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Post by caperbruins on May 4, 2023 12:15:40 GMT
I don't want Lindholm back. I praised him all year long , " the guy is better than Hedman" . Boy was I wrong .
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 4, 2023 13:23:32 GMT
I don't want Lindholm back. I praised him all year long , " the guy is better than Hedman" . Boy was I wrong . Inasmuch as all the d-corps sucked in the series, Hampus and Carlo were the only ones who registered a positive +/-…. Chuckie and Orlov were both a -3…. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water, good d-men like Hampus are hard to find….
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 4, 2023 14:09:05 GMT
I don't want Lindholm back. I praised him all year long , " the guy is better than Hedman" . Boy was I wrong . Few things on Lindholm. It was his 1st time in a pressure cooker. With the "flat cap" where it is at teams can't take his cap hit. And when Lindholm is on he is phenomenal.
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Post by umainebruinsfan on May 4, 2023 15:35:09 GMT
I am officially in the trade Ullmark camp, and it's not because he had a couple of bad games. I truly believe Swayman is going to be a stud. He has had a couple of very good years already, and he hasn't had that "young goalie" slump that some guys have (like Carter Hart or Demko from Vancouver). He is confident, has some swagger, and that is what goalies need (along with the talent). I just don't think 2 goalies for a total of $8 million or more is a luxury we can afford. If Ullmark allows us to replace Bergeron or Krejci as a 1-2 C with Zacha being the other, or if Ullmark just allows us to get a good draft pick plus have some cap space to resign Bertuzzi, then those are both better options for the depth of this roster than having 2 #1 goalies.
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Post by fifthline on May 4, 2023 15:53:53 GMT
The primary strategy I think is to trade sssets under contract for draft picks and sign the FA keepers with the freed up money. Recoups draft capital and can help the lineup. Hypotheticals: Hall for a first, sign Bertuzzi. Forbort for a third, Reilly third (both seconds if possible), sign Orliv.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 4, 2023 17:03:48 GMT
The primary strategy I think is to trade sssets under contract for draft picks and sign the FA keepers with the freed up money. Recoups draft capital and can help the lineup. Hypotheticals: Hall for a first, sign Bertuzzi. Forbort for a third, Reilly third (both seconds if possible), sign Orliv. My strategy as well. Do what you can to keep Bertuzzi and Orlov.
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Post by badhabitude on May 4, 2023 17:26:06 GMT
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Post by moognoates on May 4, 2023 18:04:37 GMT
That's the thing, trading Ullmark gives you a two for one. A first or a young prospect AND cap space for Bert or Orlov.
I don't think Hall gets you much. Maybe a 3rd but guessing not many teams willing to take that contract. But I'll take the cap savings and the removal of the frustration of him.
I'm keeping Gryz if Orlov leaves because they are still lacking that pure puck mover. For whatever reason Macavoy doesn't impact the game in that way.
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Post by kelvana33 on May 4, 2023 20:04:45 GMT
The primary strategy I think is to trade sssets under contract for draft picks and sign the FA keepers with the freed up money. Recoups draft capital and can help the lineup. Hypotheticals: Hall for a first, sign Bertuzzi. Forbort for a third, Reilly third (both seconds if possible), sign Orliv. My strategy as well. Do what you can to keep Bertuzzi and Orlov. On the radio yesterday they were talking as if it's common knowledge Orlov is not signing here and is going back to the Caps. I thought I missed something.
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Post by kelvana33 on May 4, 2023 20:06:07 GMT
Oh, and Bertuzzi stated the nobody from the B's has talked to him about the future. I can understand that though, they have time.
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Post by Fletcher on May 4, 2023 20:33:56 GMT
I am increasingly getting into the mindset that nobody is untouchable, and see what the trade values are.
A great return on a player we all like is better than a mediocre deal for player we're all ready to ship away.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 4, 2023 22:38:57 GMT
That's the thing, trading Ullmark gives you a two for one. A first or a young prospect AND cap space for Bert or Orlov. I don't think Hall gets you much. Maybe a 3rd but guessing not many teams willing to take that contract. But I'll take the cap savings and the removal of the frustration of him. I'm keeping Gryz if Orlov leaves because they are still lacking that pure puck mover. For whatever reason Macavoy doesn't impact the game in that way. Not that I'm against Hall being traded. But for me the likely hood of both Krejci and Bergeron returning are really low. Bruins played well without them. Keeping Hall with those two gone makes the top 9 forward group good.You could keep Hall on the 3rd line. How much of a return can you get for Hall versus what you cam get for Ullmark ? Hall, Bertuzzi, Zacha, Pasta, Marchand DeBrusk and Hall as part of your forward group is damn good.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 4, 2023 22:46:14 GMT
One thing i'm curious about is how durable Lysell will be at the NHL level, he's missed a few games in Providence.
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Post by thanx4memORRies on May 4, 2023 22:52:25 GMT
Sounds to me like a guy who’s leaning towards retiring…. You're putting your own feelings on that. The words don't lean on playing or retiring. "I'll decide in a few weeks" is simply that. But I’m the hockey player whisperer….
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 5, 2023 0:45:39 GMT
One thing i'm curious about is how durable Lysell will be at the NHL level, he's missed a few games in Providence. Lysell just got drilled the other night. Hartford could give the Charleston Chiefs a run for their money.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 5, 2023 0:47:02 GMT
One thing i'm curious about is how durable Lysell will be at the NHL level, he's missed a few games in Providence. Lysell just got drilled the other night. Hartford could give the Charleston Chiefs a run for their money. 2-1 in the series correct?
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 5, 2023 0:49:58 GMT
Lysell just got drilled the other night. Hartford could give the Charleston Chiefs a run for their money. 2-1 in the series correct? Yup next game is in Haatferd.
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Post by fifthline on May 5, 2023 0:54:03 GMT
That's the thing, trading Ullmark gives you a two for one. A first or a young prospect AND cap space for Bert or Orlov. I don't think Hall gets you much. Maybe a 3rd but guessing not many teams willing to take that contract. But I'll take the cap savings and the removal of the frustration of him. I'm keeping Gryz if Orlov leaves because they are still lacking that pure puck mover. For whatever reason Macavoy doesn't impact the game in that way. Not that I'm against Hall being traded. But for me the likely hood of both Krejci and Bergeron returning are really low. Bruins played well without them. Keeping Hall with those two gone makes the top 9 forward group good.You could keep Hall on the 3rd line. How much of a return can you get for Hall versus what you cam get for Ullmark ? Hall, Bertuzzi, Zacha, Pasta, Marchand DeBrusk and Hall as part of your forward group is damn good. Hall was all world for a few games there when Krejci and Bergie were down. I’d prefer to keep too.
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Post by umainebruinsfan on May 5, 2023 12:43:37 GMT
Ullmark for Elias Lindholm. That's my off-season fantasy. Lindholm makes less than $5 million for 1 year then will need an extension but we will have more cap space a year from now. Calgary is worried about losing him in free agency. Their goaltending was brutal this year. A future of Lindholm-Zacha isn't a bad sequel to Bergeron-Krejci as the top 2 centers.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 5, 2023 20:54:09 GMT
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Post by dannycater on May 5, 2023 21:14:21 GMT
Jesus H. Jiminy, everyone jump off the ledge...trade him! fire him! dump him! waive him! It's one fucking series that went South...none of these guys are shitty, collectively they were lazy and didn't push back. That doesn't mean 95 percent of the roster isn't good anymore. Take a chill pill, gentlemen.
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Post by mdsizzle on May 5, 2023 23:27:58 GMT
Time to let Danny walk too.
That'll clear space for Bert.
Sorry buddy.. Bathwater, baby, Danny...
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Post by shuper on May 6, 2023 0:54:31 GMT
Ullmark for Elias Lindholm. That's my off-season fantasy. Lindholm makes less than $5 million for 1 year then will need an extension but we will have more cap space a year from now. Calgary is worried about losing him in free agency. Their goaltending was brutal this year. A future of Lindholm-Zacha isn't a bad sequel to Bergeron-Krejci as the top 2 centers. You realize Calgary has a stud youngster coming up in net.
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Post by sandogbrewin on May 6, 2023 12:45:41 GMT
Ullmark for Elias Lindholm. That's my off-season fantasy. Lindholm makes less than $5 million for 1 year then will need an extension but we will have more cap space a year from now. Calgary is worried about losing him in free agency. Their goaltending was brutal this year. A future of Lindholm-Zacha isn't a bad sequel to Bergeron-Krejci as the top 2 centers. You realize Calgary has a stud youngster coming up in net. All the more reason to have a $5M AAV Vezina winning goalie for insurance. Many saw Ullmark as insurance for the development of Swayman.
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Post by 50belowzero on May 6, 2023 12:53:17 GMT
You realize Calgary has a stud youngster coming up in net. All the more reason to have a $5M AAV Vezina winning goalie for insurance. Many saw Ullmark as insurance for the development of Swayman. I know one thing for sure Markstrom & Vladar ain't cutting it, they're horrible.
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