weren't all over 6' and huge and they all didn't look like the Michelin man with their big equipment. In regards to Matthews, he will have to average 50 gls a season for 10 straight years to have a chance at besting the gls record and stay healthy while trying as well, that's a hard ask but it will be something to follow for sure. I never had Wayne as the greatest "goal scorer" as far as pure sniper goes. That still is Bossy to me! His release & accuracy was nothing I've ever seen. Never had a big windup & over powered goalies like Ovie does. But to also add to Matthews case! Matthews goals have been 22% on the PP! Ovie's have been at over 30%. So the 5 on 5 goals comparison is impressive as well for Matthews as well. I am in the doubter camp. Ovi needs 56 to tie. He has just 16 this year. It could be three more seasons of this and i don't know that the Caps can hold the fans hostage that long. But who knows. I wouldn't go as far as betting against. Say they get a bettwr playmaking C for him and all he has to do is grip and rip. Could speed him up again. But his quest for ENG will stop when he becomes too much of a liability. It is interesting to look at some of the nuances in the chase - not to take anything away from Ovechkin. Like the fact that among the top 10 ES goalscorers, he's one of three who don't have 1000 points at ES. Gartner and Hull. There's also a good chance that if he does catch Wayne, he won't catch him in ES goals and he might not catch Gordie for second. Any time you look at this, though, you are obliged to stip for a second and marvel at Wayne. 900+ more points than #2 Jagr and almost 600 more ES points. Insane. I still say Bossy was the best pure goalscorer. The puck didn't just have eyes, it had a HUD for precision navigation. And we don't give Mario enough credit.
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 23, 2024 17:00:21 GMT
So with Matthews scoring # 52 last night. I decided to do a comparison. We all know that Ovie is most likely going to become the greatest "goal scorer" of all time right? I mean statistically at least. Players like Wayne, Mario, Bossy & Brett Hull certainly make great cases, but Ovie is the guy!.....Or is he!? Ovie scored his 350th goal in 581 games! Matthews scored his 350th goal at 535!!! In a 82 game schedule Ovie's average is 51 goals. Matthews? Up to this juncture? 53.3! I don't know when, but barring something drastic. Ovie is going to pass Wayne as the all-time leading goal scorer ever. There is absolutely no question in my mind that's going to happen. The question I do have is this? How long is that going to be Ovie's record before Matthews breaks it! Another interesting thing as well. Ovie holds the record of 57 empty net goals & counting in his career. Wayne retired with 56. Matthew's so far in his career has 8! Out of those 350 goals in their career. Wayne had 18 empties & Ovie had 14. The other massive difference is that Wayne, Hull, Bossy & Ovie basically had one kind of shot they used! The one timer, or just a big clapper. Matthew's uses 4 different kind of shots as far his release goes! I suck at Math, but at this pace we could see Matthews hitting the 900 goals plateau! For those that are my age? How lucky are we as hockey fans to have been around to possibly see at least 3 different players to score over 850 goals?! I LOVE THIS GAME!! Buston can do! I really want to see him have a huge number and the Laffs still miss the playoffs. 6 and 7 up on the Wings and Bolts. Not likely, but Toronto fans' heads would explode not knowing whether to burn down the building ot erect a statue.
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Post by nitelite on Feb 23, 2024 18:23:42 GMT
I really want to see him have a huge number and the Laffs still miss the playoffs. 6 and 7 up on the Wings and Bolts. Not likely, but Toronto fans' heads would explode not knowing whether to burn down the building ot erect a statue. Besides the fact they're Laff fans. My biggest issue with them is how they let Marner off the hook for his consistent MIA in the post season. They go after JT, Matthews & Nylander but MM is like their little boy wrapped in bubble wrap! For what he gets paid he's the most overpaid player in the game for what he brings into the post season!
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 23, 2024 20:32:44 GMT
I really want to see him have a huge number and the Laffs still miss the playoffs. 6 and 7 up on the Wings and Bolts. Not likely, but Toronto fans' heads would explode not knowing whether to burn down the building ot erect a statue. Besides the fact they're Laff fans. My biggest issue with them is how they let Marner off the hook for his consistent MIA in the post season. They go after JT, Matthews & Nylander but MM is like their little boy wrapped in bubble wrap! For what he gets paid he's the most overpaid player in the game for what he brings into the post season! Think it's because Marner is from the area ?
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Post by sandogbrewin on Feb 23, 2024 20:34:10 GMT
I really want to see him have a huge number and the Laffs still miss the playoffs. 6 and 7 up on the Wings and Bolts. Not likely, but Toronto fans' heads would explode not knowing whether to burn down the building ot erect a statue. I'd love to see the burning part for sure.
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Post by bookboy007 on Feb 23, 2024 20:47:03 GMT
Besides the fact they're Laff fans. My biggest issue with them is how they let Marner off the hook for his consistent MIA in the post season. They go after JT, Matthews & Nylander but MM is like their little boy wrapped in bubble wrap! For what he gets paid he's the most overpaid player in the game for what he brings into the post season! Think it's because Marner is from the area ? So's Tavares. I think it's because they've heard talking heads say that Marner is fragile - maybe too fragile for Toronto media - so they aboid oiking on him thinking it will turn him around.
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Post by MrHulot on Feb 24, 2024 5:11:44 GMT
I never had Wayne as the greatest "goal scorer" as far as pure sniper goes. That still is Bossy to me! His release & accuracy was nothing I've ever seen. Never had a big windup & over powered goalies like Ovie does. But to also add to Matthews case! Matthews goals have been 22% on the PP! Ovie's have been at over 30%. So the 5 on 5 goals comparison is impressive as well for Matthews as well. I am in the doubter camp. Ovi needs 56 to tie. He has just 16 this year. It could be three more seasons of this and i don't know that the Caps can hold the fans hostage that long. But who knows. I wouldn't go as far as betting against. Say they get a bettwr playmaking C for him and all he has to do is grip and rip. Could speed him up again. But his quest for ENG will stop when he becomes too much of a liability. It is interesting to look at some of the nuances in the chase - not to take anything away from Ovechkin. Like the fact that among the top 10 ES goalscorers, he's one of three who don't have 1000 points at ES. Gartner and Hull. There's also a good chance that if he does catch Wayne, he won't catch him in ES goals and he might not catch Gordie for second. Any time you look at this, though, you are obliged to stip for a second and marvel at Wayne. 900+ more points than #2 Jagr and almost 600 more ES points. Insane. I still say Bossy was the best pure goalscorer. The puck didn't just have eyes, it had a HUD for precision navigation.
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Post by MrHulot on Feb 24, 2024 5:13:24 GMT
Think it's because Marner is from the area ? So's Tavares. I think it's because they've heard talking heads say that Marner is fragile - maybe too fragile for Toronto media - so they aboid oiking on him thinking it will turn him around. I never "aboid oiking". It's just too much fun, and the wife likes it too...
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 21, 2024 13:35:20 GMT
Ovi now 49 gls behind Gretzky after potting 2 more last night.
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