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Post by dannycater on Apr 4, 2024 16:51:49 GMT
let's not just let Sway off the hook here..the guy was down 2-0, the B's took a 3-2 lead, they had a minute remaining. He could not stop the tying goal and he surrended the winner in OT--albeit sure guys were backing up around him, but still he had just as good as chance as Bobro of making enough saves to win. Tired of this weird fascination about how "bad" Ullmark was--he was hurt and that's on the coaches, but Sway still could have come through..and he didn't. I actually thought Ulmark played okay for the most part but the OT giveaway was the defining play of the series. Swayman has no place in that equation. In fact, I bet he was prepared to go full "Huggy Bear" on Linus right up until then but I think it would have been too awkward to do it after that. Also what I find funny is the B's lost in the first round, but they weren't up 3-0 in games, they weren't up 3-0 in the 7th game...that was 2010...and that was the most horrific collapse, regardless of losing DK via Philly intentional injury...but time and history seem to play tricks on people. Hell, 2019 was just as tough to swallow, but in that game they fell behind after throwing kitchen sink at Binnington in 1st period.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 4, 2024 17:07:53 GMT
Ya, I forgive him too... I blame Bob mostly for letting a struggling Linus stay out there waaaay to long and going to an ice cold Sway in desperation. Hey Sway, peel that bench off your ass and come win a game fucking 7! Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb! let's not just let Sway off the hook here..the guy was down 2-0, the B's took a 3-2 lead, they had a minute remaining. He could not stop the tying goal and he surrended the winner in OT--albeit sure guys were backing up around him, but still he had just as good as chance as Bobro of making enough saves to win. Tired of this weird fascination about how "bad" Ullmark was--he was hurt and that's on the coaches, but Sway still could have come through..and he didn't. A cold Sway kept the B’S in the game until the rest received the wake up call midway through the second period…. As for the late game tying goal, the other five on the ice deserve just as much blame for running around like the Keystone Kops…. And if Monty decides to go with Linus to begin the playoffs, let’s hope Sway won’t need to be called upon for a third time to clean up after Linus….
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 17:27:19 GMT
I actually thought Ulmark played okay for the most part but the OT giveaway was the defining play of the series. Swayman has no place in that equation. In fact, I bet he was prepared to go full "Huggy Bear" on Linus right up until then but I think it would have been too awkward to do it after that. Also what I find funny is the B's lost in the first round, but they weren't up 3-0 in games, they weren't up 3-0 in the 7th game...that was 2010...and that was the most horrific collapse, regardless of losing DK via Philly intentional injury...but time and history seem to play tricks on people. Hell, 2019 was just as tough to swallow, but in that game they fell behind after throwing kitchen sink at Binnington in 1st period. Depends on where you set your scope. If you step back from the game or the series to the season as a whole, I think 2010 is slightly less disappointing. They were a 5th place team in the East who only managed to make it to the second round because they made a last minute deal with Satan, who was awesome in beating his old team in round one. But that year, the Bruins had no offense to speak of. Sturm was their only guy with 20 plus goals (22). Bergeron and Krejci led the team with 52 points. They don't get a sniff of the playoffs if they don't get sub-2.00 goaltending from Tuukka, especially with Thomas battling injury. It was giddy to watch them score their way to 5-3 and 4-3 wins. Then they get up on the Flyers, and it started to feel team of destiny-ish. Then it didn't. Or it did, but in all the wrong ways. Would that mojo have lasted through a series against the Scabs with a berth in the Final on the line? Would they have been able to overcome Chicago? And does 2011 play out differently if they don't get that cold dose of pain in 2010? Hard to say. In '71, they were just so good. Espo's career year in goals. Orr with his only 100+ assist season and career year in points. Chief's only 50 goal year. 7 of the top 10 scorers that year in front of a great goaltending duo. Games 2 and 6 hurt. 15 goals against in two games. The offense hurt them in games 3 and 7 - though you could say that was Dryden. They finished 12 points up on the second place Rangers, 24 up on Montreal. Expectations should have been high. Same argument for last year. Best year in team history, league history, in the RS. Adams winner, Vezina winner, Hart Finalist, Selke winner, 4th place Norris finish for Lindholm, 18th for McAvoy. 22 points better than second place Carolina. Then the coach makes inexplicable lineup decisions, the Vezina winner plays through injury and looks average, the Selke winner goes -6, the D look lost, and everyone blames Grz. 2019 is a whole different question. That one will always hurt because it seemed like the red sea parted. Tampans lost to the BJs after their historic season. BJs had nothing left against Boston. Carolina couldn't score. Blues had been the worst team in the league a few months earlier. Here, have a ring. That it came down to Game 7 and that they lost that game after looking like they were going to assert their dominance? It was an incredible reversal of fortune.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 4, 2024 17:32:07 GMT
So you're saying we should commit suicide as B's fans
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 17:35:51 GMT
let's not just let Sway off the hook here..the guy was down 2-0, the B's took a 3-2 lead, they had a minute remaining. He could not stop the tying goal and he surrended the winner in OT--albeit sure guys were backing up around him, but still he had just as good as chance as Bobro of making enough saves to win. Tired of this weird fascination about how "bad" Ullmark was--he was hurt and that's on the coaches, but Sway still could have come through..and he didn't. A cold Sway kept the B’S in the game until the rest received the wake up call midway through the second period…. As for the late game tying goal, the other five on the ice deserve just as much blame for running around like the Keystone Kops…. And if Monty decides to go with Linus to begin the playoffs, let’s hope Sway won’t need to be called upon for a third time to clean up after Linus…. Ouch. True enough, but ouch. This is the reality of the goalie situation going into this playoffs. It's not a strong case for any course of action except maybe seeing what Bussi can do. Career playoff Stats: Swayman - 8 games, 6 starts, 3-4, .901s%, 2.79 GAA Ullmark - 8 games, 8 starts, 3-5, .888s% and 3.54 GAA. That absolutely cannot continue. I don't care if they go with one guy until he gives up 4 goals in a game and then they burn him on a ritual pyre, feed the smoke of his burning soul to the gods and then feast on him pre-game...that's can't continue.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 17:36:43 GMT
So you're saying we should commit suicide as B's fans Nah. I'm saying life is suffering, and most Bruins fans live hard, play hard.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 17:37:57 GMT
So you're saying we should commit suicide as B's fans Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 4, 2024 17:41:25 GMT
So you're saying we should commit suicide as B's fans Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. There's always the Leafs when it comes to the Looking on the Bright Side of Life....da-do-da-do
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Post by dezaruchi on Apr 4, 2024 18:15:23 GMT
So you're saying we should commit suicide as B's fans Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all.
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 20:39:18 GMT
Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all. Yeah, it really changes the conversation when you look at the world with post 1979 glasses. Basically since the merger. Montreal is 2-1 in the Finals since then. The Bruins have been there five times...but are just 1-4. Montreal's missed the playoffs 12 times in that stretch, the Bruins 7 times. We can't use that as an excuse to get up in their grills - it's still 2-1 in Cups - but it's a lot harder to steer a conversation to "we have two Cups to your one in the last 44 years!" with any kind of verve.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 4, 2024 21:39:33 GMT
Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all. Yeah, it really changes the conversation when you look at the world with post 1979 glasses. Basically since the merger. Montreal is 2-1 in the Finals since then. The Bruins have been there five times...but are just 1-4. Montreal's missed the playoffs 12 times in that stretch, the Bruins 7 times. We can't use that as an excuse to get up in their grills - it's still 2-1 in Cups - but it's a lot harder to steer a conversation to "we have two Cups to your one in the last 44 years!" with any kind of verve. Actually the Shabs are 2-2 in the finals since ‘79….
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Post by bookboy007 on Apr 4, 2024 22:37:16 GMT
Yeah, it really changes the conversation when you look at the world with post 1979 glasses. Basically since the merger. Montreal is 2-1 in the Finals since then. The Bruins have been there five times...but are just 1-4. Montreal's missed the playoffs 12 times in that stretch, the Bruins 7 times. We can't use that as an excuse to get up in their grills - it's still 2-1 in Cups - but it's a lot harder to steer a conversation to "we have two Cups to your one in the last 44 years!" with any kind of verve. Actually the Shabs are 2-2 in the finals since ‘79…. Wins in 86 and 93, loss to Calgary in 89. Stupid season under COVID doesn't count.
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Post by nitelite on Apr 4, 2024 22:43:59 GMT
Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all. It is quiet peaceful eh dez. You get the odd one though & they bring up their cups. I basically say. "Ummm can you at least stay in this century please!" That usually shuts them up for about 10 mins! However, as much as I love the Bruins. I am a hockey fan 1st & as much as I still loathe those toilet seat wearing bastards with every breath! The NHL playoffs just aren't the same when BOTH the Scabs & the B's aren't in them. It's definitely the most stressful team to face in the post season for me! Remember the movie Money Ball? The scene where Billy is turning his radio on & off? That's me whenever the B's are down against them fuckers late in the 3rd! I don't do that against other teams!
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 4, 2024 22:46:31 GMT
Ya, I forgive him too... I blame Bob mostly for letting a struggling Linus stay out there waaaay to long and going to an ice cold Sway in desperation. Hey Sway, peel that bench off your ass and come win a game fucking 7! Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb! let's not just let Sway off the hook here..the guy was down 2-0, the B's took a 3-2 lead, they had a minute remaining. He could not stop the tying goal and he surrended the winner in OT--albeit sure guys were backing up around him, but still he had just as good as chance as Bobro of making enough saves to win. Tired of this weird fascination about how "bad" Ullmark was--he was hurt and that's on the coaches, but Sway still could have come through..and he didn't. I kind of let Linus off the hook because the defense was puke in your shorts atrocious. I definitely let Sway off the hook because he was colder than an Eskimo nuns hooha.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 4, 2024 23:56:36 GMT
Actually the Shabs are 2-2 in the finals since ‘79…. Wins in 86 and 93, loss to Calgary in 89. Stupid season under COVID doesn't count. So the B’S haven’t won a series since losing to the Blues?
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Post by mdsizzle on Apr 5, 2024 0:00:07 GMT
Actually the Shabs are 2-2 in the finals since ‘79…. Wins in 86 and 93, loss to Calgary in 89. Stupid season under COVID doesn't count. OC will dissagree with you there, lol.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Apr 5, 2024 2:29:29 GMT
I hate to say it, but the 1971 Bruins had the biggest collapse in Bruins playoff history before 2023, precipitated by an unnecessary rotation of Johnston in for Cheevers vs the Canadiens.Habs' rookie goalie Ken Dryden, that fuckin' long necked buzzard was THE reason that powerhouse mob were upset in seven games. He absolutely stoned Orr, Espo and company.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Apr 5, 2024 3:08:47 GMT
Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all. Great post, dez. I think the thoughts in this thread shows the difference between us B's fans and say, those of the Leaves. I've always quietly thought our prevailing attitude has generally been "Let's wait and see" no matter how strong the club was because of letdowns from the past. Bruins' playoff history is littered with them, some massive and they've been called upsets because going in, Boston would sometimes have the superior club statistically. I've never got the vibe that we as a collective have thought any Cup was in the bag. Loaf fans do. (I can only lean on them because I'm familiar with their fanbase's yearly jimma jammer second only to our own in our forum and those in some other online sources. We have expectations for the club but I think they're tempered in that we don't look at the Bruins like their gods. Here in the GTA their fans always do. We call the Bruins as we see them, warts and all. Heading into the playoffs, I don't know how they'll do. There's a part of me that thinks they'll get it together enough to tussle their way to Round Two. Based on what? Nothing but a feeling.
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Post by The OC on Apr 5, 2024 3:12:10 GMT
Wins in 86 and 93, loss to Calgary in 89. Stupid season under COVID doesn't count. OC will dissagree with you there, lol. Still think Brad Marchand wants to kill gammy by getting rid of players isolating after a positive test? Ha!
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Post by fiberglassmask on Apr 5, 2024 4:04:58 GMT
Ummm! I think 2010 was the worst collapse in Bruins history! I'm definitely going last year. 2010 there was a decisive play that turned it around for Philly... Destroying Krejci... The turnaround was all Philly. Last year, not only do you have the win ingest regular season team in league history, but they shot themselves in the foot on and off the ice and flat out sucked, played stupid and blew it. 100% agree. 2010 was bad, but when 46 broke his wrist you knew disaster was around the corner. Last year, historic team, cant get past the first round? Choked leads, horrible play including by a goalie who shouldn’t have been playing, poor coaching… 2023 ugh.
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Post by fiberglassmask on Apr 5, 2024 4:13:26 GMT
I hate to say it, but the 1971 Bruins had the biggest collapse in Bruins playoff history before 2023, precipitated by an unnecessary rotation of Johnston in for Cheevers vs the Canadiens.Habs' rookie goalie Ken Dryden, that fuckin' long necked buzzard was THE reason that powerhouse mob were upset in seven games. He absolutely stoned Orr, Espo and company. He was unreal, Rich. His arms and legs seemed 20 feet long.
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Post by nitelite on Apr 5, 2024 11:25:31 GMT
Habs' rookie goalie Ken Dryden, that fuckin' long necked buzzard was THE reason that powerhouse mob were upset in seven games. He absolutely stoned Orr, Espo and company. He was unreal, Rich. His arms and legs seemed 20 feet long. Famous quote by Phil! "His fucking arms & legs were like an octopus!"
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 5, 2024 12:00:14 GMT
Also saying that that's 4 years in 100. Add the too many men to the mix, I guess and it's 1 crushing loss every 20 years. If you can't take that, you'd die as a Leafs fan after three months. Speaking of other teams fans, it's been quite awhile since I've had to hear a Habs fan asking how many Cups the Bruins have won. For decades many debates simply ended up there regardless of where they stood in the standings. The stat has really lost its bite now that they haven't won in over 30 years. That smug sense of entitlement seems to be slowly going away and I, for one, don't miss it at all. It really has dissipated and the realization started with Price being gone from the team. Habs fans have really have had there comeuppance. Reality has set in that there are not going to ever go on decade cup runs.
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Post by 50belowzero on Apr 5, 2024 13:11:27 GMT
If Montreal never makes the playoffs again it's fine by me, don't miss em', don't need em', don't want em', fuck em'.
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Post by nitelite on Apr 5, 2024 13:21:09 GMT
If Montreal never makes the playoffs again it's fine by me, don't miss em', don't need em', don't want em', fuck em'. Ever been to Montreal to see a play off game?! If you can't appreciate that atmosphere & just fall in love with the sport even more while your there? I don't know what to tell you! Out of the 29 NHL cities I've been to. Montreal is WITHOUT QUESTION the best outside of Boston! If I wasn't a Boston fan & just a hockey fan & not cheering for anyone in particular? Nothing beats the city of Montreal to see an NHL game! Plus the night life is Canada's Vegas imo!
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