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Post by pletchner on Mar 21, 2018 22:53:10 GMT
Carlo has to play better before he is even considered for a post season spot. He has TON of potential. And he has shown it. But right now, he's #7, at best, if the blue line is healthy. the coaching staff staunchly disagrees. We'll see. Right now, he's the worst Bs Dman on the ice 4 out of 5 games he plays.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Mar 22, 2018 0:37:43 GMT
Seems like the consensus is DeBrusk stays and Heinen might be in jeopardy if Donato continues to play they way he did the other night. And the, “who sits ?” on the back end is between Miller and McQuaid. Not bad problems to have outside of the injuries. FWIW, I don't think it's down to Miller or McQuaid. A) Miller wins that, hands down; and B) it's between Grizz and Carlo. I think Grizz is the answer to that debate. But the depth right now is pretty amazing. Lots of good choices is a nice problem to have. Agree to disagree. Miller and McQuaid can’t play as the same pairing. I don’t want either dman in the top-4 with Holden on the team and healthy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 12:08:34 GMT
the coaching staff staunchly disagrees. We'll see. Right now, he's the worst Bs Dman on the ice 4 out of 5 games he plays. Solid game by Carlo last night ... Grzelcyk as well so I am on record for these two starting the playoff's with Holden and McQuaid out .. I mean there are people that downplay plus/minus but Grzelcyk is plus 23 ... he just moves so well in his zone.. I know that Pittsburg game a while back exposed the smaller guys but this is my choice to start ... will need two righties on pk when Chara comes off but it's doable.
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Post by socca10 on Mar 22, 2018 13:11:01 GMT
The biggest thing we can say now is that the B's have lots of (good) options to mix and match based on opponent or who is playing well/not... and they have proven talent on board in the event of injury. Carlo had a rough stretch but now it seems that he's making a good case to be a part of things come playoff time. I noted this early in the year, but one big advantage of injuries is that other guys are forced to prove their worth. Kevan Miller has been arguably the Bruins' best defenseman in the past month (maybe longer)... if everyone had stayed healthy, would we see Grizz playing this well, or would Carlo bounce back as he has or continued to circle the drain? Adversity-tested teams tend to do well in long playoff series where stuff can change quickly...
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Post by fanonymous on Mar 22, 2018 15:11:04 GMT
With four rounds of first-to-four series leading to Lord Stanley's Cup, the depth being developed during this stretch of success with mix-and-match lineups will afford Cassidy the luxury of changing things up during each series to provide occasional respites for both the young players and veterans alike without a precipitous drop-off in overall team effectiveness. This could prove a significant advantage as the playoffs wear on (obvious pun intended). Hopefully, the injured can return to full strength and the Bruins can remain relatively healthy throughout the playoffs. If so, the sky's the limit for this crew and once the Jacobs jettison Neely & Sweeney after the season, the dynasty can fully arise.
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Post by kelvana33 on Mar 22, 2018 16:56:48 GMT
Donato-Bergeron-Marchand
Donato-Krejci-Nash
Donato-Nash-Backes
Donato-Kuraly-Acciari
Chara-Donato
Donato-McAVoy
Holden-Donato
Rask Donato
Let me know if I left someone out.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Mar 22, 2018 19:39:30 GMT
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Post by sportsnut on Mar 22, 2018 21:47:36 GMT
Donato-Bergeron-Marchand Donato-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Donato-Kuraly-Acciari Chara-Donato Donato-McAVoy Holden-Donato Rask Donato Let me know if I left someone out. You can't have Donato backing up the starting goalie, fixed it.
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Post by Lord Markwart on Mar 23, 2018 5:11:35 GMT
Donato-Bergeron-Marchand Donato-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Donato-Kuraly-Acciari Chara-Donato Donato-McAVoy Holden-Donato Rask Donato Let me know if I left someone out. I don't feel like Donato gets enough ice time with this lineup.
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Post by mdsizzle on Mar 23, 2018 15:28:22 GMT
Donato-Bergeron-Marchand Donato-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Donato-Kuraly-Acciari Chara-Donato Donato-McAVoy Holden-Donato Rask Donato Let me know if I left someone out. Ya, blatant error kelv, you have rask starting over Donato? Get your shit together man!
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Post by mdsizzle on Mar 23, 2018 15:30:23 GMT
Donato-Bergeron-Marchand Donato-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Donato-Kuraly-Acciari Chara-Donato Donato-McAVoy Holden-Donato Rask Donato Let me know if I left someone out. I don't feel like Donato gets enough ice time with this lineup. Well, with Donato behind the bench, I'm sure he will bump up his ice time.
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Post by walktheline on Mar 23, 2018 15:43:03 GMT
The D is the difficult part. The forward lines are business as usual if everyone is back. The only wildcard for me is if Donato keeps producing he may supplant Heinen on 3rd line LW. If so, Heinen, Gionta and Wingels are the spares. I can see Cassidy rotating guys in based on how the lines are working and/or for match-up purposes. Then, of course, there are always injuries.
For the D, maybe something like this: McAvoy - Chara Miller - Krug Carlo - Gryz Holden is first guy off the bench if say, Miller gets giggly. McQ probably doesn't see much ice. Postma can leave his gear at home.
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 23, 2018 15:59:28 GMT
We're going to learn a lot about Cassidy in the post season, because his line up could change night to night. He can do so many things match up based. A guy could play 7 games against Toronto, and then sit all 7 against Tampa, especially on the back end. Hopefully he pulls the right strings.
I think we'll learn an awful lot about the younger bruins during this playoff run if it can last. Character wise, if a player sees that competition behind him, and it makes him play worse....that might be the guy you want to move on from after their ELC. Conversely if a guy like Carlo, Grizz, or Debrusk sees that competition behind them and ups their game, maybe they're someone you want to commit to long term in the off season, and try to get a steal of a contract.
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Post by stevegm on Mar 23, 2018 16:10:45 GMT
So, if everyones healthy, we have competition on the forward lines, and on D. Obviously, those that drive the ship are exempt, but so much of the formula is about "the rest". Teams that go deep always have a couple no names that end up playing like all stars. I think the internal competition among that group has a huge upside, but it has to be manages carefully. It ramps up the pressure big time, and it's already red lined
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Post by Meshuggah66 on Mar 24, 2018 3:57:25 GMT
Bergeron-Marchand-Pastrnak DeBrusk-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Heinen-Kuraly-Gionta
Yeah, Id like to keep the fourth line together for their energy, but I think Heinen and Gionta are too big an upgrade to sit on the bench, that's almost another 3rd line. Schaller and Acciari will play with injuries that are sure to come. You could flip Heinen and Donato here as well. I think all 4 of those lines can score.
Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelyck-Holden
This is real tough with the depth the Bs have on D. As good as Holden is, Grz has been too good to sit. The last spot between L Holden and R Carlo was a bit of a toss up. I think right now, Holden is just better and he is experienced playing his off side, so I went with what I feel is the best 6 guys.
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 24, 2018 5:36:15 GMT
Bergeron-Marchand-Pastrnak DeBrusk-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Heinen-Kuraly-Gionta Yeah, Id like to keep the fourth line together for their energy, but I think Heinen and Gionta are too big an upgrade to sit on the bench, that's almost another 3rd line. Schaller and Acciari will play with injuries that are sure to come. You could flip Heinen and Donato here as well. I think all 4 of those lines can score. Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelyck-Holden This is real tough with the depth the Bs have on D. As good as Holden is, Grz has been too good to sit. The last spot between L Holden and R Carlo was a bit of a toss up. I think right now, Holden is just better and he is experienced playing his off side, so I went with what I feel is the best 6 guys. What have you liked about Gionta?
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Post by The OC on Mar 24, 2018 5:44:48 GMT
As long as Marchy and Pasta are in the lineup, it doesn’t really seem to matter who else plays.
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Post by pletchner on Mar 24, 2018 6:48:13 GMT
Bergeron-Marchand-Pastrnak DeBrusk-Krejci-Nash Donato-Nash-Backes Heinen-Kuraly-Gionta Yeah, Id like to keep the fourth line together for their energy, but I think Heinen and Gionta are too big an upgrade to sit on the bench, that's almost another 3rd line. Schaller and Acciari will play with injuries that are sure to come. You could flip Heinen and Donato here as well. I think all 4 of those lines can score. Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelyck-Holden This is real tough with the depth the Bs have on D. As good as Holden is, Grz has been too good to sit. The last spot between L Holden and R Carlo was a bit of a toss up. I think right now, Holden is just better and he is experienced playing his off side, so I went with what I feel is the best 6 guys. What have you liked about Gionta? I think Gionta has played well, but I put Schaller, Wingles, and Acciari on that line over him. In that order.
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Post by islamorada on Mar 24, 2018 12:39:14 GMT
Grizzledchick and Killer were an excellent pairing last night. I wonder if Krug and Holden would be a good pairing for the playoffs as a result? If Debrusk is back then he goes to the second line, he has earned the spot. Heinen imo is a better player right now than Donato. The "50s" line for a 4th line is excellent. I dare say, Donato sits until needed. Gionta is insurance.
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Post by UtahGetMeTwo on Mar 24, 2018 13:58:42 GMT
No way Schaller and Acciari are coming out of the Bs lineup.
The 4th line is and still will be awesome. Fun to watch.
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 24, 2018 14:12:55 GMT
No way Schaller and Acciari are coming out of the Bs lineup. The 4th line is and still will be awesome. Fun to watch. As I've said before, the B's 4th line as constituted is doing a great job, no need to mess with it or break it up, over thinking. Leave that line alone it needs no fixing, it was even a good 3rd line last night.
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Post by fanonymous on Mar 24, 2018 14:32:54 GMT
lots of [great] choices for Cassidy ...
two things not to forget when crafting lineups for the playoffs are penalty killing and player development
a guy like Schaller may not be considered highly in an offense-first lineup (although he has potted some sweet goals including last night's shorty), but he brings very good value on the PK
benching Carlo throughout the playoffs is sure to do nothing but damage to a very promising young defenseman who has big a consistent part of getting the team to this point in the season
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 24, 2018 14:54:05 GMT
What have you liked about Gionta? I think Gionta has played well, but I put Schaller, Wingles, and Acciari on that line over him. In that order. Agreed. What I should have said is what makes him think that gionta is an upgrade over those three guys.
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 24, 2018 14:55:58 GMT
lots of [great] choices for Cassidy ... two things not to forget when crafting lineups for the playoffs are penalty killing and player development a guy like Schaller may not be considered highly in an offense-first lineup (although he has potted some sweet goals including last night's shorty), but he brings very good value on the PK benching Carlo throughout the playoffs is sure to do nothing but damage to a very promising young defenseman who has big a consistent part of getting the team to this point in the season I really understand the player development sentiment, but I'm not sure I can get on board with it. Last year, by all means. That team wasn't going to win the cup. This team can. As the founder and president of the Brandon Carlo fan club, if he slips into one of his funks, let him sit. The good news is that it seems like he's peaking at the right time.
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Post by davinator on Mar 24, 2018 15:12:48 GMT
lots of [great] choices for Cassidy ... two things not to forget when crafting lineups for the playoffs are penalty killing and player development a guy like Schaller may not be considered highly in an offense-first lineup (although he has potted some sweet goals including last night's shorty), but he brings very good value on the PK benching Carlo throughout the playoffs is sure to do nothing but damage to a very promising young defenseman who has big a consistent part of getting the team to this point in the season I really understand the player development sentiment, but I'm not sure I can get on board with it. Last year, by all means. That team wasn't going to win the cup. This team can. As the founder and president of the Brandon Carlo fan club, if he slips into one of his funks, let him sit. The good news is that it seems like he's peaking at the right time. I am going to have to see Carlo have at least 2 consecutive good, "giggle-less" games for me to think he is "peaking"...
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