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Post by Fletcher on Sept 18, 2015 16:52:13 GMT
"You need about a six month program just to loosen you up enough that yoga would help you more than it would hurt...." - Physiotherapist's comment to me last week. When I say my muscles are tight, I mean like the way Glen Wesley gripped the stick in OT of the Cup Finals. Ha, I've been to a couple yoga classes and I would have to describe them as generally humiliating. I can't really even get into the positions, and when I try, I'm shaking and gyrating while profusely sweating. All the women around me look gracefully relaxed while they glisten slightly. I feel like a caveman in a ballet recital. It's horrible. I'm done with that. Don't know how I even got talked into it.
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Post by Fletcher on Sept 18, 2015 16:54:44 GMT
Simple, eat a big breakfast like left overs from dinner. Then work out as much as possible especially cardio. Stay away from bread, sugar, and salt. Eat protein but navigate to fish if possible. Enjoy sex three or four times a week, different women is not for this old guy. Keep beer* consumption to 48oz a day. Lastly don't go to the doctors, the insurance business has made their diagnosis dangerous. Persoanally, I have to be Zen to deal with Bookboy's long thoughts..... oh by the way I like Zen sayings cause if I didn't I would get pissed off all the time....knitting circle!!!! *moderation of alcohol except for Auchentoshan whiskey. ^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'?
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 18, 2015 17:30:06 GMT
"You need about a six month program just to loosen you up enough that yoga would help you more than it would hurt...." - Physiotherapist's comment to me last week. When I say my muscles are tight, I mean like the way Glen Wesley gripped the stick in OT of the Cup Finals. Ha, I've been to a couple yoga classes and I would have to describe them as generally humiliating. I can't really even get into the positions, and when I try, I'm shaking and gyrating while profusely sweating. All the women around me look gracefully relaxed while they glisten slightly. I feel like a caveman in a ballet recital. It's horrible. I'm done with that. Don't know how I even got talked into it. I went a few times to Iyengar yoga, which is different than all of the others because it's more about getting you into the position and holding it - and they give you props so you can get into the position to whatever degree you can without all the profuse sweating and shaking that really doesn't do what the exercise is supposed to do for you. Much different experience. Still more frustrating than golf, though. I do do two or three things I learned there still and they help keep my creeping rigor mortis from getting worse. One is stretching your hamstrings and the whole back of your legs by lying on your back as though you're sitting on the wall with your legs straight up the wall, feet flexed and knees pressed down to the wall as much as you can without feeling like you're doing something wrong. I couldn't even get my butt to the wall with my heels on wall when I started. You can lie there in that position and do deep breathing until the muscles let go. Second one is just getting completely aligned with your feet under your knees under hips, under you shoulders etc. and then you basically flex everything to sort of "activate" all the muscles that hold your posture. Last one is lying on you back with your feet flat on the ground and moving your knees side to side. Loosens up the hips and lower back. Everything else about yoga makes me want to challenge everyone in the room to armwrestle to prove I'm not a total burnout.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 18, 2015 17:31:52 GMT
Simple, eat a big breakfast like left overs from dinner. Then work out as much as possible especially cardio. Stay away from bread, sugar, and salt. Eat protein but navigate to fish if possible. Enjoy sex three or four times a week, different women is not for this old guy. Keep beer* consumption to 48oz a day. Lastly don't go to the doctors, the insurance business has made their diagnosis dangerous. Persoanally, I have to be Zen to deal with Bookboy's long thoughts..... oh by the way I like Zen sayings cause if I didn't I would get pissed off all the time....knitting circle!!!! *moderation of alcohol except for Auchentoshan whiskey. ^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'? I notice he didn't say "...with your wife..." necessarily... I'm more of a Laguvulin guy.... Though lately, I've been working my way through the Maker's Mark more than anything else.
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Post by 50belowzero on Sept 18, 2015 18:00:09 GMT
Profusely sweating and shaking? Gyrating? You're talking about yoga? Or Hurling?
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 18, 2015 18:46:04 GMT
Simple, eat a big breakfast like left overs from dinner. Then work out as much as possible especially cardio. Stay away from bread, sugar, and salt. Eat protein but navigate to fish if possible. Enjoy sex three or four times a week, different women is not for this old guy. Keep beer* consumption to 48oz a day. Lastly don't go to the doctors, the insurance business has made their diagnosis dangerous. Persoanally, I have to be Zen to deal with Bookboy's long thoughts..... oh by the way I like Zen sayings cause if I didn't I would get pissed off all the time....knitting circle!!!! *moderation of alcohol except for Auchentoshan whiskey. ^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'? Pretty much once a day, whether I want to or not. Gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Post by bookboy007 on Sept 18, 2015 18:47:31 GMT
^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'? Pretty much once a day, whether I want to or not. Gotta do what ya gotta do. You make it sound like prison.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 18, 2015 18:50:19 GMT
Pretty much once a day, whether I want to or not. Gotta do what ya gotta do. You make it sound like prison. My wife sometimes makes it sound that way.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 18, 2015 20:11:40 GMT
"You need about a six month program just to loosen you up enough that yoga would help you more than it would hurt...." - Physiotherapist's comment to me last week. When I say my muscles are tight, I mean like the way Glen Wesley gripped the stick in OT of the Cup Finals. Ha, I've been to a couple yoga classes and I would have to describe them as generally humiliating. I can't really even get into the positions, and when I try, I'm shaking and gyrating while profusely sweating. All the women around me look gracefully relaxed while they glisten slightly. I feel like a caveman in a ballet recital. It's horrible. I'm done with that. Don't know how I even got talked into it. How much will it cost me to get you to bring in a camera? Could take a little edge off the humiliation...
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Post by Fletcher on Sept 18, 2015 20:14:10 GMT
^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'? Pretty much once a day, whether I want to or not. Gotta do what ya gotta do. Good lord. Are you two in high school...?
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Post by NAS on Sept 18, 2015 21:51:11 GMT
Want to lose weight? Eat right and work out.
Done.
This works for every human.
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Post by islamorada on Sept 18, 2015 23:52:19 GMT
Simple, eat a big breakfast like left overs from dinner. Then work out as much as possible especially cardio. Stay away from bread, sugar, and salt. Eat protein but navigate to fish if possible. Enjoy sex three or four times a week, different women is not for this old guy. Keep beer* consumption to 48oz a day. Lastly don't go to the doctors, the insurance business has made their diagnosis dangerous. Persoanally, I have to be Zen to deal with Bookboy's long thoughts..... oh by the way I like Zen sayings cause if I didn't I would get pissed off all the time....knitting circle!!!! *moderation of alcohol except for Auchentoshan whiskey. ^ ?!? Are you married...? Did you mean 'month'? No I am not married. I was last year so you are correct to ask. BTW I am so jealous of young men today who can witness the benefits of yogeurism.
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Post by jmwalters on Sept 18, 2015 23:54:45 GMT
"You need about a six month program just to loosen you up enough that yoga would help you more than it would hurt...." - Physiotherapist's comment to me last week. When I say my muscles are tight, I mean like the way Glen Wesley gripped the stick in OT of the Cup Finals. Maybe Glen should have done some sun salutations before the game?
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Post by jmwalters on Sept 18, 2015 23:56:26 GMT
Yeah, yoga pants are cool! the pants, the ratio of women to men in the studio (and mostly in shape to boot)....what's not to love?
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Post by jmwalters on Sept 18, 2015 23:57:37 GMT
"You need about a six month program just to loosen you up enough that yoga would help you more than it would hurt...." - Physiotherapist's comment to me last week. When I say my muscles are tight, I mean like the way Glen Wesley gripped the stick in OT of the Cup Finals. Ha, I've been to a couple yoga classes and I would have to describe them as generally humiliating. I can't really even get into the positions, and when I try, I'm shaking and gyrating while profusely sweating. All the women around me look gracefully relaxed while they glisten slightly. I feel like a caveman in a ballet recital. It's horrible. I'm done with that. Don't know how I even got talked into it. Depends on the class and teacher...etc. But yeah, the first few classes are a challenge no doubt. But the eventual payoff is worth it in the end
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 19, 2015 0:00:27 GMT
Want to lose weight? Eat right and work out. Done. This works for every human. Way oversimplified. The devil is in the detail. What is "eating right", the popular opinion seems to be low fat and high carb. What is "working out"? What is most effective? True, it's about calorie reduction, but how to do it and stay satiated? Will power will not do it, it can work for a while, but its like holding your breath, eventually you will give in. The trick is finding a diet that works for you and figuring out a way to stick to it. And for working out? Aerobic, anaerobic efforts? And if "eat right and work out" works for you, by all means keep doing it. The problem is that the diet and fitness industries want to make it one size fits all, but one size doesn't fit all. The proper diet and exercise regimen differs from individual to individual. While I was a serious cyclist, racing in Italy I sat down at the training table with my team mates and we all ate the same stuff and pretty much the same quantity. Some guys had to pile in extra food in just to maintain a reasonable weight, I didn't have to eat as much to maintain my weight during long stage races. That's what helped to get me to where I am today, eating like a pig and riding 350+ miles a week. The habit of getting up at 4:30 to put in 3 hours of training before work can be dropped *much* more easily than eating a ridiculous numbers of calories a day.
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Post by NAS on Sept 19, 2015 11:13:01 GMT
Want to lose weight? Eat right and work out. Done. This works for every human. Way oversimplified. The devil is in the detail. What is "eating right", the popular opinion seems to be low fat and high carb. What is "working out"? What is most effective? True, it's about calorie reduction, but how to do it and stay satiated? Will power will not do it, it can work for a while, but its like holding your breath, eventually you will give in. The trick is finding a diet that works for you and figuring out a way to stick to it. And for working out? Aerobic, anaerobic efforts? And if "eat right and work out" works for you, by all means keep doing it. The problem is that the diet and fitness industries want to make it one size fits all, but one size doesn't fit all. The proper diet and exercise regimen differs from individual to individual. While I was a serious cyclist, racing in Italy I sat down at the training table with my team mates and we all ate the same stuff and pretty much the same quantity. Some guys had to pile in extra food in just to maintain a reasonable weight, I didn't have to eat as much to maintain my weight during long stage races. That's what helped to get me to where I am today, eating like a pig and riding 350+ miles a week. The habit of getting up at 4:30 to put in 3 hours of training before work can be dropped *much* more easily than eating a ridiculous numbers of calories a day. What is eating right? Certainly not low fat/high carb. Don't eat pizza. Eat chicken. Don't eat a bag of chips. Eat dried edamame. The list goes on and on. Review caloric intake. If you're 5'8 and are taking in over 2,000 calories a day, you're not going to lose much weight doing 50 sit ups and walking a half mile a day. How do you eat that way and stay satisfied? Focus on the end result. If you want it, you get it. What seems difficult becomes the norm. As for exercise, the idea is to increase your heart rate. Burn calories. For faster results, interval training is best. Simplifying it is okay. Eat right (or at the very least, eat better) and exercise. Pass on the fried cheese. Sweat for a half hour a day. Guaranteed results.
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Post by goodnewsbears on Sept 19, 2015 11:14:33 GMT
Well, I was heavier, I've dropped about 15 lbs. I had dropped 28, but I got off the wagon. Here's what has worked for me. I just have to gain consistency doing it. No sugar at all - check salad dressings, ketchup has sugar in it, check all ingredients. No carbs - so no grains, so no bread, no potatoes, rice, corn. DON'T avoid fats, in fact, seek them out. See if you can find whole milk yogurt and enjoy your steaks, have olive oil with your salads. Here's what is going on, simple carbs (sugar) and carbs are more easily digestible than protein. IT IS all about calorie reduction, and the fats are much more satiating than the low fat food, and once you've limited your food choices enough you get tired of eating them and will eat less. Then of course, working out on top of that. Having said that, there is no one size fits all for diets. The only thing that really works is the "n+1 experiment" - what works for you. Get a scale that measures weight, hydration and fat percentage. Keep track of what you eat everyday along with your weight, fat% and h20% - every day. The fat% and hydration% are important because you can easily gain or lose several pounds of water weight easily. The food diary will prove out what works for you. And its only the diet that works for you that matters. The problem with your "no sugar, no carbs" diet is that it's a diet. People who go on a diet don't keep up with it and eventually gain all the weight back and usually end up heavier than they were before the diet. A lot of people make a lot of money on yo-yo dieters. Eat a balanced diet from all food groups. Our portions are way out wack. Only put three quarters of what you were originally planning on putting on your plate. Most of us eat until we're stuffed, not until we're not hungry anymore. Exercise. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise. Just exercise, work up a sweat.
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Post by 50belowzero on Sept 19, 2015 11:55:33 GMT
Buffet's are definitely a no go. It's not normal to sit down for a meal and go back for a refill 4 times, then go for a plate of desserts or a couple ice cream sundae's. Although walking back and forth to the Buffet table does constitute exercise.
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Post by islamorada on Sept 19, 2015 12:13:07 GMT
Well, I was heavier, I've dropped about 15 lbs. I had dropped 28, but I got off the wagon. Here's what has worked for me. I just have to gain consistency doing it. No sugar at all - check salad dressings, ketchup has sugar in it, check all ingredients. No carbs - so no grains, so no bread, no potatoes, rice, corn. DON'T avoid fats, in fact, seek them out. See if you can find whole milk yogurt and enjoy your steaks, have olive oil with your salads. Here's what is going on, simple carbs (sugar) and carbs are more easily digestible than protein. IT IS all about calorie reduction, and the fats are much more satiating than the low fat food, and once you've limited your food choices enough you get tired of eating them and will eat less. Then of course, working out on top of that. Having said that, there is no one size fits all for diets. The only thing that really works is the "n+1 experiment" - what works for you. Get a scale that measures weight, hydration and fat percentage. Keep track of what you eat everyday along with your weight, fat% and h20% - every day. The fat% and hydration% are important because you can easily gain or lose several pounds of water weight easily. The food diary will prove out what works for you. And its only the diet that works for you that matters. The problem with your "no sugar, no carbs" diet is that it's a diet. People who go on a diet don't keep up with it and eventually gain all the weight back and usually end up heavier than they were before the diet. A lot of people make a lot of money on yo-yo dieters. Eat a balanced diet from all food groups. Our portions are way out wack. Only put three quarters of what you were originally planning on putting on your plate. Most of us eat until we're stuffed, not until we're not hungry anymore. Exercise. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise. Just exercise, work up a sweat. Exactly, little sugar and base the carbs on your size and exercise routine. Stay away from processed foods at all costs, fruit and veggies are a must, and the rest is logical. You can have a couple drinks a day on the eating habits.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 19, 2015 13:03:27 GMT
No, I believe no sugar and no grains can be adapted as a lifestyle. Especially when I *know* that when I have sugar and/or grains it makes me feel like crap. I've tracked this in my excel spreadsheet when I eat sugar/grains I don't feel as well and get very tired. When I see those pizza and burger and sub ads on tv mentally I have a reaction as if they were selling crack or meth. Yah its good, that's the problem, it *too* good. I kept off sugar/grain for about 8 months and was losing but then got complacent and started back up again, now I'm committed to it. I know I don't have a full gluten allergy, but it seems like I have a slight allergy to it, enough to make me feel crappy and very tired. Just like doing drugs I've learned that eating bread and sugar especially are fun for the moment, but then it's at least a 24 hour hangover. See vinnietortorich.com/ about making no sugar no grains a lifestyle. My excel spreadsheet that I keep on a daily basis tracks: weight, hydration, body fat %, number of hours slept, everything I eat during the day, how I felt (scale of 1-10) with a comment column, number of minutes exercised, a description of the exercise, a wild guess at how many calories I consumed. Then I have 5 columns for grades (A-F), a grade for the quality of each meal, a grade for exercise - 0 mins = F, 1-10 mins D, 10-20 C, 20-30 B, 30+ is an A, and a grade A-F for water consumed, F for none, D - for one glass, C for 2 glasses etc. Of course the point is to get "straight A" days.
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Post by badhabitude on Sept 19, 2015 13:06:35 GMT
My wife is a vegan, and of course I do the no sugar no grain. I read a lot about the "no wheat" lifestyle and my wife reads a lot about being a vegan - and also juicing. There seems to be one point that the experts agree upon and that is that there are too many carbs and sugar in a typical American diet.
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Post by NAS on Sept 19, 2015 13:16:56 GMT
My wife is a vegan, and of course I do the no sugar no grain. I read a lot about the "no wheat" lifestyle and my wife reads a lot about being a vegan - and also juicing. There seems to be one point that the experts agree upon and that is that there are too many carbs and sugar in a typical American diet. None of this is working. Try something different.
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Post by NAS on Sept 19, 2015 13:20:07 GMT
Well, I was heavier, I've dropped about 15 lbs. I had dropped 28, but I got off the wagon. Here's what has worked for me. I just have to gain consistency doing it. No sugar at all - check salad dressings, ketchup has sugar in it, check all ingredients. No carbs - so no grains, so no bread, no potatoes, rice, corn. DON'T avoid fats, in fact, seek them out. See if you can find whole milk yogurt and enjoy your steaks, have olive oil with your salads. Here's what is going on, simple carbs (sugar) and carbs are more easily digestible than protein. IT IS all about calorie reduction, and the fats are much more satiating than the low fat food, and once you've limited your food choices enough you get tired of eating them and will eat less. Then of course, working out on top of that. Having said that, there is no one size fits all for diets. The only thing that really works is the "n+1 experiment" - what works for you. Get a scale that measures weight, hydration and fat percentage. Keep track of what you eat everyday along with your weight, fat% and h20% - every day. The fat% and hydration% are important because you can easily gain or lose several pounds of water weight easily. The food diary will prove out what works for you. And its only the diet that works for you that matters. The problem with your "no sugar, no carbs" diet is that it's a diet. People who go on a diet don't keep up with it and eventually gain all the weight back and usually end up heavier than they were before the diet. A lot of people make a lot of money on yo-yo dieters. Eat a balanced diet from all food groups. Our portions are way out wack. Only put three quarters of what you were originally planning on putting on your plate. Most of us eat until we're stuffed, not until we're not hungry anymore. Exercise. It doesn't matter what kind of exercise. Just exercise, work up a sweat. It's okay. No one is perfect. When things change, lifestyles and habits change. In the past six years I've been close to 195lbs and 125lbs. Some years I just don't give a fuck and eat a whole pizza followed by a pint of B&J. Other years I'm working out six days a week and can tell you every calorie I took in that day. Want change, get change. Don't want change, don't get it.
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Post by islamorada on Sept 19, 2015 13:24:57 GMT
I agree, vegan diets can be excellent if the foods are in balance. Protein though is a must if you are active. I paint houses (still left over from teaching summers). This week I was up 38 feet on ladders. Up and down constantly. Tuna fish out of the can with an apples helped the energy all day. I cooked Haddock and brown rice on Monday evening. I had rice and fish in the morning the next few days for the big breakfast. I had strength during most of the day. I have several acres of land on other days to work on. Next year I am planning to hike Mt. Monadnock 20 times during the summer in preparation for the Long Trail the following summer. I only wish I could skate fluidly or find ice up here in NH. BTW no wheat is great, after many years of eating and drinking I have to curtail wheat intake. I now have to drink Psyllium each day for fiber, old man's drink. Lastly dried fruits have lots of sugar but are excellent for digestion. They actually are better than fresh fruits and juicers.
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