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Post by dannycater on Jul 29, 2023 3:14:52 GMT
If only we had the pre-pandemic BadHab, who is my favorite poster because he doesn't give a shit what others think...almost a voice of reason here
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Post by #4 Bobby Orr! GOAT! on Jul 29, 2023 12:59:55 GMT
I think you’re all fucked Danny
Trade Grizz already
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 29, 2023 14:57:57 GMT
been reported there are some issues with Bourque and the Bruins. anyone have any info? That was the Harry Sinden days. Harry always went public with salary negotiations and IMO was trying to shame players into taking less dough. This backfired when it came to Bourque as everyone thought it sleazy to nickel and dime Ray as it was at that point. Harry caved, some bitter sentiment at least by fans. I don't think that was the crux of it. I think it was the way Harry then used him as the salary cap for everyone else on the team. Are you better than Ray? No? Then why should i pay you more than he accepted? I think Ray hated that implication that he would be put out by it, and definitely hated the pressure he then got about having hurt other players by not taking the Bruina to the woodshed.
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Post by dezaruchi on Jul 29, 2023 22:38:44 GMT
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Post by nitelite on Jul 30, 2023 1:33:06 GMT
conflicted on this. so many, virtually all, love the game so much...they stay as long as possible. I respect that. doing it on your terms? not so much. Don't really see the valor in that logic. other than stroking ones own sense of power...whats the upside? i don't appreciate waste either. 37 wasn't some hanger-on, looking to make enough to take himself from financially comfortable...to filthy rich. Bergeron was still an elite hockey player by any sensible standard. so many would run over grandma to have the opportunity, he's passing on. but it's also his choice, not anyone elses. screw the fans, they aren't entitled to another season of Bergy. all in all, i've lost a little respect for 37 though. since he's plenty good enough, imo, there should be a brighter fire burning than last year at this time. he's pissing on the Gods, that bestowed upon him, the amazing opportunity to still be doing this, at the highest level.something the locals may be interested in too. I think tuuka makes his home in boston, as does chara, bourque, Orr. many of the icons have, and it says something bigger than their press releases about the community. will PB hang around? always been a big 37 fan, but there are others in the recent era, that are equals to me. DK, probably been my #1 over the last 20 years, simply because he always got more criticism. Like Patrice, I admired his understated persona. chara was right there as an equal too, because of his determination. for me, it was always something above the game, that cemented the player attachment for me. having said all that, I completely understood DK's decision to go home. Made so much sense to me, as it was the opposite of selfish. I love that he came back for peanuts. I really didn't expect that. but he's plenty good enough right now too....and if....like Bergeron...decides another 6 months of this entitled dream-world, is more bother than the millions are worth......I'll lose some respect for him too. He'll be pissing on the Gods also. Chara turned his life, completely inside out...for the chance to "competitively"...play competitive hockey at the highest level. Despite the easy route.... of armchairing his way out(he certainly could have got 2 more years in with the Bruins, had he been content being the designated 7th D) I absolutely admire that determination, and willingness to take the hard route. If he comes back...DK will be the go-to C. Should be lots to get excited about there. If he doesn't....? There isn't much question about the PB, DK era. the Bruins have been about the best team in the league overall, but they've under delivered when it comes to the top prize. Too many players, too interested in "their own terms"....their entitled lives, could be "a" reason. maybe not. sad day. steve, you are incredible...the guy was a Golden God, I criticized him for end of season/playoffs--rushing back and forcing his way into lineup....but his retirement is after nearly 2 decades of hockey...go fuck yourself with that comment. Pathetic. Respect is what he earned, respect is what he deserves, and in retiring today, respect should be what B's fans give him. Period. Yea old steveo showed ABSOLUTELY ZERO CLASS & his true colors here! What a dickhead! For EVERYTHING that Bergeron did, the injuries he played thru, never took a night off with his effort! The man deserves to retire while he isn't completely crippled FFS & the ability to play with his growing family healthy! Fuck you Steve!!
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Post by nitelite on Jul 30, 2023 1:34:16 GMT
"doing it on your terms? not so much. Don't really see the valor in that logic. other than stroking ones own sense of power...whats the upside? i don't appreciate waste either. 37 wasn't some hanger-on, looking to make enough to take himself from financially comfortable...to filthy rich. Bergeron was still an elite hockey player by any sensible standard. so many would run over grandma to have the opportunity, he's passing on. all in all, i've lost a little respect for 37 though. since he's plenty good enough, imo, there should be a brighter fire burning than last year at this time. he's pissing on the Gods, that bestowed upon him, the amazing opportunity to still be doing this, at the highest level." Lighten up Francis. Go fawkyourself you disrespectful POS!
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 30, 2023 1:57:21 GMT
Bergy, the hard working humble 2 way player that he was personified the Bruins, he was the face of the organization. Easy to pick him for that C after Chara. No easy choice now. Saw some on Twitter saying that if it's not Marchand it is a slap in the face. I think that's bullshit and it's probably not a great idea to have a Captain who spears goalies when he gets cranky.
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Post by dezaruchi on Jul 30, 2023 2:34:14 GMT
Bergy, the hard working humble 2 way player that he was personified the Bruins, he was the face of the organization. Easy to pick him for that C after Chara. No easy choice now. Saw some on Twitter saying that if it's not Marchand it is a slap in the face. I think that's bullshit and it's probably not a great idea to have a Captain who spears goalies when he gets cranky. I feel like he's less likely to behave like that if he's wearing the C.
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Post by davinator on Jul 30, 2023 2:43:40 GMT
"doing it on your terms? not so much. Don't really see the valor in that logic. other than stroking ones own sense of power...whats the upside? i don't appreciate waste either. 37 wasn't some hanger-on, looking to make enough to take himself from financially comfortable...to filthy rich. Bergeron was still an elite hockey player by any sensible standard. so many would run over grandma to have the opportunity, he's passing on. all in all, i've lost a little respect for 37 though. since he's plenty good enough, imo, there should be a brighter fire burning than last year at this time. he's pissing on the Gods, that bestowed upon him, the amazing opportunity to still be doing this, at the highest level." Lighten up Francis. Go fawkyourself you disrespectful POS! Welcome back nitelite!
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Post by islamorada on Jul 30, 2023 11:37:25 GMT
Bergy, the hard working humble 2 way player that he was personified the Bruins, he was the face of the organization. Easy to pick him for that C after Chara. No easy choice now. Saw some on Twitter saying that if it's not Marchand it is a slap in the face. I think that's bullshit and it's probably not a great idea to have a Captain who spears goalies when he gets cranky. I think he is capable of being a captain. Age, experience, and a quick wit is an advantage on ice when official clarification is needed. In public he is equally capable of handling the questions from the media. I do also think Marchand would not be offended if a younger player was chosen. Marchand knows of the role he plays with the players on the team without a badge of being a captain. He is respected for his type of game, on the edge. Both Pasta and McAvoy are ready for leadership if needed. Leadership is by committee when all is said and done.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jul 30, 2023 14:58:38 GMT
Saw some on Twitter saying that if it's not Marchand it is a slap in the face. I think that's bullshit and it's probably not a great idea to have a Captain who spears goalies when he gets cranky. I think he is capable of being a captain. Age, experience, and a quick wit is an advantage on ice when official clarification is needed. In public he is equally capable of handling the questions from the media. I do also think Marchand would not be offended if a younger player was chosen. Marchand knows of the role he plays with the players on the team without a badge of being a captain. He is respected for his type of game, on the edge. Both Pasta and McAvoy are ready for leadership if needed. Leadership is by committee when all is said and done. B’S management should talk to Marchy first to make sure things are kosher, but rather than having to rename another captain in a few years again, the B’S should give it right away to Chuckie…. Just like I have no doubt that Marchy would make a good captain, I also think that he’d understand the B’S decision…. Don’t necessarily need to wear the “C” to be a leader….
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 30, 2023 16:18:31 GMT
When Toronto and Montreal fans want to discuss prospects Boston passed on. Re-Drafts will show Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak and Lucic.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 30, 2023 16:38:49 GMT
When Toronto and Montreal fans want to discuss prospects Boston passed on. Re-Drafts will show Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak and Lucic. Fataboy, too.
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Post by nitelite on Jul 30, 2023 22:57:08 GMT
Only reason I lose respect is the never-ending uncertainty. If he was going to retire, he should have decided before the draft so Sweeney could be free to make any moves that may have presented themselves. DK too for that matter. This whole sitting on the fence for the entire off-season thing is maddening and I don't understand why Sweeney lets it happen. I can't say this often enough. Sweeney was not ever restricted in terms of the moves he could make by Bergeron's indecision. Never. Not once. Nor DK. If Sweeney did anything other than proceed to make the best moves available to him to improve his hockey club, it's on him. Any competent executive would make the moves needed and then adjust if Bergeron decided to come back. The money has never been identified as an issue. It would be easy for them to find a way to make his money fit. If they acquired a C and Bergeron came back, both Zacha and Coyle are capable of adjusting to life on the wing. Losing respect for Bergeron because he made US wait for HIS life-altering decision makes no sense to me. 1000% & anyone who bitches & whines about like Steve is the one with the the fucking problem PERIOD! The guy had a right to retire 2 seasons ago if he wanted. Very few gave the body & time up for his team, community & fans the way Bergeron did! Anyone who blast the guy for retiring because he wants to be healthy enough to do all that he wants for himself & family & do it before his body is completely broken down is 1000% legit reasoning! Anyone who doesn't see that is one selfish individual! Steve is completely out of line with his attitude!
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 30, 2023 23:08:15 GMT
When Toronto and Montreal fans want to discuss prospects Boston passed on. Re-Drafts will show Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak and Lucic. Fataboy, too. Thinking more about Fatavoy, I think there are a lot of teals kicking themselves. That was Matthews and Matthew and Laine in the top 10, but it was also PLD and Pullyerjaarvi. Fox, Bratt and DeBrincat all went later and would-be first rounders now but DeBrincat is the only one you would say was passed over. If you redrafted the first rounders, i think it goes Buston, Tkachuk, Thompson, McAvoy, Laine.
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 30, 2023 23:11:40 GMT
Idle Sunday evening thought....
Brady "unretired".
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Post by islamorada on Jul 30, 2023 23:27:34 GMT
Bergeron will stay retired, although the thought occurred not so if the sole reason for retirement was the herniated disc.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jul 30, 2023 23:38:13 GMT
Thinking more about Fatavoy, I think there are a lot of teals kicking themselves. That was Matthews and Matthew and Laine in the top 10, but it was also PLD and Pullyerjaarvi. Fox, Bratt and DeBrincat all went later and would-be first rounders now but DeBrincat is the only one you would say was passed over. If you redrafted the first rounders, i think it goes Buston, Tkachuk, Thompson, McAvoy, Laine. Revisiting can be done in every draft in history…. Find me a first round that went down as it should have been scripted….
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jul 30, 2023 23:46:16 GMT
Bergeron will stay retired, although the thought occurred not so if the sole reason for retirement was the herniated disc. Pretty sure a heady guy like Bergy had been mulling retirement for a while…. The disc injury was probably the last check in reasons to call it quits….. Healthy or not, highly doubt Bergy pulls a Brady….
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 31, 2023 11:13:37 GMT
Thinking more about Fatavoy, I think there are a lot of teals kicking themselves. That was Matthews and Matthew and Laine in the top 10, but it was also PLD and Pullyerjaarvi. Fox, Bratt and DeBrincat all went later and would-be first rounders now but DeBrincat is the only one you would say was passed over. If you redrafted the first rounders, i think it goes Buston, Tkachuk, Thompson, McAvoy, Laine. Revisiting can be done in every draft in history…. Find me a first round that went down as it should have been scripted…. Sure, but i think this started with the idea that the Bruins somehow always pass on good players for bums. Lots of wins in the draft for the black and gold, too, starting with #45 in 2003.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Jul 31, 2023 12:36:37 GMT
Revisiting can be done in every draft in history…. Find me a first round that went down as it should have been scripted…. Sure, but i think this started with the idea that the Bruins somehow always pass on good players for bums. Lots of wins in the draft for the black and gold, too, starting with #45 in 2003. The ‘79 draft has to be my favourite when Uncle Harry plucked this d-man from Quebec after teams ahead of the B’S chose the likes of Rob Ramage, Mike Foligno, Mike Gartner, Rick Vaive, and Craig Hartsburg…. All except Foligno had played the previous season in the WHA as underagers…. Wonder had that kid the B’S chose also played a year in the WHA if he would’ve still been around at #8…. Too bad Uncle Harry couldn’t make another steal later in round one and missed on another kid from Quebec, Michel Goulet….
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Post by bookboy007 on Jul 31, 2023 13:03:41 GMT
Sure, but i think this started with the idea that the Bruins somehow always pass on good players for bums. Lots of wins in the draft for the black and gold, too, starting with #45 in 2003. The ‘79 draft has to be my favourite when Uncle Harry plucked this d-man from Quebec after teams ahead of the B’S chose the likes of Rob Ramage, Mike Foligno, Mike Gartner, Rick Vaive, and Craig Hartsburg…. All except Foligno had played the previous season in the WHA as underagers…. Wonder had that kid the B’S chose also played a year in the WHA if he would’ve still been around at #8…. Too bad Uncle Harry couldn’t make another steal later in round one and missed on another kid from Quebec, Michel Goulet…. I don't think Washington loses too much sleep on Gartner, and Vaive had 50 one year. Bourque was clearly the better player over his career, but it's not a massive whiff. Even Foligno and Hartsburg had good careers. Just...not Ray's level. Looking at that 2016 class, Carolina went D one pick ahead of the Bruins and took...Jake Bean. First D taken was Juolevi. Oops. Puljerjaarvi went where he was supposed to according to all the experts. Nope. Nylander (Alex), Brown, Jost, McLeod all not much to write home about. Keller and Sergachev have been very good, but I would take Fatavoy ahead of either.
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Post by bruins6 on Jul 31, 2023 13:41:41 GMT
When Toronto and Montreal fans want to discuss prospects Boston passed on. Re-Drafts will show Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak and Lucic. Bergys brother had told me the Habs met with him before the draft - Andre Savard was off in a corner reading a newspaper and they told Patrice he was in their sights as a 4th rounder - pissed Bergy off to say the least
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Post by Lord Markwart on Jul 31, 2023 13:42:23 GMT
I know this is off-topic but it would be nice to see how a Fatavoy & Lindholm tandem do if healthy for the whole season and playoffs. I cannot think of a better tandem in the NHL that can play both ways and do it all including the physicality. This is one reason why the Bruins can succeed and go far without a true #1 center even if the goaltending is less awesome.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Jul 31, 2023 13:48:21 GMT
When Toronto and Montreal fans want to discuss prospects Boston passed on. Re-Drafts will show Bergeron, Krejci, Marchand, Pastrnak and Lucic. Bergys brother had told me the Habs met with him before the draft - Andre Savard was off in a corner reading a newspaper and they told Patrice he was in their sights as a 4th rounder - pissed Bergy off to say the least In a sense, reminds of, how the Yankees scout pissed of Carl Yastrzemski dad. Thank you bafoons!
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