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Post by thanx4memORRies on Dec 3, 2023 19:51:26 GMT
Stephane Richer. I was so pi**ed when I saw the B's picked him up in 93. How could they do this? Then I found out it was the OTHER Stephane Richer..... Considering the ex-Shab helped the Devils eliminate the B’S on a few occasions, maybe the B’S acquired the wrong Richer….
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Post by jmwalters on Dec 3, 2023 23:16:53 GMT
Stephane Richer. I was so pi**ed when I saw the B's picked him up in 93. How could they do this? Then I found out it was the OTHER Stephane Richer..... Considering the ex-Shab helped the Devils eliminate the B’S on a few occasions, maybe the B’S acquired the wrong Richer…. Very good point.
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Post by tomobrien on Dec 5, 2023 17:43:44 GMT
I have one more...Jeff Odgers OMG what a waste of DNA! I think if you just looked at him, his face would start bleeding.
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Post by mdsizzle on Dec 6, 2023 15:39:07 GMT
I have one more...Jeff Odgers OMG what a waste of DNA! I think if you just looked at him, his face would start bleeding. OH man, I almost forgot about that guy.
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Post by dannycater on Dec 6, 2023 15:53:25 GMT
Now my favorite short-term B's Satan (playoff sensation)! Bertuzzi (only playoff version)! Gonchar! Iafrate! Orlov (not playoff version)! Johanssen (playoff sensation)! and of course the short career of Leveille
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Post by schlich on Dec 6, 2023 16:31:20 GMT
Now my favorite short-term B's Satan (playoff sensation)! Bertuzzi (only playoff version)! Gonchar! Iafrate! Orlov (not playoff version)! Johanssen (playoff sensation)! and of course the short career of Leveille I loved Iafrate. I was in Washington during his best years. He was the best player on those teams. Boston…not so much
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Post by fiberglassmask on Dec 6, 2023 16:48:49 GMT
Favorite short term Bruin: Jacques Plante. Watching him in a Bruins’ uniform was simply jarring, like a high school team borrowed the local college teams starter for a scrimmage game and they couldnt find a jersey big enough for him… he always looked “on loan,” lol.
That said, he was brilliant in his short regular season stint as a Bruin. Unfortunately that did not translate to that season’s short-series opening round of the playoffs. I can think of other Bruins’ goalies that started off cold in a playoff series who had a chance to work out the kinks… no time for that then.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Dec 6, 2023 17:57:16 GMT
Now my favorite short-term B's Satan (playoff sensation)! Bertuzzi (only playoff version)! Gonchar! Iafrate! Orlov (not playoff version)! Johanssen (playoff sensation)! and of course the short career of Leveille I loved Iafrate. I was in Washington during his best years. He was the best player on those teams. Boston…not so much Had a great playoff against Montreal in 94'. But that was all she wrote.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2023 17:57:29 GMT
I think this breaks down into a few categories:
1. Guys you hated when they played against the Bruins who could be rehabbed if they played as well in Black and Gold; 2. Guys who were embarrassing in Black and Gold; 3. Ex-Shabs.
There aren't many in category one for me. I never hated guys like Ryder or Gonchar or Tocchet. Brian Leetch is on that list for me, as is Paul Coffey. Cynical attempts to make up for the loss of Ray by signing aged out former Norris players. Neither had the legs left to do the rehab part. GTFO.
There's a long list for category two, including some pseudo goons like Odgers and Nazarov, and also some guys who history has softened like Marty Lapointe. There's a big cluster from about 1995-2005. Guys who I had pegged as loser talents who ended up on the Bruins and were part of riding the wave to the bottom...twice. Todd Elik. Tim Sweeney. Vincent Riendeau. Jeff Jillson. Alexei Kasatonov. Grant Ledyard - I had a real hate on for Ledyard. Some in the '80s. This is also the category where I'd put guys others have mentioned who were an embarrassment to the Spoked B for other reasons like Kristich and Brad Stuart. Near the top of that list for me is Brian Propp. He never seemed to want to be a Bruin, and he was utterly ineffective despite half decent numbers in the playoffs. Especially in the Final - 0-0-0 and -4 in 5 games.
Then there are the ex-Shabs. Nilan, Naslund, and especially Jeff Hackett. No. There's no way any of these players should have played for the Bruins.
Interesting as well to think about players who you never want to see play for the Bruins, especially those who could have had circumstances been different. My dislike for acquiring scoring stars from loser teams is well known. So I have a laundry list of those guys. I'm glad they've never swung a deal for Eberle, for example, and I'm glad their dalliance with Hall didn't cost them more than it did. Pleased that Ryan Kesler was never a Bruin, or Bieksa.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2023 17:58:35 GMT
I loved Iafrate. I was in Washington during his best years. He was the best player on those teams. Boston…not so much Had a great playoff against Montreal in 94'. But that was all she wrote. He wasn't the best player in Boston because Ray was...but in terms of points/hits/impact plays per working joint, I think he's right up there.
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Post by seobrien on Dec 6, 2023 19:55:54 GMT
Chris Nilan, hated that mofo...then he was a B...still hated that mofo..but I think I hated Claude Lemieux more Nilan all the way. Was in the old Garden and was one of the few people that actually watched him butt end Nifty in the mouth behind the play. Maybe 10% of the people saw it happen. 100% of the people saw the blood and chicklet aftermath though. Worst thing though was Nilan acting like "What? I didn't do anything" Hated that untalented goon then and I hated him as a B. He was a vicious punk then and he's a CTE riddled old punk now.
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Post by badhabitude on Dec 6, 2023 20:17:08 GMT
For me, Dennis Wideman.
Dennis had the PERFECT ability to deflate a team. And its one of those things that you only really felt if you were in the building.
On more than one game that I attended - the Bruins would be doing everything right and humming right along. And at the perfect moment Wideman would make a totally stupid ass pass that resulted in the other guys getting a seriously good scoring opportunity when they had nothing going. And suddenly it was like all the oxygen got sucked out of the garden, crowd would get quiet, momentum totally killed, barometer dropped.
And he was a pretty good player, but those brain farts were ear shattering loud and stinky enough that homeland security got called because they thought chemical weapons were being used.
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Post by badhabitude on Dec 6, 2023 20:31:56 GMT
Hot ex-girlfriends. Yeah, they were hot, but she was still a total bitch.
Guys that were good, BUT. In general guys like this don't win cups. Both these guys won cups, but a big "BUT" attached.
Tyler Seguin - yeah, he had a good playoff run, but I think the only time in his career that he showed some gumption. And he was new so the other guys didn't make a point of giving him a good hard tag. After the cup run they figured him out. AND Sean Thornton famously slapped him around
Phil Kessel - if the other guys didn't have Crosby and Malkin to worry about, would he have been as successful?
Joe Thornton - never showed that he had that extra gear. Never ever looked looked he was working hard. Player who is the all time champion far and above all others whose accomplishments far exceeded appearance.
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Post by dannycater on Dec 6, 2023 20:51:39 GMT
For me, Dennis Wideman. Dennis had the PERFECT ability to deflate a team. And its one of those things that you only really felt if you were in the building. On more than one game that I attended - the Bruins would be doing everything right and humming right along. And at the perfect moment Wideman would make a totally stupid ass pass that resulted in the other guys getting a seriously good scoring opportunity when they had nothing going. And suddenly it was like all the oxygen got sucked out of the garden, crowd would get quiet, momentum totally killed, barometer dropped. And he was a pretty good player, but those brain farts were ear shattering loud and stinky enough that homeland security got called because they thought chemical weapons were being used. For a while, he was actually pretty damn good...then one day, he turned into a carwreck, a Gryz v. the Islanders elimination game like. I had the same thoughts about Dennis WideberthtotheB'snet...but I didnt hate him, and I rooted for him, and I didn't hate him elsewhere. He just became a disaster that last season as B
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Post by sandogbrewin on Dec 6, 2023 22:37:13 GMT
Had a great playoff against Montreal in 94'. But that was all she wrote. He wasn't the best player in Boston because Ray Guy Carbonneauwas...but in terms of points/hits/impact plays per working joint, I think he's right up there. Iafrate on two good knees in Boston with Ray would have been epic. 1st game against the Habs in the 94' playoffs he nailed Damphousse and Carbonneau on the same shift.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2023 22:48:24 GMT
Hot ex-girlfriends. Yeah, they were hot, but she was still a total bitch. Guys that were good, BUT. In general guys like this don't win cups. Both these guys won cups, but a big "BUT" attached. Tyler Seguin - yeah, he had a good playoff run, but I think the only time in his career that he showed some gumption. And he was new so the other guys didn't make a point of giving him a good hard tag. After the cup run they figured him out. AND Sean Thornton famously slapped him around Phil Kessel - if the other guys didn't have Crosby and Malkin to worry about, would he have been as successful? Joe Thornton - never showed that he had that extra gear. Never ever looked looked he was working hard. Player who is the all time champion far and above all others whose accomplishments far exceeded appearance. The "dude, I KNOW she's hot, but believe me...she ain't worth it!" list. Then there's the "I woulda hit that but I was too drunk!" list. The guys who almost played in Boston but didn't and so now some people act like they're Florida 10. Barzal. Chabot. DeBrincat. Those are the easy ones to remember. And I'm on the fence on whether or not Bellows fits here. His best year, he topped 50 goals and had 99 points. And he was -3. And that only made him the 14th highest scorer in the league, 18th if you count points/game. His 88 point year was good for 34rd. Good goal scorer, good career, part of Montreal's fluke Cup in 93. But the crying about him has been loud for a long time and in retrospect...meh. If Kluzak had had good knees, it wouldn't be a big deal.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 6, 2023 22:49:36 GMT
He wasn't the best player in Boston because Ray Guy Carbonneauwas...but in terms of points/hits/impact plays per working joint, I think he's right up there. Iafrate on two good knees in Boston with Ray would have been epic. 1st game against the Habs in the 94' playoffs he nailed Damphousse and Carbonneau on the same shift. I'm pretty sure HoF punter Ray Guy never played hockey.
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Post by dannycater on Dec 7, 2023 0:39:39 GMT
Iafrate on two good knees in Boston with Ray would have been epic. 1st game against the Habs in the 94' playoffs he nailed Damphousse and Carbonneau on the same shift. I'm pretty sure HoF punter Ray Guy never played hockey. Carbonnneau was the other Guy in Habtown
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Post by sandogbrewin on Dec 7, 2023 3:37:38 GMT
Iafrate on two good knees in Boston with Ray would have been epic. 1st game against the Habs in the 94' playoffs he nailed Damphousse and Carbonneau on the same shift. I'm pretty sure HoF punter Ray Guy never played hockey. But I "Ray" Bourque would have been a helluva punter in the NFL. Oh I can just hear Facenda now...
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Post by asmaha on Dec 11, 2023 0:06:12 GMT
I mean....Zac Rinaldo. The worst.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Dec 11, 2023 0:11:10 GMT
For me, Dennis Wideman. Dennis had the PERFECT ability to deflate a team. And its one of those things that you only really felt if you were in the building. On more than one game that I attended - the Bruins would be doing everything right and humming right along. And at the perfect moment Wideman would make a totally stupid ass pass that resulted in the other guys getting a seriously good scoring opportunity when they had nothing going. And suddenly it was like all the oxygen got sucked out of the garden, crowd would get quiet, momentum totally killed, barometer dropped. And he was a pretty good player, but those brain farts were ear shattering loud and stinky enough that homeland security got called because they thought chemical weapons were being used. For a while, he was actually pretty damn good...then one day, he turned into a carwreck, a Gryz v. the Islanders elimination game like. I had the same thoughts about Dennis WideberthtotheB'snet...but I didnt hate him, and I rooted for him, and I didn't hate him elsewhere. He just became a disaster that last season as B Wides was a total different player from regular season to the post-season in 2010. I mean he was phenomenal against Buffalo in the 1st round. And he helped the Bs get Horton gives a Woo so I'm ok with Widemans time in Boston.
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Post by nitelite on Dec 11, 2023 2:54:11 GMT
Petr Skudra, Vincent Riendeau, Tim Chelvadea & Craig Billington is like fingernails across a fucking chalkboard to me!! Then when Jon Casey decided he wanted to skate out & poke check everyone who came on a breakaway against NJ made me detest the Andy Moog trade!
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Post by sandogbrewin on Dec 11, 2023 12:25:07 GMT
I have one more...Jeff Odgers OMG what a waste of DNA! I think if you just looked at him, his face would start bleeding. Remember the Bruins pretty much outwardly bragging Odgers and Mallette would make Boston toigher. At least Troy had one memorable thing about his brief stay in Boston. Cold cocking Baron!
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Post by fiberglassmask on Dec 11, 2023 15:53:51 GMT
I think this breaks down into a few categories: 1. Guys you hated when they played against the Bruins who could be rehabbed if they played as well in Black and Gold; 2. Guys who were embarrassing in Black and Gold; 3. Ex-Shabs. . I think there’s also the guys that might have had their great moments but were just so smarmy and annoying that I just couldn’t stand them. I’d lead that club with Tim Thomas & Joe Thornton. Thomas was douchey spaz who alternated between giving up the worst goals in the NHL this side of Fleury vs Philly, and making the biggest highlight reel saves punctuated with the most unnecessary acting-it-up acrobatic out-of-position nonsense. He could get hot and uninformed fans loved the jumping bean show and he managed to win the 4 Finals games that the Bs scored 7 goals for him in, so there’s that. But he was a whiny sourpuss who never met an excuse he didn’t like or a teammate he couldn’t blame. And that selfish childish White House routine was the last straw.. Then there was Jumbo No, the no back checking playoffs disappearing man whose had more Cs stripped from his jersey than championships. The best thing about The Hobo was the trade chasing him out of town resulted in bringing in the best Captain and leader the Bs have ever had, culminating in a Cup. Thanks Joe; fuck off.
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Post by bookboy007 on Dec 11, 2023 16:17:10 GMT
I think this breaks down into a few categories: 1. Guys you hated when they played against the Bruins who could be rehabbed if they played as well in Black and Gold; 2. Guys who were embarrassing in Black and Gold; 3. Ex-Shabs. . I think there’s also the guys that might have had their great moments but were just so smarmy and annoying that I just couldn’t stand them. I’d lead that club with Tim Thomas & Joe Thornton. Thomas was douchey spaz who alternated between giving up the worst goals in the NHL this side of Fleury vs Philly, and making the biggest highlight reel saves punctuated with the most unnecessary acting-it-up acrobatic out-of-position nonsense. He could get hot and uninformed fans loved the jumping bean show and he managed to win the 4 Finals games that the Bs scored 7 goals for him in, so there’s that. But he was a whiny sourpuss who never met an excuse he didn’t like or a teammate he couldn’t blame. And that selfish childish White House routine was the last straw.. Then there was Jumbo No, the no back checking playoffs disappearing man whose had more Cs stripped from his jersey than championships. The best thing about The Hobo was the trade chasing him out of town resulted in bringing in the best Captain and leader the Bs have ever had, culminating in a Cup. Thanks Joe; fuck off. I am not as anti Timmy as you, but that may be because "I have a pretty good idea of how to play goal in this league and I'm not taking any advice at this time" is maybe the best goalie press conference line ever. Just ahead of "I couldn't hear what Jeremy said because I had my Stanley Cup rings in ears."
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