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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 3:30:40 GMT
Interesting point. The Bruins have played well against both FLa and TB this season so I think they can give either a run for their money. But I really want them to sweep TO. It was so pathetic watching AM tonight hog the puck, shoot from everywhere, and try harder to score than to win the game. I want him to feel the pain once again of a first round loss. Side note: weird moment tonight when Tavares scored late in the game he turned his back to Matthew’s and skated away from him to celebrate. Bizarre. Nosrils had TWELVE shots on goal, jm. Bertuzzi was pretty much bragging that they were feeding Nostrils all night. I don't know, I kinda like the number 69.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Apr 18, 2024 3:38:25 GMT
This series might come down to who's got the better special teams. I'm hoping in this moment, it's Boston. The Bruins were in the Top 10 in penalty killing. Toronto had the number 7 ranked power play but scored only once against the B's in 11 chances. We know Boston's extra man advantage has been anything but that over the last while. In the final 20 games of the regular season, the Bruins scored just six times in 43 chances. They have to get that sorted for it to become any kind of a weapon. Toronto's penalty kill is the 24th best this year. (Had to get in that backhanded compliment.) Boston weren't so dry against these guys with three power play goals in their four match ups. Ullmark and Swayman are better goalies than Samsonov and Woll and I think it is on the Loaf duo to up their game for them to have a shot. These two aren't the backbone of their club the way Boston's guys are. Sometimes the stats mean shit. We've seen that. Just something to consider as a factor. I'm going to enjoy seeing the Bruins play a rugged style. It's the playoffs. Probably something like that last regular season game between the Bruins and Toronto when they combined for 91 hits. "Toronto netminders posted a .891 save percentage in four games versus Boston during the regular season. Ilya Samsonov has a 1-2-2 record with a .899 save percentage in seven games played against the B's in his career. Joseph Woll is 0-2-1 with a .865 save percentage and a 3.97 GAA in three career matchups vs. Boston. The Leafs rank 22nd in save percentage and 18th in high-danger save percentage this season." Is it Murray time up from the Marlies ? That has to be frightening for Leaf fans. I need some convincing that above info won't continue. He was on a conditioning assignment with them after being cleared to play, San. Murray had a bunch of injuries: bilateral hip surgery in October preceded by ankle and head injuries. He helped the Marlies win one last Saturday, his first game in over a year. He'd likely be the fourth option behind Samsonov, Joseph Woll and Martin Jones. Seems doubtful he'd be activated for the playoffs.
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Post by RichHillOntario on Apr 18, 2024 3:43:06 GMT
Nosrils had TWELVE shots on goal, jm. Bertuzzi was pretty much bragging that they were feeding Nostrils all night. I don't know, I kinda like the number 69. Same here. All week up around here it's been like his 70 would be the new 92 by Gretzky or the 76 from Espo or Mogilny.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 10:40:52 GMT
"Toronto netminders posted a .891 save percentage in four games versus Boston during the regular season. Ilya Samsonov has a 1-2-2 record with a .899 save percentage in seven games played against the B's in his career. Joseph Woll is 0-2-1 with a .865 save percentage and a 3.97 GAA in three career matchups vs. Boston. The Leafs rank 22nd in save percentage and 18th in high-danger save percentage this season." Is it Murray time up from the Marlies ? That has to be frightening for Leaf fans. I need some convincing that above info won't continue. He was on a conditioning assignment with them after being cleared to play, San. Murray had a bunch of injuries: bilateral hip surgery in October preceded by ankle and head injuries. He helped the Marlies win one last Saturday, his first game in over a year. He'd likely be the fourth option behind Samsonov, Joseph Woll and Martin Jones. Seems doubtful he'd be activated for the playoffs. Pretty much the consensus on NHL radio, and Boucher on TNT, was that it would Samsonov starting. Fine by me. Heh man I don't envy you Bs fans that live in or around Ontario. With all the Loaves ball picking. Has to be nauseating.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 18, 2024 11:57:59 GMT
You want to know why I'm kind of warming to the TO matchup? Anthony Duclair. I can see him being a gamechanger for the Bolts. Consider that Stamkos has more goals that #Buston since they acquired Duclair. Combined, point and Stammer have 29 goals ainve they acquired Duclair. Duclair has 13 in 17 points since the deadline. Duclair is a first round draft talent with 7th round mental consistency, but he snaps to when he has to prove something. He can be key in them winning a series. And he gets to stick it to his old team. Ideally, Boston v TBags in round two, he blows that mojo and is the sleepy liability that 6 teams have given up on. So Suitcase Duclair is the reason you prefer the Laffs matchup instead? Considering the stats guy you are, I’m surprised you needed to warm up to prefer playing the Laffs….
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Post by nitelite on Apr 18, 2024 13:11:00 GMT
Tarana bitch slapped the Bs this season ? Physically I thought they did yes. They went after March and pasta. I agree! Boston allowed the Leafs to run roughshod on Pasta & Marchy in at least 2 of the games.
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Post by fifthline on Apr 18, 2024 13:18:05 GMT
Physically I thought they did yes. They went after March and pasta. I agree! Boston allowed the Leafs to run roughshod on Pasta & Marchy in at least 2 of the games. Good, those two in particular need to pass the puck up ice instead of rushing the puck every time it’s on their stick. In the O zone Heinen has been doing a lot of work on the boards; it’s DeBrusk I’m worried about, if Marchie doesn’t get help with the board work he’s going to get mauled.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 13:24:18 GMT
3-season Regular Season Averages:
Marchand = 0.42 goals per game ; 1.10 points per game
Heinen = 0.18 goals per game
Zacha = 0.63 points per game
McAvoy = 0.70 points per game
3-season Playoff Averages:
Marchand = 0.64 goals per game (+0.22) ; 1.32 points per game (+0.22)
Heinen = 0.43 goals per game (+0.25)
Zacha = 0.86 points per game (+0.23)
McAvoy = 0.92 points per game (+0.22)
Throw Geekie, DeBrusk and Lindholm upping there offensive games. Bs have a great series.
PS. Need a damn update on LucaBrazuls. Like to see him back in the lineup soon. Especially on the PP.
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Post by nitelite on Apr 18, 2024 13:25:05 GMT
see, the difference between you and me? you're mean. I love you, through thick and thin, and all you do is lash out at me, when I point out how fuckin simple you are. This is a contact sport sweet pea. You're supposed to engage, not act like a spoiled ballerina. I'll love you even more if you play fair. Lets start again, my darling sweet Jethro. Please explain what was so special about our Bruins being tied with Florida, twice in last years playoff. Please explain why the regular season means absolutely nothing, but 3 on 3 apparently is. If your logic on these 2 items, you brought up, btw, not me..also reveals certain things about my character...I'll buy you an ice cream. okay, only if you buy me a mocha fudge with no nuts...3 on 3 in the regular season is a gimmick...it is not NHL hockey. The regular season means absolutely nothing because points are awarded to teams--team points--for gimmicks that are not NHL hockey. It has turned regulation 60-minute ties into a joke because back when it was regarded that 2 teams played to a regulation tie--guess what that means both teams gave it their all over 60 minutes...so both get a point--it's what I call being fair...Call me Ishmael, but I actually liked regulation NHL ties--why? Because in this sport overtime is taxing to the point where you can't keep playing 5-minute overtimes like basketball, and it's far more difficult to score a goal 5-on-5 in overtime than it is to get enough baskets to win a NBA game--for example. Of all the major sports, only the NHL changes its overall rules for play to decide a game. NBA you don't play 3 on 3, baseball you might put a guy on second base or the international rule--but you don't change the 9 on the field and the pitcher faces the hitter...in NFL, you don't play 7 on 7...only the NHL has turned team points into a gimmick. So in conclusion, 3 on 3 makes the regular season a joke. Some teams miss the playoffs and make the playoffs due to a gimmick. Right or wrong. Finally, the NHL playoffs and 5 on 5 overtime is the right way to decide games. And you have the 4 OT games and some of them are grueling, exciting, whatever. But trying to do that in the regular season would and is impossible. Trying to please the fans or the media by having gimmicks is how the NHL solved their "tie' issue. Well Danny if you don't make changes to "please" the fans what's the point of being in the sports business? The NHL made the change to help increase the parity & seeing how you're waiting right up to game 82 to solidify positions & who gets in & who doesn't the extra point that the "weaker" teams get helps create that. Which I think is awesome for the league!
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Post by 50belowzero on Apr 18, 2024 14:00:34 GMT
Physically I thought they did yes. They went after March and pasta. I agree! Boston allowed the Leafs to run roughshod on Pasta & Marchy in at least 2 of the games. It didn't seem to help much, TO still lost every game. If they're preoccupied with roughing up Marchy and Pasta then that will leave other guys open. I don't find TO so rough and tough and the B's can do some roughing up of their own.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:02:18 GMT
okay, only if you buy me a mocha fudge with no nuts...3 on 3 in the regular season is a gimmick...it is not NHL hockey. The regular season means absolutely nothing because points are awarded to teams--team points--for gimmicks that are not NHL hockey. It has turned regulation 60-minute ties into a joke because back when it was regarded that 2 teams played to a regulation tie--guess what that means both teams gave it their all over 60 minutes...so both get a point--it's what I call being fair...Call me Ishmael, but I actually liked regulation NHL ties--why? Because in this sport overtime is taxing to the point where you can't keep playing 5-minute overtimes like basketball, and it's far more difficult to score a goal 5-on-5 in overtime than it is to get enough baskets to win a NBA game--for example. Of all the major sports, only the NHL changes its overall rules for play to decide a game. NBA you don't play 3 on 3, baseball you might put a guy on second base or the international rule--but you don't change the 9 on the field and the pitcher faces the hitter...in NFL, you don't play 7 on 7...only the NHL has turned team points into a gimmick. So in conclusion, 3 on 3 makes the regular season a joke. Some teams miss the playoffs and make the playoffs due to a gimmick. Right or wrong. Finally, the NHL playoffs and 5 on 5 overtime is the right way to decide games. And you have the 4 OT games and some of them are grueling, exciting, whatever. But trying to do that in the regular season would and is impossible. Trying to please the fans or the media by having gimmicks is how the NHL solved their "tie' issue. Well Danny if you don't make changes to "please" the fans what's the point of being in the sports business? The NHL made the change to help increase the parity & seeing how you're waiting right up to game 82 to solidify positions & who gets in & who doesn't the extra point that the "weaker" teams get helps create that. Which I think is awesome for the league! NHL just had to change the way the game is played to make up these overtime rules. I just still feel that it sacrificed the rules. The other sports have not. Also the playoff format is awful as is the idea of divisions...make it one conference, make it 1 v. 8...hell 1 v. 16 and to hell with West/East. There really is no advantage to having high points. The only way to do that is go 1 v. 16, 2 v. 15, etc..then finishing high gives you a carrot to go after and you are rewarded for that high regular season point total.
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Post by badhabitude on Apr 18, 2024 14:10:56 GMT
I found the playoff schedule. Game 1 at Boston: Saturday, April 20 at 8 p.m. ET Game 2 at Boston: TBA Game 3 at Toronto: TBA Game 4 at Toronto: TBA Game 5* at Boston: TBA Game 6* at Toronto: TBA Game 7* at Boston: TBA Oh, I guess I didn't find the schedule, just the time of game 1. WTF? how hard can it be?
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 18, 2024 14:18:25 GMT
okay, only if you buy me a mocha fudge with no nuts...3 on 3 in the regular season is a gimmick...it is not NHL hockey. The regular season means absolutely nothing because points are awarded to teams--team points--for gimmicks that are not NHL hockey. It has turned regulation 60-minute ties into a joke because back when it was regarded that 2 teams played to a regulation tie--guess what that means both teams gave it their all over 60 minutes...so both get a point--it's what I call being fair...Call me Ishmael, but I actually liked regulation NHL ties--why? Because in this sport overtime is taxing to the point where you can't keep playing 5-minute overtimes like basketball, and it's far more difficult to score a goal 5-on-5 in overtime than it is to get enough baskets to win a NBA game--for example. Of all the major sports, only the NHL changes its overall rules for play to decide a game. NBA you don't play 3 on 3, baseball you might put a guy on second base or the international rule--but you don't change the 9 on the field and the pitcher faces the hitter...in NFL, you don't play 7 on 7...only the NHL has turned team points into a gimmick. So in conclusion, 3 on 3 makes the regular season a joke. Some teams miss the playoffs and make the playoffs due to a gimmick. Right or wrong. Finally, the NHL playoffs and 5 on 5 overtime is the right way to decide games. And you have the 4 OT games and some of them are grueling, exciting, whatever. But trying to do that in the regular season would and is impossible. Trying to please the fans or the media by having gimmicks is how the NHL solved their "tie' issue. Well Danny if you don't make changes to "please" the fans what's the point of being in the sports business? The NHL made the change to help increase the parity & seeing how you're waiting right up to game 82 to solidify positions & who gets in & who doesn't the extra point that the "weaker" teams get helps create that. Which I think is awesome for the league! I’d like to see three points awarded to a winner in regulation and two in OT or SO…. And none to the loser…. Think that would make teams go all out in regulation…. But like you said, that loser point keeps teams in contention and sparks fan interest….
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Post by islamorada on Apr 18, 2024 14:21:54 GMT
Well Danny if you don't make changes to "please" the fans what's the point of being in the sports business? The NHL made the change to help increase the parity & seeing how you're waiting right up to game 82 to solidify positions & who gets in & who doesn't the extra point that the "weaker" teams get helps create that. Which I think is awesome for the league! I’d like to see three points awarded to a winner in regulation and two in OT or SO…. And none to the loser…. Think that would make teams go all out in regulation…. But like you said, that loser point keeps teams in contention and sparks fan interest…. The loser point also makes it more difficult to move up the standings. Excluding Edmonton, teams can find their game in late December only to find it difficult to oust the teams above them that have accumulated loser points, Bs included.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 18, 2024 14:28:52 GMT
Well Danny if you don't make changes to "please" the fans what's the point of being in the sports business? The NHL made the change to help increase the parity & seeing how you're waiting right up to game 82 to solidify positions & who gets in & who doesn't the extra point that the "weaker" teams get helps create that. Which I think is awesome for the league! NHL just had to change the way the game is played to make up these overtime rules. I just still feel that it sacrificed the rules. The other sports have not. Also the playoff format is awful as is the idea of divisions...make it one conference, make it 1 v. 8...hell 1 v. 16 and to hell with West/East. There really is no advantage to having high points. The only way to do that is go 1 v. 16, 2 v. 15, etc..then finishing high gives you a carrot to go after and you are rewarded for that high regular season point total. Think basketball is the only sport that hasn’t modified the rules in extra time…. Don’t follow baseball that much since the Expos left, but didn’t they come up with something even more gimmicky than 3 on 3 or shootouts? Not sure, but doesn’t a team automatically get a runner on second base to start the tenth inning?
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 14:28:57 GMT
I agree! Boston allowed the Leafs to run roughshod on Pasta & Marchy in at least 2 of the games. It didn't seem to help much, TO still lost every game. If they're preoccupied with roughing up Marchy and Pasta then that will leave other guys open. I don't find TO so rough and tough and the b's can do some roughing up of their own. Marchand and Pastrnak didn't flinch during the season series. What matters is the scoreboard. Having said that, really want Brazeau and Maroon playing throughout the series.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 14:33:34 GMT
I’d like to see three points awarded to a winner in regulation and two in OT or SO…. And none to the loser…. Think that would make teams go all out in regulation…. But like you said, that loser point keeps teams in contention and sparks fan interest…. The loser point also makes it more difficult to move up the standings. Excluding Edmonton, teams can find their game in late December only to find it difficult to oust the teams above them that have accumulated loser points, Bs included. Another side of that is we don't have that pretty cool Tuesday night. Where we had basically a pre-playoff round. But I wouldn't blink if the league took the loser point away. My biggest gripe is not having a 1-8 playoff seeding. Not one team cares about a division banner. The current seeding is dumb.
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Post by 50belowzero on Apr 18, 2024 14:33:39 GMT
It didn't seem to help much, TO still lost every game. If they're preoccupied with roughing up Marchy and Pasta then that will leave other guys open. I don't find TO so rough and tough and the b's can do some roughing up of their own. Marchand and Pastrnak didn't flinch during the season series. What matters is the scoreboard. Having said that, really want Brazeau and Maroon playing throughout the series. I haven't seen one update on Brazeau, looked like a wrist injury but it would be nice to see him back for the 1st round.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:35:11 GMT
NHL just had to change the way the game is played to make up these overtime rules. I just still feel that it sacrificed the rules. The other sports have not. Also the playoff format is awful as is the idea of divisions...make it one conference, make it 1 v. 8...hell 1 v. 16 and to hell with West/East. There really is no advantage to having high points. The only way to do that is go 1 v. 16, 2 v. 15, etc..then finishing high gives you a carrot to go after and you are rewarded for that high regular season point total. Think basketball is the only sport that hasn’t modified the rules in extra time…. Don’t follow baseball that much since the Expos left, but didn’t they come up with something even more gimmicky than 3 on 3 or shootouts? Not sure, but doesn’t a team automatically get a runner on second base to start the tenth inning? Yes, International rule, except it doesn't alter the 9 fielders on the field, you still have to pitch and hit...it's not put 5 fielders out there and hit the ball off the tee. Which sort of how it feels like when you play 3 on 3 in NHL
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:35:55 GMT
Marchand and Pastrnak didn't flinch during the season series. What matters is the scoreboard. Having said that, really want Brazeau and Maroon playing throughout the series. I haven't seen one update on Brazeau, looked like a wrist injury but it would be nice to see him back for the 1st round. Monty said to a reporter last week something to the effect of "he's week to week and don't ask me next week about him." so that's not good.
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Post by sandogbrewin on Apr 18, 2024 14:40:02 GMT
Marchand and Pastrnak didn't flinch during the season series. What matters is the scoreboard. Having said that, really want Brazeau and Maroon playing throughout the series. I haven't seen one update on Brazeau, looked like a wrist injury but it would be nice to see him back for the 1st round. Last update I read was on the 10th. Skating but no timetable.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:40:19 GMT
The loser point also makes it more difficult to move up the standings. Excluding Edmonton, teams can find their game in late December only to find it difficult to oust the teams above them that have accumulated loser points, Bs included. Another side of that is we don't have that pretty cool Tuesday night. Where we had basically a pre-playoff round. But I wouldn't blink if the league took the loser point away. My biggest gripe is not having a 1-8 playoff seeding. Not one team cares about a division banner. The current seeding is dumb. That's what I mean...the idea of divisions ended a long time ago...When there were the Adams, Patrick, Norris, Smythe Divisions there were yes regulation ties, there was some sort of sense that you won your division so it meant something. Today, it's like who cares, no one cares..everyone looks at the Wild Card and who has the Pres Trophy or is 1st in the Conference...so it's just become a who cares situation and then as san says not even having a 1-8 is just silly. I actually liked when the Bruins played the Kings in the 70s playoffs...why not? It's great theater and please don't use travel as an excuse...every team has chartered planes and there's enough money for all the teams to afford travel and it's not a let's save money thing. It doesn't matter, you even have a day off between most every game and sometimes more. Why shouldn't 2 West teams or 2 East teams play in the finals...wasn't a problem before, why should it be now. Answer, NHL won't think outside the box except for gimmicks.
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:43:26 GMT
Yes, International rule, except it doesn't alter the 9 fielders on the field, you still have to pitch and hit...it's not put 5 fielders out there and hit the ball off the tee. Which sort of how it feels like when you play 3 on 3 in NHL But if you left it at 5 on 5, games could run for another 20-60 mins just like baseball could go into extra innings…. The NHLPA would never go for that…. and that's why go back to regulation ties...a tie after 60 minutes just means 2 teams were that good or that bad to not be better or worse than the other...a point for each, move on to next game. End shootouts, end overtimes in regular season. How many times do I have to hear a player almost be forced to say "yeah, we lost the game and we suck" when the reality is they tied their opponent and earned a point.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on Apr 18, 2024 14:50:35 GMT
But if you left it at 5 on 5, games could run for another 20-60 mins just like baseball could go into extra innings…. The NHLPA would never go for that…. and that's why go back to regulation ties...a tie after 60 minutes just means 2 teams were that good or that bad to not be better or worse than the other...a point for each, move on to next game. End shootouts, end overtimes in regular season. How many times do I have to hear a player almost be forced to say "yeah, we lost the game and we suck" when the reality is they tied their opponent and earned a point. What i wanted to really say is that 5 on 5 OT would rarely settle things in just five mins…. Maybe in 10…. Don’t like shootouts but don’t mind the five-minute gimmick…. As for games ending in ties, I’m glad that’s over….
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Post by dannycater on Apr 18, 2024 14:54:15 GMT
and that's why go back to regulation ties...a tie after 60 minutes just means 2 teams were that good or that bad to not be better or worse than the other...a point for each, move on to next game. End shootouts, end overtimes in regular season. How many times do I have to hear a player almost be forced to say "yeah, we lost the game and we suck" when the reality is they tied their opponent and earned a point. What i wanted to really say is that 5 on 5 OT would rarely settle things in just five mins…. Maybe in 10…. Don’t like shootouts but don’t mind the five-minute gimmick…. As for games ending in ties, I’m glad that’s over…. 5 on 5 OT is not an option in reg. season, there is no right way to find a winner without gimmicks, and that's why ties are the way to go. I know I'm in the large minority on this one, but I feel like it's not fair to teams to be "bad" in overtime or "bad" in shootouts--B's have had different seasons where they had both of these issues--and then it's like what's the point. 5 on 5 is hockey, not 3 on 3, 4 on 4--it's just dumb.
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