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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 24, 2018 15:39:26 GMT
I really understand the player development sentiment, but I'm not sure I can get on board with it. Last year, by all means. That team wasn't going to win the cup. This team can. As the founder and president of the Brandon Carlo fan club, if he slips into one of his funks, let him sit. The good news is that it seems like he's peaking at the right time. I am going to have to see Carlo have at least 2 consecutive good, "giggle-less" games for me to think he is "peaking"... Haven’t watched the last two?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 15:40:32 GMT
lots of [great] choices for Cassidy ... two things not to forget when crafting lineups for the playoffs are penalty killing and player development a guy like Schaller may not be considered highly in an offense-first lineup (although he has potted some sweet goals including last night's shorty), but he brings very good value on the PK benching Carlo throughout the playoffs is sure to do nothing but damage to a very promising young defenseman who has big a consistent part of getting the team to this point in the season Carlo will play because he deserves too... I think because he is so tall that he moves really well out there ala Rick Nash it doesn't always show.. missed the game last night but read he played well .. he has been solid of late ... on board with Schaller too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 11:56:04 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense.
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta
Chara-McAvoy
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Post by walktheline on Mar 25, 2018 12:17:50 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo Well, I really would like to blast mr. insider here but that's no worse than what I projected. This lineup isn't bad. Plus there will be some shuffling up and down and in and out of the lineup depending on matchups and injuries and who left the best donuts on Cassisdy's desk the morning of game day. I can see Donato making a rookie mistake and going to Dunkins which is a ticket to nacho heaven.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 12:52:57 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo Well, I really would like to blast mr. insider here but that's no worse than what I projected. This lineup isn't bad. Plus there will be some shuffling up and down and in and out of the lineup depending on matchups and injuries and who left the best donuts on Cassisdy's desk the morning of game day. I can see Donato making a rookie mistake and going to Dunkins which is a ticket to nacho heaven. For a guy who follows the team and leaves Schaller great 4th liner and penalty killer out really dont get it plus can Acciari win face off's and he hasn't played there all year ... I would keep Debrusk top 6 move Donato with Backes-Heinen and move Riley Nash to center the 4th line with Schaller and Acciari
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Post by islamorada on Mar 25, 2018 13:20:32 GMT
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Post by 50belowzero on Mar 25, 2018 15:11:45 GMT
Personally i would leave the 4th alone, Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari has been everything a 4th line is supposed to be, energy and a relentless forecheck, with 11/6/8 gls respectively. All of them can also play the PK if needed and that is a bonus. I believe Cassidy has a decision to make in regards to DeBrusk, Heinen or Donato on who sits. With DeBrusk already out with what appears to be a head injury, his decision has been made easy at least for now. As it is DeBrusk hasn't even been skating yet, so his hit to the noggin is still lingering.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Mar 25, 2018 19:09:04 GMT
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Debrusk-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Backes-Donato Shaller-Nash-Kuraly
Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Miller
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You're best players have to play, Wingels Accari Gionta will get games, hopefully on 4th, as there are no injuries and we would be winning. McQuade will get his games as well
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Post by vice on Mar 25, 2018 21:46:04 GMT
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Debrusk-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Backes-Donato Shaller-Nash-Kuraly Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo You're best players have to play, Wingels Accari Gionta will get games, hopefully on 4th, as there are no injuries and we would be winning. McQuade will get his games as well Hard to complain with that line up, but how much has Backes played C this year? The last I remember was the game he got cut, but after that? I’m not sure if him with two rooks on the 3rd would be my first choice, but if they can deliver why not? I want see keep watching Donato play but I do like the 4 line as is. Think they will wear down the defense in a 7 game series
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Post by davinator on Mar 26, 2018 0:00:44 GMT
I am going to have to see Carlo have at least 2 consecutive good, "giggle-less" games for me to think he is "peaking"... Haven’t watched the last two? Yup. Tell you what - another good game for Carlo and not another good game for Carlo and I will start coming around on this kid. He has a lot of upside and so far tonight against Minny he's playing pretty well.
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Post by pletchner on Mar 26, 2018 8:40:09 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo Let's just say I'm happy you aren't the Bs coach, or GM.
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Post by pletchner on Mar 26, 2018 8:42:42 GMT
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Debrusk-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Backes-Donato Shaller-Nash-Kuraly Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo You're best players have to play, Wingels Accari Gionta will get games, hopefully on 4th, as there are no injuries and we would be winning. McQuade will get his games as well Could live with this, but I'd prefer Holden to Carlo. Right now. Long term, I'll take Carlo, comfortably.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 9:48:16 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo Let's just say I'm happy you aren't the Bs coach, or GM. These aren't my lines they are the 'supposed' Bruins Insider joe haggerty's lines
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 9:50:49 GMT
Let's just say I'm happy you aren't the Bs coach, or GM. These weren't my lines they were Joe Haggerty's lines ... These aren't my lines they are the 'supposed' Bruins Insider joe haggerty's lines
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Post by islamorada on Mar 26, 2018 12:23:30 GMT
Personally i would leave the 4th alone, Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari has been everything a 4th line is supposed to be, energy and a relentless forecheck, with 11/6/8 gls respectively. All of them can also play the PK if needed and that is a bonus. I believe Cassidy has a decision to make in regards to DeBrusk, Heinen or Donato on who sits. With DeBrusk already out with what appears to be a head injury, his decision has been made easy at least for now. As it is DeBrusk hasn't even been skating yet, so his hit to the noggin is still lingering. No denying Donato has skill. It's primarily shooting the puck, defensively imo he falls down a lot. The last two games he has been given a few chances to skate into the offensive zone only to mishandle the puck with a turnover ensuing. If some wonder why Krejci has not been the same, well, Debrusk made it easier on a speed entry. Not having Rick Nash has made Krejci seem invisible. The issue is Donato must up his game defensively or he is the third on the list. So Debrusk if healthy, Heinen then Donato. Every one is correct that it is a bonus for a coach to have those choices depending upon the opponent.
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Post by chappy28 on Mar 26, 2018 13:54:48 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo two things 1. Is Gionta really that good? He doesn't pass my "eye test". I get he came strong out the gates with some production but I really don't see him doing much better than those he would be bumping from the line-up. Whoever he bumps, we loose physicality and grit during the playoffs when we most need it. 2. Schaller stays. Versatility is the key. Perfect 4th liner who also has the skill to score some pretty goals. I like our 4th line this year. If we change anything (we certainly don't need to), it should be Riley Nash to 4C to make room for Donato on the 3rd line --- preferably with Backes at center and Heinen. Nash-Schaller-Kurally is a VERY good 4th line that can also play a shutdown role We have some great chemistry on this team. No need to f it up. I'd feel bad for Nash being pushed to the 4th line but in reality he'd be moved up to protect leads and Donato will be sheltered if he even makes the roster. Debrusk-krecji-Nash (if healthy) had good chemistry so we keep the together. Heinen and Backes also have played well together so they stay together as well. They are both defensively responsible so can help cover for Donato. No way Donato needs to go from college hockey to top 6 playoffs
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Post by pletchner on Mar 26, 2018 14:29:26 GMT
Let's just say I'm happy you aren't the Bs coach, or GM. These aren't my lines they are the 'supposed' Bruins Insider joe haggerty's lines
Woops. I KNOW I am happy Fat Haggs doesn't have a say.
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Mar 26, 2018 14:47:52 GMT
Don't be sorry for Nash on 4th. It is where he belongs and it makes the B'a stronger. He has had a great year but he is not a top c
Donato is going to go through a learning curve and Stl Dal and Min were good teams to wet his feet in the NHL. Another 2 games against TB and 3 against T'aunt Flo and he will be playoffs ready
Playing with Hein and Back will be better than any line with Gionta
Any word on Debrusk
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Post by bostonfan191646 on Mar 26, 2018 15:52:33 GMT
If everyone is healthy, I think donato should sit.
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Post by dannycater on Mar 26, 2018 16:16:13 GMT
Bergeron, Pasta, Marchand DK, Rick Nash, DeBrusk Riley Nash, Backes, Heinen Kuraly, Acciari, Schaller Sit Donato (disappeared even in Cassidy's eyes I believe, but again he was like a lot of young guys who come out of the gate like superstar and then it's Griffith time), Wingels, Gionta (he serves a purpose but they already have 3 guys who do it better than him, which is the 4th line), Szwarz. D-Men Chara, Carlo, Gryz, K. Miller, Krug, McAvoy Sit Holden-McQuaid in there in a moment's notice. Carlo, Chara, K. Miller basically allow for free skaters like McAvoy, Krug and Gryz. It's why McQuaid really never could get back in the lineup when he got healthy. Gryz was too good overall and Carlo has turned up his game pretty much in the last few months.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 26, 2018 16:23:30 GMT
Here are Haggerty's lines for the playoff's ... agree with the d-men ... dont agree not having Schaller- having Acciari at center .. Debrusk on the 4th ... doesn't make sense. Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Donato-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes DeBrusk-Acciari-Gionta Chara-McAvoy Krug-Miller Grzelcyk-Carlo two things 1. Is Gionta really that good? He doesn't pass my "eye test". I get he came strong out the gates with some production but I really don't see him doing much better than those he would be bumping from the line-up. Whoever he bumps, we loose physicality and grit during the playoffs when we most need it. 2. Schaller stays. Versatility is the key. Perfect 4th liner who also has the skill to score some pretty goals. I like our 4th line this year. If we change anything (we certainly don't need to), it should be Riley Nash to 4C to make room for Donato on the 3rd line --- preferably with Backes at center and Heinen. Nash-Schaller-Kurally is a VERY good 4th line that can also play a shutdown role We have some great chemistry on this team. No need to f it up. I'd feel bad for Nash being pushed to the 4th line but in reality he'd be moved up to protect leads and Donato will be sheltered if he even makes the roster. Debrusk-krecji-Nash (if healthy) had good chemistry so we keep the together. Heinen and Backes also have played well together so they stay together as well. They are both defensively responsible so can help cover for Donato. No way Donato needs to go from college hockey to top 6 playoffs Yeah, I just do not get the urge to play tomf**kery with the lineup that was killing the league until injuries and other factors messed it up (with the exception of Nash in for Spooner, of course). Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak Debrusk-Krejci-Nash Heinen-Nash-Backes Schaller-Kuraly-Acciari In particular, I do not understand gifting a spot to insurance policy Gionta who wasn't good enough to sign a contract for the season, and while I like Donato and hope he turns into a point-game player over more than 3-4 games, I'm going to lean on DeBrusk's excellent pursuit, boardwork, and 39 NHL points rather than hope Donato's ready or can become playoff ready in a few games.
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Post by dannycater on Mar 26, 2018 16:47:55 GMT
Maybe it's me, but every time I see Kuraly, Schaller and Acciari, there seems to be zone time, hard checks, forechecking and a scoring opportunity. Sometimes they get caught maybe in the wrong line v. line situation defensively, but they have chemistry. Schaller does more than the other 2 and that's why you see him get split away and used on penalty kill. All 3 ahead of Gionta though.
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Post by bookboy007 on Mar 26, 2018 17:01:29 GMT
I should add that I start with that lineup and adjust as needed. But I think that's your best shot at winning.
On D, same principle:
Chara-McAvoy Krug-Carlo Grz-Miller
McQuaid and Holden are relief, with Holden in for any of the puck movers and McQuaid for any of the stay at home guys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 18:29:32 GMT
If everyone is healthy, I think donato should sit. Makes sense will keep some guys on their A game it's great to have so much depth
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Post by seobrien on Mar 26, 2018 18:33:20 GMT
I say all the new guys save 61 sit and the lines will (or should be) what we all thought. Marchand/Bergeron/Pastrnak Debrusk/Krejci/Nash Heinen/Nash/Backes Schaller/Kuraly/Acciari Donato Wingels Gionta are the spares Z/MacAvoy Krug/Carlo Grizz/Miller Darth and Holden are spares My God, did I just agree with DannyCater?!!
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