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Post by 50belowzero on May 19, 2021 14:45:20 GMT
I imagine Lauzon could have made that pass. I mean the lane was wide open, like grand canyon open, no one near Marchy and bingo. My thanks to Brendan Dillon once again. I love Lauzon, the way Cassidy loves his binky Kuraly, but I know that pass from Gryz, I've had friends that have once made that type of pass, and no sir, Lauzon could not have made that Gryz pass. Sure he could, easy.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 19, 2021 14:45:57 GMT
You could drive 3 Greyhound buses’ through that lane.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 19, 2021 14:48:53 GMT
I love Lauzon, the way Cassidy loves his binky Kuraly, but I know that pass from Gryz, I've had friends that have once made that type of pass, and no sir, Lauzon could not have made that Gryz pass. Sure he could, easy. I knew he was lying as soon as he said, "I've had friends",..........
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Post by kelvana33 on May 19, 2021 14:54:38 GMT
Great secondary assist. I mean, hockey 101 right? There is not a Cap within 50 feet of that attempted clear out. I'm no genius but even an idiot like me standing in the net all those years as the coaches went over this, up the boards to a teammate, no teammate there go up the glass so opposing team cant get it cleanly. That's stuff you learn in squirts and they go over it repeatedly every year. Spot on. No slight to Gryz but this is high level NHL hockey, even a 3rd pairing guy should make that pass and then you have an elite finisher waiting for the pass. Hell Shupe could make that pass.Lets not get crazy.
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Post by fifthline on May 19, 2021 14:58:43 GMT
With new ice the pass was still wabbly right until it hit Marchand's stick; it flattened out just in time. Nice pass, great shot by Marchand.
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Post by The OC on May 19, 2021 15:03:18 GMT
Spot on. No slight to Gryz but this is high level NHL hockey, even a 3rd pairing guy should make that pass and then you have an elite finisher waiting for the pass. Hell Shupe could make that pass.Lets not get crazy. Shupe would have missed the pass and blamed the ref.
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Post by The OC on May 19, 2021 15:06:25 GMT
Gryz's pass was perfect. Even Gryz doesn't make that every time. And not every player on the roster would think to make that pass when they received possession. That was the best element's of Gryz's game on display.
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Post by davinator on May 19, 2021 15:33:53 GMT
Yeah, I agree. But technically, UFAs are still on their current team's roster until after the draft by the sound of it. So the Squid could take a UFA and it would count as that team's one player. They wouldn't do that unless they had a deal in place, and a pending FA wouldn't be likely to agree without hitting the market - but it's feasible. I don’t see it from either side. Why waste an expansion draft pick on a player you can just sign a couple of weeks later? If I’m Francis and I want, say, Ovechkin, I use the window to tell him how great the offer will be and how great Seattle is and all the sales pitch, then tell him whatever the Caps offer, add a year and a mil a year and come play for us. If that sounds good to you, pick up the phone at 12:01 on the first day of UFA. It’ll be me calling. And then I take the best player the Caps expose. Just noticed your new(?) sig, Book. Classic. Where is Fletcher anyway?
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Post by bookboy007 on May 19, 2021 15:43:57 GMT
Gryz's pass was perfect. Even Gryz doesn't make that every time. And not every player on the roster would think to make that pass when they received possession. That was the best element's of Gryz's game on display. Watching the play develop, it all seemed inevitable if they could just execute from the moment Krejci held the line. You could see how open Grz was if Krejci just moved it right away...and he did, and as soon as the puck left DK's stick, you could see Marchand come free on the other side of the ice and a huge wide lane to get the puck to him. I thought for a second that Grz was going to take another step up and shoot, and I think he fooled the Caps with that first half step, too, but I started celebrating when I saw him attempt the pass.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 19, 2021 15:55:38 GMT
Spot on. No slight to Gryz but this is high level NHL hockey, even a 3rd pairing guy should make that pass and then you have an elite finisher waiting for the pass. Hell Shupe could make that pass.Lets not get crazy. Sure, even Zboril could have made that pass, easy.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 19, 2021 15:58:01 GMT
Its not like it was a 30 foot seam pass with a 2 ft port. Hats off to Gryz all the same, protect Lauzon or make a deal with the Kraken.
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Post by dezaruchi on May 19, 2021 16:15:38 GMT
Its not like it was a 30 foot seam pass with a 2 ft port. Hats off to Gryz all the same, protect Lauzon or make a deal with the Kraken. Bottom line is that if Gryz doesn't make that pass we'd all be sitting here debating how much longer he should stay in the lineup. He's been mostly poor defensively so far with his decision making being particularly suspect.
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Post by dannycater on May 19, 2021 16:50:34 GMT
Its not like it was a 30 foot seam pass with a 2 ft port. Hats off to Gryz all the same, protect Lauzon or make a deal with the Kraken. Bottom line is that if Gryz doesn't make that pass we'd all be sitting here debating how much longer he should stay in the lineup. He's been mostly poor defensively so far with his decision making being particularly suspect. E-X-A-C-T-L-Y.....right to that point, I was very frustrated with 48 and have been the whole series--defensively. So there you go, but yeah I'm protecting Lauzon in all honesty, his upside is he becomes a defensive d-man demon who could have a long career in Boston or elsewhere.
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Post by dannycater on May 19, 2021 16:53:24 GMT
Last thing on the goal...yes we can try to say Zboril, Lauzon, Kampfer, Liles, fucking Bartkowski could make that pass...but here's the thing...I've seen many a botched pass from a d guy, from a forward, from an All-Star and I've seen many a botched 1-timer attempt...Gryz seized a moment...it's not that easy. Sorry, not when it's 3-3 and you are down 1-0 in games. Not fucking easy at all...Fucking hard if you think about it.
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Post by Meshuggah66 on May 19, 2021 22:32:41 GMT
I love Lauzon, the way Cassidy loves his binky Kuraly, but I know that pass from Gryz, I've had friends that have once made that type of pass, and no sir, Lauzon could not have made that Gryz pass. Sure he could, easy. Its gotta be in the wheelhouse, not too far in front of, or behind Marchand, fast enough to beat the goalie across, and slow enough to be 1-timed. Puck preferably flat, or just a little on edge, and extra points if you can fool the goalie into thinking shot enough to delay his move just a split second.
IDK about Lauzon, but many NHLers can't make that pass
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Post by 50belowzero on May 19, 2021 22:37:27 GMT
Its gotta be in the wheelhouse, not too far in front of, or behind Marchand, fast enough to beat the goalie across, and slow enough to be 1-timed. Puck preferably flat, or just a little on edge, and extra points if you can fool the goalie into thinking shot enough to delay his move just a split second.
IDK about Lauzon, but many NHLers can't make that pass
To me the hardest part of completing that pass would be the pressure, but this wasn’t Gryz’ first playoff game or OT. My thoughts are that because the lane was so wide open a competent top 4 D man could make that pass, an elite finisher closed the deal. Maybe some D would get nervous and misfire, I certainly could see that happening for sure.
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Post by Meshuggah66 on May 19, 2021 22:51:29 GMT
I agree, nerves can make some inexperienced guys screw up an otherwise easy play.
But I still say that a 60' 1-timer setup for a 50' shot, - while disguising his body movement just enough to get the goalie to think shot - takes significant skill . And I'd guess more than half of NHLers don't have that skill, even with the lane wide open.
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Post by moognoates on Jun 10, 2021 3:32:12 GMT
End of season edition...
I am protecting:
Bergeron Marchand Pasta Smith Coyle Lazar Frederic (does he need to be protected?)
Mac Carlo Lauzon
Best guess is Krackheads take Debrusk or Gryz
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Post by RichHillOntario on Jun 10, 2021 3:42:38 GMT
End of season edition... I am protecting: Bergeron Marchand Pasta Smith Coyle Lazar Frederic (does he need to be protected?) Mac Carlo Lauzon Best guess is Krackheads take Debrusk or GryzHim, they can have.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jun 10, 2021 11:26:26 GMT
Grzelcyk walked himself right out of Boston with his play down the stretch of the series.
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Post by Meshuggah66 on Jun 10, 2021 20:22:19 GMT
Im not giving up on Grz. Sure he made some mistakes, some bad plays, but he's a real good player, and seems to be a good person. I wouldn't give up on a guy like that on my team, that's for sure. I'd also be willing to bet that the guys in the room have been supportive of him as well.
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Post by Meshuggah66 on Jun 10, 2021 20:24:30 GMT
On another note, theres no way Id protect Coyle. That contract is just too much money. I sincerely doubt the Kraken would take him either, so it opens another spot to protect someone else
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Post by shuperman on Jun 10, 2021 21:13:27 GMT
On another note, theres no way Id protect Coyle. That contract is just too much money. I sincerely doubt the Kraken would take him either, so it opens another spot to protect someone else Nope he wouldnt be protected. At this point id have a hard time finding 7 fwds to protect.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jun 10, 2021 22:39:37 GMT
Im not giving up on Grz. Sure he made some mistakes, some bad plays, but he's a real good player, and seems to be a good person. I wouldn't give up on a guy like that on my team, that's for sure. I'd also be willing to bet that the guys in the room have been supportive of him as well. Grzelcyk will have himself an excellent NHL career. Did a great job to come up from where he was drafted. But he cannot handle high pressure two man forecheck moments. His mishandling of the puck when with no one on him were horrible at times. No pressure. Got burned on coverage as well. On Coyle the Bs have no centers except for Studnicka under the ages of Bergeron and Krejci. Go look at the center market. O'Reilly will cost too much in trade.
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Post by Meshuggah66 on Jun 10, 2021 23:23:20 GMT
My comments on Grz were a bit more directed at all the negativity towards him. I think it was too much. He had some bad plays, most notably in the last 2 games, but he's also had great games. Hes just not in the dump pile for me.
Coyle I still wouldn't protect. They won't take him, but even if they did, yeah give Stud a shot. Frederics a C. There may not be a FA or trade available now, but there probably will be later. I guess Id rather have a ? at 3c than a guys who's overpaid by 2M+ signed for 5 more years.
If the Kraken take him, they'd be doing us a favor. Nothing against the player, just his contract.
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