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Post by Fletcher on May 2, 2023 13:56:41 GMT
I say trade Ullmark. He's not going to be as good as last year. Swayman is ready for the starting job. And that's $5 million. Maybe even try to trade him at the draft, if you can find a suitor, to move up the board for a decent pick.
Grizz needs to be traded to the highest bidder. Again, since you're trying to carve out cap space, you might not even want players. Draft picks and prospects are okay. There has to be a market for a mobile defensemen with 26 points and +46.
You probably keep Forbort, as that isn't a bad deal for another year at $3 million, and he has a NTC (Chiarelli!?!).
Other guys can go for the right price. I'd trade Debrusk for a good return. Left wing is still an area of strength.
You could look at creative ways to try to coerce Bertuzzi or Orlov into cap friendly deals, but that seems really unlikely.
The free agent market for centers looks awful. Maybe you try to bring Bergeron back, but as a 3rd line center, faceoff/defensive specialist. Guys like Beecher and Harrison get some legit auditions for depth center.
Lysell gets a shot at 2nd line RW, which may not be pretty at first, but hopefully turns into something good.
I want Lohrei in Providence for the year, with a couple spot callups for injuries or whatever. Let's not rush that.
It's the rolling rebuild...how far away is Matthew Poitras...?
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 2, 2023 14:22:34 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi.
Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 2, 2023 18:29:08 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi. Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer. Or at the very least tell Bergy he'll wait but if he comes back it will be at $1 mil and no bonuses.
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Post by shuper on May 2, 2023 19:10:26 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi. Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer. Or at the very least tell Bergy he'll wait but if he comes back it will be at $1 mil and no bonuses. I don’t think bergie is done. 78 gm season. Elite play. I think he hated how it ended and wants one more dance. He will likely play for Canada one last time. He wasn’t riddled with injury. Bring him back on the cheap. Offer him a player development job at seasons end. I think they can do this right next year. Get Bert and Orlov locked up. Bring in coke machine gudas. Bring in Lucic and trade any soft player. Coyle Hall Debrusk Frederic Linus all available.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 2, 2023 19:35:53 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi. Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer. Or at the very least tell Bergy he'll wait but if he comes back it will be at $1 mil and no bonuses. And tell Bergy you are not taking all summer.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 2, 2023 20:24:37 GMT
Said it will be Boston or bust. Not going back Czechia.
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Post by shuper on May 2, 2023 20:33:37 GMT
Said it will be Boston or bust. Not going back Czechia. One more tour of duty with Lucic policing the 4th line. I don’t want their careers ending that way. No guarantees it ends any different. But I truly believe all the top guys were hurt. One more year!!!!
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Post by moognoates on May 2, 2023 20:49:21 GMT
Part of the issue is Donny needs to make trades to free up space to sign UFAs including Orlov and Bert or to aquire draft picks. But I'm concerned there aren't trade partners until they know what they can get in the draft and the start of free agency.
Hope he can pull off some smart deals but I really think next year is a transition year we are going to have to suffer through. If we suck then we need to really suck (bottom 10) so we get our 1st round pick back. I don't think it gets that bad though.
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Post by moognoates on May 2, 2023 20:55:09 GMT
While I am ready to move on, I could be talked into DK, Bergy and Looch coming back at a total of $3 mil with no bonus money. Almost a make things right with Donnie for giving them such a deep team.
Trade Hall, Grz, Reilly and maybe a goalie and bring back Bert.
If we had our first round pick next year I'd be much more willing to take a step back this year.
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Post by shuper on May 2, 2023 21:13:03 GMT
While I am ready to move on, I could be talked into DK, Bergy and Looch coming back at a total of $3 mil with no bonus money. Almost a make things right with Donnie for giving them such a deep team. Trade Hall, Grz, Reilly and maybe a goalie and bring back Bert. If we had our first round pick next year I'd be much more willing to take a step back this year. Get on board. Bring ‘em all back. Money means nothing to us. Just find a way to make it work with room to bring in Gudas or Schenn. Can you imagine Lucic in the starting lineup next year. It would help ease this years pain. No more mr nice guy when they come on. Yeah yeah.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 2, 2023 22:16:58 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston.
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Post by shuper on May 2, 2023 23:52:37 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston. Bring ‘em all in. Orlov believed to want to go back to the Caps. Caps can’t afford though.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 3, 2023 0:26:14 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston. Bring ‘em all in. Orlov believed to want to go back to the Caps. Caps can’t afford though. I don't think the Caps are going to be competitive for awhile so don't know why he would go back there if they won't pay him.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 3, 2023 0:28:05 GMT
Getting tired of these premature threads each offseason. I was actually excited about how the roster was going to be configured this off-season with the cap restrictions but that was assuming we were coming off a cup win. Much less fun now as underachievers knowing this team isn't getting better. Bergeron- lean towards moving on but if he wants to come back then needs to be cheap with minimal bonus money (next offseason we need to have cap space available) Krejci - love you, time to retire. Hall - trade for a second or third. Keep Coyle and Zacha Marchand - if someone is willing to give a first or second or make a hockey trade I am listening. Sign Bertuzzi - i want him Zacha and Pasta as a top 2 line for the future. Bring back Fliggy for vet minimum Debrusk would have to bring back a high return for me to trade him. I prefer him to be part of the core. Lauko should be a regular next season. Let Orlov and Cliffy walk. Buyout Reilly and let Zboril play. Trade Gryz if someone will give you a second for him. I am willing to trade a goalie for a first or a young high end forward. Marchy isn’t going anywhere just yet….
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Post by shuper on May 3, 2023 0:31:14 GMT
Bring ‘em all in. Orlov believed to want to go back to the Caps. Caps can’t afford though. I don't think the Caps are going to be competitive for awhile so don't know why he would go back there if they won't pay him. I think they will have a big offseason. They were killed by injuries but look slow and old. They are trying to retool. Mantha and Kizzy are toast. Orlov is close with Ovi. I don’t see it happening. Their def is set. I hope they get first pick overall.
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Post by The OC on May 3, 2023 0:35:25 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston. I love Lucic but the problem is hasn't been very good for a while. I also don't know if he'd move across the continent with his family for the league minimum.
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Post by The OC on May 3, 2023 0:37:26 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston. Krejci said the same thing. I think there is a reasonable chance both are back on similar deals.
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Post by The OC on May 3, 2023 0:38:16 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi. Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer. Or at the very least tell Bergy he'll wait but if he comes back it will be at $1 mil and no bonuses. That's ridiculous and insulting to the Selke winner. Probably 1 mil base, but EZ bonuses for more millions.
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Post by The OC on May 3, 2023 0:38:50 GMT
Said it will be Boston or bust. Not going back Czechia. I think the WAG and kids like USA.
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Post by shuper on May 3, 2023 0:39:00 GMT
Bergeron said he will decide by July 1st if he comes back. I would say there is about a 100% chance Lucic does not sign with Boston. I love Lucic but the problem is hasn't been very good for a while. I also don't know if he'd move across the continent with his family for the league minimum. I think he’d move east He’s been a very good flame the last two. If Reaves is used then Lucic can be. I want a bully
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 3, 2023 0:39:48 GMT
Said it will be Boston or bust. Not going back Czechia. Sounds to me like a guy who’s leaning towards retiring….
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Post by brewwins on May 3, 2023 0:46:39 GMT
While I am ready to move on, I could be talked into DK, Bergy and Looch coming back at a total of $3 mil with no bonus money. Almost a make things right with Donnie for giving them such a deep team. Trade Hall, Grz, Reilly and maybe a goalie and bring back Bert. If we had our first round pick next year I'd be much more willing to take a step back this year. Get on board. Bring ‘em all back. Money means nothing to us. Just find a way to make it work with room to bring in Gudas or Schenn. Can you imagine Lucic in the starting lineup next year. It would help ease this years pain. No more mr nice guy when they come on. Yeah yeah. Cmon Shupe you said the same thing last year. Looch isn't coming back.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 3, 2023 0:46:52 GMT
Or at the very least tell Bergy he'll wait but if he comes back it will be at $1 mil and no bonuses. That's ridiculous and insulting to the Selke winner. Probably 1 mil base, but EZ bonuses for more millions. It may be ridiculous but the B's need cap space. If Bergy wants to come back it would be nice to have the most space available to give him his best chance at a Cup. I realize there could be trades to open up some space but there are no guarantees on who would go or if Sweeney trades anyone and for what.
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Post by bruins6 on May 3, 2023 0:48:41 GMT
Did some armchair GMing on CapFriendly last night. Trading Ullmark, Grzelcyk and Forbort might enough to afford Orlov and Bertuzzi. Edit: also Sweeney should go about business as if Bergeron and Krejci are retiring. Cannot conduct business waiting around like last summer. I would as I metioned yesterday trade Hall thus keep Ulmark... dont see the Bruins trading Linus.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 3, 2023 0:51:45 GMT
I don't think the Caps are going to be competitive for awhile so don't know why he would go back there if they won't pay him. I think they will have a big offseason. They were killed by injuries but look slow and old. They are trying to retool. Mantha and Kizzy are toast. Orlov is close with Ovi. I don’t see it happening. Their def is set. I hope they get first pick overall. Old is right , Backstrom 35 yrs and injured, Carlson 33 yrs and injured, Oshie 36 yrs and injured, Ovi 37 yrs and missed the end of the season, rest of the forward group mediocre. Their defence looks horrible and goaltending is so so. It's going to be a long season in Washington, fans can look forward to Ovi's all time gl chase.
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